Rumor: PlayStation 4 to support 4K resolution - Gematsu
Rumor: PlayStation 4 to support 4K resolution
posted on 08.22.12 at 04:28 PM EST by (@salromano)
1920x1080? Try, like, 4096x3072.

PlayStation 4 will support 4K resolution when it launches, according to a BGR source.

Similar to PlayStation 3 and Blu-ray, Sony is hoping that by supporting 4K resolution with PlayStation 4, it will give customers the incentive to upgrade to new 4K television sets, which it plans to introduce this holiday.

As all rumors go, take this with a grain of salt until confirmed.

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  • zakou

    I don’t think it’s a rumor lol it will support Quad HD Tvs but the games will not run at Quad HD, that’s insane, it will just support Quad HD content such as movies? new bluray discs that supprt QHD? maybe even a game or two that will run at that definition just like GT5 is running at 1080p 60frames on the PS3.

    • Considering Sony has never even officially announced anything PlayStation 4 related – everything is a rumor.

      • zakou

        True but we both know that this is sonys speciallity always giving us new technology.

        PS1: CD = SD tv’s
        PS2: DVD = SD/Wide screen 100 hz tv’s with alot better quality
        PS3: Bluray = HD/3D tv’s
        PS4: New bluray disc? with 200GB cap? or new format? Quad HD tvs?

        • 浪黒雷 (ro-kurorai)

          There are actually BluRays with 128 GB of storage space available in Japan. At the current pace of technology evolution anything can happen by the time Orbis and Durango launch.

  • Yuri4prez

    I wouldn’t doubt it. Sounds like something Sony would do. Hell, sounds like any large entertainment company would do.

    Apple=Apple products
    MS=MS products
    Sony=Sony products.

    Nothing new.

  • Kougeru

    This will be their “bluray” probably. Most games wont support it (in blurays case, most didnt need it because of multiplatform  games had to be able to fit on DVDs ..MGS4 being one that DID need it), but it will be something that non-gamers will look into.  Considering how much power a 1080p game requires, i doubt any game will actually support true 4K resolution. Keeping in mind that 360 only actually upscales to even 720p and isnt even true HD capable machine and it has trouble with even that (many games only running at 30 fps and such).  The higher end PC games that I’ve seen people playing at crazy resolutions on super high end cards can even struggle at just 2K resolutions.  If the PS4 is anywhere near the rumored Next XBOX specs, I highly doubt we’ll see NATIVE 4K gaming at all on the system.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Uh oh. You said some things about the 360 that could be taken as negative.

      Tread lightly sir.

  • rockman29

    PS4 gonna be badass, full of badassery that is, nuff said.

  • Chris Bosak

    I’m hearing that PS4 will be fully B.C for PS1,PS2,and PS3 disc games, and Digital Distribution.That  is what I hear. 

    • DrForbidden

      I honestly doubt that. If PS3 isn’t even BC for PS2 games, there is next to zero chance that PS4 will be fullt BC for all previous versions. Add to that the fact that BC creates a lot of problems with the region-lock systems of previous consoles, and you have a potential minefield to wade through.

    • DrForbidden

      I honestly doubt that. If PS3 isn’t even BC for PS2 games, there is next to zero chance that PS4 will be fullt BC for all previous versions. Add to that the fact that BC creates a lot of problems with the region-lock systems of previous consoles, and you have a potential minefield to wade through.

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        My PS3 is fully BC with PS2 games.

        Not sure where you were on November 18 2006 but I was in Gamestop laying down $760 cash for my 60gb fatty, Resistance and an extra six axis controller.

        Lots of others were there with me purchasing backwards compatible PS3’s as well.

        Was a good day.

        • DrForbidden

          Yeah, great. So maybe 10-20% of all manufactured PS3s are BC. I don’t know about you, but I tend to look at the bigger numbers with these things. PS2-BC PS3s are the exception, not the norm.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            But you said PS3 “isn’t ps2 BC”.
            Many PS3’s are.

            Based on ps3 “not” being ps2 BC you said there is “next to zero chance ps4 will be fully BC” but you must admit there is at least a better than “next to zero” chance the launch models of PS4 will be fully BC yes?

