Sega trademarks Shining Seed in Japan
posted on 02.15.15 at 11:28 AM EDT by (@salromano)
The next entry in the Shining series?

Shining Resonance

Sega has filed a trademark for “Shining Seed” in Japan.

The mark was filed on January 28 and went public on February 10.

The latest entry in Sega’s Shining series of RPGs was Shining Resonance, which was developed by Media Vision and launched for PlayStation 3 in Japan in December.

Thanks, Hachima Kikou.

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  • Shonen Jump

    Hope it’s for the Ps4!

  • NessWonderSprite

    Another entry that Sega will be stupid about and not localized.

    • kurosan9712

      Another entry Sega will be SMART about, and won’t get localized*

      I fixed your statement, no need for thanks.

      • Hidayat246

        i give you one vote LOL

      • OverlordZetta

        There is no such thing as a game not getting localized being smart.

        • FTM

          This isn’t true from a business sense at all, but it’s certainly true for us gamers :P

          • Budgiecat

            you localize to a market that has a demand.

            Else Sony, Toshiba, Hitachi, Toyota, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha, Nintendo, Takara, etc would never localize their merchandise from the start. You dont just close off your borders and expect a fail if you globalize.
            Sue if you have bird brain owners that dont run the business right, there’s a chance for fail, but not if you know what you are doing.

            • PrinceHeir

              I like your way of thinking.

              But i can understand why some of the Japanese games don’t come out outside(fear of bad sales, reputation, false assumptions about them etc).

              Heck some people are already freaking out in games like Dragon’s Crown and Senran Kagura. And they’re tame compared to others on the market lol.

              If they see some of the Ero Games and H-mangas out there, they might have a heart attack LMAO.

              • Budgiecat

                You overestimate their reasoning.
                They do not give a shit about SJWs
                Every game developer and publisher’s intention is to make as much money as possible. There are however boundaries and restrictions upon doing so both intentionally and non intentionally.
                If there’s an audience for it, thats all that matters.
                The problem is whether there really is an audience for it, or if there is, whether the head publisher believes it or not, and if there is a worthy localizer that believes enough in the project.
                And sometimes (S-E), they rely on an outside publisher too much (Nintendo), and that outside publisher is like ‘naw man do it yourself this time’, and as such, they (S-E) seemingly give up, because who likes to spend extra money when theres a possiblility you dont have to?

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

          That’s all well and good if you believe that way, but if you are going with this mentality, then you need to go all the way with it. From now on, when we make games in the West and post articles about them, I want you to go in every single one of them and talk about how stupid it is that we’re not pushing to have them released in Japan.

          • Budgiecat

            Japan’s a smaller market hell bent on not really giving a crap about home console games anymore.

            That and they’re fiercely Xenophobic :p

            The West? Full of gamers who appreciate Japanese games (and weebs) and oh yeah 7 billion population vs 127 million Japanese :p

      • Budgiecat

        I guess Tales of and Bamco with their Naruto UNS series should follow their lead and do the same huh?

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

      Another post that Ness will be stupid about =3=

      • NessWonderSprite

        So your saying you love it that Sega does not localize its own games anymore? haha

  • kurosan9712

    Judging from the name…I bet it’s a social game.
    But if it’s a social game with T2 art…I’m in.

  • SkyKIngLX

    Why can’t Sega just go bankrupt?

    • kurosan9712

      Sammy. They’re keeping Sega alive in their duet for years now.

    • Kenny ケニー

      Why you want them to go bankrupt? I still really enjoying their Yakuza games a lot :/

    • Guest

      Because not everyone is hateful like you and want people to lose their jobs just because we aren’t getting some of their games.

    • Mikail

      I wish some company buy their IP, or some company invest in their company. They did a lot a mistake but i am sure, we don’t want to get worse then the current situation.

    • Renaldi Saputra

      This is Sega JP though

      • Kenny ケニー

        I think he/she want the whole Sega to went bankrupt including the one in Japan, he/she possibly a Sega hater like the pathetic Vita haters.

    • Budgiecat

      Because Sammy

  • yumikai

    bad title is bad hope its phone game so I dont need to bother

  • DesmaX

    I doubt it’s something more than a mobile game.

