Rumor: Sony to abandon DualShock with PS4 - Gematsu
Rumor: Sony to abandon DualShock with PS4
posted on 01.18.13 at 09:57 AM EST by (@salromano)
New controller said to include biometric sensors, touch screen.

Sony will abandon the DualShock design with the release of PlayStation 4, CVG sources have claimed.

According to a “senior games studio working on an upcoming Sony game,” the new system’s controller has undergone a number of different designs, only a few of which resemble the DualShock.

Sony’s Research and Development department has been performing extensive experiments. Versions of the controller include “biometric sensors” and an “LCD touch screen,” according to the source.

A second source, “working in a separate part of the industry but still connected to Sony,” said the company is “trying to emulate the same user interface philosophies as the PS Vita” with the new controller.

The source also claims the console will be revealed within weeks, rather than months.

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  • Akira_Tenshi

    The Vita interface is horrible, it is a cluttered mess. The Playstation controller has remained largely unchanged for years because it was so good. Sounds like they want to take on the Wii U.

    • HassanJamal

      Clutter mess? Its probably the way you arrange your bubbles.

  • Zkaiser

    I hate the skittle design of the PSVita. That UI needs to die and XMB needs to come back.

  • TensaiBaka

    No, don’t you dare SONY!

  • Enigma_XIV

    Touch screen controller, im sorry, but no…

    • MrKappa

      I get the feeling they are trying to make this new controller a Vita.

    • Dean Winchester

      B/C this idea does not work for Wii-U. Nope. Not one bit :-/

  • DesmaX

    As long as it’s not a boomerang

    • MrKappa

      Lol, now that’s something I didn’t think most people remembered.

    • Dean Winchester

      My thoughts exactly.

      • DrForbidden

        Awww, what’s wrong with the boomerang design? With the boomerang, when you throw the controller due to anger or frustration, you don’t have to worry about losing it as it always returns to you… ;P

    • adhesive

      I actually heard it was really comfortable, but it got canned because it looked like a joke.

  • finally, one of the worst controller ever.

    • Dean Winchester

      Mod Edit: Don’t go around insulting and provoking people. Instead, why not ask “Why do you think it’s the worst controller design ever?” Maybe Ryo Saeba has reasons for his statement. Maybe he doesn’t. If you don’t ask, you’ll never know. (Though, I think Ryo should have included those reasons in the first place.)

  • I really hope this isn’t true. The DualShock is iconic.

    • Dean Winchester

      If they go the direction of the (cant believe im about to type this) Wii-U controller but with Sony’s ability to create comfortable to hold, sexy to look at, top of the line electronics…..I think it will be amazing.

      • KurisuMakise

        So in other words, a Vita with good ergonomics for longer play and a smaller screen, better triggers, classic Dual Shock placement for analogs? I second your motion sir, I’m more than okay with this.

    • Yes. It is the most comfortable controller I have used in my life of gaming. I really hope they do not do away with this design.

      • Absolutely, iconic (as Sal said) AND ergonomic, for the most part anyway. All I ask is that they give us a proper freaking d-pad, just connect the damn thing in the middle like on the SNES, or any proper d-pad for that matter!!!! >__>

        That’s all, otherwise, absolutely 100% happy with the DualShock.

        • DrForbidden

          I dunno, I don’t find the DS ergonomic for long play times myself. It’s definitely iconic, and I don’t mind using it, but after marathon sessions my thumb joints ache. Maybe I’m just getting old.

    • Prodigy-X

      Off Topic:
      Are you going to post the new God Of War Ascension trailer that released.

  • WTF I don’t want a freaking console recording my biometrics even Valve has come out about this wanting it… wtf if your biometrics are stolen and this whole gun control things ends up with biometric for guns to limit who can use it.. and your biometric is stolen from a digital data base… and used to activate a gun and kill someone or rob.. your are F$#@!. Your biometric is a blue print of you.. like a finger print.. a digital finger print of you and if that is stolen… man I hope people know what they are getting into when buying these new consoles if this turns out to be true which there is a big chance it is because of what Valve is saying.

    • Dean Winchester

      Here, you dropped this.

      /hands cat a tinfoil hat.

      Looks like two flew over the coocoo’s nest.

      • Thanks for the thumbs down bro. Try harder I almost have a tear down my face.

        • I didn’t “thumbs down” you. -_- And there’s no need to be so rude.

  • Raiyu

    Kinda hope they do change it up a bit. Would like it a bit bigger, with a Vita-like d-pad.

  • Meeleuu

    They already did that before in PS3. The first design was shape like a boomerang. But what happened?

  • MrRobbyM

    As long as it’s comfortable and has a great d-pad, I’ll be happy with whatever it looks like.

  • cody pike

    they said the same things in 2005, but people didnt like it. if sony doesnt listen to customers then they will die a slow death in the gaming market

    • SONY will listen cause they want to succeed with the PS4 early on and forward.

  • I really hope they don’t change the design of the controller too much. The Dual Shock is my favorite controller since that one third party one for the SNES. It’s almost perfect, and with just a few tweaks here and there, it would be perfect.

    • LordKaiser

      The ASCII pad?

  • Ragiacrus

    one of the hardest things to accept is change,

    but I believe in Sony so I’ll play with any controller they create! I’ve been gaming for more than 10 years so adapting to a new controller comes naturally for me. shouldn’t be too hard

    Also for you nostalgic gamers , I wouldn’t be surprised if the dual shock will probably still be usable as an alternative controller for ps4.

