Ape Escape 2, Dark Cloud 2, and Twisted Metal: Black rated for PS4 in Europe
posted on 09.14.15 at 12:29 AM EDT by (@salromano)
PS2 Classics selection headed to PlayStation 4?

Dark Cloud 2

The Pan European Game Information Board has rated Ape Escape 2, Dark Cloud 2 (Dark Chronicle), and Twisted Metal: Black for PlayStation 4.

Twisted Metal: Black is already available as a PS2 Classic for PlayStation 3 in Europe. It was released in September 2012.

This would appear to be Sony bringing its selection of PS2 Classics from PlayStation 3 to PlayStation 4. If anything, we might find out for sure tomorrow, as Sony is holding its SCEJA Press Conference 2015 in Japan.

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  • DesmaX

    Oh, finally.

    Hope they really went with “We want a Next-Gen version of these classic ports”. Would love trophy support

  • Invisbin

    Omg give me Ape Escape 2

  • The_Anomaly_Crab

    BOOOOOOOO!!! I want new games from the franchises.

    • DesmaX

      This aren’t remasters. You can think of them as ROM Dumps

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  • JonathanisPrimus

    The fact that they’re getting separate ratings makes me think you’re going to have to rebuy the Classics you previously bought on PS3.

    • Elvick

      Why? Cross buy stuff was rated like this too.

      • JonathanisPrimus

        Was every PSone Classic given an individual rating for Vita in Europe?

  • Shippoyasha

    I really want Ape Escape 3 finally. AE2 is still really good though.


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  • Lancer205

    Never got the chance to play Dark Cloud 2, but pretty cool bringing PS2 classics to PS4.

  • Budgiecat

    “I want to be able to play my PS1 and PS2 discs in the PS4 like I could with the launch PS3”
    No u rebuy u rebuy nao

  • gulabjamal

    Omg no frickin way dark cloud 2 was amazing!!

  • Unretributed

    How about Ape Escape 4, Dark Cloud 3, and a new Twisted Metal?

    • K!

      Ape Escape 4(i just wonder what happening to the team making Ape Escape actually lol)
      Dark Cloud 3(Level-5 is too busy with more Yokai Watch games)
      new Twisted Metal(no idea what happened to the team lol)

    • articuzwolf

      Jaffe is still working on KillStrain, so maybe after?

      • kudostoyou

        you mean Drawn to Death

        • articuzwolf

          Yep, I stand corrected then

    • Pastmaster

      Team Ape were disbanded years ago. Last time we saw a proper Ape Escape was AE3 in 2005. Since then the creator left to co-found Q-Games. Team Gravity is filling that empty space now along with a new internal team. Gravity Rush and a brand new IP are what we are going to see from Japan Studio.

    • Phelan

      I’m naively wishing that it can still happen.

      Dark Cloud 2 is the name only for NA.

      Both Japan and Europe (news is talking about Europe) use correct name, which is Dark Chronicle (ダーククロニクル).

      Co maybe it is going to be Dark Cloud 2 for EU and Dark Cloud 3 for NA?

  • Elvick

    Please Yevon. Give it to me. Why is the original still not on PSN? Come on. Licensing is the devil.

  • Skerj

    I saw Ape Escape and PS4 and my heart. ..my heart started going crazy. Then I read the rest. :(

  • danielflugt

    Better be sodding 60hz.

  • Combo

    Nice that this might actually be happening.

    Now lets hope all of the current PS2 (And hopefully PS1) Classics all come over automatically. Please don’t pull a Vita, or even worse, a Wii U.

  • Zackasaur

    I would buy Dark Cloud 2.

  • https://twitter.com/Kaisenex Kaisenex

    Ohh snaap

  • Franggio Hogland

    I litteraly screamed “what” and now I’m considering what would happen if I dared believe and then got crushed…. Please be true

  • Elle

    Oh lawd. OH LAWD.

    • Yaro

      Oy, I was gonna type that.