    Resonance just came out a little while ago

    • yumikai

      exactly.. and the fact shining as no mobile game yet (to my knowledge) and every popular series these days has one.
      edit they port shining force to IOS but thats US ver
      and shining force chronicle in JP

    • JonathanisPrimus

      Shining was almost an annual series on PSP:
      Shining Hearts (2010)
      Shining Blade (2012)
      Shining Ark (2013)

      I can see that happening again.

  • Hidayat246

    Kidou Senshi Gundam : Shining Seed & Destiny

  • Mikail

    I am not expecting for miracle from Sega at this point. Just hoping people who can understand and speak Japanese enjoy most games from SEGA without thinking for localization. I guess i need to learn Japanese language as well.

    • FitzpatrickPhillips

      Its hard work but it’ll pay off. You’ll be glad you did. Its great that you can get excited with announcements like these instead of praying to the gods and playing the waiting game.

      • Mikail

        actually i have learn Katakana and Hiragana quit easy, but I’ve found difficulty learning kanji. Some advice maybe? :)

        • FitzpatrickPhillips

          Kanji isn’t so much a problem, its mainly grammar that is the hardest obstacle, IMO. Download a program called Anki. It is a flash card app. When you run into a new kanji or word while studying grammar, toss it into anki and study every day. It’ll help make words stick.

          • Mikail

            thanks, i will try my best.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            Oh wow, that’s a good advice
            thx I’ll try it

          • PrinceHeir

            Any other advice for the language in general?

            We’re using Genki second edition and i’m already at the green book. Things are kinda slow right now due to the no classes, but will pick up in the coming weeks.

            I have big kanji test this Thursday, i probably should study right now.

            I do have tons of sites for the Japanese counters and its a lot of different words for different kinds of numbers.

            But it’s fun and i can easily remember them(problem is maintaining them throughout the years)

        • FTM

          Everybody has different hang-ups with Japanese. Some people can’t retain kanji, others can’t fathom the post-positional grammar, etc.
          My suggestion is to stick to a beginner’s program that doesn’t include kanji (if that’s what’s too challenging for you) and actually finish it. You will ultimately have to come back to kanji, but by then you’ll have a vastly superior Japanese vocabulary, and will be able to start working with Kanji radicals in a more efficient way (which, btw, is where you should start with kanji). But make sure that, whatever program you choose, you finish it; lots of people try to cut corners for some reason, and this is why hardly anyone manages to reach even an intermediate level with Japanese.

          Japanese is fun, but the most important thing with learning it as a gamer is accepting that it’s going to be a very, very, very long time before you can play games and understand them. And don’t buy that bull about learning the language through games; that’s absolute nonsense. Your language program, or if you’ve the opportunity/money language teacher, is the only thing you should have faith in grasping the language from.

          • Mikail

            Beside learning Katakan and Hiragana, I’ve tried using JLPT application like flash card to remember a lot of vocabulary in iphone device. Actually it’s quit fun, and i can learn anywhere, anytime, but i am just afraid i cannot remember all well, with all that many Kanji’s that i have to learn.

            So your advice i need to stick with my own program and try to remember a lot of vocabulary first and then after gain a lot of vocabulary, then i can try with kanji?

            • FTM

              Well I’m not too sure where you are with Japanese. If you don’t know your に’s and を’ｓ and の’ｓ and で’ｓ (and if you don’t know that I’m referring to particles here, then beginner), then you really don’t need to worry about learning vocabulary other than what is covered in lessons.
              You’ll be practicing hundreds of sentences for each and every Japanese particle, and if you’re using a good program each practice sentence will use different vocabulary that has been covered so far. So as you learn grammar you will also be retaining what vocabulary you’ve covered. It’s a natural progression for Beginners, and it’s a very rewarding, hasty progression too for quite a long while.

              Beginner’s are really ambitious with Japanese, and this is great. But many people get reckless and start trying to chop their lessons up into segments of Vocabulary, Grammar, Kanji, and even accent training.
              This is a bad thing to do. As a beginner, your goal should be to proceed from one lesson to the next only after you’ve truly practiced and memorized as best you can what has been covered so far. Don’t worry about anything else; you must first acquire the blueprint of the language, the grammar, and enough vocabulary so that you yourself can start creating sentences on your own. Only after you’re certain of everything Beginner’s Japanese covers are you ready to move on to the more challenging, and less rewarding, intermediate areas. Starting to learn kanji here, in Intermediate, is absolutely fine, and don’t let anybody tell you different.

