Sony confirms PS2 emulation coming to PS4
posted on 11.19.15 at 11:45 PM EDT by (@salromano)
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Emulated PS2 games are coming to PlayStation 4, Sony has confirmed to Wired.

“We are working on utilizing PS2 emulation technology to bring PS2 games forward to the current generation,” a Sony representative told Wired via e-mail. “We have nothing further to comment at this point in time.”

When asked specifically whether that means disc-based PS2 emulation will also be supported, Sony would not comment.

Earlier today, we ran a story revealing that the PlayStation 4 “versions” of Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter, Star Wars: Racer Revenge, and Star Wars: Bounty Hunter—which are included with the Star Wars PlayStation 4 hardware bundle—all run via a PS2 emulator that supports trophies and upscales the game’s textures and frame rate.

Back in September, the Pan European Game Information board rated PS2 titles Ape Escape 2, Dark Cloud 2, and Twisted Metal: Black for release on PlayStation 4.

PlayStation Experience, Sony’s annual PlayStation event, runs from December 5 to 6 in San Francisco. It’s possible we’ll hear more about emulation there.

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  • XiaomuArisu

    Pretty nice
    The upscaling and improved fps sounds great

  • http://wholesomegamer.com/ G.

    The PS2 gen was one of the best gaming generations. This new gen looks like it’s going to repeat something similar. Put them together and *boom* .

  • chobitsza

    Ar Tonelico 1-2, Wild Arms 3-5, Radiata Stories, Star Ocean 3, Atelier Iris 1-3, Mana Khemia 1-2. Here I come!!!

    • Revorse

      PS2 was truly the home of JRPGs.

  • ayanami-chan
  • Elvick
    • kcz7

      Totes adores!!!! What’s the name of this show??

      • Daniel Rossevelt

        Reverse image searching, turns up… *dun dun duuuun* Its from an anime called Jewelpet.
        Edit; wait, even more precise Jewelpet Sunshine

        • kcz7

          Thank you. I was at work at the time ^^.

          • Daniel Rossevelt

            Haha no problem :)

    • https://twitter.com/Kaisenex Kaisen

      maybe they will announce them both at the next ps event?

      • Elvick

        That could be possible. Not like there’s any PSone SW games included in the bundle to kind of “leak” the feature to everyone.

  • Umar

    The JRPG and survival horror behemoth returns!..hoping for disc based or at aleast a wider catalogue of games than the current PS2 classics.

  • Lancer205

    Hope they are working on PS1 emulation as well. All the possibilities.

  • Touma Kazusa

    I’m assuming it’s going to be for PSN downloads only and only for certain titles. It’d be nice if it actually allowed to pop the PS2 discs in the console and play them, oh well in the meantime I’ll just keep using my good’ol PS2 when I have the itch to play some classics

    • Aluja

      That’s called PS2 classics on PSN I believe. This on the other hand is called emulation.

      • Touma Kazusa

        which I remind you aren’t compatible with PS4 as far as I remember

  • Dammage

    No way they can get that disc thing to work, but if they somehow did Sony wins the generation by default

    • Bebop

      and why would they not be able to? XBO is doing it? I have faith in them…but the probability of it happening IS very low :

      • 冷笑

        you just got. to. believe.

        • Bebop

          oh i do my nigguh,i do

      • Dammage

        Because I don’t think they would put in the effort into something that would ultimately not get them much money

        • Bebop

          it would def get them money, People are saying all the time their ps2 and 1s are dying, thats a 400 dollar investment to get all your gaming glory back, it’d be a seriously smart idea

          • Dammage

            They are? I only hear about PS3s dying all the time. And with PC emulation you already lose a good chunk of people who would not want to buy their old games again

            • Bebop

              ? ps3s dying already? yea I’m sure its happening but ps2’s are old as fuck

              • Dammage

                Well the older model PS3s that were very shittily built. Sold my old one for a slim right when they came out because I knew it was a ticking time bomb

                • Bebop

                  yea but what I’m saying is, if they make it to where you can use ps2 and 1 discs it’d make the ps4 have an insane amount of value added to it ontop of its awesome lineup

                  • Dammage

                    But how would they make money off of old PS2 games? It’s not like they’re going to reprint them and officially sell them

                    • Bebop

                      bruh they dont need to, do you know how much the ps4 sales will sky rocket ?!itd be retarded yea they should also add psn support of ps1 and 2 classics as well, then it’d be ULTIMATE PWNAGE