            • DrForbidden

              The second part of your post is quite true. I stand corrected. I’m curious how they will implement PS3-BC in the PS4, though, considering the lack of the Cell processor.

              The first part, however, is just arguing semantics. I’m fully aware that launch PS3s are PS2-BC. I don’t think that THAT many PS3s are PS2-BC, at least not in sufficient numbers to make a difference in the general statement that the PS3 is not PS2-BC. If someone makes the general statement that ‘Goats have horns’, he does not declare that every single goat that has existed since the dawn of time has or has had horns, nor does it necessarily dispute the fact that a minority of goats do not have horns. It merely imputes that, under most conditions, most goats encountered by most people do, in fact, have horns. Exceptions and caveats always exist.

              Fully PS2-BC were only available as launch models, and later models have partial BC. Even the partial BC models were discontinued back in 2007. PS2-BC PS3s were only in production for a just over a year. PS3 sales have picked up considerably since the first year, with corresponding boosts in manufacturing. For the vast majority of PS3 owners who don’t own a pre-2008 model, or who has since replaced their pre-2008 models, the PS3 is effectively non-BC for PS2 games. That there are some models out there which are PS2-BC does not have an impact on the experiences of most of these individuals as they are unlikely to be able to obtain one.

              • Malcolm Reynolds

                Fair Enough.

                I too wonder how PS4 will be PS3 BC w/o a cell as well.

                Guess we shall see. Makes no nevermind to someone like me b/c I dont trade systems to buy new ones so I will always have a PS3 on hand to play them considering I already have a fatty and a slim and plan to buy a “super slim” when/if they actually launch one.

                • DrForbidden

                  Wow, you’re a huge fan.

                  I only buy new units to replace dead/dying ones…

    • 浪黒雷 (ro-kurorai)

      Well, Sony acquired Gaikai. I’d say it would be asinine of Sony not to use it for full BC and for streaming of demos. Downloading and installing 1-2 GB of data just to play a demo ain’t fun.

  • How about we get all the console games playing at full 1080p with at least 60fps first guys? I buy quite a bit of games, and many of them still only list 480p/720p on the back of the box.

    • Haruya

      Agree, totally. 60fps is just what every game should be, and not that awful 30fps that doesn’t even look half as good (I’m looking at you, BF3).

    • DrForbidden

      Unfortunately, that’s not going to happen, dude. Games are the responsibility of the developers, and making games that run at 1080p /60fps would be extremely difficult, expensive, and take too long to make. The same will apply to the PS4. Just because it CAN display up to 4k resolution, does not mean that most games will run at that resolution. Hell, I’m even doubtful that many PS4 games will run at 1080p/60 fps, when all is said and done.

      • Let’s not underestimate what improved hardware and new game engines will bring to the next generation of gaming.

        • DrForbidden

          Yes, I agree, but it’s not like 1080p/60fps is impossible now, either. It’s just not cost effective to the developers. Will new technology make it more cost effective? Doubtless, but would it be to a significant degree where 1080p/60fps would be adopted? And would they do the extra work required if they could get away with 720p/30fps? If we look at the development time and costs of AAA current-gen titles, would developers be justified in taking longer and spending more just to make 1080p/60fps a reality? Especially when the prices of games are not likely to increase very much more for the next few years? At the end of the day, it is a cost-effectiveness issue, and given what we’ve seen this generation (some games even have trouble running 30fps at 720p) in terms of developer commitment and competence, I’m rather hesitant.

          I’m not naysaying 1080p/60fps in the next-gen, BTW, and I’m definitely no expert on the issue, but personally I don’t see it happening at the beginning of the next-gen. I’d love to be proven wrong, though.

          • I couldn’t agree more on the cost part. The cost is going to keep rising, and I think we can all agree that the cost of making games these days is to high, and I really think something needs to be done. Just what exactly is the solution? I really can’t say, I’m not involved in the entire process a new game goes through from creation to hitting the store shelf.

            The idea of a game getting a 100 million dollar budget seems rather absurd to me. I still believe we can develop games and sell them without having to spend millions of dollars in the process. Look at some of the great games from indie developers. The budget backing them is small, if they get any backing at all.