            • kurosan9712

              Here’s my advice as a self-learner who achieved knowledge of japanese enough to read the most difficult of game texts(like Falcom’s Kiseki games or some VNs I know with a lot of specific terminology or scientific terms) – first thing you need is not kanji. First – learn words. First thing is vocabulary, I’ve lived with it a year or two before I felt the need to learn kanji.

              I know quite a bit of people who tried to learn japanese, but gave up because after learning grammar and basic things they didn’t understand anything still, because they don’t understand the text or even spoken lines in text.

              I’ve learnt my japanese through games mostly, so that’s how it works. Playing games, encountering things I’m too weak for at the moment, getting better and better each time is what kept me going. Textbooks weren’t for me initially, I can’t keep up with the boring “lessons”.

              • Renaldi Saputra

                Do you firstly play games with furigana? Or randomly?

                • kurosan9712

                  I did it randomly, because I didn’t know what’s furigana. When I began my way, I didn’t even have much reference material around me, I could only gain knowledge through experience.

                  I didn’t know what is furigana, and which games had it. I had no one to ask for help or advice, but I had a strong, burning passion to learn the language.
                  Thus, step by step, I came to my current position. I’d say it wasn’t a bad way, it was fun. I played what I wanted, without minding how problematic that was.

                  • Renaldi Saputra

                    I see then

                    • kurosan9712

                      I’d bet it’d be easier if you do ones with furigana, or with text mostly/fully in hiragana first.
                      But those are not easy to come by. Ones I know are mostly Level-5 games(that’s Ni no Kuni PS3, Time Travelers, Layton games), and Pokemon(those are fully in hiragana, but in Black/White 2 one could switch to mixed text with katakana/hiragana/kanji).

                      But, I could do it all ONLY because I started with vocabulary, which built a bit before I actually started trying, and was growing rapidly after I started my way of “learning”. I really did a lot with knowledge of just words.
                      But when I came across words that sound exactly the same, but are written differently(like 真 and 新, symbols and meanings are different, but the reading is the same), I understood that point has to be overcome, and I slowly started memorizing kanji I see. At this point, I’m close to actual highschool level(doubt I’m over 1945 kanji yet).

                    • Renaldi Saputra

                      Yeah I can understand the challenge, I myself often being confused of some kanji that are literally someone’s name or just vocabularies

                    • kurosan9712

                      Names are tricky, so even japanese themselves have troubles. That is one of the reasons you have to provide furigana of the name when registering on some japanese sites, especially if it’s a dating site or a social network.

                      At times, names are read literally like a combination of first/last parts of their readings, but at times they are read in a TOTALLY different way(one of the most bright examples are the names in Umineko no Naku Koro ni. Written in kanji, but most read totally differently. Like Battler’s kanjis usually would be read as “Sento”, which he points out in the beginning).
                      That is why, I mostly can’t read names, except if they are obviously read as a combination of first/last parts of kanji reading.

          • FitzpatrickPhillips

            I agree that people who say “I learned Japanese watching anime” is BS, but you can learn via games. That said, you do need to do legit studying before you can play games in JP, but after a while you can definitely learn as you play. You just need to learn a lot before you can get to that point.

            • FTM

              You need to learn enough that you can then learn from literature, from film, from penpals, etc.

              This whole ‘learn from games’ thing needs to be more thoroughly explained. Right beneath this post people are talking about learning through furigana again, perhaps the most confused and downright pointless misconception about learning Japanese that gamers repeatedly distract themselves with.

              If you don’t know vocabulary, furigana is meaningless. And the only point that you’re going to be able to learn kanji from furigana is when you have your radicals down so you can actually look up the kanji used. And if you know your radicals, then playing videogames, which are loaded with slang and are therefore inefficient means for enhancing your Japanese, is senseless and a quick way to alienate your learning.
              If you know radicals, then the last thing you want to bother with is manga or videogames. Literature is what needs to be undertaken to enhance your learning, because you can take as much time you want with coherent passages and which are always available for reference and study.

              You can practice Japanese with videogames, but if you’re at that point then you can literally practice with anything.
              Videogames are an absolutely awful way to go about learning Japanese though.

