Final Fantasy VII Remake won’t have new characters
posted on 06.23.15 at 09:50 AM EDT by (@salromano)
As it should be.

Final Fantasy VII Remake

Famitsu this week has an interview with Final Fantasy VII Remake director Tetsuya Nomura, who shares a few new details regarding the upcoming PlayStation 4 game.

Get the summary below.

Regarding the teaser trailer

Nomura: “We’re using part of that video in the game. We’re going to raise the quality even more.”

Regarding the choice of hardware

“You’ll be able to play it first on PlayStation 4, that’s for certain. We’re not thinking beyond that yet, so after that is undecided. Since we’re bringing out PlayStation 4 title after PlayStation 4 title, it’d be great if we can give the hardware and industry a boost.”

It’s not just an HD-ification, right?

Final Fantasy VII is special, and we can’t ‘exceed’ the game by simply making the graphics nicer. That’s not a thing to be excited about.

“Precisely because it’s a full remake, I want to challenge what’s fun and what’s possible now.”

Will the scenario change or new characters appear?

“There won’t be new characters. As for the visual taste, we’re doing them to match today’s visuals and appear closer to reality.”

Regarding the game system

“I can’t share details, but we’re changing it to a more realistic system.”

Thanks, Hachima Kikou.

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  • KingNigma

    who was expecting this

    • Bobby Jennings/Godless

      Someone in the deep depths of…

  • https://twitter.com/RyoonZ RyoonZ

    “You’ll be able to play it first on PlayStation 4, that’s for certain. We’re not thinking beyond that yet, so after that is undecided. Since we’re bringing out PlayStation 4 title after PlayStation 4 title, it’d be great if we can give the hardware and industry a boost.”

    Fanboy detected

    • Cute_shutin

      Now xbox fanboys will moan again

      • DarthBrian

        They’re getting KH3 and FFXV, they have nothing to complain about.

        • Shulk

          I figured there could be a possibility of it being probably PS4 exclusive?

          • DarthBrian

            FFVIIRe will be on PS4 and PC at the very least. Just like the original was on PS1 and PC.

            • Bobby Jennings/Godless

              It could be on Xbox One as well. You never know.

              All we know is

              SE needs and wants that Xbox money

              • DarthBrian

                And they’re getting it by selling out Tomb Raider for giant money hats. So cry me a river, Xbone owners, if FFVIIRe is only on PS4 and PC.

                • Bobby Jennings/Godless

                  So you’re blaming the fanbase for Tomb Raider exclusivity?

                  • DarthBrian

                    Blaming? No.

                    • Bobby Jennings/Godless

                      Oh okay. Just making sure.

              • PuppetMaster

                “SE needs and wants that Xbox money”

                I don’t think SE really need / wants Xbox money that bad.

                So far they didn’t bother to announced FF XIV, FF 7 remake, FF X/X-2 HD, SO 5, Nier 2, DQ Heroes, and World of FF for X1.

                They even didn’t port KH 1 & 2 remix for X1 despite they announced KH 3 for the console. And when we looked at FF Type-0 sales, X1 ver sold very horrible especially in japan.

                Talked about japan, X1 is practically dead. So far the console only sold like 20-30k and that’s not enough to sell games as big as FF 7.

                The only SE games that sold well for X1 are their western games like TR, Hitman, Deus Ex, and Sleeping Dog which is funnily some, if not all, are selling more on Playstation.

                So i cross my fingers for FF 7 remake on X1, especially when SE didn’t release the original ver for X1. But if turns out they released it than it’s good for X1 owners who loves JRPG’s :)

        • Zackasaur

          If KHIII and FFXV had started development a year ago instead of much longer ago, they’d probably be PS4-only as well. lol

    • Reda

      Lol, he always sides with playstation:p

    • DarthBrian

      He’s talking about the Japanese industry, fyi.

    • Cazar

      When Japanese developers say this, they’re referring to the slow transition of the PS3 to the PS4. PS4 is next gen to them. Xbox and PC are irrelevant in Japan.

  • Last Wind

    “We’re changing it to a more realistic system”

    action oriented confirmed?

    • Kenny

      With Nomura style, i think so

    • Maximillian Caxton

      I hope…

      old fans might be disappointed though. lol

    • Rayhan PromisedGallery

      i can’t wait to hear internet fills with rage then

      • Bobby Jennings/Godless

        Why do you want RAGE D:

    • Phelan

      Pretty much yeah :/

    • PuppetMaster

      It could still turn-based but more seamless battle without changing screens and more attack animation and such.

      • Phelan

        True.

        It’s best decision to wait and see. But than again we can always assume what he meant by saying realistic. Will those assumption turn out to be correct, dunno.

    • Bobby Jennings/Godless

      Not really.

  • Rayhan PromisedGallery

    Can Genesis be counted as new character?
    Wonder if he means totally new, or just new to the original main FF7

    • Bobby Jennings/Godless

      New to the original definitely.

  • dark-kyon

    Good,not lighting then,crisis averted.

    • Cute_shutin

      And then they add a new scenario were cloud found a baby and named it lighning xD

      • kao

        oh god, that sounds even worse than some fanfiction but if Toriyama got his hands on this he’d find a way to force his precious lightning in there..

  • Chaos King

    Too many moments I would like to relieve in this remake, such as:

    1) Battle against Rufus
    2) Escape from the Turks with Aerith
    3) The death of a very important character
    4) The possession of Cloud
    5) Battle against Jenova
    6) Battle against the Turks

    Final Fantasy VII is a very special game to me, and I hope Square Enix will do an excellent job in remaking it.

    • Bart Fatima

      Precious moments

    • Staz

      uuumm the gigantic serpent lurking on the lake? i was always terrified by it, me avoiding at all cost…that was years ago…

      • Bobby Jennings/Godless

        Good times man. Good times.

    • Cute_shutin

      Weres the genderbend scene?

    • Phelan

      I hope that they will keep famous banter between Tifa and Vincent. Ya know after you met Vincent in Nibelheim and he just starts talking about his tragic life…

      and than Tifa just “So the punishment was sleep? That’s weird”

      That alone…I can’t wait to hear JP dub for that line. That was so Tifa-like. Although rest of party had similar reaction… but I want to hear her :P

  • swiss

    nice

  • Renaldi Saputra

    so, no Zack?

    • Cute_shutin

      Zack is dead

      • Phelan

        That’s some massive spoiler man.

        (I’ kidding)

        • Cute_shutin

          That game is like 6 yrs old xD

          • Phelan

            No no! It still is spoiler :P

            Just as **** death and being skewered on sword. And ***** being a wuss and sissy who got did things for his mommy. And… and… EVERYTHIG IS SPOILER. All my memories are spoilers.

            Well his death was already shown in original FF VII and that means…. it’s like 18 years ago :)

            • Cute_shutin

              Yeah

          • Bobby Jennings/Godless

            Still spoilers :P

      • Renaldi Saputra

        I knew, but who knows they included Crisis Core before Cloud’s story

        • Cute_shutin

          Maybe flashbacks like ff ac

        • Cute_shutin

          Also they are planning for hd of CC.i hope its true ●︿●

      • https://twitter.com/RyoonZ RyoonZ

        Why

        • Cute_shutin

          Because he became a hero also its because of bloned emo guy

          • https://twitter.com/RyoonZ RyoonZ

            Actually I’m referencing the ending theme of Crisis Core :p

            • Cute_shutin

              Oh i love that song also price of freedom

  • https://twitter.com/RyoonZ RyoonZ

    This E3 SE basically.

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  • Shulk

    well by not including new characters its for the best. SE isn’t pulling a Bamco like they sometimes do with a remake of some “Tales of” games.

    • Zackasaur

      SE rightfully respect their game too much to change something so integral as the characters. c:

      But I am definitely glad that they’re using the opportunity to do more than just redo graphics.

    • Bobby Jennings/Godless

      What do you mean?

  • Bart Fatima

    The other day I sat home just reminiscing on Final Fantasy VII. I have yet played a game with such an exciting beginning. The entire Midgar part is legendary. This game means so much for so many people, it is part of my childhood.

    • rockman29

      i made a 1440p walkthrough of the entire midgar area + nibelheim flashback + ______ death scene if you’re interested, share if you like :D

      https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY5_ZWM9TWPeby93laU1oGd_vRVTqy0bb

      and I agree, the Midgar section was legendary, absolutely

      the funny thing is most of it was made by a single person making a bunch of sidequest stuff

      it’s about 5 hours long I think, did all the exploring in wall market for example

      • Bart Fatima

        I sure will, highly impressive.

  • Bart Fatima

    japan needs the boost in PS4 sales

  • Phelan

    “I can’t share details, but we’re changing it to a more realistic system.”

    Ow well than I’m going to stay with the original verrsion. Realistic system pretty much confirms that they are making action game… in best scenario action RPG.

    Not interested in that.

    • PuppetMaster

      Maybe you should hold your horses until they showed what exactly the battle system is.

      • Phelan

        Oh I am holding horses.

        It would be silly to decide whether to buy game or not before even seeing game-trailer.

        But if they will make action RPG than I’m going to pass. Not interested in seeing beloved jrpg turned to action RPG. Of course everyone can have his or her opinions.

        • cclp

          Personally, I doubt that they would go full action RPG. I anticipate some sort of hybrid system.

          I think they should make it so you can toggle between whatever the new system is and a command/turn-based one. They did that in Dissidia, after all.

          • Phelan

            Dunno. We shall see.

            But if it will end up with battle system similar to FF XV than I’m not interested. CSB is the most “realistic” system I’m willing to accept… although I didn’t like it.

            But hey, I’m not stoping anyone from wanting action RPG. I’m just saying that I’m not interested in that kind of games. FF for me always meant jRPG… to the point that the last true FF I love is FF XII. And by XII I mean Lost Odyssey :P

            So yeah… that’s just my personal opinion.

        • PuppetMaster

          I don’t think they will turn it as a complete action RPG.

          Like i said down there, they can still used turn-based but make it more seamless without changing screen, no random battles / the enemy appears in the field, more attack variation, and such that make it more dated or like they said “realistic” rather than the old stuff like walk for 1-2 steps, changing screens for battle, choose command attack, one character jumping in front of the enemies and slash the enemies, jumping back again, repeat.

          We already see hybrid turn based like that in Valkyria Chronicles, Resonance of Fate, or Ni no Kuni and all of them plays really well. If Nomura will do like that than personally i don’t have any worries.

    • John

      “Realistic system pretty much confirms that they are making action game”

      Not really. No

    • Zackasaur

      I would be VERY interested in that… :3

      But I’m excited no matter what system they determine is best. They’re masters of the craft, and you know they’ve done more extensive deliberating, surveying, testing, etc. than we will ever get the chance to see.

    • Saddio

      The question that should be asked is “what FF is realistic?” That’s a bullshit statement they made. ATB in active mode, all it needs.

      • Phelan

        ATB would be great… huh… one can always dream and hope

      • Zackasaur

        Realism is a spectrum, not a binary.

        • Saddio

          Definitely. But in this case, it will never be realistic. So it’s a binary in that regard. Summons don’t exist, neither does magic. And the list goes on. The world of FFVII is fine where it is, doesn’t need more “realism” in that sense. If he meant it referring to animation, then that’s a different story.

          • Zackasaur

            No, it’s not a binary. Nomura never said they’re creating a military shooter instead of a Final Fantasy game. Let’s not be crazy.

            He said that the visuals are being given a more realistic style. And that’s 100% true, when you compare the E3 trailer to the PS1 game. lol

            The visuals and animation are being made more realistic. The actual universe and characters aren’t changing at all. This is the same story as before.

            • Saddio

              My mistake. It is referring to visuals. I thought it was a general comment for some reason, which is why I mentioned ATB in my previous post. I’m not against more realistic visuals.

              • Zackasaur

                Ah, understood. No worries. c:

  • Kaga
    • Phelan

      Brillliant.

    • Cute_shutin

      Id pay more than that

    • Noctis Pendragon

      That DLC could change a part of the game so why not …

    • sokumo tanaka

      dlc seems like a good idea, I just hope A.) they don’t make them overpriced (Outfits should be 10$ if not a bit less and since ff7 has so many mini games and secrets just some old school unlockable weapons and outfits would be cool as well. (Or maybe you can win some from the prize grabber claw machine whatever.) and B.) put effort into it. All the ff AC outfits and aerith/aeris’s K.H 2 outfit, the many outfits cloud had to wear like the dress and the soldier outfit, maybe the stuffed cait sith lulu doll could be one of cait sith’s outfits cloud’s dissidia 012 outfit sephiroth’s a zack skin etc and this could make replays funny especially if there’s a possible new game plus where at least the outfits would carry over. (So you can watch cloud jump off the train in a dress or barret in a sailor suit)

  • new_tradition

    So no compilation cameos? Awww…

    • Bobby Jennings/Godless

      Most of em are in the game in some form.

  • kao

    ok, what do fans of the original ff7 even want, just an HD-ification with an outdated battle system or an all new modern battle system(even if it has some arpg elements) because it seems like they’re really gonna have to walk on eggshells not to piss anyone off.

    • LordKaiser

      Just that it’s turn based no mater what kind of turn base system but one that don’t use AI. And keep the materia system. They can change everything else.

      • rockman29

        it’s not turned based, it’s ATB (active time battle)

        the “wait” mode is kind of turn-based but not fully, still time based

        there are 3 modes in FF7: active, recommended (mixed), and wait mode

        • LordKaiser

          ATB is still turn based. Monsterns turns are set up by a timer that dictacte their turn to act with the difference that they don’t wait for you to select your action. Each playable character also has it’s timer. They’re still taking turns.

          • rockman29

            it’s almost the same, but not quite, similar yes, not the same though

            in true turn based your turn is not skipped if you don’t input your commands (same as Wait mode in FF7)

            they share elements with one another, and ATB yes is based off turn based, but it’s still different enough to call it ATB as its own thing

            • LordKaiser

              Alright wathever, I don’t care abouth the technical bs. My point is that the system is menu based and that none of the characters are controlled by AI.

    • Bobby Jennings/Godless

      There are three different districts of fans that want something different from the remake.

      Some want the same game in a new coat of paint.

      Some want a Action RPG like system

      Some will take either one.

      I’m witht he latter honestly. I’ll take either one, turn based or not.

      • kao

        well, as long as it’s not like 13’s system, I’m fine with anything..

    • rockman29

      there is a lot of opportunity to have both

      kind of like how ff x-2 changed the ff x system

      it went from turn based to ATB/arena style

      there are also systems like Skies of Arcadia which are arena style, but turn based

      there’s tons of combinations of styles.

      but the most important thing for me are 1) full party control 2) materia system 3) similar equipment management 4) similar item options

      they can play with the systems, but do not take away freedom and options from the player, that is a lot of what made FF7 and many FF games so great

      • kao

        Yeah, I hope they keep all of those mechanics too, there are many possibilities for the new system it’s just the purist that will never be satisfied and are better off just replaying the ps1 version.

        • rockman29

          there will definitely be people calling foul no matter what they do

          but what the rest of us should be looking for is just a great battle system that honours the original while offering something modern

          doesn’t mean it has to be action, doesnt mean it has to be ATB

          but something that offers players the same kind of great customization and management that the original did back in 1997

          even if they make something one doesn’t like, like you said, there is always the original

          P.S.

          I forgot to mention number 5) summons :P

  • Rayhan PromisedGallery

    I hope it will be action-based game just because i want to see the internet filled with fanbase rage

    • Bobby Jennings/Godless

      Action based isn’t essentially bad. If anyone can make it happen, it’s Nomura.

      • Rayhan PromisedGallery

        the “original game” purist will still be mad

      • LordKaiser

        But there’s too many ARPGs now or AI using RPGs likevthe Tales series. I need a RPG to relax.

  • Noctis Pendragon

    What do they mena by realistic graphics ? No UE4 please .

    • Zackasaur

      1. UE4 is a sexy-ass engine that can do just about anything. It’s not the mess that UE3 was. See: Kingdom Hearts III

      2. We already saw the more “realistic” look in the trailer. It will look like that. Kind of like Advent Children.

      • Noctis Pendragon

        1. How is KH IIII looking realistic ? Do you have a link to an UE4 ps4 game that looks really good ?

        2.Those kind of graphics won’t be hit with UE4 , unless they are working extremly close with Epic games .

        • Zackasaur

          1. When did I ever say KHIII looks realistic? If you have been following the game, you know that Nomura’s team developed a specific shader called Kingdom Shader and applied that to UE4. UE4 isn’t some closed engine… It can be applied to ANY art style in the known universe. 2D. 3D. Cel-shaded. Hyper-realistic. Balloon animals. You can do whatever the hell you want with it.

          2. UE4 is relatively new, so a lot of games today are still using a sort of UE3.5, unfortunately. But Batman: Arkham Knight just released on a UE3.5 sort of engine. As for UE4, three PS4 games off the top of my head that are in development are KHIII, Eve Valkyrie (you can look up footage; it’s a space sim), and Shenmue III.

          3. The kind of graphics seen in the FFVII Remake trailer would very much be possible in UE4. Every kind of graphics can be done in UE4. The engine does not govern the shaders and art direction.

          4. Nomura is in fact the single biggest partner/catch Epic have gotten with UE4, by far. As a result, KHIII has become a poster child for their engine. Nomura has confirmed that he is working closely with Epic and is able to get them to do things for him whenever he needs it. So if there is ever any problem or lacking thing, he just tells them and gets it resolved.

          5. With all of this, I’m not saying that UE4 is the engine for FFVII Remake. But I’m pointing out that it would be perfectly viable in every regard.

          • Noctis Pendragon

            1. I mean i don’t see how looking at KH 3 could help me to see what FF VII would look like .

            2 to 5 . Well i’ll wait for an UE4 game which close to FF VII fidelity .

            • Zackasaur

              Why would you need to do that? We already saw how FFVII Remake looks. We got a trailer! THAT is the more realistic style. You can go rewatch that. xD I’m bringing up KHIII just to demonstrate that UE4 is a fantastic and versatile engine for developers.

              • Noctis Pendragon

                The trailler is CGI it doesn’t tell me anything about UE4 , you could have said Fox Engine it would be the same .

                • Zackasaur

                  Why would SE contract Fox Engine? Plus, we’ve seen UE4 do more impressive things, so I’d call that the safer bet anyway. :P

                  Nomura literally just said that the trailer we saw is being used for the actual game. It’s in the article. They’re not going to radically change art styles between gameplay and cutscenes.

                  That is the art direction of this remake.

                  • Noctis Pendragon

                    Yeah the game will surly look like the trailler , but what tells you it is UE4 ?

                    • Budgiecat

                      I dont know why you guys brought up UE4. I guess because Luminous isnt dont and Nomura switched from it to UE4 for KH III.
                      But we dont even know what team is handling this yet.

                    • Noctis Pendragon

                      Maybe they are going to use pre-rendered background , so tons of power left for the characters and animations , like that it would look on par with reality (^.^) .

                    • rockman29

                      the trailer was just FMV, it doesn’t indicate what engine they are using

                      im happy with anything as long as it looks and performs well

                    • Kenny

                      I miss pre-rendered background game, i would like that lol

                    • Zackasaur

                      I never said it is UE4. I think I’ve been rather clear about that!

                      You brought up UE4, and I’m just mentioning that it would be perfectly viable. I didn’t say it would be done. I’m not brazen enough to hazard a guess at their engine. But if they announced UE4 tomorrow, I would have nothing to say but “great!” And if they announce something alternative, I’m sure they have good reasons.

                    • Noctis Pendragon

                      I know but like i see i’ll wait and see what UE4 game will look like that .

      • rockman29

        i was very impressed with KH3, really channels the same visuals as the first two games easily

        UE4 is definitely impressive, it’s literally saving Japan

        Even Street Fighter V looks just fantastic, the shaders, lighting…. even the cloth physics on M. Bison are amazing

        I think it is highly related to the workflow they have employed

        they have made it super easy to make physically based shaders and lighting, i think this is what makes it easy to stylize the visuals to whatever the developers want

        • Zackasaur

          Very much agreed! The engine’s utilisation for KHIII has really blown me away. And since Epic are working closely with Nomura, you know that the engine’s forward development is taking into account the right kinds of developer experiences and needs.

          And I had forgotten about Street Fighter V when I was thinking of good examples! Yeah, I really love how far those visuals have leapt above those of SFIV.

          While I was a UE3 naysayer because it had some notable flaws and a problem with making many games look too similar, UE4 has been specifically built to address all of that. And it really shows, because it might just be the most versatile engine there is. Proprietary engines can still have their strengths, of course. But they’re not typically versatile.