            I think a place to look at is marketing, actually, I know that is a place for publishers to look at.

            Sometimes its the people the publishers hire to market their games that fail. Often times, they keep it all in house and have a marketing team of their own. Or they have a go to company to market everything.

            Sega is struggling because they put tons of money into the budgets of crappy games, and those games were going to be lucky to sell copies. To top it off, they bring over quality games from Japan, and then pretend the games don’t even exist. Why should we put money into selling good games? I don’t know Sega, you tell me?

            Smaller publishers seem to do a much better job with marketing. Why? I think they understand the audience, are more in touch with the fans, and they understand that they won’t have much cash to spend marketing wise, so they can’t afford to mess it up.

            Atlus for example, they don’t have tons of money to market games with. Just about every cent they get goes into localizing a game, getting it ready for a western release. Despite not having that huge budget, they find ways to sell games and make profit.

            All of this just brings me back to my point. Smarter marketing just might help some of the cost issues in the current world of gaming. I don’t think the process of creating games is going to get cheaper. The hardware is going to always get better, and the engines will improve, allowing for better games to be made.

            Finally, back to the discussion about 1080p visuals and 60 FPS. You know why I expect this to happen with the PS4 and next Xbox? I think it has to. Why in the world are we upgrading if developers are just going to push the new hardware to the bare minimum? Not only will some of the top developers not stand for that, gamers won’t either.

            If you want the hardcore market to support a new console, which is typically the crowd that gets new consoles at launch. You better provide not only new games, but new games that show some of what the new console can do.

            If Sony launches the new PlayStation with a brand new Uncharted for example. Gamers will expect the visuals to be far superior to the PS3 games, and they will expect the performance to be enhanced as well.

            I understand why you think it might not happen, and you make some good points. I think many of those points can be formed into questions. Questions that many are already asking. Do we need really new consoles? I think that is the real million dollar question. 

  • AdamBoy64

    I highly doubt it will. It would cost a fortune. Well, maybe not if it launches in 2014 or 2015.

  • KingOptimusOrigins111

    It could be true because remember Sony likes to be first at a lot of stuff like blu ray, internet, 3D, graphics on PS Vita, and more. Didn’t Sony also show Uncharted 2 on 4k resolution as a demo on a tour once.

  • ole

    Why not? LG, Toshiba, Panasonic already released a UDTV. Sony is developing it is own.

  • Malcolm Reynolds

    My body is ready.

  • Good news. Some may say “The HD we have now is all I need” BUT!! in a few years all TVs in our houses will use this just look at the Wii it has no HD and its 2012!! compare it to 360 and PS3. I am hoping Nintendo will add this to the Wii U they will need it in the long run.

  • Things like this actually make even video projectors look better.

  • How big would your TV need to be to support this?

    • AdamBoy64

      None of the TV’s out that are 1080p support 4K. As in, existing TV’s won’t do the 4K resolution.
      You’d need to purchase a new TV.

      In terms of what size screens will have that ‘4K’ support – we’ve really only seen the big screens (70 inches+) so far, but I’m sure smaller sizes will come. 

      • ole

        Toshiba already offers a smaller 55in 4K screen UDTV, and Panasonic a 20in model.

        • AdamBoy64

          Oh okay. I can’t see either of those available for sale yet – but I’m sure they’re not too far off.

  • Malcolm Reynolds

    Anyone think that this may be the next big “push” from Sony while MS is just catching up by putting a BluRay drive in their next console?

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      Bluray can do 4k :D
       Also more then just sony are pushing this one

      • I don’t think it can be accomplished without at least creating a whole new profile standard, meaning, everybody is going to have to get new BD players as well as new TVs all over again.  

        • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

          Well some br are already able to do 4k,so who knows.

  • xxx128

    I’d be impressed if they actually would come up with a new controller and an original name. Wake me up when there is playstation 17, lol.

    • I like both, personally. I’d rather they not change.

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        I am shocked you dignified that petty troll attempt with an actual response Sal.

    • 浪黒雷 (ro-kurorai)

      If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.