              • FitzpatrickPhillips

                I agree that you need to learn a lot to be able to learn from it but I don’t agree that is an awful way to go about learning. Unless you’re only playing low level games that don’t use advanced grammatical structure or anything. After a certain point in my studies, I moved onto JRPGs and have been progressing and learning smoothly. I can read books, news articles, etc. just from my studies from many different types of JRPGs, to those written for younger audiences to older ones.

                That said, I’m not saying anyone can or should just jump into games to learn but after a certain point (after you’ve learned a shitton) then you can move onto it and its a pretty good source. What if someone doesn’t enjoy reading novels? Learning from that isn’t going to be enjoyable at all.

                By the way, when I say “learn from video games” I’m talking about vocabulary and grammar. Also totally agreed that furigana is almost pointless unless you’re an actual native speaker.

                • FTM

                  Ah, okay. We’re on the same page :D

                  I might have come off a bit aggressive in the last post; sorry if I did. I agree with you completely here, and if you’re at so advanced a stage where RPGs are comprehensible, or that you can at least understand them after some work, then at that stage you know the difference between proper and slang, which is really all I’m critiquing gaming for. But if you already know proper, then it doesn’t hurt to uncover more casual and social dialect a’la slang.

                  Not that novels don’t use slang— I was just thinking more of essential Japanese novelists rather than contemporary. But still; could definitely run into the same problem there also; should have been more explicit!

                  And right. Furigana works for a native, or advanced, speaker who only bothered with Hira/Kata for reading, but this doesn’t really work on an intensive level of reading as in videogames. Furigana works well for places like an airport or train-station so that someone can quickly find where they need to go, but furigana isn’t meant to be used to read some 8-12 hour adventure. At the most, it has some good use in early children’s books, with a few sentences on each page, but that’s about it in terms of reading.

        • PrinceHeir

          Same!

          I’m learning Japanese right now and i have a big Kanji Test(From 1st Year to 2nd year) and have to pass it or else i would have to retake it again.

          Learning Kanji is really hard. There’s so many meanings for just one Kanji. Though expanding your vocabulary really helps since you can dissect the meaning once you know all the other meanings, especially if the next Kanji letter can have two different meanings.

          Anime and Games are good for pronunciations. Even if they’re slang once you learned it class, you’ll see how they slang it and keep in mind the next time you use it.

          I have a long way to go and i expect at least speaking it at a normal level by 2020. Even then there’s still a lot to learn.

          I do hope to go to Tokyo Olympics 2020, but money is another issue as well :(

  • FitzpatrickPhillips

    Wow already? Resonance just came out.

    • Kenny ケニー

      Maybe it a portable project? Like one for 3ds or Vita?

      • SMTGamer

        Or mobile….. :(

        • dark-kyon

          Yeah,the name sound how mobile game.

  • Kenny ケニー

    I think TetsuyaHikari might interesting of this one lol

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

      Maybe, but if it’s mobile, I’ll probably pass on it. It wouldn’t surprise me if this one was for Vita though. I doubt they’re ready to move Shining to PS4 just yet.

  • SatsukiYumizuka

    Atleast the restructuring doesnt seem to be affecting sega’s niche games(unless this is a mobile game…) and with Dengeki and Miku getting localized theyre not completely against bringing lhings over, so hopefully DBFC does well

    • Renaldi Saputra

      sega even didn’t bring phantasy star stuffs anymore to west, shining certainly don’t get a chance

      • SatsukiYumizuka

        Well the only PS game they havent bring was psp2i which could be seen as a expanded version and not a new game even though it has a new story. PSO2 is announced, we could still get psnova…it certainly isnt out of the cards entirely i think

        • Renaldi Saputra

          You still believe Sega so much that we are getting PSO2? Pffftt

          • SatsukiYumizuka

            I expect it to come out and shut down within 2 years anyways but yes it’ll come…eventually

            • Renaldi Saputra

              It will come? After more than 3 years? Haha good luck dude on that

              • SatsukiYumizuka

                There are mmos that have been in limbo longer than that and have realeased so yeah. i play on the jp servers anyways

                • Renaldi Saputra

                  And most of MMO are korean, not japanese

                • Kenny ケニー

                  Well. Renaldi got his point, it hard to tell if the game will come or not actually, being honest for me i think the chance it coming is pretty low.