          • rockman29

            i just hope using UE4 finally means we get these games in a timely manner

            according to what I read elsewhere (mainly NeoGAF), SE is finally prioritizing workflow and efficiency

            in the PS3 generation their workflow and pipeline was definitely not efficient, so this is a massive turnaround to start using something efficient like UE4

            so hopefully that means projects move out the door, so they can get sales, and hopefully translate into more games, and even different and new games too

            the biggest cost with this new hardware is clearly developing high quality assets…. textures, shaders, audio, animations, etc…. so any optimization here is welcome

            • Zackasaur

              Oh, they’re definitely prioritising workflow and efficiency, as well as giving their developers more freedom to control and start their own projects.

              Last gen, they were obsessed with building their own engines as a way to sort of take over the gaming industry. But their engines never worked right, so everything they were doing would end up broken and stuck in development hell. Everything took extremely long to do and required dramatic hurdles. And as a result, other teams would get pulled off their own projects to help finish whatever was coming next. The Versus XIII team were disbanded multiple times for this reason, as they were required to help fix FFXIII so that it could release and then to help make FFXIV 2.0 after the 1.0 debacle.

              Needless to say, it was a mess! I still need to respond to a previous reply you made to me in another discussion, but we’re actually kind of touching on the topic of their executive restructuring right now. They changed a lot of roles, got a new CEO, restructured their dev teams, created new pathways to second-party partnerships, fused the Luminous team with the FFXV team, and much more all at once. Both from the inside and from the outside, today’s SE and yesterday’s SE are hardly recognisable as the same company. And that’s a very good thing. Just look at the crazy wealth of content they’re suddenly bringing to the table. And all of these projects seem to be making rather incredible progress in comparatively little time.

              Square Enix have always been fantastic at creating high quality assets. In fact, I would personally argue that t hey’re the best in the entire industry! But there certainly isn’t an argument that they’re one of the best. The problem was that they would create all of these utterly incredible assets and then have an incredibly difficult time actually composing them into a video game. With their new workflow, they can actually seize upon those skills and assets and turn them into games that we can play.

  • Rayhan PromisedGallery
    • Zackasaur

      Flashbacks~

      • Noctis Pendragon

        Playable flash back would be great .

    • Noctis Pendragon

      I love you .

    • Phelan

      Pfff…

      http://i.ytimg.com/vi/x-pAMCwleLA/hqdefault.jpg

      that was better :P I mean come on! That facial expression when he was dying! That was SUPERB!

    • Solomon_Kano

      Why wouldn’t we? They said no new characters… and he’s from the original game.

  • Cocteau

    This game won’t be turn-based.

    • Rayhan PromisedGallery

      hopefully. Because because i want to see the internet filled with fanbase rage

    • NEKO WORKING

      Who cares?

      • Cocteau

        Idc as long as the battle system is fun, but what kind of question is that? lol

        A lot of people seem to care.

        • NEKO WORKING

          lol purist.

          • Cocteau

            Me? hardly… the first one I played was VI.

            • NEKO WORKING

              no no, i meant those who care enough to complains about the battle system

              • Saddio

                God forbid anyone would prefer to see a treasured classic, when reimagined, remain true to its original. What an absurd idea. Especially when they’ve been asking for years. How dare they~

                • Zackasaur

                  “When reimagined.” It’s in your own text, mate.

                  And these are the devs who made FFVII. If all they were doing was some graphical overhaul, they could have contracted any number of other studios to do this. They’re doing it themselves because, with the PS4, they’re given the chance to revisit their own work and do the things that are possible now that they would have wanted to do then.

                  This is their chance to reimagine FFVII, indeed. And the old version isn’t going anywhere.

                  • NEKO WORKING

                    Exactly, just like how they outsourced FFX and X-2

                  • Saddio

                    It can be reimagined without betraying the original. I never suggested they shouldn’t try to accomplish now what they couldn’t then. But to give a better example, if you take a turn based game and make it into anything beyond a turn based hybrid (ATB active time), it becomes a different game entirely. This isn’t FFVII-2, it’s FFVII.

                    • Zackasaur

                      It does not become a different game entirely. It becomes a reimagining of the same game. It’s the same world, story, characters, etc. But they have the chance to redo visuals, writing, music, gameplay systems, menus, and whatever else they want to be something closer to what they want. They’re remaking FFVII on dramatically superior hardware, after all.

                      It wouldn’t be a betrayal of the original. This game is from the same lead developers who worked on that project. If you believe in artistic integrity, then you have to believe in letting the artists treat their project the way they see fit. We have no idea what kind of game FFVII would have been if it hadn’t been limited by its hardware and time, after all.

                      And, as said many times, the old FFVII has been/is being remastered anyway. It’s not being erased from history.

                    • Budgiecat

                      missing Sakaguchi

                    • Zackasaur

                      Nah, he has been long overshadowed. lol

                      Just compare Mistwalker to what we’re seeing out of post-executive restructuring SE.

                      While he’s certainly a lot better and more relevant than Miyamoto is, I think they both share something in common as having been unable to really keep up with the rapid progress of game development.

                    • Budgiecat

                      Im not talking about your opinion on him, I’m talking the fact he was one of the lead developers of FF VII.

                    • Zackasaur

                      Oh. Eh, that was around when you really started to see his influence waning. And, considering how he is now, I’m quite glad he’s not involved. lol

                    • Budgiecat

                      On one hand I really dont appreciate your disrespectful tone of the Gooch, thats just cause for gettin’ teh slaps…
                      on the other hand, he’s been making mobile games…

                      so I’m torn..

                    • Zackasaur

                      lulz

                      I’m torn, too. I adore his legacy. I guess I wish he’d just… Stopped.

                    • Saddio

                      You’re being verbose unnecessarily while tossing out things I never suggested. I gave a specific example. I’m not against adding elements to gameplay mechanics or anything else you mentioned for whatever reason. I’m against changing the core gameplay from turned based/hybrid > ARPG or anything else. In that sense, it becomes a different game entirely and betrays the original. That would be as radical as changing FFT to an ARPG. No thanks

                    • Zackasaur

                      Your accusation there is so false as to not make any sense at all. lol I wasn’t particularly verbose, nor did I go outside if your suggestions about purity.

                      It really wouldn’t be as radical as making FFT an action RPG, actually. FFT was defined by its gameplay, being a project in which all aspects (the name included) were spawned from the idea of creating an SRPG with armies at a FF level of quality. Meanwhile, FFVII was defined by its story, world, and characters. It’s combat was a convenience thrown into an otherwise complete idea, because that was just how they made games back then. Change the gameplay of FFT, and you get a totally different thing. Change the gameplay of FFVII to one more like its own cinematics, and all you get is the version of FFVII people were imagining while they were selecting menu options in turns.

                      I’m not even saying they WILL be doing this… Just that it’s perfectly reasonable if they do.

                      It’s fine if you don’t ~like~ that. I’m not here to govern what you want to play. But don’t pretend that this is anything but that.

                    • Saddio

                      That’s not an accusation, it’s a fact. I never mentioned or implied quite a few of the things you brought up. You’re making a lot of assumptions, and this is just a waste of time. Lastly, you seem to speak as if you’re an authority on the perspective of the various people who played these games. You’re not (neither am I). I loved the battle system in FFVII, and there are quite a few who feel the way I do. Don’t tell me or anyone else what defines what. It varies.

                • Manny Being Manny

                  Exactly. Almost any classic game being remade as a different genre would cause old school fans to riot. Unfortunately it just seems like people don’t like turn-based RPGs as much as they did in the 90s so many people seem ok with it.

                  It reminds me of Lufia 2s remake all over again. A near perfect turn based RPG turned into a beyond awful action RPG.

      • Rayhan PromisedGallery

        the nostalgia fans

      • Zackasaur

        Right? I’m excited to see how they can improve and modernise the game! It’s not like the old FFVII is disappearing. Hell, the remaster will be on PS4 this winter.

        • NEKO WORKING

          Hahaha.. right, btw whiners could just play the old PS1 version for the sake of purism :p

          • Zackasaur

            Yes, they can. c:

            It would be dumb for the FFVII developers to get to do a remake on PS4 and not be given the chance to revisit their own work and do new things today that just weren’t possible for them back then.

            It’s not like FFVII Remake is being made by new kids or a different studio… These are the people responsible for the original.

            And, as we’ve both stated, the PS1 game has also been remastered to preserve its legacy.

        • Budgiecat

          if theres no character switching it wont be an improvement…

          • Zackasaur

            Couldn’t care less. lol

            • Budgiecat

              So playing only as Cloud makes sense?? Thats pretty fucking stupid and will incite rage everywhere. Hopefully Nomura did not catch Tabata disease

          • Kenny

            ^This

      • Manny Being Manny

        People who like the FF series because of how it plays? I’m sure most people would be pissed off if their favorite games changed genre.

      • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

        If people are bitching about 15 wait till you see this game…lol

        • Budgiecat

          FF VII R to be a FPS where you only control Barrett confirmed

          (Red confirmed to be sole FF VII fan that is okay with it) :3

          • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

            I get flashbacks to dirge of cerberass…*shiver*

  • Anime10121

    I dont know whether to interpret this as no “real” new characters or no “characters from the compilation” making guest appearances (which would still technically be new characters to VII) :v

    • Solomon_Kano

      I took it as “we aren’t creating characters for this remake.” I’d be (pleasantly) surprised if they ignored the compilation’s expansion of VII’s world, especially since Nojima and Nomura had so much to do with it.

      • Anime10121

        If its the former… good, because the series doesnt really need MORE characters :/

        If its the latter….not so good, as this’d be the perfect time to make FFVII not feel like the odd man out of its own compilation :|

        • Solomon_Kano

          With the wide range of quality (from shit to pretty good) in the compilation, I’d rather they leave VII as unconnected to anything else as it was in 97.

          • Anime10121

            Only one I want it to connect to is Crisis Core… they can forget about the rest if they want… But I LOVED Crisis Core(‘s story >_>)

            But I’m guessing we’ve got a LONG wait ahead of this remake coming out anyway so I guess we’ll find out how much is incorporated/remains the same over the next 3-7 years >_>

            kidding… I HOPE this wont take longer than 3 or 4 at most

            • Solomon_Kano

              If they scrap Gackt, by all means, I’d be happy with Crisis Core’s inclusion. I liked the way they expanded on Zack’s character.

              I think the most we’ll wait is 3 years. Nomura’s comments in a prior interview seemed to indicate that they’ve actually begun work and, with Yasue more than capable of seeing KH3 (which is seeming nearer by the day) through to the end, I think this may go smoother than Nomura’s time in Versus did.

  • articuzwolf

    “I can’t share details, but we’re changing it to a more realistic system.”

    At least we know that they changed turn-based into something else, most likely close to KH action-oriented combats

    • Noctis Pendragon

      KH isn’t what i would call realistic gameplay …

      • Zackasaur

        Realism is a spectrum, not a binary.

        We already saw the FFVII Remake trailer… Cloud is still carrying an enormous Buster Sword, not a rifle or rapier. :P

        • Mighty Sam

          Yeah not swinging that huge sword yourself is a complete waste(especially if you’re a Musou fan)

      • articuzwolf

        Nope but way closer than waiting in turn to attack one by one

        • rockman29

          final fantasy X, and X-2 to further extent, used turn-based and active time battle modes and had characters blend their animations to attack pretty much at the same time, more so in X-2

          • articuzwolf

            I played those games…still waiting in turn

            Modern turn based would be like NinoKuni’s gameplay where you can run around dodging attacks while waiting for your turn (or maybe cooldown is more appropriate word) to come and Yours and Your opponent turn to attack can come at the same time

            • rockman29

              yes they still wait their turn, but it just shows there is a way to have party members attack at the same time even in turn-based, it’s not impossible

              basically kind of like ff 12, exactly what happens + ATB system

              as much as FF12 faltered in story, it has a fantastic combat system

              • articuzwolf

                No one saying it’s impossible
                You can create a human ladders in Disgaea and attacking as a ladder together in one turn…4 characters can use rush attack in Persona 4. You can summon a huge frickin Horse in FFX in expense of your party to do the attack for you

                Those are features to spice turn based system up while the essence of it are still waiting in turn to attack (even the monsters have to wait)

                Mind you that I’m not saying those games are bad (some are my favourite even)

                • rockman29

                  i was agreeing with you, they could do lots of things

                  just going to be a long and difficult wait until we see the battle system in action which is the only shame

            • Mighty Sam

              Something like the first Parasite Eve?

    • Manny Being Manny

      At least we have World of Final Fantasy since this game seems to be going the same direction as FF15

  • http://twitter.com/M_Demolish Demolish

    Why Do people spoil the story?

    • Rayhan PromisedGallery

      15 years old game, it’s bound to happen

      DBZ spoiler : Goku dies in the middle of the story

      • Phelan

        *18 years old game

        God damn it! Curse you for that spoiler! (joking)

        • Kiryu

          Here is another spoiler from the Titanic movie;the ship sinks.

          • Phelan

            argh… no… please stop… I can’t take it anymore

            final spoiler: people die

            9999 dmg

    • Zackasaur

      I am actually in agreement. Spoiler rules should be in effect here, just like they are supposed to be across the site.

      One of the points of this remake is to bring in new players, after all. Nomura himself has refused to address spoilery questions when asked, because he doesn’t want to be a part of ruining things for those new players.

    • Manny Being Manny

      The FF7 spoiler is pretty much the Darth Vader spoiler of video games. Sure its maybe a spoiler, but its pretty much common knowledge now.

      • Zackasaur

        While I know you’re talking about the meme… Demolish is actually talking about a pretty wide range of spoilers and not just that one.

        Still, I’m not sure it is wise to make any exceptions to the Gematsu spoiler rule. Why risk ruining things for others when we can just be decent and put up spoiler warnings?

        • rockman29

          yea for especially younger people who have no idea what FF7 is until now

          doesn’t hurt to employ spoiler rule, especially if we all know the spoilers anyway

          • Zackasaur

            Agreed. It’s not like it’s hard for us to just use the same spoiler guidelines we already use everywhere else on Gematsu.

        • Mighty Sam

          I just wanted some FFVII information 2 years ago before playing it and then went to Wikipedia and unfortunately a fucking idiot decided that it’s good to put the picture of Sephiroth killing Aerith in the Reception part and all along when I was playing FFVII I knew she was going to die and thus wasn’t shocked when the moment came.and because of that I didn’t become attached to her as I should have done.

          • Zackasaur

            Yep! See, I absolutely HATE spoilers and when people just throw them around frivolously, ruining things for other people and making it hard for them to become fans.

            Sometimes people take it for granted that we play these games and act like nobody else out there could possible be surprised by the. The people who think that way are absolutely incorrect and become internet jerks as a result.

    • zflorence1

      You mean a story thats been around for nearly 20 years with the majority of the time in the emergence of social internet? I have no idea…

      • zflorence1

        In all honesty I agree with your sentiment, but should people openly discussing a story thats been around for almost two decades be spanked on the rear?

        • KingNigma

          just put a warning lol such a simple solution

          • Budgiecat

            WARNING
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            (her name is Aerith, not Aeris)

            • KingNigma

              i never called her Aeris. sounded dumb tbh

          • zflorence1

            Touche’ – solution acknowledged.

  • Zackasaur

    Everything I am reading here sounds utterly fantastic! c:

    I have no worries about the direction of this game, considering the perfect staff. I really look forward to seeing the people who made the original FFVII get the chance to use the PS4 to make a game closer to what has been in their imaginations all these years.

  • CountTyranus

    Yes. Wonderful. Give me that real time battle system<3

    • Budgiecat

      better have character switching or else

      • rockman29

        why do you need character switching…. if we get full party control, no need for switching

        • Budgiecat

          wat

          if its real time action rpg…..how do you get full party control without character switching?

          • rockman29

            that’s “IF”

            we don’t know what the battle system is

            everything here is speculation right now

            ff12 was all real time ATB style but you had full party control there too, so obviously it’s not impossible to have real-time roaming RPG with full party control

            just because FF13 and 15 are one way, doesn’t mean it’s the only way

            • Budgiecat

              We were responding off of what CountTerrible said: he specifically said real time battle system. He didnt mention ATB.
              So to stay within context of what he said; thats why I responded that way.

              If you want to hypothesis some other possible method of battle engine, fine; but make your own original post about it, because what you just said has no relevance to what he originally posted.

              • rockman29

                he said realtime battle system, which could mean anything

                a realtime battle system does not need to sacrifice full party control, ff 12 is proof of that

                we’re just discussing, not having an argument, don’t get upset for no reason

                there was nothing out of context, don’t just get upset because I don’t agree 100% with you, that’s not what a discussion is about

                • Budgiecat

                  who said anything about upset. I know what he meant I seen him post before.
                  And FF 12 really isnt a good example either. Yes you could control other characters but the game (like FF XIII with it’s auto battles) basically hints that you’re better off just using Gambits and the gameplay overall was slow anyway which is the reason CountTerrible is even praying for a ‘real time battle system’ to begin with.

                  • rockman29

                    well then don’t tell other people what to and what not to post?

                    all i read was realtime, which could mean anything

                    any ATB system is realtime, which includes many of the FF games

                    im not a mind reader

                    • Budgiecat

                      You jumped in responding so dont expect it to be catered to you since I wasnt responding to you to begin with.

                    • rockman29

                      what do you mean “catered”

                      get over yourself, it’s just a discussion

                      you have some serious attitude problem

                    • Budgiecat

                      It means I knew what he meant because I know his posting methods. So I was directly responding to him not you. Not a hard concept to grasp here.

  • rockman29

    Thank you SPACE JEEBUS!

  • NEKO WORKING

    FF VII R with “realistic” system and WoFF with different twists of turn-based system. I’m very pleased.

    • Zackasaur

      We live in a new golden age. <3

    • Yuntu

      I wonder what he meant with “more realistic” the XV kinda thing with realism or what now?

      • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

        In the original, they just stand there and wait for their turn to attack, that’s not realistic.

        • Budgiecat

          Hey the British did it back in the day :p

        • Mighty Sam

          +100000 man I would love them making the gameplay like Kingdom Hearts or Crisis Core(with character switching and summons)

  • Budgiecat

    Yes

    Hopefully this means no stupid Genesis is mentioned….

  • http://resettears.wordpress.com/ Reset Tears

    No new characters? You mean no Shrek???

    • Zackasaur

      #ShrekforFFVII

    • NEKO WORKING

      Dammit no budgie then >_>

      • Budgiecat

        Im okay with it

        • NEKO WORKING

          #BudgieCostumeForCaitSith

        • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

          Maybe Reeves should join instead of Cait Sith #2 when the Sith dies. Dumb to replace him with himself. Cheapened the idea that he was making a sacrifice.

  • Sweet Lou Guarneri
  • rockman29
  • DHelel

    That’s it. Please don’t mess up with the story but i think they should add a choice for players to save Aerith
    If that really happen, it will be the most insane moment in RPG history XD

    • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

      Saving Aerith would change the story dramatically.

      • zflorence1

        Not only that but a great theme would be lost: that through the circle of life the dead can still be with us and effect the living in a positive way.

        • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

          Yeah and the stuff that the cast mentally deals with after too.

      • DHelel

        You get one point but anything could happen. Perhaps they can make her alive without changing the core of story and I will be cool with whatever they bring to us

    • zflorence1

      If Aerith lives then how do you suppose she saves the planet from inside the life stream against meteor at the end?

      • DHelel

        holy material if aerith still alive and sephiroth will find another way to destroy the world but the core of story still remains unchanged
        Well, I will figure the another way later :P

  • Solomon_Kano

    Not new… but count on at least one somebody from the Compilation appearing.

  • Rafael Martines

    So, Action RPG confirmed? o

  • Manny Being Manny

    Can’t wait to see this turn into a Cloud action game without any character switching. And then facepalm when people say that the combat system with mindless button mashing and no strategy is better then the old one.

  • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

    Why not have a new character join? Reno would be a good addition.

    • Manny Being Manny

      I don’t think he said anything about no new characters joining? Just that they weren’t adding any new characters to the game.

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        Oh ok. They don’t have to. But if they do I want Reno.

        • Bobby Jennings/Godless

          Reno’s in the game anyway so it’s not impossible.

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            True troo.

    • DonEmu

      Makes more sense to have us play some parts of the game from “The Turks” POV, as bonus quests.

    • Derp Minos

      They should have Priscilla join up. Token loli :^)

  • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

    Am I gonna have to see Hojo in his swimming trunk flirting with women in hd modern 3D now?!

    • rockman29

      *spoiler* he paid all of them probably

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        Yep. All he loves is science. Wouldn’t be surprised if they were his creations.

    • -Misaki-

      I wanna see Cloud crossdressing in HD and modern graphics.

