Rumor: Next Xbox to be revealed on May 21, cost $500 for base or $300 for subscription model, and launch in November

Always-on internet connection echoed, as well.

April 7, 2013 / 03:55 PM EDT / (@salromano)

The next Xbox will cost $500 for the standard model or $300 for the “subscription” model, require an internet connection, and launch in “early November,” according to sources of WhatTheTech‘s Paul Thurrott. 

“Durango is going to be expensive [laughs], you know $500, $300 for the subscription, that kind of thing, but you know, Blu-ray, blah blah blah,” said Thurrott in his latest podcast. “But the thing that interests me, going back and looking at some of the stuff I got a long time ago, it actually says ‘must be internet-connected to use’ in the notes. And that’s all I have, but it does say that.”

Recent rumors have echoed the same. A Microsot developer may have even indirectly confirmed it earlier this week.

“I don’t know [if that's a bad thing] because I don’t know what it means,” he added. “You know, when you look at some of the stories that were coming out this week about, you know, I saw a headline that said something like ‘Next Xbox could be okay without an internet connection for as long as 3 minutes’ or something like that. I don’t even know what that means.

“For me, Xbox 360 is almost entirely an online experience. Most of the games I play are multiplayer, where you’re playing against other people online. Or you’re using it as an entertainment device when you’re connected to a service like Netflix or Xbox video, so that is an internet-connected device.”

The new Xbox’s reveal was scheduled for later this month, according to Thurrott, but has since been pushed to late May.

“Originally, they were going to announce this thing in April—April 24—now they’re going to announce it May 21,” he said. “We know there are events occurring this year where we’re going to learn more about Durango.

Those events include E3 and BUILD, both in June, the latter of which Microsoft will discuss the “developer story,” as the system is a “Windows 8 device” with “the same, or basically the same, developer tools and developer APIs,” according to Thurrott.

“I look at all this stuff that I’ve seen about Durango and I think, ‘it’s all positive.’ I don’t really see any bad news here at all. Like to me, everything I’ve seen about this is really positive. It’s amazing to me that, based on like no information at all, everyone is like freaking out about everything.”

Thurrott added, “I’ve actually heard from, by the way not one or two people, several people who’ve said, ‘based on what I’ve seen, Sony is going to blow them away.’ Based on what you’ve seen? You’ve seen nothing. What are you talking about? No, but you’ve seen literally nothing from Microsoft.”

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  • rockman29

    Rapid update, very good job Sal :)

  • shogunknight

    Interesting…..NOT!

  • Prodigy-X

    ”claims that Microsoft intends to ship a $500 standard console as well as an alternative subscription model for $300. As speculation has suggested, the new system will require an Internet connection to properly function”

    Microsoft Xbox is dead. Lets all take a moment of silence.

    http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8571/rip360ei7.jpg

    • shogunknight

      Lol, just “Deal with it”

    • ACMsucks

      No, too many xbaw drones, it wont die.

  • Alos88

    Interesting, the guy doesn’t exactly seems unbiased himself though imo.

  • Willgaea

    They should use this extra month to get rid of all the bad rumors that are leaking. Maybe go the exact opposite of all the rumors and everyone would be happy.

  • shogunknight

    Found this in gamespot lol
    Edit: Was actually first posted by “Sunhi” from the NeoGAF thread after the “deal with it” twitter incident (thanks Zero)
    http://i.minus.com/iZ4Xc7uzxvJUA.gif

    • Prodigy-X

      LOL!!! The Wii U part was priceless and I read all that in Banes voice.

    • Nightcore34

      In that gif it talks about sim city, i recall somewhere that adam orth said sim city is doing quite well (i can’t remember the actual phrase said so i’m paraphrasing)

    • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

      It’s from the NeoGAF thread. User name – Sunhi (Was posted the other day after the twitter fiasco, also posted in our thread.)

      http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=534951

      Just trying to give proper credit. It is legendary, no doubt. xD

      • shogunknight

        Noted. I have to say, Sunhi has awesome creativity. I cant see bane as a serious villain anymore

        • rockman29

          you can safely assume anything gaming related on something this major is from GAF ;)

      • https://www.facebook.com/miyabigaming 新阿修羅(ShinAsura)

        Sweet, I have to say that’s an amazing piece of work.