                    • Dammage

                      I’m thinking they might charge a small fee, like $5 or less to add trophy support and upresed textures to your game. Also PS2 games aren’t as big of a draw as you might think. The common man who buys Cawadoody and Madden every year doesn’t give a crap about this, and they’re a huge part of the audience

                    • Bebop

                      i dont think thats entirely true…the ps2 was the greatest selling console of all time bruh…ps4 is surpassing that yes but this is the ps2 we are talking about here

          • 冷笑

            hey, you could just buy a new laser or hinge… they’re like 10 bucks on ebay, or better yet, build a pc good enough to run it natively on 1080p or just wait for this update and play them by simply turning up your ps4.

            convenience is a nice thing.

            • Bebop

              LOL exactly ima wait and hope sony gets smart

  • Death Saved

    Buy a used ps2 copy the BIOS off of it and then copy your games onto your PC, download PCSX2 and you can play your old games and even improve their graphics if your pc can handle it, and you wont have to rebuy the same game every console gen.

    As long as you own the games and the PS2 you got the BIOS from this is legal.

    • 冷笑
    • Dammage

      I guess a lot of people don’t have a good enough PC, or they’re not willing to use their brain for an hour or so to do it

      • Death Saved

        not really the requirements are pretty tame

        Recommended

        Windows Vista / Windows 7 (32bit or 64bit) with the latest DirectX

        CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo @ 3.2 GHz or better OR i3/i5/i7 @ 2,8 GHz or better OR AMD Phenom II @ 3,2 GHz or better

        GPU: 8800gt or better (for Direct3D10 support)

        RAM: 1GB on Linux/Windows XP, 2GB or more on Vista / Windows 7

        you can build something better than that for around 350 to 400 usd.

        • Dammage

          My PC can easily run it, but that extra work for the uninitiated must seem hard or something

    • Skerj

      That’s how I’ve been rocking mine since my launch PS3 burned the hell up. It’s on my HTPC working pretty nicely and the DS4 syncs up to it perfectly.

    • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

      I’ve tried to legit do this before, but still had lots of problems with way too many games.

      Enough problems that I’ve considered just getting a PS2 again and playing some of the classics that way.

      If Sony fully supported it with the PS4, it would be way better.

  • dunno

    There are so many titles that aren’t on PSN that I want.
    Drakengard
    Star Ocean 3
    Rogue Galaxy
    Please add as many games possible for emulation!

    • MyBodyIsReady

      Rogue Galaxy was the bomb. Shame it sort of went under the radar

  • TheMechaEngineer

    As happy as I am, I don’t really need this. Just put all my Final Fantasy on the PS4. Kingdom Hearts is already on the ps3/ps4 so I’m good with that.

  • Bebop

    come on Sony…I Believe in you…

  • Wolf Star

    I can play persona 3 again yay

  • dunno

    Atlus I will pay you for every single one if you add DDS 1, 2, Nocturne, Raidou 1 and 2, and Persona 3 FES with trophy support to PS4.

    • Dammage

      They put them on sale all the damn time, so they sure as hell know they exist at least

  • Ducked

    Sly cooper games please

    • Davorbasic

      They’re already remastered

      • Ducked

        But I can’t play them on PS4.

  • Retro Reloaded

    Yes! The cats out of the bag! On the floor, playing with a little ball of yarn!

  • Warboss Aohd

    definitly not a response to Microsoft adding 360 game support to Xbox One……..though only 4 games to start with?

    You better start adding them up quickly Sony.

    • Dammage

      PSX is right around the corner, I imagine we’ll get the official word then

    • Elvick

      Sony filed a patent for a method of adding trophies to games not designed with them back in 2013… and these have trophies… be curious to hear more about it.

      http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/03/sonys_latest_patent_could_bring_trophies_to_older_games

      It stands to reason, this is nothing new.

      • dunno

        Gib PSP trophies pls

      • OverlordZetta

        Why in the world have they never done anything with this?

        • Elvick

          Maybe this is that. At least going forward. Who knows? We’ll have to wait and see how things are done. If we even get that kind of information about how it works.

          That patent, could really be a game changer for re-releasing old content. Like it or not, people love trophies. And if Sony really can improve performance with this emulation too? And they can use the system OS features? Lawd give it

    • Luna Kazemaru

      lol

  • Jerry Hu

    This is a great news!

  • Ryu Hayabusa

    Disk based please!!!

    I have Ps2 games by the boat load

    • Dmonish

      good luck with that.