                  • Renaldi Saputra

                    Just how the heck Sega can even reply the same words they used to reply the same question 3 years ago? I can clearly see there’s no intention for them to bring it, and had been abandoned. If they will do it, I guess Sony is the right one to help, just like Yakuza 5 case

                    • Budgiecat

                      And most likely Dengeki Bunko Butt:Farting Climax as well

                    • ayanami-chan

                      Hey that game looks cool

                    • Budgiecat

                      Well the point is Sony had a hand in bringing it over just like Nintendo had a hand in making Bayo 2 a reality since Sega was like lol no

                    • Renaldi Saputra

                      I think that DBFC was supported by its sponsor, Dengeki

                    • Budgiecat

                      and since when has Dengeki cared about the West? My answer on Sony stands

                    • Renaldi Saputra

                      Just my guess anw
                      if not dengeki, then french bread, the developer. I still hesitate if it’s really sony, but oh well

                    • Budgiecat

                      someone from the West has to have a desire to meet the desire from the East thats how it works. Thats how we got all the other crossovers that people previously thought was impossible

          • yumikai

            I believe the reason PSO2 didnt make it was because of how far the fell behind when localizing it and also server costs, PSnova would cost much less to bring over I think

            • Renaldi Saputra

              Certainly no, heck they even can bring Taiwan version and even SEA version

              Sega US is pretty much focusing only on sonic miku and some non sega owned games

              • yumikai

                yeah thats true, I hope that with VC pc and after yakuza 5 and DBFC sega finally sees the light, dont give up hope for psnova or SR.
                after DBFC(which might end up like aquapizza bit I hope it doesnt)
                anything is possible but that streamlining localization message after sega San fransisco shutdown does worry me a bit.

                • Renaldi Saputra

                  Not just that, did you hear some news that sega is abandoning their projects? Focusing more on mobile and PC gaming

                  • yumikai

                    yeah IIRC thats sega of america :(

                    • Renaldi Saputra

                      That’s true

    • yumikai

      shining is not niche it has its own shining fan event in japan.
      niche is more CH, furyu… maybe gust.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        Shining is quite big in japan even though not as big as another such like Tales of series, and Shining has dedicated fanbase since 90’s
        note that shining is a 15 years old++ franchise

        • yumikai

          yeah thats why I dont consider it niche, I still wonder why sega localized DBFC maybe cuz Valkyria Chronicle? I think there is still hope for PSnova or SR but the latter needs to hurry since the ps3 is nearing its end.

          • DesmaX

            Well, SAO is decently popular here, from what I hear.

            • Renaldi Saputra

              That’s one of the reasons, the other reason maybe came from outside sega, I mean the sponsor, dengeki.

            • yumikai

              yep hollow fragment was a decent and long RPG. 60 hour or more to complete I liked it.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            I can say it’s the same as why Bamco localized J Stars Vs+

            Also, the SAO thing, one series’ popularity affects so much

        • Manny Being Manny

          Shining is actually almost 25 years old. Shining in the Darkness was the first game and came out in 1991. And of course the Shining Force games, the peak of the franchise, were in 93 and 94.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            That’s why I said 15 ++

    • Budgiecat

      what restructuring? Only SoA is getting restructured. And they did jack shit anyway.

      • SatsukiYumizuka

        Actually, all branches of sega is being restructured, including sega jp. although i believe its just some of sega jp’s arcade employees

        • Budgiecat

          which is moot because arcade =/= home console division

  • Renaldi Saputra

    Ps4? Maybe Vita first

    • kurosan9712

      PS3/PS4 if not mobile. Why? because PS4 can’t get anyone(from devs) to believe in it completely(i.e. make exclusives), at least in Japan.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        I doubt for PS4 bcos even Phantasy Star haven’t touched PS4 first. Or maybe mobile, yea you got a point

        • kurosan9712

          The name kinda says it’s not a big project. Dunno why I feel it isn’t but the name is what makes me think so the most.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            I can guess so, as Shining also had arcade machines in Japan and many minor stuffs

        • Solomon_Kano

          But when was the last console Phantasy Star game anyway? Meanwhile, the most recent Shining game was on PS3. Not that I expect this to be on PS4, with such a short time since the last game’s completion, but that reasoning is a bit off.

