Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth getting physical PS Vita English release in Asia
posted on 01.04.16 at 12:05 PM EDT by (@salromano)
Available for pre-order now for $49.99.

Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth

Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth will launch for PlayStation 4 via retail and digitally, and for PS Vita digitally, in North America and Europe next month, but Asia will also get an English PS Vita retail release.

The English PS Vita retail release is available for pre-order now on Play-Asia for $49.99, and will also launch in February.

Thanks, NeoGAF.

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  • Renaldi Saputra

    such a fortunate I live on South East Asia

  • NZH97

    Wish EU had physical copy

    • Kenny

      The only chance for you to get them is purchasing in Play-Asia.

      • NZH97

        Yeah Ik sadly

    • MrSushi

      Italy, Germany and UK but only for PS4

      • NZH97

        Yeah IK

  • mopet54 .

    yes yes yes!!

  • Hexodious

    Lol
    They must really hate the West, eh?

    • Renaldi Saputra

      no, bcos Vita base users are big in Asia, no wonder why every Vita game that was localized into Taiwan (chinese ver) always had physical version. Also in SEA it’s also big, in my country there are a lot of Vita owners rather than PS4 (for now)

      • Kenny

        Asia got lot more anime fans than west so i know why it the market is more bigger, but still Asia still pretty much mobile land xDDD

        • Renaldi Saputra

          I think the economy also takes a role into this, here in Indonesia not much ppl will buy a PS4 coz the price is still high, meanwhile PS Vita in here it’s only around $200. Handheld is more affordable for ppl like us. Most of gamers here still prefer PC gaming, though (no wonder why DoTA is very big on here, also much steam users). But for console gaming, 3DS and Vita are the biggest for now

          • Kenny

            it a little bit different in Malaysia, most of my friends who is console gaming switch to mobile, even MMORPG players switch to mobile, and there still a lot anime fans buying PS Vita here luckily so the sales still pretty decent.

            And yeah, a lot Pokemon fans in my place buying 3ds though, i still din’t hearing many peoples get PS4 over my place as well.

            • Renaldi Saputra

              from what I hear, yeah mostly throughout SEA, PS4 is still not affordable for now. Since things like PSP was introduced, many ppl here started to move on from console gaming into handheld. Thus PS3 is also not that big here (only rental shop lol)

          • Quad Vesper

            mostly cyber cafe around SEA popular with game dota2 or lol and other moba games..coz its f2p~~~

        • Quad Vesper

          mobile land for rich people with vita and 3ds, and mobile phone for mid rich people only interested download f2p game…

          • Kenny

            It pretty sad a lot peoples in my place switch to mobile, they like to using an iphone for gaming/f2p games than buying a 3ds and vita.

            I still remembered one of my friend buying a sony phone just only want to playing play station games lol he know what is a PSP but still buying a phone which is more expensive instead lol (the most ridiculous thing ever)

            • Quad Vesper

              coz now days mobile phone games are getting better and better….. its about sooner or later vita and 3ds… might suffer some “dmg”…..but most i see go for mobile phone they can play mobile phone games for free including emulator games…

      • I am gundam

        A lot of my Korean friends has a vita too

        • Renaldi Saputra

          indeed

    • Luna Kazemaru

      no the west hates the vita

      • Kao

        No, sony hates the vita

        • Kenny

          Sony west hate Vita.

        • Luna Kazemaru

          That still doesn’t refute my statement at all but ok yes sony does not care much for pushing it aswell.

      • OverlordZetta

        Sony hated it first.

        • Mr Fwibbles

          Sony hated the Vita before it was cool.

        • Elvick

          Nope, consumers hated it first. And Sony followed. Check the first and second party lineup again early on.

          You’ve bought into a meme, not reality.

      • http://myanimelist.net/profile/chibuki chibuki

        It’s a mutual relationship. But really, it was the Vita owners all over the world who petitioned for the localization. We never expected it to be ported for PS4. Bamco is trying to reach out to the biggest market in the west and yet Cyber Sleuth is not even in most PS4 owner’s 2016 to-buy list. That’s why I’m bitter.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          exactly, considering digimon is still a niche title, it’s also same for SAO LS PS4, was it on most of PS4 owner’s to-buy list?
          They only wanna reach wider, but not the widest

        • Elvick

          Speak for yourself. I expected it to be ported to PS4. I knew it would happen if the game was localized. Been saying it since forever, it was obvious this would occur.

  • Renaldi Saputra

    this is just like SAO HF again after all

    • Mr Fwibbles

      I don’t think you’ll have to rest up for more penetration this time around.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        no, not translation-wise, but distributing-wise

  • JuVu

    Time to pre-order, then. Even though the Day One bonuses for the digital EU release look tempting. If they could have just given a limited retail release in US and EU there wouldn’t be any problems, but that’s BN for you.

    • Aluja

      You’re complaining about, yet you’re also hurting it….

      • Renaldi Saputra

        at least they’re still buying it. Many ppl I met still comfortable for the digital vita release and will buy them eventually, considering the size of the game isn’t that much

      • JuVu

        Would have really liked to rant worth several rows of text for that comment, but I’ll just leave it with this: I said that I would buy a physical Vita version if there ever was one, and I’m a man of my word.

  • KazeJoestar

    Thanks but no thanks. I don’t understand whats so hard about releasing a physical Vita version here in the west. That being said I am getting it day 1 on both PS4 and Vita.

  • Zeria

    Hmm…tempting. I might cave and get that as well.

    • awvnx

      Depends on your country. If it’s the USA then you have no problem. If you’re in Europe and you order by Fedex, prepare to get an additional customs fee of something like 40 euro if you import. But airmail is fine.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        oh man Fedex is the worst anw

  • Quad Vesper

    actually i want to get this game and odin sphere if i register US account …. now only left will they release odin sphere for asia in english version….. :( dammit

  • DarthBrian

    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRTTTTTTT!!!

  • James Reilly

    Lol just like that zero reason to get the localized version. Thanks NA branch for not giving the game the effort it deserved and now knowing them they will blame the lack of their vita localization sales for this game on lack of interest when it’s really Bamco with the lack of interest.

    • Manny Being Manny

      Cheaper and you don’t get the DLC with this version. If you’re not a “No physical no buy” person there is still reason to get the NA version.

      • James Reilly

        I don’t care that it’s $10 more since you also get the physical form + save memory. I’m one of those that bought the AnS+ Physical LE [and pre-order the E&L+ Physical LE] that was at least $10 more then digital and you can get the DlC still with a work around. Also if one cares about saving money to begin with as a priority then they wouldn’t even get the game day 1 and wait for a sale.

    • awvnx

      At this price ($55 after shipping) and 1-2 week delayed delivery time, I would just go for the PS4 physical if I wanted the physical game on launch. Still disappointing, but it’s good that there’s an option for those who want it on Vita physical.

      • James Reilly

        Of course it’s not the perfect alternative. If there was an option to just buy the vita game at my local GameStop 5 min away or off Amazon then that would be best, but at least now there is an option for Vita gamers to get the physical game with the translations. That way it’s not just the “our way or the highway” mentality of the local Bamco branches.

    • Tetsu

      Still, we need to support NA release so we can get Next Order, and subsequent releases. There is nothing we can do. Absence of sales will never help. That’s what started this in the first place. It’s unfortunate that the Vita is not selling well, but it’s just the way it happened. I strongly recommend everyone get this game in some form here in the states.

      • James Reilly

        Sure. The moment NA offers a physical version of this game for Vita like PS4 then I’ll cancel my Asia pre-order and support the localization which I love to do and have done for other localizations. Not my fault Bamco won’t help me help them. I’m not gonna intentionally gimp my preference of entertainment just for the CHANCE of better treatment in the future just because Bamco like to take next to zero risk in anything. If they won’t do that so be it they are not interested in my sale I will take my business elsewhere [which I have done in the past for example imported Vita J Stars + from EU since NA was digital only] which luckily there is now an option to do so.

  • http://myanimelist.net/profile/chibuki chibuki

    I’m freaking out. This isn’t one of those English/Chinese version is it? It’s the same version as the digital version that’s in American PS Store right? Right??

    • Renaldi Saputra

      yeah, Bamco Asia said they took the western version and just release it for fans in SEA

      • http://myanimelist.net/profile/chibuki chibuki

        Great, on second thought I forgot we’re dealing with Vita. Any DLC contents would be problematic if it only works with Asian PSN account. Guess I’m sticking with digital after all.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          that’s the consequences after all, unless you live in asia and using R3 Asia PSN account.
          I’m using R2 Japan, so, welp, guess I should change too

          • http://myanimelist.net/profile/chibuki chibuki

            Well I checked in the Japanese PS Store that the digital ver. size is 1.5GB bar any update files and additional installs. Should it be the same for the English version, it would ease my pain at least.