      • Budgiecat

        They’ll just use a Lightning skin

        (jokes)

        • articuzwolf

          You just give them idea…Cloud in Lighting Costume DLC incoming

          • rockman29

            they could add a sidequest to get a “mask” that is lightning’s face

            OR like in the original…… you can get makeup on cloud (not a key item), and they could make the makeup like Lightning

            you get makeup in the honeybee manor, one of the bees will put it on you (the far left one)

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        I dont like that. Cloud’s cool. That moment wasn’t cool at all. But I guess it shows how hard he’ll fight for his allies.

      • Yuntu

        Well Nomura said to look forward to that scene. If they really put it in there the way it was in the original … damn I want that.

    • KingNigma

      you almost sound disappointed

  • Red

    “We’re not thinking beyond that yet, so after that is undecided. ”

    Something something there’s a chance.gif

    But nah, PS4 only is fine with me. Sony would be smart to lock this shit down.

  • zflorence1

    Please stop to those who are asking for Aerith to live… if that is your big request then you have missed the entire plot and theme of the game.

    • Guy Incognito

      If that’s what people want that’s what they should get. They just stole that whole plot point from Phantasy Star II anyway

      • zflorence1

        Sometimes people ask for things for which the repercussions remain obscure. Suppose Gollum had lived in LOTR and not fallen with the ring, then not only is the message lost but the entire ending would have been different.

        • Guy Incognito

          I say let square go all Rebuild of Evangelion on FFVII

          • zflorence1

            I understand your reasoning, but the animation in the original Evangelion would probably not keep newer fans from engaging it. FF7 on the other hand shows its age clearly; I would be happy if a new generation could experience the same story or at least something very similar.

            • Guy Incognito

              FF7 hasn’t aged well. I didn’t play it with Nostalgia goggles on and I saw a very tired cliche RPG

    • zflorence1

      That was not meant to be condescending… but seriously go back and re-visit the games story or google her death in connection with the saving of the planet plus the games theme in relation to Sakaguchi’s loss of his mother in real life.

  • -Misaki-

    Incoming QTE everything!

    Nah seriously, this is one of the times that can be counted on fingers of 1 hand when I felt this much hyped, please SE do this right, me believe in you!

    • Budgiecat

      If CC2 is the rumored dev team…I would not be surprised :p

      • Himiko

        They’re rumored to have part of the project outsourced. I hope they do the motorcycle scene after G-Bike lol.

        • Budgiecat

          as a lame Infinite runner? no thanks lol

          • Himiko

            Not in that sense lol. Obviously it’d be more than what the mobile game was, but the style of it all was pretty cool.

      • vishmarx

        SE is know they cant f*** this up.everything depends on it.
        and given the fact that the new ceo has shown signs of having some sense in his brain , i have faith in them to some capacity.
        infact 1 platform only development is a big plus already

        • Yuntu

          Yeah, it helps optimizing the games.

  • crazyhunter

    Why not new characters? I want cisnei damn it

  • DarthBrian

    ATTN: People who are moaning and crying about the “play it first on PS4” issue. Get over it. Microsoft most likely paid Square-Enix a giant shit-ton of money to get timed exclusivity for Tomb Raider. When they announced it they implied it was a forever exclusive and didn’t clarify until journalists were hounding them for clarification.

    At least this time Square/Sony are “play it first on PS4” implying that yes, it will indeed be coming to other platforms, so don’t get your panties in a bunch.

    Personally, I think those other platforms are PC and only PC due to buzz I’m hearing from people in the know. That frankly wouldn’t surprise me since FFVII was released on PS1 first and a year later came out on PC. I’m sure they’re doing the same thing except PC owners won’t have to wait a year this time.

    I seriously doubt this game is coming to Xbox One. And that really shouldn’t be a big deal. Xbox One is getting FFXV and Kingdom Hearts III. Xbox has no reason whatsoever to get Kingdom Hearts III. So far not a single entry of the franchise has been on a Microsoft platform. Does Square actually expect a significant amount of people to buy the game on Xbox One versus PlayStation 4? If so, they are dumb. People who have played the Kingdom Hearts series in the past are either PlayStation or Nintendo owners.

    So cry me a river, Xbox fans. Final Fantasy Versus XIII was put on hold because of the Final Fantasy XIII money hat for 360. The 360 port required extra people so they pulled them from the Versus XIII team. And now that game, retitled Final Fantasy XV, is going to be a shell of its former self *story-wise* because of the change in director and title. So boo-fucking-hoo. Deal with it.

    Thanks. >_>

    • Budgiecat

      Where was this post warranted? I saw no whining of wanting an XB1 version….

      • DarthBrian

        It wasn’t targetted towards anyone specific, just the general milieu of idiots posting about this crap on the internet. >_>

        • Budgiecat

          But they’re not here.

          • DarthBrian

            Well, I can’t post where they’re at. <_<

      • vishmarx

        true. cod dlc is what they want

      • ayanami-chan

        Other sites, this site is pretty well behaved.

    • 20CHAMP1ON14

      Truly if MS wants to compete with Sony on their “RPG” turf – there lineup is almost impeccible, however, if they grabbed Shadow Hearts with a rad story and beefed up their version of an “ATB” active time battle system they might actually have a chance FYI! Otherwise we might as well all throw in the towel to Sony when it comes to those role-playing whatever those addicting time consumers.

  • vishmarx

    10 bucks say people still expect it to come to xbox

    • Sion12

      in this day and age? i wont be surprise if it come out on pc albeit late

      • rockman29

        why shouldnt it come to PC?

        i think that is all but guaranteed at this point

        and i doubt it will really hurt the game if it comes to Xbone after either

        • Bebop

          This is a competitive move…they want to boost ps4 sales not,”console” sales the og was on PC so it should go to PC too, absolutely not on x1

          • Budgiecat

            boost PS4 sales “in Japan”
            Where XB1 is very much non existent and a lost cause anyway.
            PS4 meanwhile everywhere else is selling record breaking pace…

            • Bebop

              Exactly my brotha,this sounds like the og plan honestly

    • Bebop

      I just don’t understand the odd answers about it, make the thing fuqin exclusive then and say it, this tip toeing around the issue is stupid. Ether the publishing rights of the first one occur and Sonny has console exclusivity, or they don’t and its going everywhere but this vague answering is terrible

      • vishmarx

        i think theye being vague because thats how the deal is.
        i think theyve decided to develope it as a ps4 exclsuive and depending on the situation at its launch, it can go either way.
        ofc , xbox is still an impossibility

        • Bebop

          I can agree with that. It does sound like its just developing on ps4 and after, could be ported to PC…almost exactly how the og did

          • vishmarx

            and this is surprisingly on point with what kagari said day 1.
            ps4 only atm, no xbox , pc probably later on but nothing being discussed about it right now

            • Bebop

              I had strong belief that it won’t go to other consoles because of Sony having publishing rights in NA and EU, which is very important.Others seem to over look this but I can’t see getting around that with Sony. But alas we will see, it does sound like Kagari was legit

  • Heropon

    Perfect. That mean we won’t see any mention about Angeal , Genesis and expand role of zack right ? Those are horrible characters

    • ConfusedVelociraptor

      Boo! I don’t like your oppinion.

    • Bebop

      Zack? Horrible?? Bye bye

      • Heropon

        ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). Bye

    • rockman29

      i tried to watch Crisis Core on YT cutscenes so many time, and still can’t get over how cheesy all the Angeal and Genesis lines are….. so bad……

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        Genesis was a vain jealousy kuja type. And angeal was a strong valor focused big brother type. I don’t see their lines as misplaced or corny. They acted like what they were. Personally I liked Genesis quoting Loveless since it expanded on play only hinted at before.

        • rockman29

          i guess it just didnt click with me, or maybe i just have to play it myself, never had a PSP and the game is not available on PSN for Vita

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            It should be on psn by now. Shame they never did that. Yeah CC is good. But some people are just tired of ff7 or want the game to stop expanding.

          • Mighty Sam

            Hey man I don’t have a PSP either but I’m playing Crisis Core on PPSSPP emulator on my Galaxy S5 Duos and it’s completely smooth(without enhancements)if you have a smartphone or tablet with a Snapdragon 801 cpu or better go and play it this way.you can plug in a DualShock 3 or 4 and then play(X360 controller works too) but if you don’t have one don’t worry touch controls are hard at first but you’ll get used to them(I’ve been playing the game these past 3 days and spent 9 hours playing it with touch controls and had no issues at all)

            • rockman29

              i might try to emulate thanks for the heads up

      • Budgiecat

        Its better played than just watched.
        And example of a game you can watch without remorse would be Beyond, or maybe some low grade visual novel.
        Because yes their lines were cheesy. And Gackt, I mean, Genesis was annoying as hell lol.

    • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

      Zack was horrible?

      • Heropon

        ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Yes .

        • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

          To each his own.

    • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

      Zack is still better than cloud

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        Whoa whoa whoa.

        • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

          Not even kidding. Lol

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            Bro. Can we at least agree that they’re both badasses?

            • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

              Zack is more badass then. Lol

              • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

                He is more charismatic.

              • Bebop

                So y’all forgot Cloud threw Seph into the stream? Not Zack?

                • http://www.rpgnews.it/ Chocozell

                  Ah, it’s ok for that. Also, Cloud saved the World two. Zack never. But still, Zack is more badass than Cloud, imho.

                  • Bebop

                    Lmao OK he’s cool as hell…but Cloud is my nigguh

                    • http://www.rpgnews.it/ Chocozell

                      Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s ok.

                    • Bebop

                      :p

                  • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

                    Zack savee the world once. But cloud did it twice. Vincent did it once too.

                  • Mighty Sam

                    Don’t forget that he also fought those three brothers(Kadaj,Yazu and……….what was the name of the last one?)he also defeated Bahamut SIN and Sephiroth once again.I bet Zack couldn’t have gone past Safer Sephiroth if he was still alive.

                    • Bebop

                      People just hatin bruh

                    • Mighty Sam

                      I mean seriously even Cloud’s hairstyle is even more badass than Zack’s.

                    • Bebop

                      Lol!not to.mention Zack’s gf was.Aerith and Clouds is that hot fuqin Tifa…game ova

                    • Mighty Sam

                      Oh yeah man gimme a high five on Tifa being Cloud’s.in my game she went on a date with Cloud in Golden Saucer so even if others want to think that Aerith was the one for Cloud I still will say that no Tifa’s the one.

                    • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

                      Im not hating I just like zack more

                    • D†C

                      Kadaj, Yazoo and Loz.

                    • Mighty Sam

                      Oh yeah thanks the last one was only a follower and didn’t fight solo that’s why I don’t remember him well.Kadaj was the leader and Yazu was handed his ass to him by Tifa(that electric gauntlet strike was unmanly so it doesn’t count)

                • Lastlight

                  So you forget that Zack fought off and god damn army while cloud was beating off behind a damn rock.

                  Don’t you dare make my hero less than he is….

                  • Bebop

                    Sephiroth son…what army could stop him? Oh right…Cloud

                    • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

                      yeah but he has a point…cloud did nothing to help zack..lol

                      if he was so strong zack would have still been alive.

                    • Bebop

                      no Doubt Cloud was being a BIATCH at the time but he still fuqed up Seph at the Reactor

                    • Lastlight

                      Um hmmm let’s see

                      So Why’d he come back in AC?

                      Stop? More like hindered.

                    • Bebop

                      umm could Zach “Hinder” him? oh right he got fuqed up, regardless if Cloud hindered him or whatever, He still stopped arguably the most powerful man alive so…

                    • Lastlight

                      No.
                      But after cloud “hindered” sephy what did he spend the rest of the game doing….oh right ~Zack where are youuuuu~

                    • Bebop

                      haha Cloud did go into bitch boy mode after that XD, I’m just bugging wit you man I love Zack too i love FFVII period

                    • Lastlight

                      ….s…sorry…
                      It’s just…Zack is like my all time favorite character….I gotta defend him l…

                      I kinda went overboard :'(

                    • Bebop

                      lol why are you apologizing? I thought it was just fun Banter i love Zack too man! shit SquareSoft was my all time fav developer for the longest time, infact i don’t think anyone had such a big impact on my gaming history, so its ok to be defensive but you really weren’t going overboard, pretty tame

        • Cocteau

          The real thing is better than the imitation naturally

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            What about when Cloud became his own man again? AC was the shit. And aot of that was Cloud planning and attacking based on his own skill and ideals.

            • Bebop

              I they forgot Zack got wooped against seph,and cloud went and cleaned up by tossing his ass in the stream,whilst being stabbed

              • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

                Yeah zack is cool but cloud is an underdog turned total badass. I like both. Idk why people like to draw lines in the sand.

                • Bebop

                  Cuz Zack was a very sick character, and he wasent blonde, but cloud did will that ass

                • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

                  Just imagine what zack would do if he was still alive

                  • Bebop

                    Nothin cuz cloud proved he was stronger

                  • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

                    Again zack was cool. But let’s not ignore all the mental and physical shit cloud went thru and how he save the world twice due to it.

          • NEKO WORKING

            Emiya Shirou says hello.

            • Cocteau

              Well if we are going to use anime examples Deishuu Kaiki is a better one. <3

      • Lastlight

        Thank you!!!!

  • Rayhan PromisedGallery

    maybe the battle will start with “activating combat mode” ?
    http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3huqRbdToSY/hqdefault.jpg

    • Mighty Sam

      That’ll be awsome(without the DMW or Gambit system and with character switching and summons)

      • Rayhan PromisedGallery

        it was awesome at first, but hearing it 972912912 times was really annoying

        • Mighty Sam

          Tru dat

      • 59fps

        just how would this be awesome? ugh

  • Ravenheartzero

    ‘changing it to a more realistic system ‘… Interesting. Very curious to see where they take the battle system!

    • Budgiecat

      maybe they’ll just hijack FF Dissidia Arcade’s 3 person team battle system who knows…

  • Damjan Šalov

    It would be smart for Square-Enix to stick with an Unreal 4 engine if they want release it as quick as possible.

    • Bebop

      They need to get KHIII andFFXV out first, it sounds incredibly bloated with all the titles they wanna release in that small frame, they should ask for Sony to aid them

      • anon

        FFXV is being developed by Business Division 2, KH3 is being developed by Business Division 3, FF7R’s development isn’t being hindered by anything.

        • Budgiecat

          depends on how many divisions they have

          (unless outsourced)

          • anon

            There is 12 Business Divisions.

            Division 1 = Kitase runs this division, mostly FF10 and FF13 devs, in charge of FF7 compilation, they have no known “big” game in development announced right now, Toriyama works for this team.

            Division 2 = Tabata runs this division, making FFXV, mostly KH1/2 devs who were also mostly FF7 devs, and FF Type-0 devs are on this team, also the entire Luminous engine team.

            Division 3 = Hashimoto runs this division, making KH3, BBS/DDD Osaka KH team, Nomura works for this division but collabs with others.

            Division 4 = Hazama runs this division, making Dissida 3, made Dissida1/2 and Theatrhythm

            Division 5 = Yoshida runs this division, making/maintaining FFXIV Heavensward, did ARR and manage XI too.

            Division 6 = Miyake’s division, the DQ side who manage and oversee DQ games.

            Division 7 = Shiba division, random mid budget games like Star Ocean, Drakengard 3, Lord of Vermillion

            Division 8 = No info but is apparently the Cloud gaming team.

            Division 9 = Tokita’s division, Mobile for FF phone ports division.

            Division 10 = Ando’s division , Mobile division for games like Rise of Mana and Chaos Rings.

            Divsion 11 = Yokoyama’s division, Browser division for various games like KHX, DQ Monsters Parade, BD Praying Brage

            Division 12 = Hasegawa’s division, Browser division for random games like Sangokushi Rumble and Amatus

            If any Business Division was in charge of FF7R it would be Division 1.

            • Bebop

              Nomura tweeted he wouldn’t let kitase touch his game

              • anon

                Nomura doesn’t have a twitter account, and Kitase is producer on FF7R, also Kitase was director on FF7 in the first place.

                • Bebop
                  • Damjan Šalov

                    That’s a parody account.

                    • Bebop

                      Lol!

                  • anon

                    You know that is a fake twitter account, right? It says right in the profile description that that is a parody account.

                    • Bebop

                      Lmao

            • Damjan Šalov

              Which division Masahiro Ito belongs to? I’m curious if he’s interested for a job. :P

              • anon

                Don’t you mean Hiroyuki Ito? It’s not known at this time what division he works for.

                • Damjan Šalov

                  What the hell did I just say? o.O
                  I got him mixed up with an ex-Silent Hill designer.

            • Budgiecat

              sounds a like a lot of bloated BS lol

              If they had that many divisions then why the hell was Nomura’s team called over so many times to help with XIII games lol

              • anon

                Those Business Divisions were only put into place in late 2013 when SE restructured the entire company.

                Prior to that SE had the different teams as part of a specific Production team, so something like all FF and KH devs were on a single production team, which is why Nomura would constantly be pulled from other games, namely Versus, to work on 10 or so other games during that time because that was just how the company was structured back then.

        • Bebop

          I’m just saying they got alot on their plate…FFViI should get aid from Sony to ensure it goes smoothly

      • Damjan Šalov

        Actually I’ve heard Cyberconnect2 is co-developing the game. I’m saying they should rather stick with Unreal 4 because if they stick with an in-house engine aka Luminous engine that is being developed along with FFXV the game will never get finished on that state. Kingdom Hearts 3 is being developed with U4 and the whole process is going pretty smoothly.

        • Bebop

          Ab well.then yes,.yes.they.should

        • TwinBuns

          I’d say Luminous is ready now because FF15 Episode Duscae is out.

          • Damjan Šalov

            That’s just a 1.5 version, not 2.0, they’re still working on it through a development process.

  • http://www.rpgnews.it/ Chocozell

    Ahia.

  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

    “more realistic system” That makes me worried :(

    • Blackzero123 .

      Action rpg

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        I do not want the battle system of FF XV in FF VII.

        • Blackzero123 .

          Does it matter the game is still going to have all the main features.

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            Main features are cinematic angles in combat, and
            you decide the actions for every character.

            • Lastlight

              That’s not realistic.

              Unless it’s more like you tell them what to do then go about your business leaving them to do their thing

              • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                That’s what I am hoping for. Using limit breaks, summonings and magic in the original is a fantastic experience.

                • Lastlight

                  And I can be fantastic in an ARPG sense too.

                  You didn’t even try it yet

                  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                    I am not saying that only Turn based can work, but they need to capture that same sense of control, atmosphere and cinematics.

          • 59fps

            How!!!????????

  • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

    Am I gonna see Tifa fuck Cloud is real time now?

    • Budgiecat

      Plse. traditional cultural Japanese made characters do not allow for that sort of stuff
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      (unless Hentai)

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        If I gotta sit thru Cloud in a dress then they have to se
        It thru tifa in her tour guide clothes riding cowgirl style of Cloud’s dick. It’s only fair.

        • Budgiecat

          plse

          the children

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            They made their choice when they decided to be born in a post ff7 remake world.

        • Bebop

          Lol that cross dress part added to the humor and lighthearted ness to the game, I hope it is in it again

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            Me too just joking.

            • Bebop

              I know I just can’t wait for that line” your friends hot!” Lmao

              • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

                “Make me a dress”
                “What?”
                “Make me a dress!”

                • Bebop

                  Hahaha

        • DHelel

          Hey I love that cross dressing and the scene Aerith was chased around a table so much XD

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            I wouldn’t change it just joking.

            • DHelel

              Yeah I know it’s joke
              Everyone loves that scene of “super serious soldier” Cloud

    • Bebop

      Mmmm Tifa…yes indeed dat Ass

      • Kaga

        you mean dem tits… mmmm

        • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

          Both.

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        Cloud’s high on mako to not be fucking her more often.

        • Bebop

          Hahaha haha you know he be like” aye…lets take a bike ride to the mountains…get it in real quick”

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            Yeah. To me Thats the best flirting he can do. The real cloud is a quiet not so up front guy as he pretended to be.

        • Mighty Sam

          You pervs I think if Cloud was a pervert Tifa would go Sakura(in Naruto anime) Mode and punch him in the face lol

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            No no no. I dont want him to be pervert. Just affectionate instead of stoic.

            • Mighty Sam

              Lol yeah I’m jocking I was just pointing in the similarity between Sakura and Tifa because both of them kick ass with their fists.

              • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

                Troo.

          • Bebop

            Nnaaeww Cloud.got that emo attitude/ glowy eyes game Happenen, chicks love it

    • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

      Just let me see dem tig ol bitties in hd…lol

    • Mighty Sam

      If the game comes to PC,then the mod gods will grant your wish!

      • Bebop

        lol!