      But yeah, article let me down that it might not be an actual HD remaster…I would love Dark Cloud HD…

  • http://psnprofiles.com/Endless_Sky20 Walkingvirus

    I want HD remaster of Dark Cloud 2. That game was awesome.

  • PuppetMaster

    HD remaster?
    PSN PS2 classic?
    or…PS Now?

    • Andrew Bland

      I’m guessing PS Now or PSN PS2 Classic. I HIGHLY doubt it would be a remake or remaster. Mainly because of Ape Escape 2 being the most hated entry in the main franchise. I’d think they do 1 or 3 before that game. But then there’s Dark Cloud 2 and Twisted Metal Black. Two very well received games that could be remastered. Dunno.

    • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

      Please not ps now.

  • https://twitter.com/Kaisenex Kaisenex
    • PuppetMaster

      Poor Shu :'(

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        Looks like he’s having fun… But why?

    • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

      The fuck is he doing? Singing?

      • http://www.youtube.com/MyDamnNight ShackD
        • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

          Why do this?

      • https://twitter.com/Kaisenex Kaisenex

        Eating something spicy lol

        • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5


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  • bloodiOS

    Sooner than I thought. I expected them to only do this after the production of the PS3 has ceased.

    • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

      I thought it was gonna be never.

  • vishmarx

    hopefully we can use the same ones we bought on ps3

    • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

      Oh god yes!

  • https://twitter.com/Kaisenex Kaisenex

    There were also reports some time ago that the games would have trophy support and be upscaled…also…being able to take screenshots and livestream it would be amazing

    I hope it’s true

    Also that new star wars games limited edition is going to have downloadable classics too

    • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

      Does this mean ps4 will via psn have ps2 games?

    • Jeremy Noble

      GOD YES. Would livestream for days. Trophies would be nice as well.

  • percentaged

    This is gonna be gud.

  • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

    I want dc3 but I’ll settle for rogue galaxy and dc2 on my ps4.

  • dapaintrain

    Ps2 classics returning to ps4 is great news I love my Ps2 era rockstar games collection

  • Phelan


    Europe had proper name -> Dark Chronicle

    Maybe… just maybe… they are talking about new Dark Cloud?

    (as awesome Dark Chronicle was I’m getting tired of remasters… like really tired… so I really hope that they are talking about sequel)

  • kiri25

    Idk first thing I thought of was PSnow. Sony did say PS1 and PS2 classics would be coming to PSnow after all. So that was my 1st thought tho hopefully I’m wrong.

    • Havok83

      PSNow games dont get rated for the PS4 though as they arent on the PS4 platform. They are streamed and appear on multiple devices

      • kiri25

        Dark cloud 2 to my knowledge was nvr released outside of Japan as a ps2 classic. Not sure about ape escape 2 and twisted metal black, but if neither those were released as well then they would have to be re-rated for PSnow just as ps2 classic games are rated for psn.

        Now if ape escape and twisted have alrdy been released then I can see ur point. But if it’s nvr been released it has to be rated for PSnow

        • Havok83

          The article states they are being rated for PS4, which implies they will be made available for that platform. Again, PSNow is not limited to the PS4 so a game being added to that would not be rated as a PS4 title

          And Twisted Metal Black has been released so there goes that

  • sunny

    PS2 BC is happening finally.
    And with the rumoured trophy support on PS2/PS1 + upscaling it’ll be interesting.
    I wonder if Shareplay will work on these for Co-op games :D

    • Tristan Isaac

      “BC”, yea right, they just remaster them, so you have to buy the again, so Sony gets more money. On Xbox One BC, you can still play 360 titles without rebuying them.

      • sunny

        Spot the butthurt xbot fanboy ^

        • Anime10121

          Is it really butthurt though if he’s telling the truth >_>

          I mean, NEITHER option is great atm since the XBO’s BC is so lackluster at launch, but rerating them generally means they plan to be sold again on a new platform, so the PS4 option doesnt appear to be actual BC (which the PS4 is MORE than capable of), more than it is more emulation methods where you buy the PS2 “iso’s”.