            • Renaldi Saputra

              yeah but considering this eng ver had Blast Mode and Cherubi Vice, also difficulty options, I guess it’s gonna be around 1.6 GB

  • Raiyu

    I’m considering it…but I really want Beelzebubmon Blast Mode :(

    • Renaldi Saputra

      maybe you should change into R3 Asia PSN account

      • Raiyu

        That’s too much of a hassle on Vita.

    • Kenny

      you can’t get everythings

      • Raiyu

        I want my cake and to eat it too :(

    • Quad Vesper

      just get what you suits best.. i prefer including dlc.. kinda sad if you lost 2 mega level digimon…. that came from dlc…

  • Rain

    Y’all need to stop crying about no physical release. Game is still the same whether it’s physical or digital. Crying about irrelevant crap like that will get you nowhere, jeez

    • JuVu

      Criticizing digital only releases on Vita is definitely not “irrelevant crap”.

      • Rain

        Vita and its community of gamers are niche, Bamco obviously wouldn’t give it as much attention and care as the PS4 version. They’re a business about making maximum profit after all.

        • James Reilly

          Well clearly other localizers must be magic since they would at least do physical releases rather consistently for the Vita. Even indies that are a fraction of Bamco size do it.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            big companies, well, they want bigger profits with less budget for sure rather than indies which seeking for value proposition as priority

        • Zackasaur

          If they want to maximise profits, they shouldn’t shoot their sales in the knee.

          This only communicates on thing– a lack of faith in the product.

          • Rain

            Digimon is not that big though, especially not in the west, unfortunately. If this was some big game, obviously it would get a physical release on both platforms. But Digimon hasn’t seen a release on a console in the west in so long, and they have to at least test the waters. If this game sells well enough, I’m sure we’ll get the next Digimon game physically for Vita too.

            • James Reilly

              Doesn’t explain why the PS4 got a physical port of a Vita game for an unproven IP. Install base size hardly represents consumer demographic that like these relatively niche games. SAO sold better on Vita here for one

              • Renaldi Saputra

                sold better? Has the sales chart out? How’s the PS4 version then?

              • Rain

                PS4 has a laughably bigger audience and userbase than the Vita in the west, Bamco knows this and released their game accordingly.

                • James Reilly

                  Read again

                  Install base size does not equal consumer demographic. Plenty of past examples support this with X game selling more on Y platform despite being a lower size.

                  • Rain

                    Maybe this game will sell more on Vita, maybe not. Either way, it’s perfectly playable on both platforms with zero changes related to purchase method.

            • Renaldi Saputra

              even so, why SAO HF didn’t at first? Isn’t SAO big on west?

              • Rain

                I don’t really know much about SAO. But I know HF was digital only in the west, and after they saw how good the sales were, they released (will release) the second game physically over here. Bamco will probably and/or hopefully do the same with Digimon games.

                • Renaldi Saputra

                  it was a big hit on west around 2013-14 but Bamco still took safe-way to localize it. Being popular just by trending topic just isn’t that relevant. It depends on how the publisher do

            • Zackasaur

              They get to choose how to test the waters, however. Even something like a limited physical release on Vita would have guaranteed sell-through while communicating a lot more faith in the IP and respect for fans.

              There are plenty of better publishers out there who do so already.

              The only wrong approach here would be to be uncritical.

              • Rain

                Exactly, remember SAO? The first game was digital only in the west, and after the game outsold their expectations and sold well, they now plan on releasing the second game physically for the fans because they know there is enough interest. I guess Bamco will do the same for Digimon, which is why it’s important to support this game instead of whining about it.

                • Zackasaur

                  If people had all supported SAO without a peep, Bandai Namco may have changed nothing.

    • Manny Being Manny

      Its almost like some people like to own the things they buy. Just being given access to a digital version isn’t ever going to be the same for some people.

      • Rain

        People who want the game, regardless of physical or digital, obviously want to *play* the game and are interested in it. Why waste potentially tons of hours of enjoyment because of their purchase method? Too many spoiled trolls these days.

        • persona_yuji

          Oh oh, we have a feisty one here! “Spoiled trolls”? Get off your high horse.

          • Luna Kazemaru

            he might not be wrong in your case atleast when it comes to trying to act like a troll >.>

            • persona_yuji

              That a fact?

      • Renaldi Saputra

        well, this thing happened with SAO HF, with many ppl ended up buying the asian one, but in the end the digital sales for western version were on top 10 for several weeks

    • persona_yuji

      Oh, I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings. Here, have a digital cookie.

      • Rain

        Thank You ^_^

    • James Reilly

      What is personal preference especially regarding on how one spends for a product.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      anw It’s $49.99 physically, if you can save several bucks for digital release which is cheaper, why not?

      • Rain

        Exactly. I’ll get it DIGITALLY for my PS4 because I’m usually too lazy to switch discs and this is a game i wanna have access to with ease. The game is still exactly the same regardless of purchase method.

      • ohlala lala

        Pretty sure Asian local retail price for physical copy will around $35-40 just like others new released. Play-Asia target market are those who want to want to get asia exclusive release.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          I guess so

    • Zackasaur

      You need to stop crying about other people’s legitimate complaints about what is in fact very relevant to them.

      It’s the same vocal people that got a localisation in the first place. We should always have a right to communicate what we expect from our games and publishers, especially when the request at hand is so incredibly basic.

      • Rain

        I hardly care what people do. I’m just giving some friendly advice to people who could potentially miss out on a great game for silly reasons.

        • James Reilly

          How is getting this physical ‘missing out’?

          • JuVu

            You won’t be getting the digital content they’re offering with the PSN release when bought during the launch period. Those are the only things.

          • Rain

            It’s not. Reread my comment.

        • Zackasaur

          1. You clearly care what people do if you take time to complain about it.

          2. The advice isn’t friendly if the target audience feel assaulted by it– and they rightfully do.

          3. “Silly reasons” is a silly bit of reasoning, itself– especially when there is a very extensive and obvious list of fantastic reasons for people to feel as they do, ranging from actual legal ownership, to limited and expensive storage, to market competition, to internet caps and speeds, to collector’s passion, to basic principle, and beyond.

          • Rain

            I was merely pointing out the childish reaction of some people. I care about this game selling well, not the invalid complainers. I know physical is usually better than digital, I just don’t think it’s a logical reason to avoid a game you’re actually interested in. I’m getting it digitally for my PS4 as well.

            • Zackasaur

              But, see, consumers demonstrating dissatisfaction with a product is not childish–it is entirely mature. And your insistence on infantilising and insulting people for communicating their wants hardly seems like the “friendly advice” you previously suggested. It just seems mean-spirited.

              I for one would completely skip this game without a second thought if it didn’t align with my needs and principles by being digital-only. And I certainly wouldn’t be silenced on the matter, either.

              It’s fine for you to have your own preferences. No one here has ever suggested that it is ~wrong~ for someone else to want a digitally locked copy. It’s not fine to insult others for communicating their own wants, and that just sets a bad precedence. That’s especially unfortunate when those people have never harmed you in turn.

              • Rain

                But you see, this type of behavior WILL harm me if it keeps up. People avoiding this game = less sales = less chance of us Digimon fans getting future Digimon games. It’s been so long since we actually got a Digimon RPG, people should be thankful Bamco has finally given us a game instead of crying about it. Pretty sure most of those people just want some attention, but it’s annoying regardless.

                • Zackasaur

                  That would be Bandai Namco’s fault. Not the fault of dissatisfied and mistreated customers. And Bandai Namco would be losing money because of their own incompetence.

                  Publishers should not be deified.

    • http://myanimelist.net/profile/chibuki chibuki

      But but how we got the game localized was by crying in the first place!

    • ayanami-chan

      This is not irrelevant at all

  • Wolf Star

    Well… I know how the comments will end and this article will be locked.

  • Cyberjin

    so tempting :o
    maybe I should just get it, even though there is a risk of import fees.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      I guess you gotta think more carefully.
      I can explain:
      1. The price for physical asian is $49.99, that’s about $10 more expensive that your average handheld game in west. Meanwhile in the PSN digital it could be around $39.99.
      2. This game’s size is lower than 2GB (even after the expansion, I believe, since the JP one is around 1.5GB), for Vita users this shouldn’t be a problem to purchase a digital ver if they’re using 16 GB or higher memory card and still have spaces for others.
      3. If you import, you will get higher price (coz of tax too) and less contents (coz u can’t access the DLC, different region, except if you wanna change PSN account)

      so think wisely

      • James Reilly

        Yeah clearly no bias in this set of reasons that doesn’t explain thie whole story lol

      • Cyberjin

        I don’t really care about DLC and I don’t mind paying a little extra for hard copy. but those import fees though haha

        • Renaldi Saputra

          well, then that’s your choice.