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  • Bloodios

    They can implement whatever they want for the new controller, as long that the next generation of Dual Shock is still going to be the primary controller.

  • rockman29

    I feel like if anything Sony will just add to the existing DS3.

    Instead of changing it apart to be a different controller.

    Biometric interface and touch interface can be added to DS3 without ‘changing’ the DS3 per se.

  • I would be fine with a redesign for the next PlayStation’s controller as long as it’s not done in the style of the Xbox. I never cared for the analog and D-pad placement.

    I would like to see a new shape that is just as comfortable as the PlayStation we all come to know and love.

  • Expect Sony to throw in NFC.

  • Pyrofrost

    Well, since “Rumor” is prominently stated in the title, I will treat this as such until we get official word.

  • RedWolfe

    I actually have no problems with the DS and it’s layout has come to become my preference. I’d simply like them to use sturdier material (instead of the plastic they currently use) and fix the L2, R2 triggers to something…better.

    It’ll definitely be interesting to see what they’ve come up with.

  • PrinceHeir

    i think this will be like the Wii U.

    new controllers with compatible with old controllers(they still made a new Pro controller)

    honestly the PS3 controller is the best, and for those weary about the triggers.

    i HIGHLY recommend you trying this

    PDP Dual Triggers, at first i thought it was just a cheap knock off.

    but wow it actually feels like an official one.

    plus it definitely help your game improved by not deliberately pressing the R2 and L2(especially when putting the controller down)

    you definitely need this!

  • The biometrics thing sounds in line with some of Kojima’s comments about his upcoming game.

    And to the Dualshock I say good riddance. DS1 and 2 were awesome but they really screwed up with 3.

    The triggers are useless and the dpad is seriously outdated. Try playing a fighting game with a lot of diagonal inputs on that thing.

    • RedWolfe

      I definitely agree with the triggers but the d-pad?

      I’m curious; outdated compared to what?

    • PrinceHeir

      i HIGHLY suggest you try this

      improves the hell out of the triggers plus with silicone caps for your analog sticks.

      actually i prefer the D-Pad of the PS3.

      the PS2 D-Pad is stiff as hell, you need to constantly keep using the D-Pad to loosen it up, they made the PS3 D-pad much more easy to use.

      not sure about 2D fighting games, but i love playing 3D fighting games on my DS3.

  • NCloud

    Change is inevitable. DS…. you will be missed.

  • MosquitoLemon

    I loved the DualShock 2, but I’m really not a fan of the DualShock 3 (having gone from pad player in fighting games with PS2 to ‘Oh my god, I have to have an arcade stick’ with the PS3). My personal favs now are the GC controller and the 360 controller. Wouldn’t mind if Sony went the 360 route.

    edit – I don’t play fighters with the GC or 360 pads, I was just explaining my preference for DS2 over DS3

  • c4rl2012

    It’s about time. It’d be nice if they give the new controller the same d-pad as the Vita, but larger.

  • I’d love to see them make it compatible with the Vita as well for this, so you can use the Vita as a controller for every playstation orbis game.

  • Solomon_Kano

    I really hope this isn’t true. It most likely is, but I love the Dualshock. Only controllers I liked as much were the Gamecube and N64 ones.

    If they take anything from the Vita though, I’d love to see them use its d-pad. Make it a bit larger and that would be excellent.

  • ShinAsura

    Replacement controllers are going to be expensive

  • I refuse to believe this. I feel like the Dualshock is part of the PlayStation brand. It’s been around since the original PS.

    How about they keep the Dualshock, and release this new controller as a stand alone we can buy?

    • YangTerlupakan

      for what???
      sony have bad record selling separated accessory for Playstation from PS EYES until MOVE

      keep dualshock with not revolution to playing game is just step back for PS4

  • I’ll be sad to see the controller I use for years go away…

  • new_tradition

    I’m not sure how I feel about this. I’m not adverse to change, but the controller is the main way I identify a PS console. Perhaps whatever future controller there is, it still looks like the dualshock one? Or keep dualshock, but have peripherals to attach to the controller? I bought that keypad for my ps3 controller, so I could see other things made. Though I’d be curious about a front and back touch screen controller…

  • Mar Mar

    I can’t mash buttons with a touch controller!

  • dont tell me the controller for PS4 will be PS vita?

  • Don’t fix if it ain’t broken.
    Most comfortable controller I’ve ever played. Granted I never played on other controller except NES one.

  • Prodigy-X

    It would be sad if this is true but that how industry rolls. It all about progressing and people will learn to accept the new controller if its true.

  • xxx128

    Congrats, i HATED the old design ever since it came out in 94′. One of the worst controllers ever. The 4 buttons were too small. The shoulder buttons were awfully cheap and flimsy feeling. The D-Pad was probably the worst i ever used on any controller. The whole structure isnt ergonomic at all. And a controller should have 6 buttons in a row unless you blatantly copy the snes controller design and add horns to it. Eiter way; good riddance.

  • AnimusVox

    I don’t want SONY to over do it on the new system. I’m content with my dualshock.

  • Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • ddsfan2

    On one hand, I don’t think changing the DualShock is a good idea, (I especially like the DS3) since I don’t like any of their competitors current home console controllers. On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind a microswitch type dpad like the Vita, Sega systems, or 3ds has.

    I would totally be down for a Saturn like controller as well, especially with two rows of three buttons.

    Either way, I hope they don’t try to make it like the 360 controller — I bought the Mayflash universal adapter to use on the 360 for a reason.