      • Ryu Hayabusa

        Even if they don’t I still have a ps2…

        It would just be nice if I could have my physical Ps4 and My Ps2 games with one machine

  • LordKaiser

    Boom! Something exploded! Greatness awaits.

  • JBallZ

    Trophies? Yes please

  • MrFinalgamer

    Ape Escape 2&3 is all I need Sony (and Dark Cloud 2).

    • 冷笑

      MFG knows whassup

  • Pekola

    Xenosaga or bust.

    I kind of want to replay Eternal Poison and Grimgrimore. So those too plsthank.

  • tokyobassist

    Fuck…probably means the games that they put up are the only ones enabled.

    I’m keeping my fingers crossed for disc compatibility but I won’t give my hopes up.

    • Bebop

      yea i feel that way too…I have a huge feeling that the god damn trophies is gonna make it an excuse to be digital only…

      • tokyobassist

        Trophies are cool and all but I rather just play my game (bonus points if streaming enabled)

        • Bebop

          bruh thats what I’m sayin i could gafl about trophies if i could pop my disk in and play my ps2 games and ps1 games

      • Blue Flare

        There’s no such thing as a PS4 game that doesn’t install even when it’s disc based. I’m wondering if the PS4 would get confused when trying to install said PS2 game via disc.

        Here’s an idea though: what if the PS4 could read PS2 discs and take you to the PlayStation Store to download a free, digital version of the game?

    • Dmonish

      you’d be a fool to think sony will let you use your discs lol.

      even the ps3 didn’t have that once they removed it.

      only psn.

  • Dammage

    .//hack is a must! I loved playing the first one when I was little but never played the rest

  • LordKaiser

    But I hope that we can use our PS2 discs also because then it won’t mean that much to me since I got most of the PS2 games that I ever wanted.

  • Shulk

    I could care far less about trophies on my PS2 games in general. I don’t need that one bit at all.Ive got 94 ps2 games on disc and don’t have any interest on what the PS store offers.

    • Ryu Hayabusa

      I agree, personally tho I couldn’t care less About trophies with any game. but thats probably just me…

      • Bebop

        no you aint alone on that, I never cared about trophies I just wanna play the game lol but i understand for the collectors its awesome so no hate, as long as it it doesnt take priority over making games playable by making them digital only because the wanna add trophy support…

    • Aniki X1

      You could care less? Why would you care about trophies?

  • Invisbin

    I would gladly rebuy most of the games I played as a child.

  • Retro Reloaded

    Just make the PlayStation Legacy. It should be able to play PS1, PS2, PSP, PS3 and select PSVITA games. Charge us $399 for it and call it a day.

    • Mr Fwibbles

      I’d buy one. In fact, as it stands right now, I’d rather have one of those than a PS4.

    • crazyhunter

      Well the ps3 can emulate and play psp games so yeah i can see something like that possible a repackaged ps3 with the same or new os who cares with the ps2 chip for 100 percent compatibility for 400 i will buy it

      • Retro Reloaded

        Thats exactly what I’m saying. They could shove a psvita tv and the ps2 chips or a better emulator into some PS3s, Get some spray paint and put it out there for $400. It would sell like hot cakes.

    • Budgiecat

      and NeoGeo and PC Engine games dont forget

  • Daniel Rossevelt

    I’ll be really disappointed if this is PS Store games only, that would mean no Graffiti Kingdom :(

    I guess its possible they might make it work with disks, but I doubt it. I suppose I’ll just hold a shred of hope and hang tight waiting for them to announce more about it.

    • Budgiecat

      thats one game that desperately needs a sequel or remaster with online (so you can swap designs)

      • Daniel Rossevelt

        Without a doubt, but sadly it’ll probably never happen. Sharing creations would be amazing, and if they could add mouse support or something it would be perfect. The PS2 controller was great, but it wasn’t that good for making creatures, took a lot of work to make a cool character.

        Hmmm I wonder who ones the rights now…

  • Dmonish

    sony following ms?

    i’ll never believe it.

    only way i’d give them any sort of credit is if they allow discs, which they never will.

  • 「Resonance」

    「I want to believe that Sony will allow players to use their old PS2 discs, but I have to have realistic expectations. Sony is still a company, they want money. Either way, backwards compatibility of ANY kind is nice.」

    EDIT: To add onto my comment, if they DO add in disc-based backwards compatibility, Sony would have to make a PS2 memory card adapters like they did with the early PS3s.