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        Can the make yuffie breast bigger.

        • Mighty Sam

          Nooooo the loli fans will become angry and burn the modder allive XD

        • Yuntu

          Of course they can. Mods can do many beautiful things once people have figured out how to do them.

          • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

            I wish I was good enough with computers I could make at least Tales level games.

  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

    No new characters… GOOD!!!! I want to feel like I am in the same universe and not some reimigined alternate bs thing

  • Azoz

    Please make Zack playable in anyway.

    • rockman29

      Zack DLC same price as full game confirmed

      Black hair wig for Cloud for half price

    • Zanda

      Zack zombie mode DLC, preorder bonus.

  • ayanami-chan

    ok… Good why was anyone thinking different

    • Bebop

      About what?

      • ayanami-chan

        did you upvote my post without knowing what i was talking about?

        • Bebop

          Yes my phone has reply by downvote and it accidentally.hit it so I upvoted to counter it sorry

  • Zanda

    Good. The only place I could see them adding any new characters is maybe as a new side quest.

  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

    I get pissed off and almost embarrassed by the many fans commenting on different sites about FF VIIR. I am beginning to doubt that these ppl are even real fans. Too much optimism for a game that will most likely not live up to the original. And also too much joking around. I take FF VII dead serious as the greatest game of all time. And to see it almost ridiculed by the so called fans gets me furious.

    • Wolf Star

      I agree, when I go to different sites, I see mostly either trolls or back in the day final fantasy fans commenting and complaining mostly. I agree final fantasy 7 is amazing and I can’t wait for the remake :) I also excited for XV too. I’m a gamer that loves JRPG games, or any game that looks good in general.

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        I hardly ever see anyone complaining, because I am one of those complaining fans that praise the original like a holy relic not to be fucked with. Some of the fans I hate are the ones joking around about crossdressing, tits and ass and want Aerith to be ressurrected and are open for anything as long as it has better graphics and say Final Fantasy VII on the cover. FF VII is th eone remake they cannot fuck up, if there ever was a game that should never be touched by a remake it is FF VII, there are no other candidates in the history of gaming that are more holy than this game so if they fuck this up and I still see ppl praising it I will go on a rampage online like a flaming hurricane.

        • Bebop

          Tifas booty doe…:p

        • Wolf Star

          Hahahah, oh man.. ^_^, don’t worry about FF7 remake because it’s in good hands now with Tetsuya Nomura (who made kingdom hearts series) and the original members of 7 team as well. I’m happy it’s here and also I don’t mind playing it again on Ps4 this winter the Ps1 classic.

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            I am playing FF VII on steam right now because I can’t wait for October, and when the Ps4 port is here I will gladly replay that game again! SO LOOKING FORWARD TO OCTOBER YEAH!!!!!!

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            Btw, just for the record, I hate the KH series. I can’t get on board with the concept for even a second.

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            Also I am not against the remake as long as it delivers.. because if it doesn’t then I will be heartbroken when I know there will then be fans that will love it no matter what. If I never see a trailer or word from creators showcasing the vehicles and a world map I will not be able to play it :(

            I don’t want one FF VII with everything and another with a FF X style or FF XV style world/map… I need my vehicles :)

            No one wants them to succeed as much as I do, but realistically it is never gonna happen.

            I am afraid of a corridor driven and grounded FF VII game which would suck.

          • 59fps

            It probably isn’t in good hands with Nomura

        • DHelel

          Why do we have to complain for now? When the game or at least a demo coming out, we will judge it not only with the role of hardcore fans but also gamers who want to have an innovating experience
          Why don’t we joke about cross dressing when it is one of the most light-hearted moments in an epic, sad game like ff7
          Why should Aerith not be resurrected? Because u know seeing a wonderful girl like her die for the 3rd time will make me get sick :'(
          And more than that, we should never fear of changes if it could remain the core value of this game while adding some new elements

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            If she was resurrected it would ruin that sadness which is one of many points that made it classic. It would ruin parts of the stpry and render her self sacrifice meaningless. they can add, but not take away as I have said a million times already.

    • Bebop

      This game was one of my cherished childhood games…but I wanna have fun and experience the core plot all over again in perfect HD,I don’t know what they will do but I have faith in square to make this excellent again just like the og…don’t hate people for being happy about this, its a GAME

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        It is not just a game for some random hours of entertainment. This is the pinnacle of art and creation.

        • Bebop

          No its not, music, painting, plays were pinnacles, all parts that made this game great,your fanboying hard son. This didn’t create Iife, or some coding of alien life given to the humans, chill its a game and its suppose to be fun and loved all over again not analyzed worshipped and taking so serioisly

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            I have seen too many remake disasters in my life… how will this be any different? Having different versions of the same things can seriously fuck with the mind and twist emotions until they are all in turmoil.

            • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

              take the nostalgia goggles off ?

              • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                Nostalgia is what I should feel when I play the remake, it should basically enhance the nostalgia. Take it to a higher level :D

                • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

                  okay but if anything is different (and stuff will be) don’t be throwing a tantrum over the internet.

                  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                    It all depends on what the changes are. There will always be some changes but there should not be any major changes that disrupts the life stream ;)

              • MoogleMcGee

                So your saying that when Silent Hill was upped to HD Konami didn’t screw that one up? “We fixed the graphical glitch that you all thought was fog!” Yeah but now we can see ALL of the unfinished textures and even some areas that plateau into nothingness. Point is this remake won’t BE FF7. To quote The Hitchhiker’s Guide “He had found a Nutri-Matic machine which had provided him with a plastic
                cup filled with a liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea.”

                • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

                  who said anything about silent hill? lol i know it will be different.

              • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                Played FF7 for the first time 3 years ago, game is amazing!!!

                • Bebop

                  Hey man welcome to the party, shit is gonna be dope!

                  • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                    It is my favorite game :|

                    It still is.

                    • Mighty Sam

                      Also mine,but after Metal Slug X

                    • Bebop

                      That’s dope Bruh,FFIX is mine if you haven’t played that one give it a shot too

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      FFX was my first,then and XII, then VII and VIII and IX

                      I am reviewing the series.

                    • Bebop

                      Oh OK coo, X was proby least liked…did not care for it really…Auron was dope though…

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      I liked it, had some issues though. Needed more to do.

                    • Bebop

                      Yea…if they were to remake viii it could be dope, just fix the fuqin junction and draw system…horrible

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      I loved the junction/draw system XD made the game so easy.

                    • Mighty Sam

                      He means fixing the part where we needed to junction everything when other party members rejoined the party and we had to put the GFs and magics and items into everyone’s setup again

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      Yeah, it got tedious a bit there.

                • Mighty Sam

                  I also played it 2 years ago for the first time and absolutely loved it.feels great to be a part of the FFVII fanbase.

                  • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                    That game is old, but made me feel like modern games need to step it up.

                    • Bebop

                      It really did change the gaming world ps1 was truly incredible

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      More games need to be like it, such good lore and story.

                    • Bebop

                      I agree, gaming has changed alot though…Fps’s took alot away from focusing on lore and story to just pure combat, but some are still really sick. deus ex looks.outstanding

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      Some games do great lore, like Bloodborne. So much going on in the background of those games.

                    • Bebop

                      Bloodborne is amazing, I love that game

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      I platinumed it :|

                    • Bebop

                      Damn I didn’t do that haha but I loved it

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      I was so close I just figures why not.

                    • Mighty Sam

                      Yeah it was huge in the time it was released.I couldn’t believe it when I read 2 years ago before playing it that it has 3 disks!I was wondering that what kind of beast is it that needs 3 disks?and then played it and was amazed by the scale of the game and laughed that look what FFVII has done with 3 700MB disks while what FFXIII has done with 3 8GB DVD9s!

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      I beat it in a few days XD….Im going to plat the rerelease .

                    • Mighty Sam

                      Yeah I was playing it in the middle of my finals and finished it in 20 hours.have you played Crisis Core?if not it’s an absolute necessity for any FFVII fan to play.if you don’t have a PSP emulate it with PPSSPP emulator on Windows,Android(Adreno 330 or higher gpu for best experience with very very few small frame drops) or iOS.I started playing it three days ago on my Galaxy S5 Duos and I’m currently 9 hours in and the story is just as great(it’s Zack’s story before the events of FFVII)and the gameplay is real time and much better than ATB imo.

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      I played CC and Dirge and beat all the stuff in both.

                      I enjoyed them but they don’t quite match, CC doesnt thanks to things that I’m not sure youve reached yet.

                    • Mighty Sam

                      I’m at the point where Zack and Cloud are heading back to Midgar after the Nibelheim incident.you mean the mismatch about Genesis,right?and I take you’ve watched FFVII:Advent Children already.

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      Yeah, Genisis messed things up a bit.
                      And yup, AC complete and the limited edition OVA

                    • Mighty Sam

                      Hell yeah man watching AC in any form other than Complete is to miss out on a lot.

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      The bluray quality is amazing!

                    • 59fps

                      and that’s exactly it. So why does nomura think he can inject it with modernism and think it’ll go well

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      Nomura did the original story, and character work, and the two guys with him were Just as important.

            • Bebop

              Look man…I very much want this to be the remake we all want, great graphics, ALL the same story mechanics like the sneaking in shinra hq…the chocobo ranch, golden saucer, all of it…but we have to believe they will do this and trust em. Don’t put negativity into the remake but embrace it. I hope it will give you the joy the og did and we can deliver our childhood gems all over again. So be positive my.brotha…GREATNESS is coming

              • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                I hope you are right, but realistically looking at the SE game designs the past years they have nothing even close to what FF VII did.

                • Bebop

                  It’s true, but imo ffxv does look dope and the whole original team is working on this, so its all good mang

                  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                    I am SUPER Hyped for FF XV, a NEW FINAL FANTASY!!! Haven’t had that in a long time now. I have been ever since the first images… but even here they have changed much that make me worried.. like why couldn’t Noctis have the original leather coat look with badass designs? But FF XV is my nr 1 anticipated game! :D

                    • Bebop

                      Yea it changed a bit, but from.what I’ve seen, DAAAMNNN haha, my most anticipated game is HORIZON so if you haven’t. Checked that out give it a go

                    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                      Horizon is one of the games from E3 that has got me interested.
                      These are the games I took with me from e3:

                      -FF VII remake
                      -Star Ocean 5
                      -NIER Ps4
                      -Transformers Devastation
                      -Horizon Zero Dawn
                      -Dark Souls III

                    • Bebop

                      Horizon
                      FFVII
                      Deus Ex
                      I really wanna see project setsuna

                    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                      I was already hyped for the new Deus Ex prior to E3, but yeah that one too :)

                      I wanna se more of the Setsuna project too but I can’t get excited until I see more… it has only gotten my attention thus far so I will be aware of the name in the future.

                    • Bebop

                      I love Deus Ex man…so good

                    • 59fps

                      I’ve never really been into what’s been shown of XV, and most of what I’ve played of it (though there were a couple of positives). However I can respect it as a new entry trying new things. You don’t fundamentally change the essence of a classic, and think you can just reinvent it all with your own spin, which you’ve tried on several entries before, and subsequently failed to create a classic. Everyone needs to remember Nomura is directing XV combat… combat that had extremely mixed-negative reaction

                    • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

                      uh…nomura is not directing XV…tabata is..lol

                    • 59fps

                      sorry, was :)

    • Mighty Sam

      Fans can be in different groups.there is a group that love FFVII and love the gameplay Sakaguchi established meanwhile there’s another group where they love FFVII but also love KH series or Crisis Core and FF Type 0 so they favor the action gameplay that Nomura and Tabata established.in the end of the day Sakaguchi is not in Square anymore and Nomura is now at the helm.so I guess it’s fair to say that many fans are happy and many fans are disappointed but in the end of the day people have different opinions and the devs can’t catter to both groups at the same time without spending loads of money.

      I don’t see what gives you the right to draw the line of what makes someone a true FFVII fan.fans are people who love somethings but that doesn’t mean they should love everything about it.most new fans of FFVII which I’m a part of played games in an age where real time action was ruling and thus don’t have any fondness for a system that makes us wait for a stupid gauge to fill in order to fight.

      Square are targeting new fans and Nomura and the action gameplay system that he has in mind is what manages to attract them and ATB will seriously turn them off,just as it turned me off when I played FFVII for the first time 2 years ago but the stellar story gave me enough reason to tolerate the gameplay.

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        They can target new fans with new games, not fuck up old ones. I draw the line where the original starts and ends. The remake should not be a way to sell SE into the future of gaming. A remake should always be for the ones who cherrished the original.

        I was one of the ppl back in the 90’s that only likes real time action like ALundra and Secret of mana and hated on FF VII when I first saw it because of the turn based combat… then after I played it I was like HOLY SHIT! Never have there been something so cinematic of a gameplay and there was much more tactic involved than I thought, battle preparation+++ And never had I played a game with such an amazing story and characters… after that game I searched almost exclusively for RPG games with some type of turn based because that meant epic looking combat and a big long story spanmning for hours with emotional ups and downs. Zelda and game like that became obsolete after FF VII and I was amazed when I got FF VIII and FF IX and was swearing that JRPGs RULED!

        • Mighty Sam

          Well that’s like,your opinion man.your first comment was like you loving someone since childhood and then somebody who has only knew her/him for a year or two starts dating her and you start a fight with him/her and saying that just because you loved that person for a longer time only you have the right to date her,but the truth is as much as it might seem unfair,your crush doesn’t have any obligation to be with you.that’s the case with Square.they can please new fans and don’t owe anything to the old fans.that’s why they can make the game real time and catter to us,or they can keep ATB and favor you.that is surely disappointing for me and fans like me but I won’t start hating those who liked the ATB system.so chill man,and hope that’ll be up to your tastes.

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            I love action systems in games, one of my fav battlesystems of all time is Devil may cry, but in FF VII I don’t want to only control Cloud. If they add a more action based system they better let me change the controlled character and add a sense of tactic to it.

            • Mighty Sam

              I’m with you on that.I love DA:Origins and FFVII so I believe things like the world map,character switching,summons and all the vehicles must be in the remake.Nomura promised all these in FF Versus XIII but couldn’t deliver some but I believe he’ll do this time.

              • 59fps

                Nomura is a misguided self-obsessed idiot. Just because HE doesn’t enjoy the foundation of the first ten games of a franchise that put him where he is today, it doesn’t mean all the millions of people who bought plaed through the games didn’t

                • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                  Please don’t try and start crap with people.

                • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

                  you need to calm down…lol

        • Bebop

          Jrpgs do rule Bruh FFIX is my fav by far jrpg ever. I know this game means alot Bruh and if it wasent for fans that loved it like you and us, we wouldn’t be getting this, put down the sword…pick up a mug and fill that thing with the best damn beer and cheers with the rest of the world…we won

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            Won what?

            • Bebop

              we getting our Remake son

              • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                Well, I never asked for it, I never felt it was needed. So when it came along and I saw ppl go apeshit for it I felt like ppl were dissing the original. And this is also why I have the highest demand possible for this remake :D

                • Bebop

                  i definitely wanted a remake, the OG is perfect yet, but i wanna see all of it in remastered graphics, if it was completely a Remake graphics wise, id be completely satisfied, but I’m willing to accept its change and hope it’ll be for better and not worse

                  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                    I am open for changes as long as it is not made to things that made the game what it is. Like again, World map and vehicles are a must.

                    • Bebop

                      absolutely, they have to go forward, not backward it should be, adding. not removing ya dig?

                    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                      Yepp, I dig LOL! :D

          • 59fps

            only we didn’t, modern bullshit won

            • Bebop

              huh? we got the Remake man, the Fans won

      • 59fps

        OR re-imagining the turn based ATB system for a new generation with fantastic cinematics and graphics will get a whole load more people hooked to the gameplay that turn based RPGs can potentially provide!! Pokemon still sells millions, as do other RPGs. It’s one thing to make a new FF action based like Type 0 and XV, it’s a completely different thing to turn a classic that has an established based of many many fans who already enjoy the old system, into something it wasn’t. Would you remake Goldeneye as a GTA open world experience, or with RPG mechanics? Would you remake Halo as a 3rd person hack and slash beat em up with shooting mechanics? Would you remake Sonic 1 as a first person platformer? All of these would be misguided and disrespectful to the original and the fans, so why the hell is turn based combat any different or less worthy of respect?

    • Pekola

      Maybe you need to sit down and rethink…well, your lifestyle if this bothers you at all.

      Because functioning individuals do not place this undue importance on wether or not people are optimistic about a game.

      • 59fps

        I understand his sentiment though. It’s just people being way too trusting and happy they’ll do it justice and want to have blind faith, when the evidence shows them it’s likely to be otherwise. They should be treating the remake with due respect, but instead just seem to be trying to sell out to some unknown percieved audience, and reinvent it according to one guy’s tastes

    • Crimsonic

      I understand where you’re coming from, but the way I look at it.. If I see that they are truly pouring their heart and soul into this as can easily be seen in games once more is shown, with all the main story events kept intact and some even improved (adding more dialogue, voices, more detailed environment etc..), I will not complain. I will appreciate it for what it is, if there is genuine quality to it. Nitpicking is a step most hardcore fans will take and that can most likely ruin their experience. Their fault alone.
      I’m certainly not gonna complain if by any chance they rethink the classic hop and sway in place, get attacked, attack, rinse and repeat and adapt it to be less awkward with today’s visuals. Or the “giant cloud walks around mountains forests and rivers with random encounters”. It worked for the original, sure, but in 2017? I don’t think so.

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        I wish they would succeed and blow me away but I have very little faith in that.

        And if you think that ATB and random encounters are outdated then I have to disagree 100%. Same with the scale demand.These are things that ruins the potential of many games. Todays demands ruins the potential for games to be as great as they were in the past.

        They could still keep the ATB but have battles happen seamlessly with the area. I don’t want to be only controlling one character. Turn based combat gives more room for deeper tactics than just straight forward hack n slash. I still want to be able to set up the 4x cut, the final attack with revive, counter with mime and more :D

        I am not against changing some stuff like the battle system, like updating it in some ways as long as it doesn’t use the FF XV system of only controlling one character. And a 100% deal breaker is if they do not have the vehicles and world map. I must get that nostalgic feeling when I play it. I made a list of changes I would support.

        -More dialogue to further deepen the characters
        -More tactics to make combat even deeper
        -Maybe even more customisation like they did with the augment system in the FF IV remake
        -Drive the Bike in the fields and world map
        -Make all limit breaks available to use instead of choosing a branch.
        -Add more limit breaks and materia for that extra new feeling
        -Increase the effectiveness of elemental and added effect.
        -Make Vincent’s limit forms controllable
        -Also would be cool to actually see the materia in slots on the weapons.

        • Crimsonic

          TL;DR I agree with most of it.. It’s just, here, going from blocky cloud to next gen cloud.. I guess I wouldn’t
          like something as atb to break the immersion and become a visible contrast in entire gameplay, which it certainly would for some. I
          know, it’s just a matter of preference. :D Either way, I’ll embrace what ever it
          brings. And remember, Square ain’t no Gearbox, I’m 92% certain that this will be done properly and maybe even with fan feedback, as they did for XV demo.

          If we do get some of those it would be awesome. Especially the way to handle the world map, but as I pointed out that’s gonna prove to be a huge challenge (larger area to explore = more “empty” space to fill, more questions popping as to what’s gonna fill all that landmass up). If we’ll be having a large char roaming about, that still should be handled differently. How different, without straying in a silly contrast between the main gameplay, I don’t know.. Hopefully not like XV which suits itself perfectly. If not like XV, then how?
          We’re the ones who will get everything served, they need to figure all that out, which would probably be more than a major headache for me if I was a dev. All those classic things like materia and other items and lore I think we will get, it makes the job easier for them to get all nostalgic and give us something we can enjoy 100% in both ways, to admire the new and relish the old at the same time. Agreed, it should be strategic as well. We have XV already, would be pointless imo to have the same kind of H&S mechanic here. But again, as with the map, it troubles me cause making it happen as you said seamlessly sounds way easier said than done. Example, in XIII the way ATB was handled (just focusing on general impression), to me was.. alright, you get used to it, but even if it proved that it can still work with better visuals I still found myself after a while zoning out certain characters cause their idle animations were just loops, again and again (even paradigm shifts). It’s something I wouldn’t like to see again personally, though for some reason watching Tidus/Yuna etc.. doing the same thing hop after hop was ok, even had a certain charm to me. (thanks for reading if you have, props)

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            I read everything :D

            Basically what I am saying is: Why make a game that is not going to ONLY improve on the original? That to me is the ONLY reason to do a remake.
            To me this whole true to life scale is really just hurting games. It narrows and diminishes the scale and depth of storytelling. I just don’t want to play a remake that feels like a small world compared to the original which covered the entire planet. To me one of the greatest things ever in gaming are the old school world maps where your character is too large on the world map. Making games in that perspective gives the developers HUGE chances for creativity and not have to be tied down to reality in every aspect which hampers the size of a world.

