Robin, Lucina, and Captain Falcon playable in New Super Smash Bros.
posted on 07.14.14 at 10:39 AM EDT by (@salromano)
Fire Emblem: Awakening duo join the fray.

Super Smash Bros.

Nintendo has announced Robin and Lucina from Fire Emblem: Awakening, as well as F-Zero‘s Captain Falcon, as playable characters in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and for Nintendo 3DS.

Robin will be playable in both male and female forms. His Final Smash attack recruits help from Fire Emblem: Awakening protagonist Chrom.

Watch the reveal video below. View a new set of Wii U screenshots here and a set of 3DS screenshots here.

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  • Gyro Zeppeli

    So uh, I wonder what that contact of yours will have to say now.

  • http://gematsu.com/ Sal Romano

    As I’m sure most of ya know, the leaker e-mailed me last night teasing Shulk.

    He also e-mailed me again this morning saying Nintendo keeps a lot secret from Bandai Namco, and that Sakurai may change his mind as he does all the time, but that Shulk was 100%.

    A quote: “I only know what has been done, not what or when they will be made available. Sakurai may change his mind, and he does all the time. Shulk will not be changed.”

    I’ve e-mailed him about the lack of Shulk, as well as the whole Chrom being a Final Smash thing. I’ll update if I get a response.

    Still finding it hard to believe. 8 for 11 is no easy task. I wonder what he has to say.

    • You Dumbasses Believed It All

      That’s not how this type of thing works. You don’t just “change your mind” at the last minute and decide to show a completely different trailer and update the site with completely different pages. This guy is clearly full of shit.

      • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

        Full of shit when he has 8 already correct predictions that he’s been doing since the game was announced?

        No, I don’t think so.

        • You Dumbasses Believed It All

          LOL EIGHT CORRECT PREDICTIONS. I don’t care if he got eight hundred correct predictions. The fact that he got this incorrect means he clearly doesn’t know everything about what’s going on. Funnly how he just “happened” to forget to mention Lucina and Robin, isn’t it? Or did Sakurai change his mind and create two new characters within a 12-hour period?

          • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

            Wrong. Nobody is saying that they were created 12 hours ago. Saying stupid stuff and stuffing the words in my mouth doesn’t make you right at all.

            Why would the Xenoblade guy retweet a post about Lucina and Robin? Obviously the planned reveal was supposed to be for Shulk.

            I run a website, how hard do you think it is to upload some images and add an image to the front page?

            How hard do you think it is to take a video that you already have pre-made, and release it?

            Idk why this sounds like days of work to you, when Sakurai could have changed his mind 2 hours ago about who they were going to reveal, and the team would have had more than enough time to set up the images on the site and get the trailer out.

            • GetOffMy_Lawn

              Adding onto this comment…
              When Nintendo announced they would be revealing a new smash character today, the announcement was for a singular character, not three. Which would suggest they changed the plans somewhere along the way.

            • http://gematsu.com/ Sal Romano

              Someone on GAF posted a theory that Sakurai told Monolith Soft the reveal would be Shulk, so that they retweeted everything and had everyone expecting Shulk.

              If you remember, the only time Monolith retweets Nintendo’s stuff is when it pertains to their games. Like the Ninty Direct retweets where Xenoblade X was involved.

      • MrFinalgamer

        That Tekken guy (forgot his name) did that at Evo this year…

        • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

          ^^^^^^^^^^^^

        • You Dumbasses Believed It All

          I have no knowledge of this. Can you direct me to more info on this? I’m curious. I doubt these situations are totally comparable, though.

          • Forty

            Katsuhiro Harada appeared on stage yesterday at Evo 2014, and stated that Tekken 7 was leaked, but it was not the game he had planned to announce there. But due to Tekken 7 leaking, he put a trailer for it together for Evo on the day and showed that instead.

            http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/14/tekken-7-announce-evo-2014/

            I doubt this scenario would have happened for Smash, mind you.

            • You Dumbasses Believed It All

              Just checked it out. First of all, props to Harada for the effort he put into making the most of the situation.