    • Budgiecat

      they wont have to do that (memory card adapters) but it would be a nice gesture. Realistically I don’t see them doing that even if they make it disc-based BC

      • 「Resonance」

        「Okay, they would not HAVE to do it, but I think at some point, a 3rd party would, assuming we could actually use our discs.」

        • Budgiecat

          yeah thats wat I was thinking; someone like Nyko or whatever

      • Bebop

        they dont need memory cards at all, they could just do what the ps3 did, it had digital memory cards with the ps1 discs.

    • Bebop

      why ? the ps3 had digital memory cards that you used with ps1 discs it could do the same on ps4

      • 「Resonance」

        「Because I own a PlayStation 2, and if I DID use my PlayStation 4 to play my PS2 discs, I would like to transfer the save data from my memory cards to my PlayStation 4 instead of having to start from scratch.」

        • Bebop

          bruh I’m sorry…but thats like wanting cake and eating it too…yea i got memory cards too and when i found out i could play ps1 games on my ps3 i accepted the fact that i had to restart, besides,…you got year old save files that you can’t restart ? or new play through on a ps4? that just doesnt seem like a big issue if discs are usable and digital memory cards are possible

          • 「Resonance」

            「How is it “wanting my cake and eating it too”? I merely want a way to transfer what I already have. It is not that big of an issue for me since, again, I still own a working PS2, so if I wanted to play my old games I just just turn on my PS2. Or if I wanted to upscale my PS2 games like what the PS4 is rumored to do, I can just emulate and still have access to my old save files. Is it that unreasonable to ask Sony or a 3rd party manufacturer to make a device that will copy the data from my memory card. I am sure I am not the only one who shares this sentiment, so there is a decent chance that at some point such a device will be considered at the very least.

            Besides, the PlayStation 3 had a PS1/PS2 memory card transfer device when the PS3 first came out. I used it to transfer my PS2 saves onto my memory cards when my PS2 backwards compatible PS3 broke.」

            • Bebop

              i dont know what to tell you man, if sony does some how make it to where you can play discs on a ps4…wanting to then transfer your old saves from a memory card just sounds like over kill especially when you can already have digital memory cards on the console like ps3 did. Id be satisfied with the ability to play the damn games, having to restart is a very small sacrifice to play my discs on the ps4

  • 冷笑

    If it can read discs, I would be so happy playing SMTIII: Nocturne all day.

    • Bebop

      id POOP bruh….POOP my pants

      • 冷笑

        you nasty man, get some diapers.

        • Bebop

          ima need some nigguh if this shit gets real :P

    • Skerj

      If it can remote play those to Vita. ..my dreams. All of my damn dreams.

      • Bebop

        naw son…we gotta get you on the stand with Tokimonsta first

        • Skerj

          Well that’s my real dream. Low tier shitty dreams is remote playing 8 year old PS2 games to my Vita though.

          • Bebop

            LOL naw son…Dreams of Champions are all Top tier!

        • Budgiecat

          Vita shoulda been designed to play PS2 Classics (and have L2/R2 buttons)

          • Bebop

            you right, I dont own a Vita tho

  • PuppetMaster

    Disc based or not, i only want my PS1 & PS2 Classic playable on PS4. That’s all.

  • Blaqsailens .

    This is awesome, but since I can play PS2 games on my PC already I don’t think I’d ever use this on my PS4 sadly. Unless, of course, Sony does things like upscaling the internal resolution and applying widescreen patches.

  • Dimitri Theodosakis

    Please no Region Lock so I can play Dark Cloud 2

    • Davorbasic

      You do get its got different names in different regions?

  • OverlordZetta

    I’m willing to bet the Star Wars thing is an exception.

    This is going to be like Vita with PSP/PS1 again, except this time they care, so they’ll actually pony up for the licenses.

  • HerosLight

    Pretty useless to me since I can play them on my PC.

    Give me PS3 support instead.

    • Luna Kazemaru

      not going to happen

      • Bebop

        theres alway those people that have to boast about how they dont need this because of pc blahblah, taking away how awesome it is for the people who like console game which NEWS FLASH…IS ALOT

        • Luna Kazemaru

          Far as i know there isn’t any PC emulation for ps3 games (like i said as far as i know) and for the record I say its not going to happen is the same reason as stated before “cell power happened”

          • Bebop

            i was talking more about the unnecessary need to boast about how they dont need a feature that easily would be very awesome because they can do it on their pc. its kinda like the PC pissing contest thing…youre def right about ps3 tho the cell processor was a mistake

          • Tatsuya1221

            Well, there are are a few games that start, but outside of some psn games, i think few show much, i know disgaea 4 can somewhat get ingame, but it’s not there yet.