          At least in the Xbones case you can use both your disc or the download…But until its actually officially announced I cant say for sure, but the precedent is there that these are gonna be resold over being “actual BC”, since “actual BC” doesnt generally warrant a new rating.

          • sunny

            BC is being able to play the older games. Doesn’t matter what way. Anyways we will see what Sony does before we act like we know everything they will be doing.

            • Anime10121

              I’m fairly certain PSN Classics arent exactly what people refer to when they say BC… (especially if they are completely separate from the PS3 versions you’ve already bought, which I’m not saying is the case since we dont know exactly how it’ll work yet).

              I mean people dont call Virtual Console backwards compatibility…

              Either way though, all I’m saying is that I think its a bit harsh to go straight on attack mode when he/she hasnt said anytthing completely out of left field… especially when there is actual precedent for his post.

            • Tilia

              Except no, BC is being able to play the originals, a remaster or port or w/e =/= BC.
              Sony doesn’t care about BC, there’s no money in it for them, they want you to rebuy the same games on every platform.

      • Tilia

        ^ This. I’m no MS fanboy, I actually never owned an Xbox, always been PS and PC, but there’s no denying MS did a good thing with supporting BC on the Xbone.

    • Pastmaster

      Let Layton solve the puzzle: 1) Dark Chronicle’s trademark in Tokyo gets registered in march of 2014 after over a decade in limbo. 2) Some insider (if you would call him) starts a thread at Gamespot about Dark Cloud 3 in late October last year when he met Hino in a interview. 3) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144564238&postcount=299 “I’m sure Level 5’s title next year is going to surprise a lot of people too. It’s not a crazy thing that some of these developers are being approached”. 4) Series composer, Tomohito Nishiura, have not worked on any new games since last Professor Layton was released on 3DS in Japan on February 28 in 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomohito_Nishiura 5) Dark Cloud 2 rated for PS4 in Europe the day before the press conference. Clues and evidence points at a next installment in Dark Cloud series. JRPG1 that have chance to melt the hardcore.

  • Zancrow

    Finally, Dark Cloud 2!

  • BlueFlamez

    AM I DREAMING??!! someone pinch me. Holy shit what a coincidence, cuz DC and AE were all I would talk about when I talk to my friends about video games lately ^^ This is so awesome :D

  • Lansou Everett

    OH MY GOD!!!!! Dark Cloud 2!! One of the best RPGs ever made!

  • Victor Black

    Dark Cloud 2 is great game, however music in this game is horrible. Damn, why so great game has so worst cheap music?

    • kenshee

      I remember buying the game for myself after borrowing it from a friend because I liked (certain) pieces of the music so much lol.

      Well not only that, but music popping back into my head has driven me to buy many games I never ‘had’ to. lol.

      Could just be because I was a kid though, I don’t remember anything about the music now…

  • Lansou Everett

    Man, i really hope we are someday getting an HD collection of Dark Cloud, Dark Chronicle and the one and only, Rogue Galaxy. I’d pay $200 for *that* remaster.

    • Victor Black


      • Lansou Everett

        I don’t really fancy downloading illegal ROMs and emulators and BIOS to play that.

        • Tilia

          First, emulators aren’t illegal. Second, you know you can actually buy Dark Could 2 ? http://www.ebay.com/sch/ctg/Dark-Cloud-2-Sony-PlayStation-2-2003-/9304
          You can directly play PS2 DVD with emulators or rip it to ISO.

          • Lansou Everett

            BIOS tho are completely illegal unless you own that console. And it doesn’t seem very efficient to buy a game on ebay, rip its ROM, download an emulator, attach illegal BIOS, then run the same exact game.

            • Ryan Gunn

              Apparently, per his previous message, everything you just said is unnecessary. He said you can put the DVD in your computer and play it normally with the emulator.

              Though I agree, rather pointless unless your PS2 died. Not too easy to find a new one or a gen1 PS3.