              Anyway, that was a quick trailer made at the last minute that didn’t show gameplay, only pre-rendered cinematics obviously meant for a reveal scheduled to come relatively soon, anyway. Today’s Smash Bros. had specific voice acting and was obviously not made in the same situation.

              • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

                Except for the fact that all of the trailers are already finished.

              • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

                “We’re nearing the bottom of the stash of new challenger videos that we’ve made”

                “challenger videos that we’ve made”

                “made”

                Shut up.

                • You Dumbasses Believed It All

                  Ouch, that’s no way to carry a debate. But I’ll let that one slide.
                  Regardless, it still doesn’t explain why the supposed leaker completely fucked up with today’s reveal, or why Chrom is clearly seen in Lucina’s Final Smash.

                  • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

                    Robin’s final smash*

                    • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

                      And you still can’t explain how he got 8 predictions right.

                    • You Dumbasses Believed It All

                      I’ve explained it twice now. I’m not typing this shit again.

                    • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

                      No you haven’t explained anything. Your “explanation” is just you saying that he had 8 lucky guesses, and that the choices were obvious.

                    • RinneLogiSSJ4

                      that’s cause quite frankly they were, palutena, and chrom were both highly requested and were on everyones character predictions, pac man and mega man were expected 3rd party characters, villager was expected cause animal crossing already had some involvement in ssb, everyones been wanting to play as them selves for a long time, and he practically didn’t even know greninja was gonna be added and just said pokemon from xy since the current gen added was likely, the only one most people wouldn’t have guessed was wii fit trainer

                    • Aidan Gamble

                      He predicted Wii Fit Trainer. Nice job glossing over that one.

                      Also, Villager had been explicitly deconfirmed by Sakurai in 2009. Not a safe guess either.

                  • DAF

                    Actually it’s in Robin’s Final Smash. Just pointing out. Also I don’t think they showed Lucina’s during the trailer.

    • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

      Most likely with everyone knowing that it was Shulk days before, Sakurai wanted to surprise everyone.

      Their character trailers are all already finished, they just pick which ones get released

      • You Dumbasses Believed It All

        You seem to be falling into a suspension of disbelief. At this point you’re trying to fool yourself into believing this bullshit source is still accurate despite this massive evidence suggesting otherwise.

        Honestly, the more you look at these “predictions,” the more you realize it’s not as impressive as one might think. Just about every character mentioned by this guy is a pretty safe bet. All are very well-known and requested characters. Plus, specific reveal dates have never been mentioned until now, and when he finally tries to get it right, he fucks up.

        • http://www.shonengamez.com Fabian Ortiz

          You seem to be forgetting that the tweet that said there would be a new character announcement, not new “characters”.

        • Fernando Garcia

          What we see here is 100% hindsight bias. You’ve failed to adequately explain the newcomers he got RIGHT.

          • You Dumbasses Believed It All

            I just explained that. They have all been easy guesses that my friends and I honestly expected as much as many other people. Let’s also not forget that the supposed Mega Man, Villager, and WFT predictions were never actually mentioned to the public until AFTER they were revealed.

            More importantly, though, is the fact that this would be a serious breach of NDA (non-disclosure agreement). If this guy is truly leaking information from the game he is working on, then he is in for some serious legal trouble.

            • Fernando Garcia

              Didn’t you read the post of Sal’s E3 predictions from last year that Villager, Mega Man, and Wii Fit Trainer? That was done before E3, with no editing before it. Sal posted them to see if the leak given to him has any merit, and when it did, he made his announcement.

              And indeed, the tipster is in breach of NDA, which is why I requested Sal to expose him if he does not explain today’s situation.

              However, things remain unexplained. Why did people behind Xenoblade retweet this?

              • You Dumbasses Believed It All

                Yes, I did read it. He says he received an email prior to the reveal, but he never actually mentions the email until after the reveal, claiming to be “suspicious” of the source.

                I have no information regarding retweets so I have no response to that. My initial assumption would be that, due to their affiliation with Nintendo, they would be retweeting significant Nintendo-related events, but I would have to look more into it.