      • Zackasaur

        There is nothing unwise about the way he was already thinking, though.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          depends on someone’s preferences, I only give some explanation, the choice lies in him

          • Zackasaur

            Certainly. I am just suggesting that he already knows his preferences.

  • Jelly King

    Hoping people don’t mess up the sales numbers by purchasing this copy :/.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      SAO HF faced the same situation, yet the outcome told differently

    • Luna Kazemaru

      pretty sure its not

    • Wolf Star

      Maybe not? Idk

  • Traingham

    That girl in the night gown (upper left corner) doesn’t look like her spine will hold out much longer with the weight she’s holding on her back, and head.

  • Wolf Star

    If you guys get the Aisa ver then the DLC won’t work on the U.S. Ver. Or EU just saying if anyone want those awesome DLC and wallpaper thing.

    • Cyberjin

      well some of us doesn’t really care about DLC
      and if we really wanted it, we can always change region

      • Wolf Star

        Some people want the DLC and some don’t want.

  • Obelisk

    There isn’t enough demand for the west for a physical Vita release people. Simple as that.

    • Zackasaur

      All apparent signs of demand speak otherwise, not that hard data is available.

      If anything, this is Bandai Namco having no faith in the product. And then if they’re surprised, as they were with SAO, they will fix the broken approach for the next round.

      Let’s definitely not just assume almighty wisdom on the part of a game publisher, yet alone one so historically mistaken.

      • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

        Damn you got there first!

        Screw it, I’ll still post lol

        • Zackasaur

          You should! More voices spreading reason is always better. c:

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

            I did, no one can silence the ultimate Digimon fan which is me! *Evil laugh*

            • Wolf Star

              We are fans :3 I’ve been a fan since 2000.

              • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

                I’ve been a fan since the first episode broadcast in August 1999 in the UK :)

                • Wolf Star

                  I remember watching a lot of Digimon in 1999 and 2000 even playing Digimon World 1 on Ps1 and it was amazing :) I haven’t played a Digimon game since 2000 and I’m happy to get back in 2016 ^_^

                  • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

                    You didn’t play Rumble Arena 1& 2? Some great games right there man :)

                    • Wolf Star

                      I’ve played the DS games but I haven’t gotten into them. I haven’t played other Digimon games at all.

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

      There’s a very good demand for it. The petition to bring over Cyber Sleuth had…63k signatures?

      Bamco said they want to see around 120k copies of Cyber Sleuth sold before they consider localizing any future games.

      Even if not all of those 63k people buy the game, there are many who still will.

      Digimon is more popular then they (and other people) think in the west. Now, let’s show them that we’re Digi-Fans!

      • Wolf Star

        We do want Next World to be localized :) please don’t show greed and moan and just get the damn game.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

          Whoa man! No greed or moaning from me, well…I’m double dipping on the game lol

          Since day one I’ve said that I’m just happy to be getting the game :)

          Bring on Next Order!

          • Wolf Star

            Dude yes!! :) I know I mean moan and greed by other people who doesn’t want to buy because it’s digital. To be honest, I don’t care if it is or not. I want Digimon game and I don’t want to wait extra 10 years to bring another game localized. I’ll be married and having kids by the time next Digimon game gets localized. Lol

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

              I’ve a feeling Bamco will bring future titles out dw. They want money after all, so let’s just buy the games.

              They’re also adding the western exclusive Digimon as well, plus the other goodies :)

              • Wolf Star

                Yeah even the DLC exclusive that Japan never got.

      • Obelisk

        I agree but sadly Bandai doesn’t.. Hopefully with the good sales of Cyber Sleuth, Bandai will change their mind about future release.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        but then you gotta realize that the petition was first made for Decode, not Cyber Sleuth. Those 3DS owners might not having PSV

        • James Reilly

          And? The PS4 only crowd wasn’t even involved with the petition to begin with yet here we are.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            The petition is actually only about “bring this game to west”, so it’s actually not focusing about what console they should release this on. I believe Bamco thought like that, and PS4 has the biggest user base in west, so they decided to do it

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

          Honestly, I think Decode was a lost cause. I mean, it would’ve been awesome to see it come over, but I can’t really comment on it as I’ve no knowledge regarding that.

          I think Bamco decided to release Cyber Sleuth in the west as it’s the most recent title imo.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            I think it’s bcos OP Decode changed the main objective of the petition, from focusing only on Decode (as what their name derived from) into Decode and Cyber Sleuth. Before Cyslu was announced from Japan the petition had done around 35k numbers. And I don’t think most of them are also dual wielder vita-3ds and they might be not a digisto-fans with turn based system

        • Dont-leave-us-Atlus

          Didn’t hear about decode if its good I retroactively want it because I am one of those of which the you speak 3ds and vita dual wielder and i plan on getting at least one copy of cyber s.

    • ayanami-chan

      I don’t think that is quite true.

  • Zackasaur

    It’s still quite a shame that Bandai Namco are failing as many fans as they are, but this is definitely good news. Physical copies should be a basic right on every platform in every region where the publisher is present.

    I know a whole lot of Vita owners who will be importing this. c:

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

      Hush, be grateful we’re getting the damn thing!

      • Zackasaur

        I’m grateful for what we are getting and prepared to be vocal about what we aren’t. :P

        We should be better than this, though. Any publisher is happiest when people began and grovel for their products and then happily laptop up whatever they receive, no matter how half-assed.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

          Damned humans always wanting more lol

          Imo, we’ve a better chance of Next Order getting physical on Vita. That is if they don’t just port it to the PS4 for the west.

          • Zackasaur

            If we do, maybe I will consider the Vita version of that.

            As it stands, the role of the fan/consumer is always to communicate our wants and to back those up both vocally and with our wallets.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

          I’m just voicing my opinion, that I’m happy either way. I understand that some prefer physical, and vice versa some prefer digital. I’m not speaking for anyone but myself :)

          • Zackasaur

            That would be fine, but you want to watch how you say things. Statements like “damned humans always wanting more lol” can sound like an undue attack on what ~other~ people want, and then people like James Reilly here get upset when they feel their values and preferences being undermined.

            That’s all I have to say. As for your own preferences, those are totally fine. c:

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

              No no, that’s not how I intended it to come across at all. I rarely make serious statements, I’m still fairly new around here so I guess people don’t really know that about me.

              But if paying close attention, one can surmise that I said it jokingly. I usually only use “!” at the end of non-serious/joking comments anyway.

              • Zackasaur

                I understand. c:

                My suggestion is just to think carefully about how others might read what you say. I have had to do the very same, so I totally get that.

                • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

                  My issue from not joining a new community in a long time is that I still think automatically know my derpy ways lol

                  I do try to keep it in mind as much as I can.

      • James Reilly

        Yes because we all have the same low standards as you.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

          That’s uncalled for.

          • James Reilly

            What is uncalled for is demanding we should all be grateful for the bare minimum. That is not how the role of the consumer works.

            • Chogokin

              You sound pretty entitled, maybe you don’t understand the role a company? Companies try to make money, if they don’t see profit to be made in making a game physical they won’t do it. Them localizing an entire game isn’t providing bare minimum service, it just isn’t the complete service that you feel entitled to.

              • James Reilly

                I fully understand the role of the company. I see how many of them handle these kind of scenarios. Bamco seems to be the odd duck out regarding this situation. It’s not so much entitled as in expecting a certain already established standard similar to the GR PS4 port physical begging here back when it was announced digital only

              • Renaldi Saputra

                it depends on what they’re prioritizing. Big companies sure have different objectives than small companies. Those like XSEED are focusing on Customer Relationship and Value Proposition, that’s why they’re always try the best like giving physical Vita to satisfy some dedicated audiences, without thinking too much on how much profits they will get.

                Meanwhile, those like Bamco are the opposite, since ppl had already known about who Bamco is, what’s their product, blablabla. They’re trying so much to be safe-playing. If some things are still uncertain with no reliable physical datas, then they will cut the budget and do alternatives, and so on.

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

              You’ve not read between the lines. I never once said “we should all be grateful for the bare minimum”.

              What I meant by that is we should be grateful that they listened to us and the petition.

              • Zackasaur

                That’s the thing. A large group of people feel like Bandai Namco haven’t fully listened to them. Thus, they don’t really owe their gratitude to a corporate monolith.