          • JonathanisPrimus

            Phantasy Star Universe was on 360, so not too long ago. Prior to Shining Resonance, that series was dead on home consoles, too. Shining was on PS2 and then DS and PSP. The PSP entries are actually the best selling recent releases, so it’s surprising Resonance wasn’t PS3/PSV. This next game could change that.

      • ayanami-chan

        Then what’s Disgaea 5 then?

        • Bobby Jennings

          A low budget JRPG.

          That’s not to say that its bad or anything, just saying. It’s hard to get Japanese devs to spend this money.

          • Budgiecat

            then let them settle for crumbs in Japan than the whole cake of the world. fags.

  • Elle

    It’s….probably a mobile game.

  • MrKappa

    Meanwhile in the west Sega trademarks another Sonic game.

    • Budgiecat

      Alien: Colonel Sonic Miku Isolation: Project Diva 3rd (with Knuckles)

  • Zackasaur

    Oh, look! Another game to refuse localisation. >:|

    That said, with a trademark this fast, it might be some sort of mobile spin-off.

  • ManagedCorn

    I wonder how may things can shine.

  • LordKaiser

    Well you could have learned about it 2 weeks ago if I had my PC non infected. Seek my message on youtube that I left to TetsuyaHikari’s channel. I’m using my phone atm.

  • Budgiecat

    Shining Localization

    • http://resettears.wordpress.com/ Reset Tears

      Same release day as Sakura Wars: English Collection, oddly enough

      • Elle

        I hate every last one of you all that outright ignored that last sakura wars game we got. It was fantastic.

        • http://resettears.wordpress.com/ Reset Tears

          I bought it! And then bought the first two games for my Japanese Sega Saturn. >_>
          I feel like a ton of people who visit Gematsu and such websites would LOVE Sakura Wars to bits*; it’s just nobody knows about it.

          (*It’s a strategy RPG! It’s a visual novel! Comedy! Adventure! Romance! Steampunk mecha-bots!)

  • RinShirika

    Mobile game

    • Noctis Pendragon

      Mobile gaming is the futur, a futur whitout me lol.

      • RinShirika

        il play it for you

        • Noctis Pendragon

          Thx.

  • ayanami-chan

    Great another game we won’t ever see. Fuck you Sega.

  • Woot Woot

    They have not localized any of the shining games have they?

    • Hikari Langley

      A few, but that’s it. SEGA stopped really localizing any Japanese game’s that seem to be text heavy. Took sony’s support to get Yakuza 5 over here.

    • Solomon_Kano

      Not in a good long while.

    • Manny Being Manny

      They used to localize the series back in the Genesis and Saturn days, with games like Shining Force, Shining in the Darkness, Shining Wisdom, Shining the Holy Ark, etc. Shining Soul for GBA too. But they’ve pretty much half assed it ever since.

      • the7k

        Shining Wisdom was localized by Working Designs in America. Heck, Sega Japan wouldn’t even allow them to correctly translate the game because they refused to release the copyright on the characters’ names.

  • King Shesh

    Can we get Resonance plz?
    Or how bout VC3 then plz?
    Better yet, give us FRIGGIN SHENMUE 3 FOR GOD SAKES!!!!…plz?

    • kurosan9712

      Sorry, west, you can’t. But you can have Sanic and Meeku.

  • DietSoap

    Vita pls (◕‿◕✿)

  • Otamiku

    Awesome! I’ll add this to the list of games Sega will never localize.

  • dark-kyon

    Can we be more realistic,sega is improving,years ago sega was sonic,sonic and more sonic.now they are bringing others games,obviusly games light in text,but can you blame to sega.now the jrpg western market is somehow saturated,bandai namco is suffering because that,sales of xillia 2 was not good,if zestiria don’t get a ps4 port with improved graphics for the high standard of the western gamer the latest tales will be a bomb in the west.so i am with sega now,if dengeki bunko,yakuza 5 and diva f2 make money for them without the need of selling at discount price,maybe they try something more text heavy next.

    • kurosan9712

      Don’t worry, if they bring Shining Resonance without a PS4 port all of a sudden – nothing good awaits them, as it isn’t the best in terms of graphics(I’d say it’s pretty average outside of pre-rendered cutscenes).
      So they won’t, and they will be right not to.