        • OverlordZetta

          What massive evidence otherwise?

          Up until now, every single reveal has been right on the money.

          If they were going with requested characters, it would be stuff like Ridley.

    • Sarif

      People will still act like children even if you got 20 characters right and missed someone.

      You will never please them. Especially the smash community.

    • Eder García

      possibly Sakurai changed plans after finding out about that leak Sal.
      “I’ve e-mailed him about the lack of Shulk, as well as the whole Chrom being a Final Smash thing. I’ll update if I get a response”

      i am interested in what this leaker has to say

    • Travis

      8/11 isn’t that impressive considering how obvious most of the additions were. It doesn’t take inside information to guess that Pac-Man is going to be in a game that Namco is involved in or that Nintendo would do the same thing with Miis for this game that they’ve been doing with every other game.

      Out of eleven guesses, he’s only been right on two or three of the long shots.

      • Fernando Garcia

        Not really. We call them obvious as a result of hindsight. However, every newcomer had its critics who stated they wouldn’t be in.

      • http://gematsu.com/ Sal Romano

        That’s easy to say when you look at them one by one, but to ‘guess’ all of those characters and get none wrong, up until this whole Chrom situation, isn’t an easy task.

        • Travis

          Anybody can be right until they are wrong. And I’m not even saying that the leak is a fake. In fact, I’d say it’s probably from somebody with privileged information, but less than he wants you to think.

          I’m just saying that scoring his predictions as though predicting Wii-Fit Trainer is equal to predicting “XY Pokemon” makes for a flawed argument. He might have been right on both, but the latter doesn’t do much but reinforce the former.

    • dez-e-ray112

      I hope you get a response from your tipper soon.

    • Fernando Garcia

      When are you going to expose him, bro?

  • Guest

    He owes us a full explanation, now.

  • Forty

    Very much looking forward to playing as Lucina. Awesome

  • Quetzalcoatl9999

    So apparently Lucina is just another Marth clone. it’s a shame, Glad that Legendary Captain Falcon is back, though.

  • sakanaとkoeda

    Wait the default name was Robin? No way.

  • Six

    First Palutena and now Lucina. #icant

    You win Nintendo. I’ll buy Smash Bros.

    • Anime10121

      Took you this long? XD

      • Six

        ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        I should probably get around to playing FE Awakening…

        • Anime10121

          <__>
          I’m actually right there with you on that…

  • Tetris

    Can’t say my hope for Shulk isn’t rapidly blowing away after that video.

    • Gyro Zeppeli

      Shulk’s still got a chance, I’m hoping for him as well as a non-Chorus Men rep for Rhythm Heaven.

  • Fernando Garcia

    Sal, if it be possible, if your tipster doesn’t give any explanation about today’s reveal, I’d like you to expose him.

    • Do it

      Do it or we riot!

  • http://www.gameanyone.com/DukeVerde DukeVerde

    Well, of course Falcon doesn’t talk…

  • Anime10121

    Holy hell O.O

    Can Smash get any more epic?!

  • orzorzorz

    wow, i wanted Lucina for awhile but i didn’t expect Robin would be thrown in there too. consider me hyped

  • JuniorFear 485478469871

    Just like that Robin proved the leak fake.
    Just awkward trying to back it up now.

  • OverlordZetta

    Well expect both of those new Fire Emblem characters (at least the player character one) to be gone in the next Smash.

    Really not a fan of Nintendo’s “let’s add this thing in one game of an ongoing series and then leave it there” mindset that all of their series seem to use. Mario Kart, Pokemon, Smash, Kirby, it’s everywhere.

  • OlimacFTW

    I’m glad about Lucina and the option to choose a female Robin.

  • RinneLogiSSJ4

    so looks like that one guy was wrong about chrom, but atleast captain falcons back

  • Forte

    The sad part is, even after this, people are still going to believe your baseless lies and guesses because you were 8/11 right.

    The joke is, so was basically everyone else.