          • Luna Kazemaru

            some people just don’t grow up ;3

    • UMR-10

      Seems to me like Namco is aware that this is a very niche game and they are expecting that the PS4 to do far better than the Vita version.

      I have been actually pretty happy with Namco, they are releasing several stuff on PC.

    • http://myanimelist.net/profile/chibuki chibuki

      The thing is, the Vita makes it hard to change accounts in the event that you want certain DLCs. Asian version game is usually only comptible with Asian PSN account, and it’s not worth wiping out your Vita contents just to switch back and forth between accounts.

      • Zackasaur

        Well, it would be worth it to me if I were going to play this on Vita. The one thing definitively not worth it to me is a digital license rental.

        And that’s fine. We won’t all have the same wants, needs, and values. What is important is that the publisher cater to all of them.

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

      Speaking from a financial point of view I’d assume that they want to be careful, and not just jump in right off the bat.

      While some might want the physical Vita version, Bamco most likely wants to make sure it’s worth their investment in localizing the game. It’s a shame that they don’t have more faith in the western fans tbh.

      • Zackasaur

        There are other, better ways to be careful, as demonstrated by more fan-conscious publishers. People would be understanding of something like a Limited Edition-only physical release, or a retailer exclusive deal. Those are methods of testing the water which are both supremely safe and more respectful toward fans and consumers.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

          But, look at the last game they brought over. I can’t remember what it was, but I think someone on here said it bombed?

          Then there is All-Star rumble…let’s not go there.

          While they should probably release the Vita version physically, I can understand and respect why they are not. This is my opinion, I’m speaking for no one else.

          • Zackasaur

            You’d have to cite that game for me to address it.

            As for Rumble Arena, they created that without their being any specific demonstration of demand. Consumers don’t owe them money every time they make something. :P

            I understand your opinion, and while I do understand their mistaken logic in this instance, I do not respect it.

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

              I’ve no clue what game it was, I just vaguely remember it being mentioned some time ago.

              I respect that they made a choice, but not what that choice is. So in that we’re in agreement somewhat lol

              • Zackasaur

                Very good. c:

                • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

                  First proper time talking to you, and I have to say I enjoyed it man :)

          • JuVu

            Comparing that game and Cyber Sleuth seems really unfair. The first one is a mediocre fighting fare riding on its licensed characters, the other is a full-fledged RPG made by Media Vision (arguably, too, riding on its license).

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

              I’m not comparing the games at all, I was talking about releases and sales.

          • Daniel Rossevelt

            That game would be Digimon World Championships, it was really fun, but yeah sold terribly iirc.

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

              Ah-ha! That’s the chap. I didn’t play it but I remember someone (maybe on the OF?) saying how it sold really badly.

              • Renaldi Saputra

                it also sold quite bad in Japan though. And u know throughout 2009-2013 there were no digimon-related things anymore in west so that’s why the games weren’t localized. Savers had ended on 2008 on west

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

          There are always other ways to go about things imo, but whatever way any company chooses to deal with something there will be people agree and some who disagree..

          I’ve never been interested in that part of the industry, so trying to get involved with a conversation about it is somewhat hypocritical of me. But having said that I still understand peoples wants and expectations.

          • Zackasaur

            If someone disagreed with Bandai Namco doing a full physical/digital release, that person would be scum for actively wanting to hurt others.

            All anyone here wants is the right to buy the game as they see fit. And nobody should feel assaulted for having such a basic and essential desire.

            If someone criticised you for wanting a game to not be physical-only, I would have a problem with that. The funny thing is that I have never seen such a thing happen, despite some games last gen being physical-only to the chagrin of digital renters. Those people were equally free to criticise a failure in the industry.

          • Elvick

            If they complained about Bamco doing a limited release at retail, in whatever fashion, then they’d have no valid complaint to be making.

            Irrational complaints serve no purpose in these discussions. What purpose is there to complain about a limited retail release? None. You get to buy the game digitally if you want it that way people that do want retail don’t have to go through the additional costs of importing.

            It’s a win/win in every conceivable way for everyone. Anyone that believes otherwise has no argument. They just want someone to not have something, because they wouldn’t want it. Which, if I haven’t made that clear, is not a valid argument.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        they might be kind, willingly localizing so many games lately to west, but their treatment? still doubtful, just like this one. So, yeah, just prepare some controversies later on series like God Eater

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

          There’s always a better way to handle things, for a company as big as Bamco I think people expected better. Like @Zackasaur said (I think)

          • Renaldi Saputra

            they’d hope so, but the reality for their track record in recent time, I guess no. Maybe it’s already a yes for proven series like Tales of, SAO, major Shounen Jump games. But for not-yet proven series like this, GE, Gundam, well, like I said…

      • Phelan

        “Speaking from a financial point of view I’d assume that they want to be careful”

        That’s why Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment on Vita sold better in Asia than in NA or EU. They wanted to play safe, despite the fact that it was perfectly clear that there was demand for the game.

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

    It’s most worth my time to keep my eyes on the Digi-Feed regarding Digimon news!

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/2da51258678c40a11dad2452e22da9b9/tumblr_ml9of9LPJm1rxl3nco1_500.gif

    • persona_yuji

      Be careful with those glasses!

      • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

        X-Ray specs…

        ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • Vfanatic

    Just show me a damn comparison between the load times on PS4 vs Vita version. I’m going to be playing this game at home either on PS4 or Vita TV so screen size and to some degree resolution does not matter. I just wanna know if the PS4 version runs faster. Also everyone buy the game so we can get a Cyber Sleuth 2 with more digimans.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      the loading issues had been fixed for the western version from the JP one, the producer said. So I think it’s just about the FPS

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

      If you look at the difference in loading times between Lost Song on Vita and PS4, that should give you some idea.

      • Vfanatic

        Those are two different games made by two different developers though. They only share the same publisher.

  • KiddyCorky

    Well shit. Now it’s choosing between physical or extra digimans if I buy the digital version. What do, what do…

  • Cyberjin

    Hey european gamers
    if some of you interested in buying the physical version, maybe we can requested it to RiceDigital. I know it’s long shot, but they are selling the Asian version of DoA Xtreme, so if there is enough people that wants it, maybe they will sell it.

    • JuVu

      I already sent an inquiry about this to them. Here’s hoping they manage to get some copies for sale.

    • Phelan

      If you are european gamer I recommend you also checking videogameplus shop.

      Don’t get me wrong, I like RiceDigital for what they did with Steins;Gate. But somehow for me it’s cheaper to import it from Canada… and shipping fee is more or less the same.

    • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

      European gamers should buy the digital version so bamco can decide if enough people freaking care about digimon for them to invest in physical copies for next order!

      • Cyberjin

        it only shows that people okay with buying digital games, if I’ve wanted the digital version, I would wait until it got a good price drop anyway.

        if I import the Asian copy, it will just show them that there is a higher demand for physical games and also increases the chances for next games to come.

        • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

          They won’t get the sales statistics and say” Hey xx,xxx western gamers bought the asian version of cyber sleuth!” They can’t tell. They’ll see that as asian gamers buying digimon,

          • Cyberjin

            that’s fine by me, then I’ll just import the next games as well.

            • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

              Yeah but how much digimon fans are willing to do that, Or are willing to play the japanese versions with a guide to understand or learn japanese?

              • Cyberjin

                I’m not buying the japanese version, I’m buying the Asia version that usually comes with english subs

  • Uvers

    I dunno if i could commit to buying the Asia english ver when I already own the Japanese ver of the game, there’s also the question will the translation be legit

    • James Reilly

      It was already confirmed awhile back it will be the same as the West version.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      unfortunately the digimon name’s translation for the game is kinda derpy when seeing the live streams (from west ver). Oh c’mon, why the heck they translate グランロコモン into GroundLocomon?

  • Yaro

    Based SCEJA and Asian market.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      JA? Japan? no it’s SEA

      • Yaro

        I thought its Sony Computer Entertainment Japan Asia.

        • Joey

          You’re right :)

        • Renaldi Saputra

          well but Japan is R2 and SEA is R3

          • ohlala lala

            Its not SCEJA. Playstation Asia a.k.a SCEH (Hong Kong) and only covers Sea Territories.

            • ohlala lala

              and add China recently.

          • Mk333

            No, Europe is R2

            • Renaldi Saputra

              Japan is also R2

              • Mk333

                That is practically abandoned right now. It was the legacy of DVD region era. Right now many games and DLCs from Japan R2 store are compatible with Asian R3 store (Both are NTSC-J) but not with European R2 store. If you bought the same games from Japan and Asia store, look at the information section, they might stamp two account names there as buyer (one Asia one Japanese). I have PS3 Lara Croft game and Magical Beat that does this.