    • Bryce Blalex Douglas

      OMG!!!!!! This is the funniest GIF ever. Picturing all of this in Bane’s voice “Microsoft or SONYYYY” lol

    • Mar Mar

      This GIF is million times funnier than the over used Hitler one

      • Kurisu Makise

        Perfect GIF indeed, I giggled the whole way through.

        • Ritsujun

          Kurisutina

          • Kurisu Makise

            Kurisu not TINA lol /obligatory

  • Nightcore34

    I don’t really understand the “standard model” and the “subscription model”

    • shogunknight

      Subscription may mean buying the console at $300 and then paying an amount per month. Like how smartphones and their carriers do

      • Nightcore34

        Oh, i see, if you are correct then that makes sense to me thanks.

    • uhawww

      Standard model is the full price unit. Subscription means you pay that price, plus monthly fees. The sub model on the 360 was 2 years worth of fees. It included XBL Gold, but in the end, cost you over $150 more than if you would have paid the regular price up front.

      • shogunknight

        Whaat? i never knew

      • Nightcore34

        Ahh, i didn’t understand cause i do have an xbox but i don’t really go on it.

      • xMCXx

        What a scam.

        • DrForbidden

          Not really a scam, since the prices and charges are all upfront for you to see. Thing is, even if you bought a non-subscription model, you’d still have to pay for monthly online play. That’s the kicker there. In the end, the price difference may not be very significant given the XBL subscription charges.

          That’s why MS WANTS you to sign yourself to 2 years of subscription. That’s where they can get to rip you off. Whether or not you use up your ‘online quota’ each month, you are still obliged to pay for the full month.

      • DrForbidden

        Well, 2 years of XBL cost around USD180, if I’m not mistaken.

  • tubers

    Hmm.. From the leaks wasn’t the 720 weaker than the PS4? And it’s 500? Hope it doesn’t mean the PS3′s gonna be 599.99… rumors anyway :P

    • Kanok Timkhlai

      Because, that leaked is RUMOR.

      • tubers

        As I’ve said.

  • Bloodios

    So, based on the latest rumour, it would seem that Microsoft is only going to reveal their console after the upcoming PlayStation 4 Event has concluded.

    • shogunknight

      It seems like the console may end up rushed, its still revolving around rumors up till now and its supposed to be on sale later this year. Well, its Microsoft were talking about.

      • Elvick

        Well they rushed the release last time and it turned out great for them (not so much for consumers), they gained a lot of ground, wouldn’t surprise me if they did it again.

    • Bryce Blalex Douglas

      Yep Microsoft looks to be trying to decide whether they’re going to screw themselves over or not depending on what Sony does

  • MrRobbyM

    Microsoft why. Just why everything. I don’t wish ill luck on you or anything but why. Why. I don’t know what else to say but why.

    • rockman29

      MS is not a person, it’s a corporation, and people define it’s direction based on profit. It’s nothing to be sensitive about.

      • MrRobbyM

        Who’s being sensitive? I’m just laughing.

        • rockman29

          Fair enough, just saying it’s not a horrible thing to want a venture to fail. It’s perfectly OK to hope something doesn’t succeed, especially if its success isn’t in your best interest :)

          • MrRobbyM

            Well I did say I don’t wish them ill luck or anything like that. I actually don’t mind if they succeed or fail or whatever, I just dont think this is a great move for the consumers, weather they(the consumers) realize it or not

      • https://www.facebook.com/miyabigaming 新阿修羅(ShinAsura)

        I don’t think he’s being sensitive he’s trying to understand why they’re doing what they’re doing

        • rockman29

          im not arguing with him lol, just pointing out, dont feel bad for being against something, it’s not a bad thing

  • Tenshiken

    At this point, I don’t care if the next Xbox is $200 I’m still not getting it.

  • Jaylesse

    Well, that really narrows it down. Sony, it is.

  • Tac-Mex

    The sad thing is that there are people who will buy this -.-

    • Jerry

      lol no there aren’t

      • Ritsujun

        Americans are gonna buy it.

        • FitzpatrickPhillips

          Yep…gotta play dat CoD son!

      • Elvick

        Sadly, there are. Just as they bought a system with a 40-something percent failure rate. That requires you to pay for online play that is worse than what is free on PC. And what required many additional purchases to match the feature set of the PS3, that would total well over the PS3′s price. Hell, even the Wii had some features the 360 didn’t (wifi).