            I don’t want to see the epic game FF VII cramped into the cramped and small designs of today. I don’t care if everything is true size as long as the game is epic.

            Important point!: I never want to sacrifice content for graphic or scale.

            • Crimsonic

              Thank you for that :D

              I get you fully :) What I think is, you have nothing to worry about.. Actually scratch that, you have -little- to worry about. ;) I told you, I see them only building upon and improving on the old, classic things. It’s their child/potential moneycow and they would be mental not to take good care of it. The rest are mostly logistical issues, how to incorporate or upgrade something while maintaining the old aspects of it, say..battle or map. Even the large character on a map can surely be pulled off.. That’s why I don’t see it being cramped into small designs of today as you put it. And by only improving on the original the devs would probably see a lot of room for new content (or old which they couldn’t add due to cd/hardware limitations); they shouldn’t be changing the story in any drastic way or taking away from it.

              It can’t be anything short of EPIC scale in the end, trust me. SE wouldn’t hype it so much otherwise. :)

              • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                We will just have to wait and see, but I can’t get hyped until I see proof that they are being faithful to the original because as I have said, I don’t want to worlds that seem similar but are not.

  • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

    If this game comes out and is incredible will it get other devs to go back making rpgs again. More frequently.? Also and perhaps more importantly, is Square god now?

    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

      Square have always been God of gaming. Ppl have just been to blind to see it these past years.

      • Bebop

        O.o

      • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

        Well for a short while lost godhood due to avarice.

      • Yuntu

        I kinda agree, though it’s more like SE is the only publisher/developer which games I always like for whatever reason.

  • CRiSTALYZERx

    Yay more butthurt people here about the battle system… Where can I escape this wave of ” fans ” that are afraid of anything that has to do with change?
    Damn if you’re that worried about the aspects of the remake then play the original one ! As simple as this! If you really like the game as much as you do, how do you consider cross-dressing Cloud as a legitimate reason to want it while bashing any new introduced aspect to it?
    And I think I read a comment on YouTube which I kinda have to agree with… Turn based combat can’t be revolutionary anymore.

    • Budgiecat

      Yes it can.

      • CRiSTALYZERx

        Well maybe it can! But bt that same butthurt fan logic… If Square tries to revolutionize anything with it it’ll just get bashed for not being like the original.

        • 59fps

          because Square’s track record recently is not near the standard of the past, so Nomura;s idea that he can revolutionise it, doesn’t spark me with confidence.

    • Bebop

      If its like Xenoblade, dope.

      • NEKO WORKING

        Nope, Xenoblade system is sucks even the sales are agreeing with me :p

        • Bebop

          Xenoblade is dope :p

    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

      “Turn based combat can’t be revolutionary anymore” LOL! what BS

      • Kenny

        lol i can’t stand laughing with it xD

    • ayanami-chan

      ….Yeah that last sentence… I think it’s time to stop posting

      • CRiSTALYZERx

        Referring you to my reply to Budgiecat

        • swiss

          i think turn-based i still relevant for Handheld games or animeish(persona) games but for AAA realistic graphics such as this? no i dont think so i have not seen a AAA realistic graphics game that has been critically acclaim for what? 7 years now

    • LordKaiser

      Bravely Default says hi.

  • badmoogle

    Thank God,FFVII has more than enough great characters as it is.

    • 59fps

      Ironically I think they’re changing the wrong parts. The battle system is the part they SHOULDN’T change drastically. I wouldn’t mind however if they included extra sidequests and such that didn’t detract from or interfere with the main game, even if they had cameos from other characters from the Compilation of FF7. I’d prefer a pure experience, but if they wanted to unify the whole series I could accept these characters in a non intrusive form as NPCs for hidden sidequests

      • badmoogle

        I think it’s impossible to remake it with realistic graphics and keep the battle system the same…i love the original game but for good or worse the new art style dictates that some changes must happen.

        • 59fps

          Only, it’s not. People have no imagination. A different art style and design would have suited the game better to this end, but it’s entirely possible. Maybe that’s the issue, the art and design direction, which doesn’t seem to reflect the original in the first place. Look at the way entries FF7-9 handled teh battle, they didn’t simply wait all in a line with one camera angle. It was pretty dynamic, because the of how dynamic the camera was, panning in across and out on attacks, giving the illusion a lot was happening. It was more like a continual cinematic… now imagine what they could do with today’s ability and tech. look at how the ramuh summon played out in XV, you weren’t controlling the character, just watching. This was the essence of the FF7 battle system. Customising characters before battle, surviving an onslaught of attack, the attacks had more weight being quantised, the importance of each action or decision was emphasized. Even if you look at XIII and XIII-2, it was still essentially command and ATB based, did it look ridiculous or out of place? no. 7 wasn’t too different from this, because there was a variety in the attacks, camera angles, pan, attack cinematics. Now a turn based system with todays tech can only expand on this, giving more variety.

          • badmoogle

            You make some good points but another problem is that the turn based ATB system in today’s day and age has become (unfortunately) something very niche and it would be a huge risk to invest a multi million budget on it.SE needs to take into account that many people have moved on from that system and now want a more active combat experience.

            But really if they can it make it work without looking ridiculous then i’m all for it.I loved FFVII’s battle system and i still play (and enjoy) a lot of turn based games.

            • 59fps

              I understand their reasoning, however I think it’s weak reasoning. It is a greater gamble to bet on that they can make an entirely new system that will attract new fans and please existing ones. Pokemon still sells well in the millions for many generations have very simple graphics. The turn based gameplay puts some people off, but no more in truth than fighting games gameplay puts off some shooter fans. Honestly, I would be completely put off if they changed the battle gameplay to be in control of only one character, or action based. We have two large scale FF games coming out: XV an a remake of VII, now considering that XV is action based, and thus far hasn’t exactly had great reviews for its battle system, and VII is turn/queue based and has near universal acclaim, maybe they should concentrate on getting the atcion battle system right in XV first, and leaving VII with a turn based one that it was known for and that worked. At least then both sets of gamers would be happy

              • 59fps

                plus they’ll try and reinvent the wheel with the battle system, detracting fromm concentrating on perfecting the rest of the game

            • Elvick

              Wasn’t aware FFXIIi was a niche game.

              • badmoogle

                And FFXII.And FFX,FFIX etc,etc…obviously i meant other than FF.Of which btw the sales of each numbered FF are slowly shrinking while the development costs continue to rise.SE knows that console gamers who are still fans of turn based combat are the minority so they have to appeal to much larger target groups.

                But who knows,as i said before maybe SE can pull it off and make FFVII Remake a success even with a turn based ATB system.

                • Elvick

                  Sale shrinkage is cause by many factors, not solely turned based.

  • Articuno76

    The way it is phrased in the original text is still open enough to intepretation that “new” characters that have been added post-FF7 through various spin-offs could still be included. Doesn’t rule them out.

  • vertical09

    It sounds fine to me, to be honest.
    I didn’t expect the game to be turn based the very moment they revealed it.

    I’m more interested in if they’re keeping the materia system. I can’t tell you how much I loved setting up my materia in the game, and I hope they don’t take that away.

    • Bebop

      Literally a must for me, materia system was by far my fav of all the ffs

    • Yuntu

      I think it will still be there with maybe slithly changes to it. But who knows what they are doing with it. Hopefully they show some gameplay later this year.

    • PuppetMaster

      It’s possible they will keep the materia system since materia also very connected with the story.

  • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

    I’d love for some Dragons Dogma Gameplay mixed with KH!!!:D

  • Mighty Sam

    9 million fans that time and millions more became the fans of FFVII.Nomura definitely has a lot on his shoulders now.let’s not give him anxiety by believeing in him and the team.

    • Bebop

      10 million sold garuntee

    • Noctis Pendragon

      And everyone is alive and has a ps4 …

  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

    I wish that they would invite Sakaguchi and Uematsu to the project… I would sleep easier knowing they were there :)

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      He wanted FF7 to be a detective story in New York :|

      The original story for FF7 was made by Nomura.

      • Mighty Sam

        Actually Nomura was just the character designer.Nojima and Kitase wrote the story

        • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

          “based on orignal story by H-sakaguchi and T-Nomura”

          The FF7 credits. After the release we learned it was mostly Noms game with good ol Sakaguchi supervising.

          • Mighty Sam

            Well I never pay attention to credits so it must have slipped past me XD

            • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

              That’s ok! I am probably the only guy who watches them XD…

              • Mighty Sam

                I actually watched the scene with the stars hoping for a post-credits scene(I don’t mean the scene about Red XIII and his children.actually,I think that was before the passing stars scene)

                • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                  …I sat there for like 20 minutes…

                  • Mighty Sam

                    Haha I did around 6 or 7 minutes but got disappointed

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      I was very…VERY much wanting more

                    • Mighty Sam

                      I know it was like the very first CG movie of the game and I thought now it’ll show something special.

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      Rephrase that please? Sorry XD I just can’t figure it out.

                    • Mighty Sam

                      You know when you selected New Game,a CG movie(Computer Generated) was shown that in it the night sky with lots of stars was spinning and then it showed Aerith’s face.I thought that the last scene where the stars where coming to the direction of the screen would lead to something like that.

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      Ohh!! that would have been interesting D:

                  • Mighty Sam

                    Damn now that I think about it I left FFVIII at the middle of disk 2 but I’ve got to transfer my saves from my old tablet to my new smartphone.

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      I love that game, its story is a bit weird but interesting. I think disc 2 has some amazing things happen.

          • TalesRevenant

            This is false. Don’t make up stuff.

            This is Sakaguchi’s baby. Not Nomura’s. Sakaguchi’s original FFVll was supposed to have ideas of NYC/Detective and a more Sci-fi storyline. These branched out and became their own games. Parasite Eve and Xenogears. FFVll retained the mature aspect. FFVll’s story was originally going to be very different. Sakaguchi’s mother passed away during development, and they overhauled the entire story. He then decided to make it about life and death, and the consequences of that, which is inspired by his mother. Jenova is a perfect example of this.

            Nomura was important to FFVll, because he came up with the idea to kill, and the concept of Aerith. Originally Sakaguchi was going to kill off Tifa, but Nomura suggested that instead of doing that, they should make a new character and kill her off. Which became Aerith.

            Which is why Nomura is credited under Sakauguchi under base story. Because Aerith is crucial to the plot of FFVll. But this is Sakaguchi’s baby because the story of the game, which he wrote, is based off his mother.

            Please learn your history before trying to claim ‘facts’ Not being rude, just it creates confusion and misinforms people.

            • Frank Doomrider Johansen

              THANK YOU!!! Phew… that saved me a lot of time and typing :D

            • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

              :) Guess what! You are wrong, Sakaguchis mother died during the development of Final Fantasy 3, I believe in 1988.

              If you read the Final Fantasy Compendium you’d know the story was a collaborative effort between largely 3 men, Tetsuya Nomira, Kazushige Nojima and Yoshinori Kitase. While Sakaguchi did have his say and influence in the game he was not the huge leader many make him out to be.

              “Nomura recalled the creation of the game’s plot, which was originally written by Hironobu Sakaguchi, now of Mistwalker. Nomura, who claims to still have a copy of the plot, noted how “completely different” it is from the final version. “I think he wanted to do something like a detective story? There was a character called Hot Blooded Detective Joe.”

              The Midgar city was already in place at this point. The early part of the story that was written by Sakaguchi involved Detective Joe chasing after the main characters, who then blow up the city.

              Obviously, the story changed some once Nomura and Kitase got involved. While Nomura went off into the character design and visual work following some initial changes to Sakaguchi’s plot, Kitase and Kazushige Nojima came up with the sections on Avalanche and Shinra, Cloud’s background story, and the relationship between Cloud and Sephiroth. Sakaguchi came up with the specifics on the Life Stream in his original plot, but this also saw some work by Kitase and crew before finally being placed in the game.”- http://www.ign.com/articles/2007/06/04/ffvii-not-being-remade-nomura

              “EGM: We heard that the death of Aerith and the creation of Tifa both originated in a phone call between you two….

              TN: It’s funny, some magazine ran that story, but only the beginning and ending of it. People think that I wanted to kill off Aerith and replace her with Tifa as the main character! [Laughs] The actual conversation between Mr. Kitase and myself was very, very long. Originally, there were only going to be three characters in the entire game: Cloud, Barrett, and Aerith. Can you imagine that? And we knew even in the early concept stage that one character would have to die. But we only had three to choose from. I mean, Cloud’s the main character, so you can’t really kill him. And Barrett… well, that’s maybe too obvious. But we had to pick between Aerith and Barrett. We debated this for a long time, but in the end decided to sacrifice Aerith. “- Interivew with Yoshinori Kitase and Tetsuya Nomura from Electronic Gaming Monthly, issue #196, October 2005.

              If you bother reading the interviews between the staff you would know that the initial story that Sakaguch had made was butchered and warped by Nom, Kit and Noj, they changed it to the point of it being completely different with a completely different cast of characters as well as a different setting.

              Here is Sakaguchi stating his importance to VII and VIII —-“Sakaguchi: In VIII, I am purely the producer. The production is in Hawaii and Tokyo. Like VII, Kitase will completely direct.”

              Wait! Is that not enough!? Do you need more?

              “Sakaguchi: I’ve been working with Kitase for a long time, since FF5. He did most of the event scenes in FF6: the opera house, Celes’ suicide scene, the scene where Setzer climbs the stairs and reminisces, and more. I’m not exactly turning things over to the next generation just yet, but for FF7 almost all the story was done by Kitase. His original ambition was to be a film director, so he’s well-disposed towards this work–I’ve left all the in-game event scripting in his hands.

              As for my part, since FF3 I’ve led the battle team, and that was my role this time too. Well, actually, the battle team is composed of solid veterans, so I stepped back a bit and played more of a producer role.”

              here is another!!!”Nomura: For FF7 I worked on character design, storyboarding, and the underlying story.2 I have too many favorite parts to sum up quickly here… well, I like it all.”

              “Nomura: My involvement with FF7 goes back to helping create the basic story, and we came up with the characters during that time too. I think that was a good way to do things. Barret and Cait Sith were two characters whom I had wanted to create for a long time, but everyone else was created as we were writing the story”

              Oh wait? Who created Cloud And Sephiroth, the two MOST important characters to the story! Let us see!”Nomura: For me, it’s of course Cloud and Sephiroth. My concept for Sephiroth from the beginning was that everything about him would be kakkoii.4 His battle movements, and all his in-game scenes too. My image of the relationship between Cloud AND Sephiroth was that of Musashi Miyamoto and Sasaki Kojiro, and I had them in mind when I designed their appearance, as well as their swords. Of course Cloud is Musashi, and Sephiroth is Kojiro.”-http://shmuplations.com/ff7/

              Oh dang, look at that! It looks like even Sakaguchi isn’t taking credit D:

              -_-

              Please, do not tell me to learn history, because you do not know yours.

              • Dub-Sempar Pa

                +1 for learning nee things

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            The game would be nothing without Sakaguchi and Nobuo, it was a team effort with the help of the FF Master Sakaguchi himself, the father of the greatest video game series. None of the games since he left has measured up. I still think the games have kicked ass… yes even the 13 trilogy I thought was great and I have battled those haters for years. But still… 13 did not challenge the past and if any of the mindsets used since Sakaguchi left is in the FF VIIR then oh my.. that would be bad.

            • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

              True that FF would not exist without Sakaguchi, but his involvement in 7 wasnt as huge as most due to the troubles he had. Luckily his successor ( nomura, Sakaguchi taught him everything he knows) was there to do all the stuff he wasnt available to do.

              FF8/9 and to a lesser degree 10 were amazing, 12 was fantastic too, it tried new things. Some failed but some where awesome, 15 was on the right track but is now a confused mess and I don’t know how it will turn out, all we can do is hope it returns to the glory that Final Fantasy used to be.

              • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                Sakaguchi is the quality control guy, he makes the decisions of what stays and what goes. No one knows better than him what Final Fantasy stands for. He may have left Nomura as his successor but Nomura has yet to step up to the plate. He tried with FF XV but it seems that his vision has been pushed aside and now he is used for a remake.

                • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                  I wouldn’t say used, as the three wanted to remake it and have said so many times.

                  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                    I hope they can make me a believer because I want to see it succeed. But I need proof first, like a trailer with a world map. However I feel that it would have been better to not remake the game, or at the very least wait and let Nomura create his original vision for FF XV. To me FF XV was the game that was gonna prove that they still had what it takes to make a classic game like in the past. But I have a feeling that many of his ideas have been moved over to FF VIIR. If you remember the third person shooting part… maybe that is now Barret and Vincent?

                    Even if I think the past glory of Squaresoft was best I still love many of their new FF games, but they never managed to reach that same level after Sakaguchi left. Lost Odyssey was more like a classic FF game, that game is one of the greatest and that game truly proved to me who was the main guy behind the FF franchise once and for all.

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      Jeeze I feel the same about the XV thing, it does seem like they are going to use the Versus mechanics for VII:RE, which I think sounds pretty sweet as long as it has the world map like VII/Versus did. I really wish we could of had his XV though, as it is now I am excited, but not nearly as much as I am not a huge Tabata fan.

                      I agree though, we need some more footage, and character art…. What if they just never showed any and we all had to go in dark D:…That would be scary, but really cool too…

                    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                      I do hope they can find a way to deliver a game that feels like it is equal or better than the original with the remake. However as I have expressed, due to their track record the past 15 years I seriously doubt it. I also fear too much of our present day will color the game. So basically, I want it to be INSANELY AWESOME… but I don’t think that will happen… sadly :(

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      To much “casual” in the industry.

                    • Sky Langford

                      I for one strongly agree with you. If I had to place a bet in Vegas today, I would wager that fans will be highly disappointed given Squares atrocious track record as you said and that’s being kind…….

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        I am sorry but are you stupid?
        What was that, one random brainstorming idea that got leaked… geez. That was more likely an inside joke, a brainstorming funny thing or just some basic notes or a short story that got rewritten into the grand scheme of things. ppl shouldn’t read more into random ideas than what they are. If the detective story was such a burning passion Sakaguchi would have made it into a game but instead we got FF VIII, and IX and then later Lost Odyssey.

        • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

          -_- Rudeness is not wise.

          Sakaguchi intended the story to take place in modern New York City in the year 1999. Several of the staff were working in parallel on Chrono Trigger, and development for Final Fantasy VII was interrupted when the other project became significant enough to require the help of Yoshinori Kitase and other designers. Some of the ideas originally considered for Final Fantasy VII ended up in Chrono Trigger and other ideas, such as the New York setting and the sorceress character Edea, were kept unused until the later projects Parasite Eve and Final Fantasy VIII respectively.

          Read up on it next time.

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            That is what I am saying, ideas shouldn’t be takes litteral. They can come from anywhere, be one thing in one second and another in the next… only the end result matters.

          • Frank Doomrider Johansen

            I have known about that Detective thing for a long long time and it doesn’t matter or mean anything.

            • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

              It does, and if you researched a bit more youd probably know Sakaguchi lost his mother in the development time, which is why Nomura had to step up and do work with story. Not to mention those two have a kinda father/son relationship going on.

              FFVII had both work on the story but most of Saks idea went into other games, like parasite even and Xeno.

              • LordKaiser

                A couple of links may help you here.

                • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                  here is a quote from someone about the whole ordeal, I believe he is referencing the FF compendium, it’s hard to find information about it, but the death seemed to have lead Nomura into taking more charge with the development process of Final Fantadt

                  “When we were creating Final Fantasy III, my mother passed away, and ever since I have been thinking about the theme ‘life.’ Life exists in many things, and I was curious about what would happen if I attempted to analyze life in a mathematical and logical way. Maybe this was my approach in overcoming the grief I was experiencing. This is the first time in the series that this particular theme actually appears in the game itself. See if you can spot it!”

                  And it was Nomura’s idea to have Aerith die, not Sakaguchi’s. This is the source from which I’m drawing the information. And here is the full section from that file:

                  *Q: Did the Death of Hironobu Sakaguchi’s Mother Inspire Aerith’s Death?

                  *A: No. One of the most common misconceptions concerning Final Fantasy VII is that the death of the mother of Hironobu Sakaguchi (Executive Producer and story conceptualist of Final Fantasy VII) inspired the death of Aerith, or that she was originally intended to be resurrected, yet his mother’s death inspired the development team not to bring her back to life. In either case, this is wrong.