      • Mk333

        SEA is also managed by SCEJA

  • Daniel Rossevelt

    Huh, well for now I’ll stick with a digital copy in my region, to show bamco there are fans here. Later down the road though I might double dip so I can have that sexy case in my display.

    • Sunny11

      Finally someone gets it

      • Dont-leave-us-Atlus

        What if im still getting the ps4 version and hoping to get the vita physical now still bad? At least im letting them know I want digimon gamesbut even at 49.99 its still cheaper than getting it digitally over here along with the accompanying memory card id have to buy since im not really against digital I just prefer physical when available

        • Sunny11

          Do what you want but I’m just saying don’t be mad at Bamco later when they don’t localise games anymore for Vita or maybe just not bring it to Vita but will put on PS4 only

          • Dont-leave-us-Atlus

            Im planning on getting the other vita game theyre localizing too that ones only digital I forget what its translated title was but if digimon goes on sale digital I might even get that version hoping theres a sale on vita memory cards though I want a 64 G at least

        • Daniel Rossevelt

          Eh, well you still bought a ps4 copy from your home country so you showed some support. so it’s not as bad as just importing like some people are.

          however I’d be concerned about weather the Asia version is completely compatable, for example assuming you have a U.S. Or European psn account on your vita you wouldn’t be able to get dlcs, and I’m unsure if you’d be able to use cross save.

          You’d need to create another account ad have a second memory card to get the dlcs, and you’d have to like reformat your vita every time you’d switch accounts.

          • Dont-leave-us-Atlus

            I dont think the dlc should be a big deal for me and if it is maybe ill wait for the digital version to go on sale but ill also have the ps4 verison and i believe thats getting the dlc too because i definitely aint going through the process you described

    • Jelly King

      Yeah I’m definitely going to stick with the digital copy to show support too. If people want more games coming over here, we need to show the companies that we really want them here.

  • Sunny11

    So now Vita owners in West won’t buy the localised version for Vita it looks like.

    This will show Bandai Namco that there is no demand for Digimon in the West for Vita.

    • Manny Being Manny

      As Vita phases out in the West and Asia grows into a bigger market, these kinds of releases are going to be more common. Its better to support the Asian releases to make sure they keep on adding English instead of holding onto some misguided hope that the Vita will survive here more then another year.

      • sadnovurdim

        what-what misguided hope, my tiny silly usual hater?

        • Manny Being Manny

          You really think Vita is going to somehow bounce back at this point? Its just barely hanging on, and as PC and PS4 becomes more relevant to publishers they’ll just release the Vita games on those platforms in the West instead, leaving the Asian market as the last bastion of Vita physical releases.

          • sadnovurdim

            It’ll easily “hang on” for another 3-4 years, while your senseless bashing is not even funny anymore, to be honest. I think I’m like fifth person to call you a pathetic jerk that’s just cirling around every vita-news to be an idiot, but I’ll just repeat it then. Buying in your own region is important either way, they can easily make the next digi-game a proper release with a decent number and your logic is hanging as if only to try and prove a point of a pathetic jerk.

            • Manny Being Manny

              So what, you think everybody should just be super positive about a system nearly every retail store has already dropped, and think its somehow just gonna be fine? And if people aren’t super optimistic, that just makes them “pathetic jerks” for stating the reality of the situation? I mean I guess its nice to live in a fantasy world where the Vita is strong because it gets a bunch of games nobody outside of a tiny audience is interested in, but the reality is that the system is on life support and companies are looking for an opportunity to jump ship to get better sales elsewhere.

              • sadnovurdim

                No, I think that your senseless bashing is getting old and everyone is fed up with it and you. You are not really analyzing things, simply attacking the platform for no apparent reason while constantly licking over ps4. It’s rather disturbing.

      • Obelisk

        We have been getting more Vita games in 2015 than ever. Calm down.

        • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

          Yeah but japanese games. There is very little western support for vita aside from indie games like bastion, fez etc

      • ayanami-chan

        You wanna try that one again?

    • Daniel Rossevelt

      Yup, it seems very backwards to what the goal was. I hate digital more then the most people but, I’m willing to buy this to support it in the west. Buying it from another country will not show bamco there are western Digimon fans. I’m really surprised at people here…

    • Zackasaur

      Actually, no. Bandai Namco can see import rates and will be aware of the physical localisation demand in the west. c: A lot of people don’t know that, but that’s part of the information publishers can and do track.

      Importing the physical copy would be a great move for fans of the series who want to send a clear message to Bandai Namco.

      • Sunny11

        Import rates? Where did you get that from and also no I don’t think so all they’ll see is lots of sales from Asia

        • Zackasaur

          It’s data I’ve used while working in the industry. It’s not available publicly, unfortunately, because it is only available due to private retailer-publisher-manufacturer-distributor relationships.

          Game publishers not only keep detailed track of how many copies get sent to which retailers, but they also communicate with those retailers to get data on sell-through, including more micro-data ABOUT that sell-through (including the sell prices, sales trends over time, deal-related sales spikes, attach rate for things like season passes, etc.). When it comes to retailers like Play-Asia who deal with imports, publishers keep track of those numbers to judge the impacts of imports on the market.

          Why do you think some game companies (like Nintendo today) ever region-locked their hardware? They were aware of import tendencies and misjudged it as a threat to price controls.

          When people import, that sales data isn’t lost into a vacuum. It is as carefully tracked as the rest of the data.

          • DizzyGear

            Cant these companies also track this to some degree with a consoles online features because games across regions often use an unique identifier (like PCSE00208 for DJ Max)?
            For example if i sync my trophy’s for an Japanese version of a game with a American account they should be able to pick up on that.

            • Zackasaur

              Yes, unique identifiers can also be used for supplementary data, and they definitely are. c:

              There are a few reasons why that can’t be used exclusively, though. One is the surprisingly large number of gamers who still play completely offline, and another is that resold and borrowed copies can then appear multiple times in the database.

              One usefulness for comparing unique identifier data with retailers sales data is to get some sense of how many people are playing a particular game second-hand (either via borrowing or used sales). Even then, it’s good to do a cross-check for different PSN accounts coming from the same household.

          • Joey

            I never knew you worked in the games industry.

            I understand that NDA prevents you from saying too much, but how does this work? Do publsihers like Bamco basically chronicle every copy of every game they distribute, like a literal database? And does this really affect business decisions to give games a digital vs physical release across regions?

            And I will agree Nintendo’s region locking is very anti-consumer, and is particualrly bad for those that want the Japanese or NA physical exclusives. I imported a NA New 3DS XL last year from the US. Would that detail also be used for analysis in the same way as games?

            You could also argue that by keeping the region lock in place, it can lead to more sales of region locked hardware like the 3DS, as the hardcore will buy 3DSes from multiple regions to get over the region locks. Therefore Nintendo and other companies can use that as an argument to keep the region lock in place.

            • Zackasaur

              No problem! I can help by addressing the generalities without workplace specifics. I’ll answer your questions in a list to keep everything straight:

              -Publishers keep both physical and digital catalogues, including game files used in making the games. This is much more rigorous today than it used to be, in part because it has become easier to do, and in part because the industry now gains value from things like reusing assets and remastering.

              -The desire to catalogue does not affect release decisions. Those decisions are based around profit maximisation, efficient use of resources, marketing research, internal willpower, etc. Cataloguing is always a byproduct.

              -Yes, there are efforts made by hardware manufacturers to track the import rates and regional distributions of their hardware. This is done via retailer and shipment tracking, hardware region coding, online IP checks, and cross-analysis with physical and digital game sales.

              -Whether or not region locks increase or decreasw hardware sales at all is a very difficult argument, even with internal data. While it is clear that some consumers buy hardware for multiple regions, some also get turned off from buying at all. My own inclination is to say that there is more harm than benefit, since it creates major harm in smaller markets, especially in second- and third-world territories which largely depend on imports (which can sometimes include stolen shipments, actually). What IS clear, and this important, is that the idea of buying multiple region-locked iterations of the same hardware is an extremely peripheral behaviour. Only a small fragment of a niche within the core gamer demographic would bother. Overlapping factors for this include desire, cost, difficulty, principle, know-how, physical space consumption, and sheer value proposition. We also live in a market with increased localisation.

              • Joey

                Thanks for the response! :) Sounds like there’s quite a lot going on behind the scenes – so basically this is what Bamco may be doing with Digimon Story and should they notice that import sales to the West are high then that may encourage more physical releases of future Digimon games?