        If MS had made the PS3 and Sony made the 360, the PS3 would have sold. The ’360′ by Sony wouldn’t have stayed in the market. MS has the power to sell a crap product. (don’t get me wrong, there’s some good games on the system, but there is no denying the launch 360 was a shitty product anything that fails so often is) There is no way Sony would get away with that kind of bullshit. People didn’t even see value in the price of the PS3, even though it was there. Yet they saw value in something that failed almost as often as it didn’t (in America).

  • checkeredknight

    > Always online DRM
    > Cannot play second-hand titles
    > Windows 8 device
    > Subscription models

    Ha ha, yes. Very positive. Whoopee!

    Of course people are going to compare the systems from rumours. If we don’t have any solid information, what do you expect? On top of that, a lot of rumours about the PS4 came true! I think Thurrott is talking out of his backside.

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

    “Thurrott added, “I’ve actually heard from, by the way not one or two
    people, several people who’ve said, ‘based on what I’ve seen, Sony is
    going to blow them away.’ Based on what you’ve seen? You’ve seen
    nothing. What are you talking about? No, but you’ve seen literally
    nothing from Microsoft.””

    Alright, fine. If Microsoft didn’t want all this stuff floating around, then maybe they should send in PR to do some damage control. Until then, I’m not liking what I see, rumor or not. As I said before… It would be one thing if we had only seen the rumor once.

    We could all laugh it off, then wait for something more concrete, but… When you start seeing the rumor pop up more and more, that’s not helping the company. Especially if the rumor is bad news for most. So, deal with the badmouthing until May 21st or take care of it now, Microsoft. We know what Sony has to offer us.

    Now the ball is in your court.

  • stealth20k

    gahhahahha

  • DesmaX

    lol, US$500

    • Ritsujun

      KinectorKids=) v2.0

  • Tetsu

    $500? LOL good luck with that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ogresamanosuke Cameron Hamilton

    We’ve seen the important part. You’re turning the console into a DRM box by being always online. You can think you’re usually online all you want, but doesn’t mean it’s REQUIRED. Especially bad given the precedence set by having to pay for XBL.

  • Hatsuaki

    It’s always been like this. People judging things based on mere rumours anyone could’ve made up from one minute to the other, and it feels like a pitiful attempt at defending the next Xbox that he’s saying stuff like that. They’re so scared to admit that they’ve pretty much lost against the PS4 that they’re backing themselves up with things that no one who is going to buy console X or console Y cares. We may have been judging the new Xbox from nothing, but they’re not showing anything to us either, are they?

  • ZodiacKiller

    He’s right, we haven’t seen anything from Microsoft…anything worth buying that is

  • Raiyu

    If the Xbox is suppose to be $500, I hate to see how much the PS4 will cost considering its apparently more powerful….

    Although the part about Sony blowing them away gives me a bit of hope.

    Edit: Actually, forget my first comment about the price. I forgot the next xbox is rumored to have a new Kinect packed in which may have increased the price.

  • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

    I’m not surprised about the rumored subscription model. They started testing the waters with some subscription based 360 models a while ago.

    I don’t really like it, I’d like those (Cell phone like) subscription based plans to stay away from video games.

    I’m just curious about the constant delays, did the twitter fiasco the other day create another delay?

    I think the delay is creating some bad PR for Microsoft right now, but I don’t they care much. I don’t think they are looking to sell the next box to the same audience, I think that audience is secondary, or even further down the list. This sorta ties into my previous post.

    I touched on how I feel like the next box wants to be some kind of cable box/media app device that also plays games. I think MS will also market is this way, and likely even talk about it this way. When they announce it, I think you will see less gaming focus, more focus on the other stuff. Which means the media coverage will be all over the place. It won’t be covered just by gaming publications, it might actually get more coverage away from gaming publications. Which goes back to my other point. Can we really call a device like this a video game console? I’m not so sure…

    • Bryce Blalex Douglas

      It wouldn’t be a gaming console. We don’t call PC’s or cell phones gaming machines even though they both play games. The next box is the same thing. It’ll be marketed as “a device that does everything, oh and also it plays games too!” If they want to change the original purpose of the device so be it but it’s going to be hard. People associate Xbox with video games. Plus I can’t see many devs continuing giving Microsoft timed exclusives or supporting them at all. If I was a dev I wouldn’t put my game on a device that it’s consumer base isn’t primarily gaming based or let alone give that device exclusive content.