            I’d say maybe 3 years before we see any mid to high level commercial games working on it, though i have been surprised before (psp emulator ppsspp went from almost no games working to 75+% working near flawless in under a year).

        • HerosLight

          I’m not trying to sound like one of those “PC mustardrace” people when saying that. I own a few PS2 games mind you, and some got remasters on PS3. Even if I didn’t own this current PC, I still wouldn’t care for this feature. It’s cool if others do, I wasn’t trying to cause an argument.

          • Bebop

            you…are a legitimately a chill person and I like you. I apologize if i came off mean, there were already several posts before you that were similar about the pc so it kinda scratched my butt the wrong way

        • Ferrick

          I’ve used the ps2 emulation within my pc for a while now, and truth be told, I opted to cash out money to buy a ps2 right afterward, and it felt and played better

          • Bebop

            das wasup playa i still got my ps2 my damn controllers got fucked up tho

            • Ferrick

              ayy my brotha, them old games really are the bees knees when you got tha feels for the oldies

              • Bebop

                fa real man, the worst thing tho is i played rogue galaxy not too long ago and god DAMN Does it look terrible it needs an HD like bad the art direction is great but the blurry darkness is just hard on the eyes

                • Ferrick

                  I know what you mean, but they’re still fun, currently replaying Ace Combat Zero, and it still saddens me that bamco ran the series to the ground

                  • Bebop

                    thats the flying game right? i never played those, I always wanted one of those dope Joystick sets tho, I had one for my PC when i went ham on games like Decent and Forsaken

                    • Ferrick

                      yep, the flight simulator, though you don’t really need a HOTAS for it, not that i’m sure if there is for ps2

                    • Bebop

                      thats dope tho those were really cool.

    • PuppetMaster

      Yes useless for you but not for me and the others.

    • vishmarx

      thanks for letting us know. no one knew a ps2 emulator on pc existed.
      also, good luck playing dirge of cerberus and valkyrie profile among others

      • kudostoyou

        never knew how to setting VP2 its always a mess lol
        hope this bc boost 60 fps to every games

        • vishmarx

          thats because there is none..vp cannot work properly.

    • Budgiecat

      gimme your PC so I can break it

      • Retro Reloaded

        Bad Kitty! Get down!

    • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

      Meh, PS2 emulation on PC is still pretty wonky on so many titles.

      • Make It Stop

        Because you have a Compaq.

        • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

          lol stahp.

  • Fooey

    I’m fine with this, but I kind of also want BC with my PS3 too. I don’t usually play my PS3 anymore since I got a PS4 and playing ToX2 and Yakuza 5 on my PS4 would be awesome.

    • Zackasaur

      PS3 emulation is impossible on modern hardware. It’s regrettable, but there is no way around it. PS Now provides it via streaming, but that’s way too expensive for Sony to run without payment.

      • Tatsuya1221

        Not exactly, it could be done, but it would cost ALOT of money to make one if sony was the one to make it, in all likelihood i wouldn’t expect a ps3 emulator for ps4 until someone emulates it on pc to acceptable levels, like they did with the ps3 and ps2 software B/C..

  • https://plus.google.com/+CrystalPower92/about?hl=en Crystal Power

    This can go from best thing ever to meh whateves. That all depends on if it supports discs. I would rather own physical overall and I won’t re-buy old games in digital format when I can just continue the struggle with my actual Phat PS2.

  • Blesmi

    That’s awesome, hopefully they’ll do disk based emulation (although I feel they won’t)

  • https://twitter.com/Kaisenex Kaisen

    yes sony yes!

  • shogunknight

    Great news, hopefully the price for the PS2 titles on PSN wont be $60. That would be a disaster lol. Wonder if they also include PS1 in the mix, that would also be nice

  • articuzwolf

    now I just need to dig into find my old PS2 games…
    hopefully it would work

  • Tetsu

    Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease physical discs!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • donkey3

    Yes!!!

  • DrForbidden

    This is good news, but Sony is still playing coy with the information. Hopefully it will also work for discs instead of being only for PS Store titles. I still have a working PS2, but it won’t keep going forever…

    • kthanxyousuck

      But then they couldn’t charge you for 10+ year old games….