                Looks like NoA know I imported my NA 3DS XL then. I guess I’m in that niche. Further down the line I aim to buy a Japanese 3DS so I have a trio of 3DSes. I do agree with the parts about importing – I’ve seen many Middle Eastern and to a lesser extent African gamers having to import theri games bcause it simply isn’t feasible to distribute games there by larger publishers – having a region lock would limit their options on where they can get games from.

  • binebina

    So I guess the Vita Version requires the latest Firmware and also does anyone know if this game will release in HongKong in English (because HK didnt get the English Version of SAO Lost Song (so theres no DLC for it on PSN only for the Chinese Ver.))
    So update the Vita and maybe dont get DLC in HK or play it on the PS4…oh the dilemma -.-

    • Renaldi Saputra

      the HK only does chinese sub, this english ver is for SEA

  • Cerberus Batista

    Wooow it’s time to start punching namco’s staff DDD:<

  • http://obistrips.tumblr.com/ Visces

    What bonuses are people who get the Asia English version going to miss out on if they don’t have access to the DLC? Can they not get 100% completion on the game?

    • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

      he vita version can download the dlc within frebruary without pre order,

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

      As well as the Vita themes:

  • Fooey

    Lol I don’t have faith in Bamco with localizations anymore. First, SAO HF’s translation, then Hearts R’s script, now no digital Vita copy for Digimon. They honestly make some baffling decisions. They also decided to localize the worst Gundam game (according to Amazon reviews)? Expect them to lose lots of consumer confidence if they keep this up when it comes to reveal the details of how they’re gonna handle God Eater. Even though I do prefer dubs, lots of people are already pissed about it not having the original voices

    • Joey

      Amazon JP reviewers are notorius for being stricter than other sites. It’s always best to get second opinions with regards to that.

      • ayanami-chan

        This is true

      • Fooey

        True but I also heard there were legit complaints like no free mode and less Gundam selection.

      • Z3

        I have the game and honestly I feel buyers remorse right now.
        >No free battle
        >No arcade mode
        >Smaller cast than GvGN+ on the PSP(I would’ve been okay with the smaller cast if the grunts like Byarlant or Jagd Doga were playable)
        >Looks like a psp game
        >Movesets are gimped because no burst system which means Zeta doesn’t ever get biosensor

  • MisterS

    i will get the digital version, so i can show bamco there is a market for vita owners in the west and next 0rder gets physically localized.

    • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

      What you said makes more sense than complaining about not having the physical version. If people want them to localise physical compies we have to prove to Bamco that we want their games, not by begging, but by buying.

      • MisterS

        Exactly^^

    • Sunny11

      You might aswell get it physical bro

      • MisterS

        How?

        • Sunny11

          By importing from play asia

  • Joey

    For those that have access to importing and want the physical copy this is excellent news. However for those that aren’t able to, it is another salt in the wound that Bamco has left by not planning a physical version in Western territories like they should have done. I am pretty sure that this Asian English version has only appeared due to fan demand, and for that Vita gamers should make the most of.

    I will be importing this day one now.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      maybe not fan demands, just Vita base users are big in Asia especially SEA, several games like SAO HF gets physical, also Gundam and DOAX3

      • Joey

        Yeah, but even though the Vita base is bigger in Asia, that hasn’t stopped smaller companies like Atlus, NIS America and Idea Factory releasing physical Vita games in both NA and EU.

        English Asian Vita copies are a compromise – put it in a low risk market however put it up on import sites so Westerners can import them. Therefore there will be a higher demand for the English Asian games whereas if they were given a physical release in the West as it should have been, the demand for this would fall for the benefit of the localised versions. This is appeasing the fans to an extent as a physical copy of the game now exists in the second most relevant language in gaming in the world – English.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          u know ATLUS NISA IF XSEED, several companies like that rarely focus so much on how much profit they will make, by seeing bigger base users etc, but they focus on Customer Relationship and Value Proposition, it’s what differs them from bigger companies like Bamco SEGA, etc.

      • Mk333

        I think the internet speed is also at play. Not anyone in SEA have a decent internet speed to download the game over PSN. Hence physical version helps.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          Ah yeah you got a point there. Yeah internet here sucks with high price

  • Glittering Crux

    I would pay $49.99 if it was being sold in NA, but I just cannot justify paying $49.99 + import-shipping-costs for this game. If Bamco takes this as a message that they shouldn’t localize these games, whatever.

    Hopefully the upcoming God Eater games get physical localizations.

  • new_tradition

    Going by some quickie conversion rates for Canadian dollars, buying the physical version off play-asia is still gonna cost about an extra 40 dollars minimum including shipping rather than just buying the game digitally at the assumed 40 dollar PSN price.

    I want physical, but I can’t spend that much extra. Being a consumer gamer is so frustrating :X

  • V-Angelus

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

  • Elvick

    This would make cross-save a moot point, wouldn’t it? Unless you import the PS4 version too.

    I’d rather Bamco worldwide do something for everyone. Importing is expensive.

  • bdp

    On one hand physical editions are nice, on the other hand the extra cost and waiting time for shipping would be a pain.

  • ayanami-chan

    Oh… in Asia… oh… 50$… I mean it’s better than nothing

    • Mk333

      I don’t live in the West so I don’t know the situation there, but I think there should be legit stores that sells import games in your place. Most game stores here in Asia sell US/EU region games (physical) and they are not labeled as imported games.

      • http://cork13.wordpress.com 白小狼(Mark Bryan)

        “I don’t know the situation there” Then don’t comment on it. I live in Chicago (The third biggest city in the US) and we don’t have very many import game stores. I can’t imagine people in smaller cities would be any luckier.

        • Mk333

          Dude this was a month ago and most ppl here comment about the advantageous situation here in Asia (we got physical Vita release), if they can comment on our situation why we can’t do the opposite. We just try to comprehend the situation in the west and gives suggestion based on our local experiences, who knows if some of them are applicable. In my experience game regions *has no effect at all*. Go buy FF13 to any game stores and the store will simply ask you in Jap dub (Asian release) or English dub (NA/EU release). And they are not even labeled as import. I just simply thought you can go to stores in the US, asking for a game and they will simply ask you whether you want it in digital codes or physical Vita release (which automatically gives you Asian version without you knowing)

  • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

    If you guys were smart you’d by the digital localized versions to prove to bamco that there is a large enough market for digimon in the west so we might get next order physical.

    • Glittering Crux

      All that does is tell them people will put up with digital-only releases.

      • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

        Ok with your logic we will have no release. no digital no physical, nothing.

        • Glittering Crux

          If there’s no physical edition, it might as well not exist.

    • Zackasaur

      Because buying things we don’t want in order to miscommunicate our message to an infamously obtuse publisher is smart. >_>

      • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

        It’s the same game, just in digital form. Stop being childish. Don’t be that kid in the toy store having a tantrum because your mom won’t buy you something.

        • Zackasaur

          Your childish accusation against someone of vastly superior maturity and your laughably inadequate analogy are both very telling.

          • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

            Well w’ell just have to get no digimon at all then digital or physical. I’m not being complacent. The 4 minutes it takes to backup a game to make space to download cyber sleuth won’t kill you. A “mature” person would understand that.

            • Zackasaur

              If you’re willing to talk instead of insult, I’m happy to have this conversation. I think it’s an important one. c: The things I have to say will result in a bit of a lengthy post, though, so please be aware of that. I will still offer the condensed version of what could be a much longer post, though.

              I would definitely call that complacency. Your argument is a “lesser evil” juxtaposition, which is always a relatively complacent position to take. That said, the argument doesn’t really hold water, anyway. There are far smaller and far more financially vulnerable publishers and IPs which are released physically to success. This digital-only issue is typically seen in mid-to-large scale publishers who are publishing something seen as comparatively niche and just don’t have enough faith in the product to invest physically. Yes, they know they will make more money that way–but they see those extra profits as too peripheral to bother. Whereas, smaller publishers have a greater tendency to focus very sharply on appealing to their fans and dedicate more conscious thought to such projects. That’s the one and only reason for the digital-only issues we have seen. It has nothing to do with being unable to sell–we wouldn’t get a localisation at all if that were the case. It’s actually complacency on the part of the publisher. That complacency is certainly offensive to a fan like me, but it’s also offensive to the developers of the game.

              So, we certainly know that there are plenty of ways for Bandai Namco to release every game they publish physically on all platforms in all regions (even including cautious options like online-only ordering, a Kickstarter-style pre-order campaign, retailer exclusives, Limited Edition exclusives, etc.). Both smaller and bigger publishers do this in a variety of ways that we can observe time and time again. And, indeed, if Cyber Sleuth does well enough that the obtuse executives lower their noses enough to realise that someone in the company authorised Digimon localisation in the first place, we will see Next Order released physically on both PS4 and Vita, much like what happened with SAO. And then, as with SAO, the original group who complained will both be proven right and get what they want the second time around.