                  This belief most often arises from a misunderstanding — or misinterpretation — of an interview Sakaguchi had with PlayStation Underground in 1997. In the second issue of the quarterly CD publication, an interview with Sakaguchi was included in which he touched upon various poins concerning the production of Final Fantasy VII. While answering the question “Are there any new themes in Final Fantasy VII?” he answered with the following:

                  “When we were creating Final Fantasy III, my mother passed away, and ever since I have been thinking about the theme ‘life.’ Life exists in many things, and I was curious about what would happen if I attempted to analyze life in a mathematical and logical way. Maybe this was my approach in overcoming the grief I was experiencing. This is the first time in the series that this particular theme actually appears in the game itself. See if you can spot it!”

                  Where a misunderstanding arises from this is that — either intentionally or accidentally — someone at some point in time replaced “Final Fantasy III” with “Final Fantasy VII” in Sakaguchi’s response, thus resulting in him having been misquoted many times over the years. Sakaguchi’s mother most certainly did not die during the production of Final Fantasy VII. She died in 1988, during the production of Final Fantasy III, as Sakaguchi suggested in the actual transcript of the interview.

                  Of this we can be certain, as Sakaguchi wrote the foreword to The Making of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (published in 2001), and stated that it had been 13 years since he lost his mother. Here follows proof concerning the book:

                  Title page, Copyright page, Quotation

                  One conceivable explanation concerning the misquoting of Sakaguchi over the years is that some people may have confused the Final Fantasy III that Sakaguchi was talking about with the game that was released in North America as “Final Fantasy III” (Final Fantasy VI). Thus, the rumour may have taken off from there, with people thinking that Final Fantasy VII was the next Final Fantasy made after his mother’s death.

                  Finally, it was not Sakaguchi at all who came up with the concept of Aerith’s death. It was Character Designer Tetsuya Nomura, tiring of the cliched dramatic deaths that were so commonplace in Eastern and Western game in film, usually involving self-sacrifice. With Final Fantasy VII, both Nomura and Yoshinori Kitase (the game’s Director) — whom Nomura passed the idea on to — wanted to say something about death that was realistic and final, empty rather than dramatic, depressing instead of awe-inspiring. Thus, it was, that the idea was not even Sakaguchi’s. He merely approved it.”

                  “”But while I was developing the first Kingdom Hearts, I received a single piece of advice from Sakaguchi-san*. That was, ‘If you don’t make it more complex like with Final Fantasy, you won’t be able to compete.'”—Nomura regarding KH story, as he asked Sakaguchi for advice.

                  It’s hot so if you want more I can find it later.

                • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                  Here is the FF compendium in question

                  http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/faqs/ff7acsquall.txt

                • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler
        • LordKaiser

          No one us insulting you. Don’t start bs around here. You can make a point without calling someone stupid.

    • Mighty Sam

      Sakaguchi is busy making mobile games…

      • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

        :(

  • Lastlight

    More….realistic…
    ACTION BABY LET’S GOOOO

  • Unknowingreaper

    Cloud getting molested in a hot spring by a bunch of muscular older men. Playing drag queen for the night. Tifa and Aerith dress up as whores. Cloud almost getting butt banged by the Don all in glorious 1080p HD can’t wait. If you know what I’m talking about that lets me know you’re not one of those FF7 posers that’s been plaguing this remake

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      Cloud getting a massage from burly men in a tub…

    • Yuntu

      I want to see the bloodbath Sephiroth does in 1080p HD. They could do so much with that scene.

      • Bebop

        the ship scene with that spooky ass music,

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        I really hope they don’t remove any of the blood… I would not be against adding bllod though ;) I love the maturity of FF VII and am also a huge fan of Fist of the north star.

    • Dub-Sempar Pa

      I thought he was raped

  • seyEliveD

    Whether they change a lot or a little, I don’t care. Turn-based or real-time, doesn’t matter. As long as it’s fun, and my nostalgia button gets pressed every so often, I’m good.

    • whiteferrero

      ikr. all these people that don’t want change should just play the original.

  • PhoenixAutomatic

    Hmm… I did expect this about the game system but I’ll wait for a official gameplay reveal and I’ll keep my hopes a bit high. I’m glad that they are not adding any new characters but at the same time they need to also give more spotlight to Reno & Rude and other existing characters.

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      Rudo! I would like to see more of them.

  • Bebop

    YO…if y’all really played FFVII you’d know what this song got its sample from :P

    https://lawdapex.bandcamp.com/track/og-shinobi

    • KingNigma

      intro gave it away.

      guy sound just like ab-soul

      • Bebop

        bruh his other tracks are so dope, i love that album

  • http://www.spaghetti.com/ Kaisenex

    i’ve seen people worry about them removing stuff…but what would you like to see ADDED?..maybe more character background or something?

    • 59fps

      No, certainly not more character background to the main characters. However new sidequests that don’t interfere with the main course of the game, maybe even with new or FF7-compilation universe NPC cameos I wouldn’t mind. A few new materia, like a hidden Aero materia, and making status materia more useful or have more utility.

    • Bebop

      definitely more Character backgrounds, for all of em,Id like to see more about Barret and XIII, id love the towns to be bigger and more exploration in them, i loved being able to almost go in every building and talk to random people, Id love more games in the Golden Saucer and for the dates to return, Id like the ability to ride the bike freely through the world man, id like the option to maybe meet Cid earlier and get the highwind more limit forms for vincent, or very well detailed versions of the old

    • MosquitoLemon

      No, the game was great when they left stuff up to imagination. I can’t stand it when games have spinoffs that retroactively add a bunch of junk in. I’d love it if this game retconned all the spin-off junk.

    • LordKaiser

      More NPC background story. The ability to visit other sectors on Midgar at the end of the game even if it’s only to talk to NPCs and do side quests. Seeds better than Reagan and Silkis seeds since they will probably not make the W-Item bug again. Also optional dungeons.

    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

      -More dialogue to further deepen the characters
      -More tactics to make combat even deeper
      -Maybe even more customisation like they did with the augment system in the FF IV remake
      -Drive the Bike in the fields and world map
      -Make all limit breaks available to use instead of choosing a branch.
      -Add more limit breaks and materia for that extra new feeling
      -Increase the effectiveness of elemental and added effect.
      -Make Vincent’s limit forms controllable
      -Also would be cool to actually see the materia in slots on the weapons.

      • Bebop

        ooo i like the materia being visible in the slots on armor/ weapons, thats cool, I also like the Limit forms of Vincent being controllable

      • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

        – Vincent, make it like KH2s anti form.

  • CHiSEEN

    Regarding the game system

    “I can’t share details, but we’re changing it to a more realistic system.”

    ATB or GTFO. don’t ruin my childhood nostalgia :(

    • Lara Croft

      It won’t be the traditional FFVII system. So would u rather have a modern ATB system like in XIII or an action based system like in XV?

      • Bakama

        FFXIII was “Auto-battle: The game” for at least 95% of the fights, and that’s coming from someone who 5-star’d everything.

        No thanks. I want the tactical approach back, not the button mashing.

        • 59fps

          Really? I partly understand what you mean with it being a bit more automated with attacks, but XIII’s battle system actually had a lot of thought put into it. It wasn’t very customisable, but the paradigm shift and stagger gauge, and ironically not being able to control the other two characters actually totalled up to be quite a simple but strategic system As good as it was, 85% of FF7 wasn’t much different outside of bosses and difficult enemies. It was wait, select attack, wait, select magic, wait, select ability… most battles you could get through by spamming attack. The only difference was that you were directly in control of three characters, and your health didn’t regenerate after battle.

        • 59fps

          As a person who’s played a fair amount of RPGs, I found XIII to be quite challenging in places, but it all depended on which paradigms etc you had set up.

  • PrinceHeir

    Can’t wait for the remake cutscenes :)

    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

      Those I am looking forward to as well, there is no way that they can fail in that regard ;) SE RULES cutscenes!!

    • Dub-Sempar Pa

      Moto cycle scene

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        They better let me still control that bike!

  • Jackie

    What the hell do you mean challenge by fun and what’s possible now? :( I am so worried that the slightest alterations of ff7 is going to upset me…no complaints on making the backstorys, attacks and graphics different but please Nomura don’t ruin this :(

    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

      My biggest fear is that I will not like the changes and call the game a blasphemy to the original. I really hope I will not have to go through the rest of my life with that agony.

      • Jackie

        Definatly. And we have waited and wanted this for so many years and now that were finally getting it…I’m so nervous

        • Frank Doomrider Johansen

          One change that will make or break the game is if they remove the world map and the vehicles. That is one of my biggest concerns because they have been unable to have a world map like FF VII ever since FFIX that means 15 years without a true world map and now all of a sudden they are remaking the holy grail… Worried is an understatement.

          • Jackie

            Oh no…They’re not that stupid and despret for alterations….right? :(

            • Frank Doomrider Johansen

              I sure hope not, but based upon the past 15 years, the increase in how much it takes and costs to make games I feel that it might not be possible to have a world map in the remake due to the costs. To make the world map with the SE graphic standard it would have to be the most expensive game ever made (again ;) ) Or keep a somewhat same scale with the world map as in the original. But if they are making the entire world scaled like FF XV then… not gonna happen. Maybe at best we get the buggie and the ship is a fast travel. I hope I am so wrong here.

              • Yuntu

                So basically XV. Just this time build with airship and so on from the beginning and not thinking about it later. That what you meant?

                • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                  What I am saying, is that if they scale the entire world like FF XV, we will not see airship, submarine. Maybe the buggy at best. I hope they prove me wrong but until I see a world map type scenario and the ariship fully functional I will not believe they can do the game justice.

              • Jackie

                i dont want to see anything relating to xv to be honest. :( ff7 should have the special treatment SE knows this since they made us wait so long and trolling us all these years. its the LEAST they can do…just a simple pleasure for us loyal old fans :)

                • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                  I heard today that SE said that it is not a remake, but a reimagining… that means remake is DEAD!

                  • Jackie

                    you mean…totally unrelating & unreconizable to the game ff7 we grew up with?? that kind of re imagining? :(

                    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                      The main points of the story and characters will be there but most stuff will be changed. Look at it like an anime adaption of either a manga or a game.
                      I really like the Arc the lad series and when I bought and watched the anime I expected it to feel like it was made to be the cutscenes for the game (the original 2 games has almost no cutscenes) They started out by following the story but the further it got the more they made it into something else and by the end it had turned into something that was not the original. So the FF remake will most likely keep the most memorable stuff and then rewrite a lot to fit the new model that they want to create. This means that it will not provide a nostalgia kick for the hardcore fans of the original.

                    • Jackie

                      oh… i see :(

                    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

                      Basically I expect something that will feel very different, like a bad Manga adaption that is not faithful to the original. A true remake is like Final Fantasy IV os DS.

          • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

            D: NO NO NO NO NO NO !!! Don’t even say that!!!!

  • Trevor Thomas

    “Regarding the game system

    “I can’t share details, but we’re changing it to a more realistic system.””

    I already told myself if this was anything but turn based like the classic, I would never play another Squenix game ever again. Looks like that is the case. FUCK YOU SQUARE ENIX! Looks like I can stop checking to see when my local Walmart has a copy of Heavenward.

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      Really -_-.

    • Dub-Sempar Pa

      It should play like gewrs of war

    • Yuntu

      Wow. Really don’t know what to say about this.

  • Elvick

    More realistic. ATB done like X-2 and XIII is more realistic than static ATB… I have hope. Because action gameplay would involve multiple characters gameplay types and I can’t imagine them being stupid enough to remove control from every character and forcing us with Cloud. (and if I remeber right there are parts without cloud, been awhile)

    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

      I hope they do an updated ATB system which gives us control of 3 characters as in the original. And yes you are correct about being without Cloud at times, like when he is in the wheelchair. Also the party splits up when Cloud is fighting Rufus by himself.

    • Miricia

      Even though ffx-2’s story is crap, I SUPER LOVE THE BATTLE!

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      Sounds like Versus to me!

  • Hidayat246

    A : Will the scenario change or new characters appear?
    B : “There won’t be new characters. As for the visual taste, we’re doing
    them to match today’s visuals and appear closer to reality.”

    funny nomura did not answer question about scenario change

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      The scenario has to change, they can’t have them all do the exact same things. Movements and times of day and such will likely be changed, and all characters will likely be present for events now.

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        Scnerios will automatically change based upon the full 3D cinematics that will be on display constantly. SO there will be no more popp in and out of Cloud and as you say everyone will most likely always be present for dialgue scenes unless there are obvious split ups like when Cloud fights Rufus alone, Tifa waiting and Barret, Aerith and Red fighting the machines in the elevator.

        But the step by step story should be the same, events should unfold like in the original. You start in Midgar, blow up reactors, attack Shinra to ger Aerith end up with the big bike scene with the boss at the end of the road and then you leave Midgar. And same throughout the game. I wanna see the Midgar zolom that Sephiroth slayed after crossing with a chocobo ;)

        • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

          The Blood-scene…I want to see it.

          *trying to not spoil things for new players.

  • Domnice Day

    Man im bout to have a heart attack. I was told a remake.. Not a re-imagining. But all in all Elvick is right. They have no choice but change some scenarios because alot of characters were present for them. As for the system mechanics for the game… They better not touch it!!!! 👿 the only way i would even consider play the game now is if they keep the materia system the same. The battle system i can kinda work with. If they were to keep it turn based like normal FFVII but make the fight visuals similar to that of X and XIII. Then i think that would be okay. Also open world would still be awesome. But the linear bull shit.

    • Yuntu

      Well tbh everything before XV is kinda linear, there isn’t really that much to do besides the story. Of course you can fly around the planet, but just because you can travel anywhere doesn’t mean the world is really open. I hope you get how I meant that, isn’t really my strong suit to explain stuff.

  • Domnice Day

    Also i hope they make the mini games at the Golden Saucer just as fun. Still with the chance to get the ultima weapon early

  • ClaudiusWhite

    I’m glad that despite FF7 being my first exposure to the series, I have no attachment to the old battle systems so I’m prepared for whatever happens.

    • LordKaiser

      That’s the reason why.

  • Jecht_Sin

    It’s a remake, a revamped battle system simply makes sense. For turn based nostalgia the remaster will be out this fall.

    • 59fps

      Let’s remake GTAV as an RTS

  • osa

    This was a mistake.
    They should’ve just made a new game in FFVII universe and then they could make it whatever they wanted.

  • aeoncs

    All these impatient whiners are already getting on my nerves so much, that I might have to stop reading any comments concerning the remake. But if some people haven’t understood by now that some obvious changes will be made, from the term “remake” alone, there’s no point discussing any of it either way.

    • Boss Man

      is this coming to ps3 as well ?

      • LordKaiser

        No

        • Boss Man

          damn bro :( well since my family wont allow me to get a ps4 i can at least get a new laptop for around 700 bucks since I am going to college. Do you think i should get a gaming laptop and maybe i can play this game on pc ? does the pc release come out ussually for this game ? i dont mean the old pc release btw.

          • Cute_shutin

            They still not planning on it maybe 10 yrs

          • LordKaiser

            I don’t believe in ” gaming laptops” as a tower will be more suited for a remake if it comes to PC. But if you must use one even if it means running it at lower specs then search for reviews of each.

            • Boss Man

              Honestly since I am going to college , I am planning on a learning a couple of things on the side like photoshop and video editing because they seem pretty useful. I think i would need a decent laptop though. I dont know what to look for in a laptop. Like should i get one of these touchscreen ipad-like laptops except with maybe intel i5 and and something like 8gb ram or should i get something like a lenovo y50 which is intended for gaming tho im not exactly a pc gamer.

            • Boss Man

              Btw thnx for replying i guess i will just save up

      • Vashe

        Just spare 1$ or even less every day or so… You’ll be able to buy a PS4 before FF7 comes out, trust me xD

        • Boss Man

          how isnt it coming out soon ? when exactly will it be coming out ? like in a year from now or like a few months ?

          • Jøe Ramirez

            My guess is at the earliest, it will be released December 2017. 2017 will be the 20th anniversary of the game. Also, game development in today’s gaming environment can take many years to create a AAA quality title. The remake has been in development for a year at the most. So 3 years seems like a decent development cycle for a game where they already have the framework set. They also confirmed that we’ll see more “in game” footage and gameplay this December. So look forward to that :)

    • NotCarolKaye

      It’s amazing how those types of comments seem to be made as if those people are being forced to play the remake. It’s preposterous. Nobody’s taking the original away from them.

      Anyway, don’t let them get to you. Jackasses like that were always an inevitable part of a remake getting made. Just be thankful that you aren’t such a miserable loser as to turn this into a thing to be upset about.

      • LordKaiser

        It’s just mainly the battle system what is concerning. Pay attention to the argument. This is people who want it menu based without but everything else changed vs. Oeople that want absolute change even if made a ARPG.

        • 小豆梓@ツンデレペタンw

          The turn-based battle system the original game had no longer works in 2015. Deal with it.

          • LordKaiser

            Bravely Default, Trails of Cold Steel say hi.

            • Joshua ‘Near’ River’z

              I would enjoy it as what it is though, if they’re going to make it an ARPG at least make it feel enjoyable as or closer to the original, no not XV, it sucks.

          • Ryan Frigge

            it would work for the ppl that originally played the game wanting it to be remade

          • Hikari Langley

            Atelier Shallie wants to meet you, also Persona 5 is going to shocking hearing that. You just need to learn how to have patience, strategy can still be a good thing.

            • 小豆梓@ツンデレペタンw

              >implying I don’t play turn-based games
              >implying a more action-oriented system doesn’t use strategies
              >implying Shallie’s turn-based system is the same as the original VII
              >mfw XII, XIII (and by extension, XV) have better battle systems than the original VII
              >mfwihnf

              I’ll probably laugh my ass off when Squeenix announces that the remake will have a XV-like battle system.

              • Hikari Langley

                And I’ll just sigh, it doesn’t require any strategy. Action battles really do not require any what so ever. They are too easy. You sound like turn based is old, it’s more refined, than just button mashing. I remember how I had to limit myself just to die.

        • NotCarolKaye

          I guess I’d rather just enjoy it for what it is, than complain about what it isn’t.

          • LordKaiser

            We don’t even know what the hell it will be lol.

            • NotCarolKaye

              Exactly. So why is anyone upset?

              • LordKaiser

                More concern than anything really.

  • LordKaiser

    Well I think everyone posted how they want their remake to be and how they don’t want it to be. So we mostly have 2 camps.

    A- People who want the battle system to be menu based without AI (I’m avoiding the word turn based to avoid being lectured on how in a technical way ATB is not turn based blah blah) Many on this camp also want the airship exploration etc. But everything else can change, those who want the story to not be changed are few.

    B- People who either wants a full remake and absolute change even if it turns it into a ARPG or simply people that will just accept any type of change.

    I had posted everything that I want and what I don’t want so I think my points are clear.

    I don’t feel that there will not be any concensus at all so this whole topic will no go anywhere.

    To end this I will just add that Menu based games without AI are still being made and saying that they only belong to the past is false.

    Anyway I don’t have any else to contribute to this topic so I’m done here.

    I suggest that people let their feelings know to SE by using twiiter if they have a page over there.

  • Sky Langford

    Most people on this board may or may not be fully aware of the impact the games I am about to mention made in the game industry. To most on this board, you might be of the younger generation and may not even know half of these games or have ever played them. To most on this board, and I could be very wrong, FF VII was the end all be all for you concerning video games. Games like: FF IV, FF VI, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, Act Raiser, Super Metroid, Contra III: Alien Wars, Zelda: a link to the past, and Super Castlevania IV were all games that made a far bigger impact than FF VII ever did. You ask, why am I babbling away about all these random titles. Well, these titles did something that FF VII could not do nor will ever do. They stood the test of time. Even today, people who play these long forgotten titles, are still amazed at how ahead of their time these games really were. For instance, FF VI which is widely regarded as the greatest Final Fantasy and let alone one of the greatest games of all time, can still be played and enjoyed today just as much as it was back in 1994. Can you truly say that about FF VII with a straight face? Does anyone know why companies even make remakes/re-imagining of games? Most of you might think of me as an FF VII hater since fan boys, especially of this title become very defensive very quickly and maybe for good reason. You see, sometimes, the truth is better to ignore than to admit. May you all clamor together and scoff at me but at the end of the day, time tells everything………

    • Jay

      I’ve enjoyed many of those games growing up… Still regard FFVII as the best of them. Chrono Trigger and Contra do hold a special place.

      It’s all opinions.