              • Lansou Everett

                You do realize that an emulator will not work without BIOS, which are illegal unless you actually own the PS2, right? And if i do own a PS2, emulating them in their original form is just useless

                • Tilia

                  Wow, you seem really clueless about emulation mate. The whole point of emulating is to enhance the GFX.

                  Check this FFXII screenshot for example and it’s far from being the best example of how better the game will look, it’s just the first I found on google :P

                  You can add all sorts of post process effects as well, really night and day difference between the original on PS2 and the Emulated one.

                  Another game that looks a lot better emualated, Xenoblade:

                  • Lansou Everett

                    I really am clueless about this whole PC wizardry stuff. Way too complicated for me. Those FFXII (most underrated masterpiece of all time btw) screenshots don’t really look that much better tho.

                • Ryan Gunn

                  Riight, I was talking about the ripping and whatnot. And as I said, it’s all pointless unless your PS2 died, because it’s a hassle to find a PS2 or first generation PS3. And not worth the money, in my opinion. Otherwise, just use the PS2.

  • ZHZ90

    Dark Cloud 2 and Ape Escape 2 please Sony and Level 5.
    Also a new Dark Cloud and Ape Escape.

    • Shane Herbert

      1000 times yes on both counts.

  • ayanami-chan

    Dark Coud 2 you say?

  • DanielGearSolid

    That screenshot just overloaded my nostalgia meter

  • Mikail

    That’s mean Dark Cloud 3 and Ape Escape 3 are probably under development…………………….let’s pray

    • Darian Ball

      Ape escape 3 is already a thing

      • yellowmage

        Yes, and it’s much better than AE2. Too bad there wasn’t a proper AE game for PS3.

        • Brian Johnson

          ape escape 3 had better gameplay and better extras sure but ape escape 2 had better story and jimmy and pipochi had a much better character design then kei.

          • yellowmage

            Jimmy was just a poor man’s Spike.

  • Jaing

    Wow, I really hope this actually happens! I’d love to play Dark Cloud 2 again AND if they are digging out older PS2-era Level-5 games, bring on Rogue Galaxy!

    • JoJo_649

      Indeed, they should also bring the PS2 Wild Arms and Okage Shadow King!

  • Guernica

    AH! Yes please! I love Dark Cloud 2!

  • Ryan Gunn

    Eh… TM:B was very disturbing, I found. Every single player story line was just… Yeah.

  • Snitch Ass Nigga

    damn i wish ps2 classics were on the vita i dont know how they would do it lol but still

  • Orko

    I hope this is a sign digital PS1 and/or PS2 classics are finally coming to PS4. And cross buy/play, not that ps now bullshit. Digital PS1 classics are currently cross buy/play on PSP, Vita, and PS3, but not PS4.

    • Soda Popinski

      Exactly. Cross buy is a must. I’m not paying to RENT ps2 games I already purchased digitally via PSN on ps3. Or PS1 classics I bought via PSN and cross buy/play on PSP, Vita, and PS3.

  • 12Stepper4Life

    Game, Set and Match Sony. If Sony makes PS1 and PS2 games available to PS4 and with PS now offering PS3 games to PS4. Then Sony factually have best lineup of games for PS4. Certainly will HELP Sony with the recent hard hitting blow of BC on X1.

    • http://E-mpire.com/ Omnistalgic

      PS2 has over 1800 titles, so yeah, it would be huge for Sony to add BC to PS4, but the best would be disc based emulation as well as PSN downloads. There aren’t nearly as many PS2 titles on PSN as there are disc.

      • 12Stepper4Life

        Well obviously yes ofcourse, just don’t honestly see that happening though…unfortunately

  • EventuallyGreat

    Sony is sitting on a goldmine with their backlog of PS2 games. I’d even pay for disc based backwards compatibility

  • Firion Hope

    Dear god please be true

    • Living Dead Girl

      Calm down.

  • Living Dead Girl

    Remasters rather than making a new game? Ugh.