              Simply put, like IPs as varied as SAO, Tales, Shovel Knight, Hell Divers, Hatsune Miku Project Diva, Gravity Rush, Tearaway, Steins;gate, Danganronpa, Senran Kagura, Mighty No. 9, Digimon is worth a shot at market success in which all fans can happily participate without being called upon to toss aside their principles.

              Now that those facts are in order, I think you might not fully understand why people care about physical access rights, given the reductionist statement you made here: “The 4 minutes it takes to backup a game to make space to download…”

              Here is an incomplete list of reasons why this matters to people:
              1. Many collect their games and put value in building their game shelves.
              2. Many people have very slow internet, with some having none at all. On top of that, most internet users have to watch for data caps, some of which are very low.
              3. Storage management is very annoying, especially when it has to be done very time a new game releases.
              4. On top of being annoying, storage management can become expensive–especially in the case of the Vita.
              5. A lot of the more civil rights, consumer rights, and legal-oriented minds out there, a very distressing trend has become clear. While physical ownership of media offers a lot of expansive rights and protections, there is no ownership of purchased digital licenses. Those are legally mere rentals which can be taken away at any time without any given cause or compensation. This is one of the primary reasons why a lot of large corporations have wanted to push digital media: It is an assault on the rights of their customers in favour of their own control.
              6. There are some who believe in the spirit of market and price competition. For them, the sort of monopolisation demonstrated in digital sales is deeply harmful. While I’m extremely far from a market die-hard, I do have to say that I get better prices on my games physically by looking at all of my options than I could ever get if I were limited to digital-only… And that’s in an environment where we are lucky to still see digital semi-competing with retail. Imagine one where it didn’t compete at all.
              7. Many of us also believe in the value of choice. Giving people more choices in buying their games is seen as a positive in and of itself.
              8. If you see any value in the preservation of games across generations and for history, then you simply have to believe in the importance of physical availability of games.
              9. In the case where you just really care about the IP, it is important for that IPs success that it gains the wider audience and market exposure provided only by retail.
              10. Wider physical availability of games increases access to those games in underserved nations/markets.

              Additionally, I want to state something important:
              People calling for physical releases for the above reasons and others are not at all assaulting anyone else’s right to want a digital license rental instead. We’re simply calling for the right to make a choice out of personal reasons, love for the industry, love for the developers, and love for the IP. No one who prefers or even simply tolerates digital-only should ever be going after others for having their own preferences. That’s simply a mean-spirited position to take. The same would be true in reverse, though I’ve interestingly never seen that happen before. It probably has happened somewhere out there, though. Gamers should have some sense of solidarity and class consciousness, instead of being poised at each other’s throats and beholden to the thrown bones of involved corporations. Part of this means that the moral high ground belongs to all of us as we seek to better the industry, not to those who want to restrict and squeeze it.

              • http://roleplayingblog.blogspot.com El Chromah

                I understand. I see very niche games including visual novels get additional limited edition physical releases to get more profit per unit sold as the market is smaller, so digimon which has a larger market than those can easier sell physical copies. I’m just so thirsty for a good digimon game that i’ll buy it digital or physical regardless.

                • Zackasaur

                  I’m glad to hear it, and I’m sorry for the snippier tone at the start of our conversation. c:

                  That extra profit can sometimes come from units sold when there are things like limited editions available–you’re totally right. But a lot of it also comes from the increased volume sold. Retail availability always increases net sales not only because of people like me who will only buy that way, but even more importantly because it increases the market exposure to so many more casual gamers and friends/relatives of those gamers who see games on store shelves and learn about them there. With a fairly child-friendly IP like Digimon, that effect can be especially significant. In short, while niche games like visual novels have a great reason to have limited physical releases, the argument for Digimon is even stronger thanks to sheer scale.

                  I’m also thirsty for a good Digimon game, but as you can tell, this is an issue I take pretty seriously. With so many good games out there to play, I don’t have enough time as it is. I can easily skip the ones that are digital-only, even if it’s regrettable. That allows me to stick to my principles on the matter, while always having plenty to play.

                  In this case, though… Well, I have a PS4! So I can get a physical copy there. I feel for my Vita-owning friends who don’t have one, as well as for people who would just prefer that option. I honestly might have bought it for Vita instead, or even double-dipped, if they were both physical.

                  I hope that this game does well and that Digimon has a great future in the west! I also hope that part of that great future involves making sure that as many fans as reasonably possible can play the way they want to play.

        • DizzyGear

          Actually digital Vita games load slower than their cartridge counterparts…

          • Renaldi Saputra

            really? Gennei Ibunroku #FE told the vice versa

  • cyberkinghardy

    Dumb shit people logic:
    “If we buy digital version, Bamco might change their mind to release the next digimon game in physical version”

    Reality in Bamco:
    “Ohh we have more sales than usual in digital. I guess they won’t mind if we release the next game in digital also.”

    • I am gundam

      that so Bamco lmao

    • Quad Vesper

      why digimon franchise from bandai…dammit

    • Renaldi Saputra

      but SAO LS

    • Joey

      Exactly! That’s why I’m not supporting the localised version.

  • DizzyGear

    This is some grade A bullshit on Bamco’s part.
    I’m actually torn if i should pre-order this version. I’m more than willing to pay extra for a psysical version but this seriously feels like a middlefinger to the EU/NA Vita owners who asked for a psysical version.

    • Zackasaur

      You are completely right about that.

      If you’re able/willing to pay for it, though, I think the import is a good call. Not only can you support the section of Bandai Namco that were willing to truly support both you and Digimon, but the overall company can see those import numbers and realise that a mistake was made in the west.

      You can make the message clearer by letting them know your discontentment on social media, too. That’s always important!

      • DizzyGear

        I dont have Twitter/Facebook/whatever except for a League of Gamers account but i doubt Bamco even pays attention to that.

        But yeah i’ll probably end up importing it because i like collecting Vita games. Sucks missing out of the DLC though.

        • Zackasaur

          I would personally recommend making some social network accounts, even if just to follow some game stuff and let your voice be heard when these things happen. You can even use false information on the accounts so that they don’t interfere with your private life, if that’s a concern to you. It’s all up to you and your comforts, of course. But companies today use popular social networks as their second most reliable source, the first being sales information.

          Emails and even classical letters are also ways to reach out to people, though. I definitely believe in exhausting every available option for making contact.

      • Fooey

        Does the Asian PSN have this Black Agumon DLC stuff too? I just might make a PSN account for that…how hard can it be?

        • DizzyGear

          Making the account is not hard. Its switching accounts on a Vita is that is a massive pain in the ass.

          • Fooey

            How does it work?

            • DizzyGear

              Factory resetting your Vita and formatting the memory card unless you have a second one.
              You can find tutorials on google for the whole process.

        • Zackasaur

          I believe it does, but you will need a regional account for that.

          The only major pain is that your Vita can only connect to one account at a time and would need to be reformatted temporarily.

    • Mk333

      Is there no game stores that stock import games in NA/EU? I thought game stores stock import games or may even helps you pre-ordering it. It’s the norm for game stores in Asia to stock NA/EU region games.

      • DizzyGear

        The only one i’m aware of is VG+ that sometimes stock the more popular import games like Asia SAO and EU Steins;Gate. The problem is that when they do they charge such a high price for them that you might as well order wtih Play-Asia.

        • Mk333

          I see. Darn man, that’s a sad thing to hear. Idk what’s wrong with Bamco’s brain lately. Just fyi even this English version is a sad announcement really even for Asian. The Chinese version was already out in November. And it hurts seeing that, despite living in the same region, our Chinese-speaking friend probably played, finished and platinumed the game already…. This is not only for CyberSleuth, but also for any other “localised-too-late” games.

          • DizzyGear

            I know what you mean. I kinda feel like that ‘localised too late’ about the God Eater announcements.
            GE2 has been out for ages in Japan and only now we are getting it. Not only that but announced together with the remaster of GE1 as well.

            Seeing how much of a time sinks these hunting games are i really dont feel it was a good idea to announce both the English versions of GE1&2 at once.

            • Mk333

              For me it’s a Japan-made game so I don’t mind if Japanese play it first, they have the right for it. You know Bamco just recently started to cater the SEA region more seriously. In the past they made a blunder by announcing GE localisation in Asia. The announcement and the trailer were in English, only to promote the Chinese version. Now they use the appopriate language to promote their games. In case you haven’t know it yet, GE2:RB was out in Chinese in Feb, and Resurrection was out in December.