      • vishmarx

        yeah how dare they not make everything free.

        • dragonknight337

          Think he just hopes for disc emulation or at least like MS has where you dl a digital copy of your disc game to play. Would be lame if it was just for digital copies you have to rebuy.

          If it is disc and is actually uprendering with added achievements that’s cool, but if it’s just an upscale to 1080p I’ll just hang out with pcsx2 still. Probably will anyway for that 6x native resolution

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

    Digimon Rumble Arena 2. Please, thank you.

    Also, this page coming up weird for anyone else?

    • Bebop

      naw its weird…only this article too, others are normal

      • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

        Freaking me out man, it’s freaking me lol

        • Bebop

          lol its all good bruh listen to music and B well!

        • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

          Sometimes the host or server lags and pages load up via the mobile view even on non mobile browsers.

          It’s just an odd glitch that usually goes away pretty soon. If it doesn’t seem to go away, clear recent cache and stuff and try reloading.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

            Zero my friend…it was only a few minuets after I posted that last night when it fixed itself.

            Still, I appreciate you noticing my post :)

    • https://twitter.com/Kaisenex Kaisen

      i loved rumble arena 2

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViledinner?feature=mhee Evil Ascendant

    @Sal, come on dude. I know I’m new, but fix the layout. With my OCD it’ll give me a nightmare if I ever fall asleep! <3

  • Preston Ray

    YES

  • Limbless

    I would say the odds of this being disc-based emulation are somewhere between 0 and none. Why let you use the discs you have when they could sell the game digitally to you?

    • DrForbidden

      Because they want to compete with or one-up Microsoft?

      • kthanxyousuck

        But they’re already outselling microsoft and no one really gives a shit about BC on Xbox One.

        • Tatsuya1221

          It’s not that no one cares about emulation on the xbox one, it’s that the games the xb1 is emulating are for the most part, games few who care about B/C care about, or they have a pc alternative.

          Call me when the xb1 has lost odyssey, etc on the list of titles and maybe i’d care.

          • Bebop

            it’d be even better if they did OG xbox games, then you could have jet set radio Future, Phantom Dust, Kameo etc etc

            • Tatsuya1221

              Personally i’d like to play panzer dragoon orta, so i definitely agree.

              • Bebop

                that too! thats a dope ass game

            • YuriFan

              I’ll start crying if they get Sudeki on there.

              • Bebop

                ? on what

                • YuriFan

                  Xbox one.

    • Bebop

      well that would make the ps4 pretty god damn sexy now would it ?adding more value to the console and selling a shit ton more, especially when ps2 and 1s are dying after 2 decades of life…

  • ShinGundam

    I can’t get excited over using physical disks when I am using a PAL region PS4 :<
    Guess download will be better for me.

    • Zarathos No Daimaōh

      I’d be fine if they at least let you use you purchased US and japanese discs . PS3 BC was bloody usless to me , since it was blocked to Pal games on EU consoles , and not even available to all versions of EU consoles anyway

  • kthanxyousuck

    Sounds cool but ehh, depending on Sony support. They come up with so many things that they eventually just decide not to bother with after awhile. PS Now, Vita, PS TV, they don’t have the best track record with this stuff. I could see them announcing it, having an initial burst of great games available on PSN and then never getting shit or tying it to PS Plus or something that just makes it more than it needs to be.

    Hell for all we know it could be an extension of PS Now,

    • Elle

      They just added like 150 games to psnow a couple weeks ago so someone must be using it.

  • Yan Bezina

    Dark cloud 2 … OMG , yes please .

  • MTK

    All that talk about it just ruined the surprise. Well what’s next that suppose to be at ps experience.

    • Mk333

      Maybe PS1 BC? or Partial PS3 BC? or even PSP BC on PS4, who knows? :)

  • Franggio Hogland

    Gematsu-chama, if you ever get to interview Sony please ask them if it’ll be region free disk based emulation. Always so sad when some of my PS1/2 discs didn’t work on the PS3 :(

    • Zarathos No Daimaōh

      Ditto . I have a bad feeling that it will be region locked like the originals … be it disc based or digital PSN stuff . I won’t sweat it , i’d still keep purchaing or using US games as a caution and as usual , i just would like to know

      • Franggio Hogland

        Yeah true enough but I actually want to support my region :/ And to be totally honest as Sony was a MAJOR player on everything back in the day I never imagined that the disparity would be this bad nor that they would enforce* stupid rules that forced publishers to localise the store meta data to the regions language even if the game wasn’t supported in that language :(

        * I’m not sure if this is a Sony thing or a national thing.