  • PrinceHeir

    lol with japanese companies already abandoning the 360 and jumping ship to either handhelds and possibly Wii U and PS4.

    only Cave is the one that supports them and im not sure if it’s gonna last that long.

    always online drm bullshit, weaker specs, but cost just as much or could be possibly more than PS4.

    all i can say is good luck with that :P

  • GhostNomad

    I’m seeing some funny similarities here… This whole situation reminds me of DmC, from the bad PR, to the fans’ reaction (not as severe but I see little to no support and people being hyped for the next Xbox), and next we know the reviews will be out praising the Durango as the best thing since sliced bread as it struggles to sell a minimal amount of units over several months.

    For the record, I strongly dislike DmC but by all means, if you’re reading this and thinking “he’s talking **** about a game I like, therefore is trying to offend me”, rest assured, I’m not. While I may disagree with your opinions and preferences, I see no point in talking crap over the internet :P

  • http://www.guidingtech.com/ Alvaro Bernedo

    Ok, let me get this straight: So Thurrot complains that people are up in arms about Durango without having seen anything from Microsoft (yet there are countless leaks by now), and on the other hand he says “I look at all this stuff that I’ve seen about Durango and I think, ‘it’s all positive.’”

    So in short, based on the same information, HE is allowed to pass judgment and the rest of us not.

    Ok….

    • GhostNomad

      You know how it goes. Consumers, entitled, all that.

    • Elvick

      Well, if you’ve got nice things to say it’s okay to pre-judge off the same information. If you take that information as bad, then you should stfu.

      Apparently anyway. Not sure when this kind of b/s started, but it’s hilariously stupid to me.

      Nothing wrong with complaining about a potential fail of a decision in my book. Even if it’s a rumor. It’s not like MS has done a good job proving they would never do anything so anti-consumer. Since, you know… they’ve actually proven that they would be the most likely to pull this stuff.

  • http://www.facebook.com/micheal.scott.315 Micheal Scott

    MS what the hell are u plan u money hunger fukes >M<

  • Luke Green

    Sad thing is people are thinking that what the Microsoft employee are saying is true yet it’s his own opinion and it is also sad that people are believing these rumours yet nothing has officially announced.

    • Rezar

      Exactly! It’s just a rumor guys. It may not be the best news to hear but it is still a rumor. Honestly I want to see if what the Next Xbox and PS4 have to offer first. I know the PS4 has been revealed but I am still not sold on it.

  • Ritsujun

    He’s like Adam Orth’s twin brother, or should I say… they’re twin sissies.

  • Nozomi

    Unfortunately, there will always be the blindly biased adults, kids and ignorant parents of kids who will buy this upcoming Xbox without doing proper research. I imagine, based on these rumors, those people will make up a good proportion of the sales.

  • http://twitter.com/RaiuLyn Raiu

    $500 for a standard model!? Did they not learn anything from the PS3 launch?

    • Bryce Blalex Douglas

      Apparently not

  • Bryce Blalex Douglas

    If Microsoft goes through with this then there goes their 3rd party support and their “timed exclusives.” Many developers don’t like DRM or “always online” especially after the Diablo III and SimCity incidents and those where on PC’s.
    It’s sad too I was going to support Microsoft in the next go round but now they’ve just lost my money.

  • Daverost

    “Based on what you’ve seen? You’ve seen nothing. What are you talking
    about? No, but you’ve seen literally nothing from Microsoft.”

    I’ve seen enough. I’ve seen plenty of awful decisions that haven’t been refuted, and that speaks volumes to me. It tells me that these things are going to happen and that I will not want this console.

    If Microsoft wants me as a customer, they need to quit pushing back dates and start telling us what we want to hear.

  • artemisthemp

    Doubt Microsoft will sell a lot of Consol’s, if they take $500 for it.

    Remember ppl call PS3 expensive and it did only $499

    • MrRobbyM

      IT was actually 600 bucks but 500 aint no chump change either.

      • artemisthemp

        Ah I check it up.
        20Gb was $499, while 60GB was $599