      • Budgiecat

        Shining Tears came out in 2005 you weeb pleb. Was not the last Shining game localized

        Shining Force EXA was localized to U.S. in 2007 and even X-Play gave that a 4/5

        • kurosan9712

          Tears was the waystone of where the series went, and it wasn’t received well.

          • Budgiecat

            Makes no sense what you said since Tears looks and plays nothing like Shining Hearts which plays nothing like Shining Blade & Arc, of which both play nothing like Shining Resonance.

            • kurosan9712

              It set it in terms of style(all the games from Tears till Blade used the same graphic style, artstyle, music style, etc).
              Blade and further just put it all in 3D, but the origin was Tears.
              What lived till Force EXA, thankfully, died with it. I didn’t like it, but I sure liked what was in Tears.

              • Budgiecat

                Gameplay, of which you didnt bother to mention, is the most important STYLE and all the gameplay is completely different from one another aside from Blade & Arc, which uses a gameplay style similar to Valkyrie Chronicles. Hearts used a standard turn base. Resonance uses party based action with character switching and transformations.
                Graphic style is also completely different; Tears uses 2D sprites and backgrounds. Every Shining game after it used 3D polygons.

                EXA came 2 YEARS AFTER Tears so you are still not making any sense (as usual)

                • kurosan9712

                  Ark is very different from shitty system of Valkyria and Blade. Unlike Blade and Valkyria, it is a proper turn based system.

                  And even if my claims don’t make sense to you – not like I care, as they make sense to people who matter to me.

                  • Budgiecat

                    “shitty system of VC”

                    lol okay either I’m talking to the wrong end of your body or you have 2 assholes lol

    • Budgiecat

      Wait a second

      Bamco cannot afford to make Zestiria a PS4 game but Compile Heart can make 3 PS4 JRPGs?

      Sega of America just let go 300 employees and last year, Sega of JP’s game sales dropped 60%

      Sammy is really the only part of the company holding them up since they’ve always made bank in the casino market

    • Renaldi Saputra

      But did you heard the news that Sega is abandoning their projects?

      • PuppetMaster

        You mean they will focused more on mobile games?

        • Renaldi Saputra

          Yeah, by abandoning their projects

          • PuppetMaster

            This is the 1st time i hear about they will abandoned their projects and i hope not. I still want more Yakuza, Virtua Fighters, Valkyria Chronicles, etc from them…

            • Renaldi Saputra

              I think only Sega US, not JP

  • NessWonderSprite

    Could be an anime too. Either way nothing the west will enjoy

    • dark-kyon

      Wrong,you can enjoy the new girls what tony taka going to design for this game and buy the new bishoujo figure of the heroine principal.

      • Ris Ris

        He could be right in a way. While there exists a group of otakus in the west, they are still among the minorities. In the least, among my american friends, online and irl friends alike, who also enjoys gaming, I know none of them who enjoys these kinds of games and mostly prefer games that has western vibe to it unless it’s final fantasy. Personally I’m tired of people hating some developers for making games with animesque art and all those waifu hate. So I can understand why SEGA choose not to bring most of their stuffs to the west, and I’m okay with it really.

      • NessWonderSprite

        Oh wow, you cannot do anything but buy figures………

  • http://roccosanimejournal.wordpress.com/ RazeCalamity

    Well there goes any chances of it coming to the west. Import is an option. But Sega do suck sometimes. Would have liked to see a Shining series out in the west. But them was the days. Can’t blame them though, with slow decline of JRPG in the west and only appealing to a small niche market. It would be a huge loss for them. A shame really, Sega once had some good JRPG in their library. Phantasy star, Shining series, Lunar, Vermillion, Exile etc.

    • Dave Mckee

      I have to disagree with your point the decline of JRPG’s in the west. Bravely Default which does FF better then FF was a huge hit. The tales series of games have never been more popular then they are now to name a few

      • Zuhri69

        Yeah, i get what you mean. But shining seemed to cater morw to the anime crowd rather than the classic jrpg nut/supremist like me lol. At any rate, there’s always a jrpg crowd in the west but against the normal gaming crowd, we are in the minority.

        It sucks but unless it spells out final fantasy, it won’t really reach an incredible number of sales.