        • Mk333

          I think region free will only be implemented on the digital version since devs would need to agree to make their product region-free for their title to be up on PSN.

          Meanwhile the pressed disc version was out at the time when region lock was norm, and not all devs agree with region-free. So I think Sony will keep it as it is on PS2. which is region-locked. But I’d like to be proven wrong though.

  • SirRichard

    Good, good, hopefully a PSX debut then. With some level of disc-use in their competitor, I imagine Sony must be pressing to at least match that.

  • Elle

    Put FFXII on psn and we wouldn’t need a remaster if it runs that at 60fps like the star wars games.

    • Davorbasic

      I’d rather have zodiac version

  • Rain

    FUCK YESSSS!!! Me waaaaaant

  • Kuro

    I miss you FFXII :’c

  • Eric Taylor

    Now Microsoft needs to do BC with the og Xbox and we can party like it’s 2001

  • Dysisa

    This is a good thing, if done right. Hope it’s not as awful as the PS3 backwards compatibility though. Not really interested in paying for my PS2 games twice, you know.

  • Suriel Cruz

    Finally I could finish my SMT: Nocturne, Devil Summoner 1 & 2, Stella Deus and hopefully they released Magna Carta.

    • Martian Wong

      Stella Deus is very good game. Good job.

    • seyEliveD

      Ugh, Magna Carta, what a depressing game ..

  • Seigi no Mikata (正義ノ味方)

    I wasn’t expecting such good news
    I hope disc-based emulation will be supported.

  • Dead Maid

    Now I can play Ring of Red on my PS4?

  • zuuum

    Will I need to rebuy my ps2(classics) games on psn? I hope not…and we’ll hear more news about this soon right?

    • Elle

      They have nothing to say as of now but chances are that they will address this at PSX in December.

  • Martian Wong

    I am wondering can I just download those ps2 classic I purchased on psn.

  • phayroent

    Xbone is getting more sales because of BC. Sony must not have gotten a warm reception for their $300 VR BS. So they play their ace earlier than they wanted. Maybe @PS Experience or E3 2016. PS 2 was my go to game system, so please be disc based emulation.

    • Elle
    • Zarathos No Daimaōh

      or it’s just about keeping momentum , even if reacting to the rivals you know ….

    • Rex Howard

      Xbone lol. PS fangirls are so cute.

      • Ein on Shrooms

        Xbone is far better than calling it dust collector, LOL

        • Elle

          Oop lmao

  • Rid Vesalius

    Suikoden series with trophy support please!! PLEASSSEEE!!!

  • bob

    Why don’t those cheapasses just make it so you can just play the discs? The people who don’t have the OOP games will buy them digitally, and I get to sever 2 other consoles from my entertainment center.

    • Ein on Shrooms

      Agreed. My copies of DQ 8, Xenosaga 1 and 3, and Dark Cloud 2 miss me.

  • Scorpio

    But… Xbox life.

  • Tilia

    Be prepared to have to rebuy all your PS2 library when they could have you know, let you use your old games.

  • Marco Tinè

    I’m positive that Sony’s approach to emulation won’t be any different from Microsoft’s: if anything, I’d love to hear from them about the reason why a true disc based emulation seems so hard to achieve on modern consoles.

    My two cents? No real technical reasons, only piracy and marketing concerns: who knows, maybe having the emulators running directly on consoles may expose security flaws in their operative systems. But I’m just speculating there.

    • Tilia

      There is nothing hard about it. PSone classics and remasters simply taught them they can charge you again for the games you already own, they just take advantage of it.
      Contrary to popular belief DVD can’t be pirated if the system that reads the security sectors is secured. You insert the disc in the tray, if it cannot find the security sectors (that burners can’t reproduce), then it doesn’t play, as simple as that.

      • Marco Tinè

        Correct. With a catch: Microsoft is offering free downloads for those who already owns the original 360 discs, so it’ll be interesting to see how Sony is going to play that card. My guess is they will continue to offer remasters for PS3 titles, and paid downloads for 6th and 5th generation games with options to download for free the ones you still have at home, or bought through the PSN. Would be the most sensible way to do it.