      • Sky Langford

        Its a matter of opinions up to a certain point and I don’t mean to sound redundant but time tells everything. Good, bad or indifferent. Opinions are opinions but when the obvious is evident, its hard to deny anything and everything. I grew up in the old era of Video games as I have played and enjoyed everyone of those mentioned above as well. In fact, for all of you fan boys out there, I remember playing and beating FF VII in Japanese with my modded PS before it ever hit american shores as I was one of the many who bought into the hype at the time. It wouldn’t be for another 5 years that I would realize just how over hyped this game really was. In fact, I completely forgot VII even existed until this news of a remake. I couldn’t even tell you what events had even taken place in the game other than Aerith’s death. But yet, I could somehow remember all of those wonderful events from FF VI. I could remember Kefka’s evil laugh, I could remember the phantom train, I could remember the espers, I could remember the world of ruin, I could remember Narshe and who could forget the infamous opera scene. That’s just a few of what I remember from this title. This is also a game mind you that I hadn’t played since its initial release here in the states back in late 1994 under the title Final Fantasy III. So I wonder, was I just missing something with FF VII? Mind you, I beat the game both in Japanese as well as English so I played a double dose of it. Its just that after all these years, FF VII looks now like a old used up whore, who was once pretty and good at the time, but later sagged and faded. Now their trying to bring back this old whore with a little bit of make up…..Whether this old whore with the make up is good or bad, remains to be seen, but with the track record that the FF series has produced from VII and on, I wouldn’t place my bets on it……

        • yunsofprovo

          Once again, like stated above…that is your opinion, which is fine. Overall, Final Fantasy VII is what made JRPG’s appealing to a mass gaming audience. That is a fact. I also grew up playing all those games on SNES. I played FFI, IV, and VI all the time before VII came out. VII is what most people started with and is the most popular of the series, and that can’t be denied. My personal favorites of the series are VIII, I, and IV, but I can’t deny that FFVII is the reason Final Fantasy is a popular series.

          • Sky Langford

            I completely agree with all of the above. You of all the people on this board have made the most sense. FF VII is indeed responsible for JRPG’s appealing to a mass audience and it is a fact. FF VII also introduced 3D and FMV’s in the JRPG genre and that is also a fact. As I commented to Zak earlier, it is hard to compare Cartridge vs CD. You can ship arguably 20 to 50x the copies of a CD based game then you can of a Cartridge based game. So the popularity war will always go to VII simply because of that. FF VII was in the right place at the right time. FF VII was also one of the main reasons (the other being the rise of the 1st person shooters) that the FF series and JRPG’s would sink back into obscurity and mediocrity once again for the next decade and a half due to all these games repeating the same formula that FF VII had. The formula was good for the time but has ultimately been the downfall of the FF series and JRPG’s ever since. Xenoblade (one of my personal favs) has somewhat refined the genre and given it a breath of new life but even that game is a failure due to it not selling as well as it should have which goes onto to show that most people, especially in the states and europe, are not receptive to the JRPG genre and that it is as obscure as ever and fading fast.

    • Animal Gray

      I’m twenty-four and I’ve played just about all those games on that list. I can honestly say I hold V-IX in a higher place than all of those games. The sense of wonder and character presented by Final Fantasy VII in 1997 was mind blowing to me. I’ll never forget my first foray into 3D jrpgs and I don’t see how to can say these games don’t hold up… I’m currently playing Bloodborne on PS4, but also playing Final Fantasy IX, X, and XII on Mac Playstation emulators. These games are simply legendary.

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      I played FFVII for the first time a few years ago, it is now my favorite game. Many on here have done the same and loved the game just as much.

      You might not like it but FF7 is one of the most influential games of all time. It is more influential and loved than 6, and is to a much higher degree regarded as the best game of all time.

      • Sky Langford

        kudos to you kid that your into playing older games. I give you credit as most of the younger gen is into 1st person shooters as they have taken over gaming completely. RPG’s, especially JRPG’s, have taken a serious back seat in gaming and will more than likely continue to do so for the next decade. And on your response to FF VII being one of the most influential games ever, I’m not even sure that it was even that influential in the JRPG genre that you claim it to be if that was what you were trying to say. Sure, 3D environments and FMV’s were influential in the JRPG genre but when I think influential, especially all time, I think the obvious choices:

        Platform – Mario, Zelda, Castlevania.

        Shooters: Space invaders.

        1st Person Shooters: Doom.

        RPG/Strategy: Final Fantasy (original) and Warcraft.

        And if we should go further the pundits seem to disagree with your claim that FF VII is the best FF of all time and the best game of all time.

        Kotaku- FF VI #1 FF of all time
        IGN- FF VI #1 greatest RPG of all time
        IGN- FF VI #1 FF of all time
        RPGFan- FF VI #1 FF of all time
        Games Radar- FF VI #1 FF of all time
        Techno Buffalo- FF VI #1 FF of all time
        Game Informer- FF VI #1 FF of all time
        Gaming Bolt- FF VI #1 FF of all time
        Controller Crusade- FF VI #1 FF of all time
        Arcade Sushi- FF VI #1 FF of all time

        here’s the actual websites.

        http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/12/29/ranking-the-final-fantasy-series

        http://www.gamesradar.com/best-final-fantasy-games/

        http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/03/21/final-fantasy-best-game/

        http://kotaku.com/5979711/lets-rank-the-final-fantasy-games-best-to-worst

        http://arcadesushi.com/best-final-fantasy-games/

        http://www.rpgfan.com/features/Best_of_Final_Fantasy/best_main.html

        http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/12/02/ranking-the-final-fantasy-series.aspx?PostPageIndex=5

        http://gamingbolt.com/top-10-final-fantasy-games-of-all-time

        http://controllercrusade.com/ranking-the-final-fantasy-series-from-worst-to-best/

        http://www.ign.com/top/rpgs

        So there’s my proof. Whew……

        • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

          You want to do that? Just add random peoples opinions?

          Well I guess I can do that too-

          Gamespot- greatest games of all time- ff7

          Empire Online 2 greatest game of all time

          FF7 greatest rpg of all time

          http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-greatest-games-of-all-time-final-fantasy-vii/1100-6155700/

          http://www.empireonline.com/100greatestgames/?p=2

          http://www.gameskinny.com/fzcgp/why-final-fantasy-vii-is-still-the-best-rpg-ever-made

          I am to lazy to do more, but I can end this rather fast. You used other peoples opinions as proof to your statment, well guess what?!

          Lets look at sales first! ff7-9.7+ ff6-2.5+

          More people wanted ff7 D:

          Now for scores!!!

          Gamespots User reviews, not single person- ff7-9.5..FF6-9.3

          D: Looks like more people rated it higher too!

          :/ It is fine to like the game and love it, but saying it is higher regarded is crazy. FF7 is scary loved. Whether it is better or not is up to you, it is subjective.

          • Sky Langford

            Lol so this is a mud slinging contest or should I say rather shit slinging? Fair enough. Pop Quiz KingKellogg! Oh boy how we all love the dreaded pop quiz. Remember when your teacher would randomly give you the “pop quiz”? So here’s your question’s for today and guess what, its multiple choice!

            1. Why exactly did FF VII sell so much more than any other JRPG game before it?

            A. It Introduced new 3D graphics and FMV which were never present in a JRPG game before it
            B. JRPG’s weren’t popular before FF VII both in america and japan
            C. CD based games were much cheaper to Produce in Mass quantity as opposed to the more expensive cartridge base games
            D. A and C are True
            E. None in the above

            2. What measure of success did FF VII leave?

            A. It set a new standard of success for JRPG’s that is still used today
            B. It set a new standard of success for JRPG’s that was successful but began to falter as time went on
            C. It did not leave a measure of success
            D. A and B are True
            E. None in the above

            3. What makes a game great?

            A. Games are only great if they have mass appeal
            B. Great story and characters
            C. Excellent graphics
            D. Excellent music
            E. B and D are True
            F. None in the above

            4. Why are games remade?

            A. Because only great games are ever remade
            B. Because the company producing the title can make/needs more money
            C. Because the original did not convey the message it was trying to get across
            D. B and C are True
            E. None in the above

            5. Is a CD base game cheaper to produce than a cartridge base game?

            A. No, CD’s are much more expensive
            B. No, Cartridges are much more expensive
            C. They both are equally expensive
            D. None in the above

            6. Why were CD base games invented?

            A. CD’s are much more cost effective and can produce a larger profit margin
            B. CD’s are extremely cheap to mass produce
            C. Cartridges are too expensive to mass produce
            D. CD’s are much cheaper to ship in bulk
            E. A, B, C, D are True
            F. None in the above

            7. If it were another title that were in place of FF VII at that time, would it have been as effective in sales and popularity?

            A. Yes, any JRPG game that demonstrated state of the art 3D environments and the new FMV would have succeeded
            B. No, only FF VII would have succeeded, because well, its FF VII
            C. Only FF VI or Chrono Trigger would have been able to do what FF VII did
            D. None of the above

            8. If FF VII were released on cartridge and not CD, would it have sold as well as it did?

            A. Of course, its FF VII and its the greatest game ever made
            B. No, FF VII would have sold just as well or maybe less than the others
            C. Maybe and maybe not, cartridges are extremely expensive and cannot be mass produced the way a CD can
            D. None of the above

            9. Did you like this pop quiz?

            A. No, I fucking hate it! fuck off and die!
            B. It was ok, kind of a yawn fest though
            C. Yes, it was actually somewhat interesting
            and I actually learned something that I never thought of and can learn form other people just like they can learn from me
            D. None of the above

            10. What is the percentage you think you scored on this pop quiz?

            A. 90-100 percent.
            B. 80-89 percent.
            C. 70-79 percent
            D. 60-69 percent
            E. 50-59 percent

            Enjoy!

            • Dub-Sempar Pa

              Face it fan boy ff7 is more lived and nor popular

              • Sky Langford

                is more lived and nor popular? Oh, I would heavily agree with you. But I was not talking about a nor popularity contest, I was talking about why the games I listed above were lived and set the standard for gaming “fan boy”.

                • Dub-Sempar Pa

                  is more loved and popular. it was loved by more people and so other games try to copy,they fail and some ddnt . you are the fan boy. everyone can see ot. You talk down to us all but you just talk nonsense. you deny facts to support your own danboyism

                  • Sky Langford

                    So because I can talk down to you with my nonsense, and according to you, I am the fan boy, and you are not (of course), let me ask you this question. Because something is more popular, does that make it better and more beloved? I will use an analogy. If you are familiar with the NFL, and I’m not sure if you are or not, universally in the entire United States, the Dallas Cowboys have the biggest and most revered fan base. Does that make the Dallas Cowboys a more beloved team and better historically? No. Does that make them the best team ever? No. In fact, I can think of about 5 other teams that are better than the Dallas Cowboys historically, one being the Green Bay Packers, and by the way I am neither a fan of the NFL anymore nor a former fan of either of these franchises. So how does this apply to FF VII? Well, FF VII has the largest and most revered fan base (or so you claim, and we will go along with your claim just for kicks). Now, does that make FF VII more beloved and better historically? No. Does it make FF VII the best JRPG ever? No. So I’m assuming that this is what you are trying to convey to me in your above post. Are you sure your not trying to deny the facts I am presenting to you with your own danboyism?

            • Sky Langford

              And for extra credit KingKellogg, you may answer this question in essay form.

              Since the initial release of FF VII, the JRPG genre in a whole has fallen victim to mediocrity and has become as obscure as it ever was. Is there any kind of innovation out there that may solve this dilemma and save the JRPG from extinction?

    • Yuntu

      Well I played 7 in like 2013 and liked it, sometimes even loved it.

    • Zak

      You sound not only very presumptous, but also full of yourself.

      I have played every single game on your list, and I love most of them so I’m not hating on your choices. However the way you present it is extremely haughty and I wanted to tell you to get over yourself before I was halfway done reading your gibberish.

      Your right that many of those games stand the test of time and are still fun today, but it’s asinine to claim that ffvii didn’t. Have you seen how heavily you can mod the PC version? People ae still playing it every day and loving it. Claiming that it’s just easy to ignore the truth, or that you have the undisputed truth about something based more on opinion than fact is foolish as well and saying that vii doesn’t stand the test of time is to ignore everything from the fact that it’s still played by a large modding community to the fact that I replay it at least once a year. None of those games, a couple of which are better than vii(chrono trigger) had done what vii did, which is to make rpg’s appeal to a large market of more than just the usual niche. All those games are good, but none of them opened the world of gaming and made it “cool” if you will excuse the expression, the way that vii did.

      Vi may be a better game (it is) but it didn’t have the same audience and the same impact as vii. It just didn’t. I would like to see a few of those games remade to for current gen tech, or maybe even wait a little longer until there can be a full virtual reality remake, but I’m very excited for this game and very hopeful that they will get it right and not disgrace such a beautiful and well told story. Even though mostly opinion anyway, yor argument falls short in it’s claim that vii doesn’t pass the test of time just because you didn’t enjoy it as much as others did. Maybe your one of the people who dislikes it just to be different, or maybe you have a list of reasons that you just failed to mention, but your claim is definitely baseless without any supporting information besides what you think.
      Your absolutely wrong to think your the only gamer who remembers the glory days, check the average age of gamers these days and you will find that most of us who grew up loving games. Some of us (me) even went so far as to earn a degree in the game development field and spend their lives making games.

      Saying thst vii doesn’t deserve a remake, won’t have a good remake or isn’t a classic game that clearly surpasses the test of time and stays relevant just because of your personal feeling of superiority over gamers (yor wrong about that too) is to blatantly ignore all the lives this game touched, and to deny the tase of countless gamers who are

      • Sky Langford

        Hey Zak! Just got done reading your long comment and will address my latest gibberish accordingly to what you said with an even longer and more boring comment. By the way, calling me haughty and full of myself, well, I will take that as a compliment. Name calling and attacking an individual is typical of this fan base which I addressed in my earlier post but thank god its not the Panzer Dragoon RPG crowd. They get really nasty lol. Anyways we both agree that the games I listed have stood the test of time. Check! No I do not know anything about a heavily modded FF VII game for the PC. It must be an underground thing and I don’t go that deep. If a game needs to be heavily modded to be playable than it must not be that great in its original version. Enough said. Saying that I claim I have the undisputed truth, well, I don’t, but time certainly does which I will get to in a bit. I do agree with you that none of the games listed above made an impact in appealing to a mass audience like VII did. But if this is simply a popularity contest, then you and me are fighting a meaningless war. See, cartridge based games are much more expensive to produce than a cd base game. Hence, you can arguably ship out 20 to 50x the copies of a cd based game than you can ship out of a cartridge based game. So of course a cd based game is going to be much more popular and of course a game that is first entering a 3D phase is going to be popular in an era that was just beginning 3D. Does that make it better because its more popular?????? And about the “usual” niche you mentioned, I would argue that most of the games I listed, especially FF VI, were not in that category and had just of an open word which if you pardon the expression, made them “cool”. We both agree VI is the better game. Check!. No VI, did not have the same audience as VII did, and I think I went over that earlier regarding cartridges vs cd. I would be fully against a remake of any of the earlier FF games as they were perfect the way they were. And again, no one ever answered my question on my prior post as to why games are remade. Oh well. Whether they do this remake right or wrong is irrelevant. If I had to place a bet in Vegas right now, I would bet fans won’t be to thrilled as FF has had a bad track record the last 15 years or so with the exception of IX. If it is done right, feel free to let me know your right. I will walk away with my loss smiling. You say that mostly opinion anyways, my argument doesn’t have any claim or falls short about VII standing the test of time. Now is where we get to the good stuff. Remember when I said we were going to talk about how time is the undisputed truth? Well here goes nothing! As we all well know, FF VII expanded the market for JRPG’s since they were at the time obscure. FF VII was responsible for helping by introducing a full 3D game with FMV’s, something an RPG had not done before. Am I saying that FF VII was not influential in this development? No. Am I saying that FF VII didn’t help expand the market for the obscure JRPG genre? No. I guess what I’m trying to get at is, what happened after and the legacy it left (if any). See, when you leave a legacy, your leaving a measure of success. That success should translate to help other games in the future succeed. Well, what happened? As we all know, FF VII would soon fall victim to age much like a game I personally adored but now look at the same way in Panzer Dragoon RPG and became as memorable to most except their followers as that old whore you fucked 10 years ago assuming your my age. In fact, one could FF VII didn’t leave a legacy. As we all know, Final Fantasy would once again fall into obscurity and mediocrity with every other JRPG over the next decade and has continued ever since. Games like Xenoblade (which I am a huge fan of) have somewhat revised the JRPG genre to give it some life support, but even that has seemed to fail. Is games like FF VII which influenced the journey into mediocrity for FF and the JRPG genre to blame, or is the 1st person shooters that did it. I personally would go with both. Companies measured FF VII as a level of success. And now I ask you Zak, what legacy (if any) did FF VII leave? What is the last JRPG you can think of that stunned, sold the world market and pundits alike? And to say that I believe I am the only gamer who remembers the glory days, well, god I hope I’m not lol, But that is exactly what they were, the glory days. And I am glad you are in the gaming field. I honestly hope you succeed and can bring back those glory days that I miss and most gamers of my gen miss. And as pertaining to me saying FF VII doesn’t deserve a remake, oh no, it does. Remember that imperfect games must be remade because they couldn’t get the message across the first time. Personally, I don’t feel any more superior than you do I? I’m not blatantly ignoring the lives and tastes of countless gamers. If this game made them happy, then all the more power to them. My message was that FF VII was not the end all be all of games. It was not the first game under the sun and is certainly not the last………

        • Zak

          Well, I wanted to find a bunch of misinformation to disagree with just based on your first comment, but i didn’t find that this time. I found a well written response with a few things I would argue/add to.

          First and most importantly.. I don’t even remember that whores name, so yeah..

          But seriously. You argued that because cd’s are cheaper to make and can be shipped in larger numbers because of that, that a game on CD will sell better. That’s not totally accurate as the content of the CD has to be able to pull in and keep an audience the same as a cartridge. There have been cartridges that have far outsold many CDs and are still in demand based on their content. Just having a million of something vs 200k doesn’t mean that they are going to sell. Vii sold because it’s a great and fun game.

          The modding community for it is awesome! You should do a google search and see some of the upgrades. I’ve seen some videos when I was feeling nostalgic of oeople who have it all HD and new character models in combat and just an all around prettier wrapping. That doesn’t mean the game was unplayable in it’s original form though, it means that the fans who grew up with the game were passionate enough to make ther own projects, which they didn’t make any money off of, to try to make the game grow and evolve with the time. Any mod you see is a labor of love.

          I’m guessing you dont game on PC since u didn’t mention baldurs gate in yor games that stand the test of time. Baldurs gate is easily one of my favorite games ever. I play it at least once a year and make a new character. That game is more heavily modded than any game I’ve ever seen, and the only game I have ever played modded (I’m old school, but I LOVE that damn game so much) and the fact that it can be so heavily modded in my mind shows evidence that it HAS passed the test of time, as the fanbase is passionate enough to dedicate their free time laboring to add to the game on some way. You can actually add new quests, items, characters and basically anything you could imagine to baldurs
          Gate. As far as I know, with vii you can only add to cosmetics and make it look more modern, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be played as is, it’s just that the conversion from standard to high definition makes a huge difference on a 3d game, especially an early 3d game. More of a difference that just making vi HD would make.

          I agree that vii is not the end all be all, clearly becuse of the games you listed and others you omitted, and I think I missed yor point because I thought you were arguing that vii didn’t deserve a remake.

          I think your original full of yourself message rubbed me the wrong way. I didn’t mean that as a personal attack as much as just an observation about how you talk to people. It was like you were talking down to people you haven’t even talked to yet. This reply to me was well worded though and showed more respect than I expected from a message board so im over the first post. Im still very excited for this, but I really hope they do it justice. Time will tell as you said.
          Now as for the legacy comment, I forgot about that until just now and I’m not restructuring my gibberish response in just gonna address it now, indont agree totally with your thoughts on it. You said that if it left a great legacy that it would help other games in the genre to sell well, and it did. The legacy of vii helped them sell 8 9 and 10 in my opinion, and it was a decline in quality over the years that lead to a decline in the market. I can’t back that up, but I don’t think it’s fair to base this games legacy on the success or failure of mediocre games that followed (I love 8 and 9 for the record) I feel like it’s legacy is alive and well with it’s modding community and with all of us who really love and enjoy the game. I think it’s my favorite after vi, which was just ridiculously good. I wouldn’t want to see a remake vi though, vi is a 2d game and I don’t see a remake being able to add much except maybe an extended story (which is doesn’t need)

          I feel like a remake of vii has huge potential though, not just because of the wide market it could appeal to, but because of the style of the game itself. It was an early 3d game and it’s visuals were a huge part of the story telling. Making it look beautiful with top of the line technology could potentially (if handled correctly) add tremendously to the enjoyment to an already amazing game.