        I really wish the ps4 would made a jrpg comeback…

        • Dave Mckee

          I blame part of it on Gamers here in the west who insist a game has to have English music and voice. The simple fact is the largest prohibitor cost wise in localizing japanese games is the cost of Voice actors, musicians and the recording studio time.
          I myself have no issue with any game not having english music or voices so long as the menus and subtitles can be in english. But I know a lot of gamers for instance refused to buy Freedom wars even though they loved the game when they watched me. it had no english voice overs so they said no way, which to me is insane.

          • Zuhri69

            Either that or the ‘english-dub-no-buy’ crowd. We are making poor impressions ourselves. Which is sad. I guess jrpgs are really becoming a niche and of we’re getting anything, then we’re lucky.

            I should’ve learned japanese all those years before…

            • Elle

              You still can learn japanese.

              • Zuhri69

                If i had the time. I’m an auditor so i worked like 17 hours on a bad day and weekends are a no-go. Lol

          • yo1234

            If youre going to blame them, you might as well blame the people on the opposite side as well. “No japanese audio no buy”. Sure it costs more to dub in english. But not buying a gamr because it only has english audio is equally stupid. I listen to both then decide which i like. I dont get people who dont give anything a try. The excuse that englishvoice acting was bad 10+ years ago is no longer relative

            • Dave Mckee

              Agreed though that is so rare an occurrence really to be almost a mute point really. I can only once ever remember becoming annoyed at a game that did not include the japanese audio. I was not pissed off because it did not include it, but because they made it DLC.
              That to me was totally un-acceptable to make a person pay for something that by default was in the game from the start.

        • Renaldi Saputra

          I think no, not many people know Shining series from first in the west, not bcos it’s more into anime crowds blablabla

          Also it lost its popularity against Bamco’s tales of series

          • Zuhri69

            Yeah, but the character design in the current shining game seemed very animesque and chances are, it may not seemed attractive enough to the common crowd.

            Tales is a great example of the fanbase being vocal enough that a company decided to give it a shot. I remembered before tales of graces f were brought over, fans went mad with letters, emails and polls and its really nice to see that it has all been paid out.

            But even then, jrpg is in the minority now…

            • Dave Mckee

              Yup and look at Operation Kosmos that took off like mad. I still want to see a Boxed set of Valkyria Chronicles. At Least to their credit they did make a PC version finally, so hopefully that will expand the interest in games from Japan in general.

              • Zuhri69

                Yeah. It’s a sad age for jrpg fans. Oh well, at least ffxv, xcv, zestiria and p5 are on the way.

      • Renaldi Saputra

        Maybe he meant that Sega saw that the potential isn’t good. As people always being whinny about… say… dubbing voice, etc

        So I guess Sega was fed up

        • Dave Mckee

          Well Sega did admit last week I think it was, they are getting out of console gaming for the most part. They are going to focus on the PC market and mobile gaming, and by mobile they mean tablets and phones. Which truly is sad because Sega has such a Rich and Storied history as a gaming company.

          • Renaldi Saputra

            Sega is a big company, but it seems they aren’t brave enough to take a risk, or maybe on their thoughts it’s just “sucks to be you west” bcos of them being fed up

    • ManagedCorn

      Anyone would jump at your post and say “they just need to market it!” completely ignoring that that’s the most expensive thing of all the localization.

  • https://www.behance.net/cobaltcomet KOKAYI5

    Well at least wild arms dev media vision is getting work.

  • desponent

    shining waifu growing mobile game hell yeah

  • PrashT

    well, doesn’t matter….

    • Sinon

      It doesn’t take ages to learn moon.

      • kurosan9712

        This guy is right, it only takes a few years, in reality.

      • Limbless

        But think of poor XSeed, what if everyone in this comment section learned the runes? They’d go out of business!

    • Renaldi Saputra

      This made my day

    • DanielGearSolid

      can i steal this?

    • Noctis Pendragon

      Omg Awsome.

  • yo1234

    Wait, is sega going to focus on pc and mobile games, or is sega of america? Well, it doesnt matter i guess. More motivation to finish my japanese language studies. But kanji is so hard to learn without instruction…

    • Renaldi Saputra

      Just sega america, sammy

  • Hellt

    ENOUGH WITH THE TONY TAKA SHINING SEGA!!!

    VALKYRIA 4

  • Cael

    Marion <3

  • DrForbidden

    Shining Seed sounds like a porn game…