              The difference between Chinese version and English is, so far, Chinese don’t do Chinese dub, and no ESRB rating. I dunno about censorship, but I think there are no censorship as well. imo the Asian English release should just do the same, once the translation text is done they can just release it for Asian region, there’s no need to record the dub or waiting for the ESRB rating (ESRB doesn’t apply here anyway) so they can release it as early as the Chinese version.

              It seems Bamco forget (or just turn a blind eye) that Chinese is also widely spoken in SEA (Singapore & Malaysia), and people who speak Chinese are also fluent in English, they have to release Chinese and English simultaneously to prevent spoilers. It’s not funny if you just started playing your game and then a friend of you who understand Chinese said that, “Hey! I played this a long time ago, its blah-blah-blah. You just play this now?”

  • Jack

    I will always prefer buying physical versions of games so this is good news in case I want to double dip later on. But seeing as I have a PS4 as well, I’ll just be sticking with the physical PS4 copy for now. Thats why Digimon being digital on the Vita never really bothered me.

    • Cyberjin

      well if you want to double dip, you should watch the price carefully because it probably has limited prints.

      • Zackasaur

        Yeah, I made that mistake with Oreshika 2 and will probably never play it, now.

        Not a big loss, though… I’m always reminded that there are at least twice as many games that I want as there are that I have time to play.

        • I am gundam

          oreshika 2 was one of my favore rpg on vita i like the art and the gameplaay looks like persona 2

          • Zackasaur

            Yeah, I always thought it looked cool! The art is very neat. c:

            I’ll keep looking at deals on the import, but it has generally gone up, not down. :/

            • I am gundam

              yeah i saw one in play asia thy didnt sell it anymore ;( i already bought one when i visit philippines tho

              • Zackasaur

                You wouldn’t happen to be going back, would you? XD

                • I am gundam

                  im still here xD but the copies are sold out in my local mall

                  • Zackasaur

                    Tell them to get more. D:

            • DizzyGear

              You can always try the demo. Which i recomend because its not a game for everyone. From what i heard the Asian version is region coded EU as well so you could import your progress if your on an EU account.
              Kinda bummed i missed out the import as well but i sank so many hours the NA digital version i cant justify buying the game to just sit on my shelf. lol

              • Zackasaur

                I’m afraid that I’m on a NA account, but that’s okay. c:

                Thanks for reminding me about the demo. I should give it a spin!

              • Renaldi Saputra

                no, Asia is Asia, is coded R3

                • DizzyGear

                  False. Asian games are not always coded Asia. Publishers sometimes get lazy and just dump the NA or EU coded version on a cart/PSN.

                  • Renaldi Saputra

                    I rarely see it tbh, what I mostly see is a japanese-only game on Asia PSN. So it’s named Japan R3, instead of R2

                    • Mk333

                      Some games on Asia also share the same region code with JP PSN. I downloaded a DLC for DOA5:LR from JP PSN and voila, it’s compatible with my Asian one.

        • Cyberjin

          that’s funny, I missed my chance as well.
          I did buy the digital version because of a PSN sales

  • I am gundam

    thanks ur not so bad after all bamco

  • donkey3

    I don’t mind if it’ll be physical or not. But damn, I’m running out of space on my Vita. And I won’t drop another $50~$60 to buy those over priced memory cards just for this game.

    I guess I’ll get the PS4 version then.

    • I am gundam

      i think 8gbs are cheaper now u should buy it just for digimon

      • donkey3

        Nah. I prefer to have my digital library all in a single card.

  • Crimrui

    I’m getting a PS4 physical copy. Really looking forward to this game. ˇˇ

    • vashe9

      Same ! I just hope the performance will be better than SAO HF !

  • https://twitter.com/Panda_castro Panda

    I hope they do the same with god eater.

    • DizzyGear

      Theres a listing for the NA Vita version on Play-Asia for what its worth.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        yeah but there hasn’t been an official announcement of it, so I really doubt

  • Hellion91

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=740972552701524&id=348224975309619

    Read Bandai Namco’s announcement above. It is aimed for South East Asian Market. If you want to redeem the DLC, you will need SEA PSN ID (e.g Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore etc).

    • Fooey

      lol the content doesn’t exist…did they delete it?

    • Mk333

      I suppose HK acc will work too, I redeemed 30 days HK PS+ before on my Singaporean account and it works. Even DLC from games bought in HK also works.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        IIRC HK is included on SEA region, only Taiwan that was exclusive region

  • http://dragonsmana.deviantart.com/ Phillip Campana

    I really want this, but on the other hand I doubt the save transfer will work with this and the NA version (mostly because of the pre order DLC not matching). But still tempting.

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

      I can’t say if cross-save will work between different regional versions of the game, but my Asian-English version of Lost Song worked with my PAL version just fine.

      Don’t make the error of thinking that will absolutely apply to Cyber Sleuth, but it might be worth keeping in mind. I’m sure you could tweet/email them to ask.

      • http://dragonsmana.deviantart.com/ Phillip Campana

        Yes, definite wait and see.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

          Absolutely. I think it will be compatible imo, given how the save is on your profile rather than the game itself, but I wouldn’t take that word as law.

  • Jinzer0

    Not even a LE Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth for Vita in NA and EU?

    Well, guess I’ll have to skip dlcs and get the physical Asia English PSV version.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      but hey, even the Japanese one doesn’t have any LE. Games like Digimon and Gundam IIRC never have any LE version through history.

      • phayroent

        Gundam usually gets a limited edition console.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          Really? I rarely see it

    • Last Wind

      actually, you can use your NA DLC in most asian english releases, and the other way around. except for DLC code of course.

      I’ve tried that on tales of graces f, tales of xillia, metal gear rising, drakengard 3.

      • http://amc9988.deviantart.com/ amc99

        PSvita is region locked for DLC unfortuntely… so you can’t do that

        • Mk333

          I think he meant that there are games in Asian English that share the same regional code as the NA version. If the game indeed share the same code, the DLC is shared as well. Meaning you can buy DLC from NA store and it will work with your Asian cartridge.

          In reality there are a lot of games in Asian PSN that shares the same DLC with another region. For instance DOA5:LR. I have the free character DLC from Japan store and it worked with my Asian version of the game.

          The bad thing is, it’s not yet confirmed for Cyber Sleuth.

  • Quad Vesper

    WTF 293 comment?? ….is there someone raging in the comment below?

    • http://myanimelist.net/profile/chibuki chibuki

      Cyber Sleuth has always been a hot topic here at Gematsu, mainly because this community and several others made the localization happen.

      • Quad Vesper

        ahh ok….

  • Jessi Cat

    does anyone know somewhere this can be pre-ordered outside of play-asia?

    • Dimitri Theodosakis

      Sadly unliking most Asia retails don’t ship out Asia, Only Play Asia Ships Worldwide

      • http://fav.me/d3k2f2f G3n3raL86

        Απο τα μερη μας να ερθει και τπτ αλλο.

        • Kenny

          Γεια σου φίλε πώς είσαι ^^

          • http://fav.me/d3k2f2f G3n3raL86

            OHHH!!!! Wasn’t expecting this!!!:)

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

              If my childhood hasn’t totally deserted me: An chuid is mó suimiúil …

    • Joey

      I’m hoping Heavy Arm stock it.

    • Jinathin

      amiami

      • Jessi Cat

        Nope, they only had the JP version (of which I bought my copy from them), bit that ones sold out anyways. No Asian version there

        • Mark Lester Aguana

          Does the japan version come in with english subs?

          • Jessi Cat

            No, it’s japanese only

  • X-Bone

    Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth has always been mentioned many times in Gematsu as one of the most hyped games, considering that its Digimon, a series aimed for kids, as far as I know (because I watch Digimon anime). Sorry, I don’t know the source of hype for this game and I’m pretty lazy to look for older articles . Can someone fill me in?

  • http://amc9988.deviantart.com/ amc99

    Any important DLC for this game? I plan to buy the english Asia version for physical…

    • ringgo

      imo dlc not so important for storyline, but if u type who collect all digimon, dlc is a must if i say.
      or maybe in feature they’re release dlc side quest like jap ver.

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

      Here’s a look at the DLC, I hope it helps:

  • Satoshi Ookami

    Well, why not? This is one way how to handle it.

  • vashe9

    Yay, Digimon S1 got a proper fansub. I have to watch it before the game is released :p

  • blackwaltz91

    Will pre-ordering this asia physical version with an asia PSN account allow me to get all the DLCs like black Agumon and Gabumon?

  • Ryumoau

    For $50, i might as well just stick with the ps4 copy. The only reason i’m considering getting the digital ps vita version is because its supposedly going to be at least $20 cheaper than ps4.