          Just hoping they do it right. If they do then we all win n

          • Sky Langford

            Hey Zak! Sorry for late response, long work week lol. In a way, cartridge based games can outsell CD based games but again that is very rare. In the case for Zelda Ocarina of time, it shipped world wide 7.60 million copies which has outsold quite a few CD based games but I think there is one thing I did forget to mention in my above post. Marketing. Both FF VII and Zelda OOT, were both mass marketing campaigns, and were extremely successful and efficient in what they did. My hats off to both Squaresoft and Nintendo. I will peek into the modding of this game. It does seem interesting as I am sure there have been other games that may have been modded that I used to like. Yeah, I mean I did grow up a little bit on the PC. I was a big fan of the original Duke Nukem, Warcraft II, and Starcraft, but left shortly after. I had a couple of friends who had Baldur’s gate and yes you are absolutely correct, that game has stood the test of time and actually really continues to amaze people. I believe its Baldur’s gate II which is always at or near the top of the greatest RPG’s ever made but I myself have never played any of them. I believe that Warcraft II and Starcraft have also stood the test of time. Sorry Duke Nukem, but your out lol.
            Hey Zak, no worries on your comments in your earlier post. I take nothing to offense and completely respect you as an individual the same way as you respect me and I do appreciate your comments on this post. Were all human right? As for the legacy of VII, what I was trying to get across to everyone, was that it was a formula for success and for a while though as time went on, it lost its luster. Now, as that formula kept being used and being used, it began to wear at the players who were playing that game and people began to wonder if they were playing the last game they beat, just with a different title attached. The formula was, and this is not verbatim, make a game that uses full 3D rendered environments and an endless supply of FMV. Also, make the main character an amnesiac emo pretty boy/girl that has a rival that is equally and emo pretty boy/girl who becomes the bad guy and final boss who may or may not kill the other emo pretty boys family or friends. And yes FF VI, you are guilty of the amnesiac part. Its almost literally the same thing the 1st person shooter genre has done. Make a game with lots of things blowing up and lots of mindless gore. You are usually a spy, a soldier, or a higher up, and you must stop the infiltration of a nuclear threat or terrorism in the middle east, russia, or near your homeland. I don’t have a whole lot of faith that games are ever going to get better but companies like Monolith Soft do give me some hope as Xenoblade Cross is looking very promising though that remains to be seen as we will not have a chance at it till Dec 4th. Another game that is always off the radar is Nier. I can tell you in case you have never played it, it is quite the experience and if you ever get the chance, play it, you won’t regret it! And don’t be fooled by the lousy graphics either lol. I completely agree 100% with you on FF VI. I do not want a remake either. It was perfect the way it was, just like IV was. I never played V, so I couldn’t tell you whether that game needs one or not. I think also that a VII remake has huge potential but this is where it gets spotty. This remake is apparently a re-imagining as we have found out in the last couple days or so. From what we know, the story will deviate from the original as will the game play. Whether they do this re-imagining thing right or not, we will see. One thing is for sure though, Square could learn a lot from the mistakes of Monolith Soft and what they tried to do in the past with their re-imagining. Anyways, take care bro and go make that game industry better. Were cheering for ya!

            • Jøe Ramirez

              It’s been interesting reading this conversation between you two. It’s nice to see a civilized debate every once in a while in a comment section.

              I’m just here to let you know that Nomura has already confirmed they have plans to remake V and VI. It isn’t exactly 100% that they WILL, but they are exploring the idea.
              http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/17/e3-2015-final-fantasy-7-wont-be-a-simple-remake-says-nomura

              • Sky Langford

                Oh god no! I heard the same thing. I hope Kefka strikes down Nomura and Square with his light of judgment lol……..

    • Zak

      Who are more excited for this than I am (more than a little)

      So that’s the long way of saying your opinion isn’t better than anybody else’s and not only that it ignores the facts and statistics.
      Get over yourself, and have fun believejnf your the last gamer who remembers hoe epic rpg’s were in the Super Nintendo days. Your one drop of water in a full bucket and we all remember.

    • LunarHaven

      I’ve replayed FF VII, 2 times the recent years. I played it originally in 1998 the first time, and YES I can say with a straight face, I enjoy it as much now as I did back then so yeah. *deletes your entire post* XD

    • Christof Milando

      I completely respect your opinion, but I think you’re being a little harsh on FFVII. I played this game back in 2000 and have played it to completion (albeit often minus all the side quests) every 2 years – no exaggeration. It is the #1 game in my life, and I have played FF4/5/6 as well – all great games, and I would love to see a current revamp of FF6! I have also played FF8/9/10 numerous times. I do not understand how you can say that FF7 hasn’t stood the test of time. It’s one of the only games that has, I feel! I don’t even care that the graphics and language are terrible haha.

  • Frankie MacDonald

    In Final Fantasy VII Remake are there going to be Cactuar, Diablos and Gilgamesh Summon Materia?

    • Colin Reichard

      As none of us commenting are involved in making it, I’m not sure anyone can answer this for sure.
      But I’d say it’s very likely. :)

  • James Endique

    From the trailer, I have a strong feeling we’re about to get an FFVII-2 and maybe even a VII-3. Why, you ask? Well, st the beginning we see post-meteor scenes. Add in the fact that certain recent numbered FF games have used the same game engine to make sequels (X and XIII) it’s not too farfetched that S-E would want to pump out more money using the same game engine they’re about to use for the VII remake. But honestly, I don’t know how to feel about that.

    • Jay

      I don’t know how I feel about that either… I could see them doing it, and I could see me buying it. :(

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      Not sure if want…

    • Yuntu

      My guess is they use either Unreal or Luminious Engine for this game.

    • Colin Reichard

      Yeah. If they’re quick money makers like se has been trying to pull off lately. I’m probably just going to find myself disappointed. On the other hand what if they make it well thought out with muse driven chapters? If the story were inspired? If they didn’t take shortcuts and they stayed attentive to all the nuances like music and atmosphere, it would be something I would very much enjoy. However, I don’t see it happening that way. :P

    • Wiccan1109

      If the post meteor scene meant anything beyond it’s reunion theme and allusion to the fans, it would likely mean additional post meteor content, an episode or dlc in the game itself, which is not uncommon in remakes and enhanced versions.

      It was a trailer for FFVIIR, a game that will likely take them over 2 years minimum to make. =O There’d be little point advertising an FFVII-2 in the same trailer, (especially when it is the first and only thing we’ve been shown of the game.) it would be an unnecessary delay on an already hefty project, considering 2017 is the anniversary and a perfect release window. XV and KH3 still aren’t finished and are sharing staff too. I would not worry about sequels for a good few years yet, if ever. I also don’t think theres anywhere left to go after Advent Children and DoC either, it pretty much tied up everything. This remake was due, but it will likely be the final piece of the compilation, making it all feel truly complete.

  • Animal Gray

    I’m stoked they are actually speaking on the VII remake, I was afraid they would announce it then go silent for a couple years (gun shy after Versus XIII). Anyway, realistic battle system sounds great. Been playing Final Fantasy for eighteen years and I would dread to play through VII with that same outdated turn based battle system *yawn*. I’m a believer after that XV demo, update that shit, just keep the wackiness and 90s art design. Give me the same enemies, weapons, materia magic, and summons and we’ll be gucci. I’m all for experimentation in gameplay if the core essence of the game in intact.

    • Deanings

      Turn based battle makes FFVII.

      How are you supposed to properly use the materia system without time wait turn based combat?

      “Final Fantasy VII is special, and we can’t ‘exceed’ the game by simply ”

      Actually that’s exactly what I would be excited about . I’m all for adding content but it’s sacrilege if they change one single mechanic

      • Yuntu

        “Turn based battle makes FFVII.”
        Really? For me the game was good because of the characters, music and story.

        • swiss

          yeah FFVII wasnt known from its turn-based
          (System is a different thing)
          Story,characters,music,and the world made FFVII well FFVII if people are talking about FFVII they are either talking about a certain event of the game/story or about the characters/music mostly not the turn based gameplay.
          plus materia’s are just items you can put in your equipment.

    • Colin Reichard

      Agreed. I’d like a choice between old face lifted nostalgia and new revamp (sometimes I like being able to play with one hand)
      Whatever happens, this is epic! :D

  • Dual_Heart

    Genesis and the like better get ****ing cameos.

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      I’d prefer slight mentions in paperwork or something. I don’t want them to keep the changes that were made by other people in AC-Comp.

  • KaozVL122

    No Cisnnei? :( sucks v.v

    • Lara Croft

      She isn’t new. So she might appear.

  • Lara Croft

    “Since we’re bringing out PlayStation 4 title after PlayStation 4 title, it’d be great if we can give the hardware and industry a boost.” Nomura’s love for the PS brand is clear as day.

    That makes me happy. Since the PS4 is the only console they are developing the game on. They can utilize it to its full potential.

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      Id prefer to keep CC/dirge seperate.

  • Jay

    #TeamTurnBased

    Glad to know they’re at least keeping the cast original.

  • Judith

    Make Cash Now 84$ daily@gematsu

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  • highsky00

    So the graphics in game will surpass the teaser trailer? O.O .

    • Yuntu

      That was CGI, of course the game won’t look nearly as good. He basically said the videos in game are going to look better than the teaser-CGI. Which is normal for a SE game.

      • highsky00

        ok i got it , thank you :D

      • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

        The last part looked in engine, the shaders did at least.

        • Yuntu

          I doubt it, unless this maybe was from a build run on a PC. PS4 would probably not be able to run something like it.

          • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

            Looking at it, the models at the end aren’t SUPER detailed, they are very but not to far out, just look at Noctis in FFXV, his model is 100k polygons, these would easily be able to be made in that range, especially if this is just a cutscene, which the PS4 could handle. ( see QD tech demo)

            • Yuntu

              You mean the one with the sorcerer? Yeah that looked insane. But wouldn’t this game cost them so much money if they do all cutscenes in that render-quality? I mean SE is a graphic-whore most of the time … but to spend so much money? I dunno …

              • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                Yup!It isn’t likely but it is possible. Would just be friggen hard and expensive. But it is FF7.

                I would prefer gameplay being good over mega visuals.

                • Yuntu

                  Same here, but we all know SE always trys to put in both. Just that it doesn’t work always.

                  • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                    They need to do better gameplay. At least KH does a great job with that.

                    • Yuntu

                      I think XV is going the right direction. I kinda trust Tabata due to Type-0. And with XV it seems like he can do way more stuff he could do with a spinoff.

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      Type-0 left the opposite feeling for me, the shallow characters, the incredibly HORRIBLE moogles. The boring combat..It just left a bad taste in my mouth, not to mention he is obsessed with using things he did in previous games.

                    • Yuntu

                      I thought the Type-0 combat was fast and fun. But yeah the characters are boring, mainly due to the fact that they have too many in that game. But it’s not like he writes the story and characters, right?

                    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                      He sadly does have his hand in the story, just look at CC, he seemed to have changed up stuff in there. ( adding fights etc) stuff that just contradicts FF7.

                    • Yuntu

                      I guess we will see how much he changed, I mean Nojima must have some saying in all this. I really hope they give more info on the story starting with GamesCom.

  • Seventh Heaven

    I hope SE didn’t remove the world map and replace it with fast travel, using ff7’s original world map will be fine i think, same scale and ofc with better improvements but no need using high polygonal model as standard SE graphic. Put mini/chibi Cloud and mini mountains/trees there so it will save some cost and time in this project.

    • Jøe Ramirez

      I would understand if they made this choice. The chibi characters on the world map may take away from the “gritty” tone they seem to be going for, but it would be a smart choice. Plus it might add a little more light heartedness :)

  • Colin Reichard

    I’m all for experimentation too. But turn based battles are something I have always enjoyed. I guess cause it doesn’t demand immediate attention. (Sometimes I enjoy being able to play with one hand)
    I Especially enjoyed ff7 with the Materia/slots system. It is truly iconic of final fantasy 7 and my favorite battle system thus far. While I would love to experience their experimentation with a new battle system. I would value the choice to start a game using the old battle system. with a facelift of sorts, of course. Other than that want, I’d say the free panned out world map is crucial.
    Very excited! :)

    • Blaqsailens .

      Well they’re releasing the FF7 HD port on PS4 soon so there wouldn’t be much point in releasing a second “HD HD” port later. Plus you can already mod FF7 on PC with better character models, textures, and other things of the sort. Although the choice to simply play the game with the old battle simply would be great.

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      I want action and the atb! separate.

  • Katt G.

    I’m just so happy they are making a remake of my favorite final fantasy game.

    I played this game when upon release in 1997! Yes, I’m old! But it’ll always have special in my heart.

    I am very glad they are keeping the characters the same. I simply would not play it if they had changed the characters. I couldn’t imagine playing ff7 without my favorite ff character of all time, Barret. I just love Barret. I just love tough-looking characters with big hearts :)

    I hope they don’t change the story much. The story is what drew me in the first place, so dark and creepy and deep.

    • Frank Doomrider Johansen

      hey man, I just heard, not gonna be a remake, gonna be a reimagining. Remake is dead!

      • Jøe Ramirez

        i seriously doubt they will change the core of the game. They won’t change the story drastically, if anything it needed to be fixed a little. I love this game, but it was never perfect and it still won’t be when they’re done with the remake.
        I’ve beaten the game far too many times for me to honestly WANT to play the same exact game all over again. I welcome the change.

        • Frank Doomrider Johansen

          I don’t like different versions of the same thing. I think the game is the most perfect game ever made. No other game can even come close for me.
          If you don’t feel like playing the exact same game again, then you play other games until you feel like revisiting. Not ask for a remake of the same game so you can keep playing because you are bored of the original.

          And if you have beaten the game so many times that you need a change in the same product to play it again then you play it far too often. I will never support your mindset here which is basically… OOO I have playing it too many times I’m bored… can I have a different version so it feels new again. I mean wtf! Do you even play other games?

          If you over expose yourself to something your brain becomes bored and you lose focus because your emotions gets numbed. I am replaying FF VII right now on steam and I haven’t played it in a few years and it feels fresh to me.

          • Jøe Ramirez

            Ok, you don’t need to be hostile. Relax. Too bad for you though, Nomura has already said they will be changing things which WILL include the battle system and changes in art style. I, and MANY other fans, are happy that some things will change.
            The original game was never perfect and you’re letting your emotional connection to the game blind you to its faults.
            This is an argument I’m not really trying to have since you think nothing needs to change. Just enjoy the original game, obviously don’t want a remake. Enjoy your PC mods. No one is forcing you to buy the remake, but we know you will anyway. Then you’ll complain, and no one will care at that point.
            At least I’ll be happy they finally remade my favorite RPG :)
            Btw, changing the game is not something I want because I’m bored. I still enjoy the original very much. The only reason I’m in support of changing certain things is because I know EVERY single detail about this game.
            Changes would add that new feeling to the game. Many longtime fans who feel as I do will agree that this can make the game feel exciting for the simple fact that we don’t know what’s new until we experience it again… much like we did as kids when we first played this game.
            With all that said, I wouldn’t hate a straight point for point remake (which would be a remaster by definition… NOT a remake).

            • Frank Doomrider Johansen

              FF VII is my fav game of all time.

              FF IV on DS is a remake the way I support it.

              You can add, not take away. What FF VII might end up being is more of a reimagining, I do not see remake and reimagining as the same thing. Remake is a point to point with only some tweaks and adds and a reimagining gives much more room for random creativity.

              I am not against changing some stuff like the battle system, like updating it in some ways as long as it doesn’t use the FF XV system of only controlling one character. And a 100% deal breaker is if they do not have the vehicles and world map. I must get that nostalgic feeling when I play it. I made a list of changes I would support.

              -More dialogue to further deepen the characters
              -More tactics to make combat even deeper
              -Maybe even more customisation like they did with the augment system in the FF IV remake
              -Drive the Bike in the fields and world map
              -Make all limit breaks available to use instead of choosing a branch.
              -Add more limit breaks and materia for that extra new feeling
              -Increase the effectiveness of elemental and added effect.
              -Make Vincent’s limit forms controllable
              -Also would be cool to actually see the materia in slots on the weapons.

          • Jøe Ramirez

            I will never understand when people say things like this. ” I liked the tedious and dated mechanics of the original, they CAN’T CHANGE it…” Play the original then. I know that isn’t the answer you want to hear, but that’s how it is. They are updating the game while trying to retain a good mix of new and old so no one is completely alienated. THAT is what a “remake” is. What you want is a “remaster”.
            I for one, am very patient. I’ll wait to see if the final product is something worth buying instead of freaking over every little implied change before we even get to see how it actually works. I suggest that for everyone. We all need to chill out.

            • Frank Doomrider Johansen

              You come back and answer a 2 month old comment here :D no matter. What I stand for when it comes to remakes is my own law and quote of “you can add and improve but never remove”

              Changes will always be made to a remake but it should be tasteful and not sellout or become a completely different game.

              Here are a few things that is not allowed to change:

              Worldmap/airship/any vehicles
              Summoning and limit breaks should not be removed
              you have to be able to control all party members.

              • Jøe Ramirez

                I agree with you on all the things you listed there. The battle will change though. They’ve confirmed it and that’s out of our control. All we can do is wait until they release more info or release gameplay footage. At TGS they said they would release more info and footage in the coming months. I’m assuming we’ll see some gameplay at PSX later this year. I’m just hoping I like what I see.

    • Dub-Sempar Pa

      sephiroth will now be gay for cloyd

  • TheBeauJOB

    I hope they pull a sonic generations and let us choose a style we like playing with. Choose old school and go turn based or go modern and make it real time. If it takes too much time that’s fine, they need to go all out on this.

    • sokumo tanaka

      real time wouldn’t really work with the materia system, E.skill, steal/mug, manipulate, morph etc. Making it real time is a bad idea as learning certain enemy skills required you to…not hit them so you can cast it on yourself or the fact you could steal a better weapon for cloud, barret and yuffie early in the game (That be hard when tifa is randomly runing around and killing everything before you got the chance to mug and or cast certain things.) Like how in kingdom hearts 1.5 they idiotically made a heartless you needed to get a material to make the ultimate weapon, and you had to hit it but if donald or goofy hit it the counter goes down, so you had to glitch them to actually have a chance.
      I like your idea of letting us choose but I personally rather have control of my team rather than them getting in my way and or being a nuisance, but that’s just me. They could make it amazing as long as they don’t touch my ff6 and ff9 I’m cool.

      • TheBeauJOB

        I’m sure they could make it work just not the way we are thinking it would. As for controlling your party members, maybe they will incorporate all the versus 13 ideas on ff7 since it’s realistic combat.i don’t know. What I really want to see honestly is how the motorcycle chase scene is gonna play? I hope it’s some advent children level of crazy.

        • sokumo tanaka

          Oh you mean ff 15 or 14, the on with noctice, that still wouldn’t work with materia well unless you completely control the other members actions, which in that case what’s the point of making it real time?

          i kinda agree with others, what isn’t broken don’t fix it. (It may be a remake but no all new rpg’s have to be real time) I think ff7 should stay the way it is in terms of battle system.
          It would make the materia system less complicated than it needs to be.

      • Jøe Ramirez

        They already said they have intentions of remaking FFV and FFVI. Nomura said it didn’t feel right to not remake those games since they were basically skipped to remake VII.

        • sokumo tanaka

          No way, nomura should just leave them be.

  • Frank Doomrider Johansen

    Square said that the FF VII remake isn’t a remake!!!! It is a reimiagining for new fans.. BLASPHEMY!! “Remake” IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Dub-Sempar Pa

      remake is same exact thing. Reimageing mean new graphics and gameplay mot likely

      • Frank Doomrider Johansen

        Reimagining is used more for reusing material and not doing a line by line remake… which means anything can happen with FF VII and nothing is holy anymore. They will change whatever at their own whim which is blasphemy in my book. They had already said that it wouldn’t be a line by line remake and now they solidify it even more by stating that it isn’t a remake, but a reimagining. I now fear that the enly thing that is gonna be recognisable will be the characters and the base plot. They might change up the order of events and even cut and add events as they see fit to create this new vision they have for the game… The word hate comes to mind.

        • Sky Langford

          Everything that you said in the above is completely true Frank! Remember when Monolith Soft tried to make their re imagining of Xenogears in the form of Xenosaga? I recon Xenosaga didn’t sit to well with the fanbase and is but a forgotten title now. With that said, FF VII should be remade, not re imagined. They are completely 2 different things. God, I pray Square keeps their dirty and shameful paws off FF VI……

  • SOLOmio

    there will new characters but they won’t be playable or go into your party! NPC’s!
    just hope they don’t a change of heart and cause the Vaan syndrome again by adding a character who wasn’t suppose to be there!