      • youngsexynerd

        You talk about PS Classics being for sale on the PS3 like it was a bad thing… When if fact it was one of the best things about the PS3! If you already own the games they were selling, NOTHING was stopping you from playing said games on the original consoles they were intended for. Lord forbid Sony gives us options for purchasing more games that we might not own…. In fact, a lot of the titles were extremely rare and expensive to buy in disk form so im sure MILLIONS of people were very happy to finally be able to buy them and play them on PS3 (For Example Suikoden 1 and 2, Final Fantasy 7,8,9, Chrono Trigger and Chross, Xenogears, Wild Arms 1 and 2. Ect, ect, ect…)

  • greenreaper

    PS2 disc based emulation support would be a dream. I don’t have a working console anymore, but I still have a few PS2 games that I want to play again from time to time.

  • Two Crows

    Does this emulation thing literally copy the PS2 experience or will it upscale the picture so it’s clearer on 1080p screens? I still have my PS2 and playing those SD games on a HD screen is not ideal.

    • Marco Tinè

      The emulator renders at native 1292×896, then upscales to antialiased Full HD. While no miracles can be done to 2D assets, which are refiltered to some extent, geometries are much clearer and cleaner.

  • Gojira Twit

    Disc-based emulation would be nice but probably won’t happen. At best they’ll make it so PS2 games you purchased on PS3 will be downloadable on PS4.

  • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

    I’d love to see them fully embrace it. I have a feeling this was something Sony was working on from the start, but backwards compatibility of PS2 was likely not the priority. Let’s not forget, as great as the PS4 is, they have been slow to update it in some regards, especially with Apps and such that the PS3 already had, that most would have figured it would launch with.

    Even till this day, it still has a few things they need to fix. They just finally got avatar and media player support on the PS4 fairly recently.

    In other words, the updates have been slow for some stuff, so I wouldn’t be surprised if emulation of some kind wasn’t a possibility from the start.

    I think it would be great, trophy support is obviously cool, but I think a fully supported PS2 emulation would be very nice.

    Especially if it supports PS2 discs somehow. While many point to the emulator on PC, this would be way better. Something supported by Sony, properly optimized, with trophy support, perhaps even patches for glitches and such with specific games?

    I suppose I can dream. =P

  • Mighty Sam

    Oh great news.It’ll be very useful for those who have huge collection of PS2 games and still want to play them.last week I bought a new laptop and it runs PCSX2 smoothly and I can’t wait to catch up on all the great games I’ve missed.the bad thing is that the bloody thing keeps crashing every 20-30 minutes on my Windows 10…

    • equalequation

      Tried changing sound output from XAudio2 to Directsound? That’s usually what trips post-W7 machines up for intermittent crashes.

  • Pandahao

    oh the day i can play xenosaga 3 on my ps4 would be awesome

    • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

      Finally.

    • koksuckaahh

      Why not all 3?

  • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

    Glad I saved my PS2 games. I was tempted to sell all I had to make ends meet but there’s still hope.

    • Max Watson

      You’ll have to buy the games, you can’t just put the disc in and be able to play them :(

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        Damn…

  • JudasNero

    can they bring back dot hack along with this i wonder?

    • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

      Yes please.

  • Nephi Appel

    Everquest online adventures and champions of norrath

  • samuel

    Please do this for the Vita also. I have persona 3 and I need to play that on the go

    • Leo Liu

      Doubt PSV is remotely powerful enough to emulate a PS2.

      • Sneeze

        Sony stated when creating the Vita, that its impossible to create a portable PS2 because it would burn the hands of the user due the heat.

      • samuel

        I don’t know the break down of it but i’ve used the remote play feature on the PSV while playing PS4 games and it looked pretty good so I think it could handle some PS2 games at least

        • Leo Liu

          Remote play is simply streaming the graphics and sound over to your PSV. You can even consider it as your computer monitor with an HDMI cable, you won’t think it is the monitor doing the computing when you are playing Crysis 3.

          Remote play certainly needs more power than simply transferring the display, but it is not close to what running a PSV game would require.

  • koksuckaahh

    If they allow disc based Ps2 emulation on Ps4, I will cry for 2 reasons.

    1.I can finally play some of my old favorites on a current console.

    2.Over all the ps2 games, console and memory card full of “Memories” I sold out of desperation.

    “When asked specifically whether that means disc-based PS2 emulation will also be supported, Sony would not comment.”

    Sony…Make “Me” Believe.

  • mesul6anme

    I want a platinum 🏆for ape escape 2 that doesn’t require doing any of the time attack levels… Ummm kay lol. But seeing how the star wars ps2 game dont have platinums i guess any ps2 game womt too