    • Fernando Garcia

      Sal isn’t the leaker, he’s the messenger. He’s trying to get an explanation for what happened today, and hopefully we’ll get the info.

      Until then, you have no right to accuse him as a liar.

      • Forte

        Sal -is- the leaker. He made some guesses on NeoGaf before E3 last year, got Wii Fit Trainer right of all things, and then decided to come out as not just another guessing fan, but as someone with a contact at Namco.

        Do you seriously believe that a Japanese company would leak information to a western website? Any real leak information would have originated in Japanese. Everything that Sal has done has been nothing but guesses for characters who were anywhere from extremely likely to mostly plausible, except for Wii Fit Trainer, that was his golden ticket.

        Literally everything else has been clickbait so that he can make ad revenue off of idiots who will defend him to the grave. Really digging ad blocker, right now.

        • http://gematsu.com/ Sal Romano

          lol no

          Edit: On a more serious note, you clearly don’t follow Gematsu. That’s not me. If it were, Gematsu would be a different website entirely.

        • Aidan Gamble

          …You realize there were three english leakers that leaked Brawl’s roster back in 2007, right? Next time, before you make an argument, try checking to see if it hasn’t been historically contradicted multiple times in the last decade.

          • Forte

            After the roster was leaked on 2ch, you’re right!

            Wait. 2ch is a Japanese image board.

            • Aidan Gamble

              I’m talking about chaos_zer0 and PortraitOfRuin, genius.

        • Budgiecat

          who the hell are you dood…you sound like some psycho bitter ex gf…

          and stop logging out to multiple upvote yourself.
          Dont think we don’t know…

    • OverlordZetta

      >baseless
      >8/11 right
      Okay, that makes sense.

  • MrKappa

    I don’t care for FE Awakening and I think FE has way too much rep but Captain Falcon was the hypest thing in this trailer. Female Marth was about to be punched into oblivion.

    • OverlordZetta

      I wouldn’t say any series has too much so long as all of them can get the rep they have previously had.

      You also have to consider FE’s Japanese presence too – now that the West is more okay with FE, they can start using it more, even if it’s more for the Japanese fans.

  • AkumaSoul

    I’m kind of ‘meh’ for Robin, I don’t really care, but Lucina better just be an alt for Marth. In the video all her moves were exactly the same as Marth’s.

  • http://insanechronos.tumblr.com/ InsaneChronos

    I don’t think Shulk will be in Smash, because, you know, Shulk isn’t some kind of an icon.

    • http://www.gameanyone.com/DukeVerde DukeVerde

      Shulk is an icon for European Voice Actors. OR, at least, I would think he is. <_<

    • disqus_sgtob6da3X

      nor is wii fit trainer, jigglypuff, robin etc. they just have their games. like shulk.

    • Virus6

      Because Ice Climbers, Jigglypuff, Captain Falcon and ROB are all such HUUUUUGE icons. Jigglypuff had like… 5 minutes of air time in a couple episodes of the anime. Captain Falcon wasn’t even popular UNTIL Smash came out and ROB was just a random peripheral.

  • You Dumbasses Believed It All

    I’m done trying to reason with the narrow-minded people clinging so dearly to their wishful thinking that there really is a man breaking a non-disclosure agreement and giving us forbidden information, but I will post some food for thought here.

    The characters we KNOW he guessed correctly are: Pac-Man, Little Mac, Mii, Palutena, and Greninja (sort of). He supposedly predicted Mega Man, Villager, and Wii Fit Trainer, but that information did not appear until AFTER the E3 reveal, as sort of a hindsight type of thing.

    Just about everyone has been predicting Pac-Man ever since Namco was announced to be a part of development. Palutena is Sakurai’s biggest new IP apart from Pit. Little Mac was an assist trophy in Brawl, he saw a Wii remake, and is from a game where literally all you do is FIGHT. Miis were considered for Brawl and have been a staple to the Wii, Wii U, and 3DS, especially with all the new Mii-related games on the 3DS. Greninja was never actually mentioned by name. Instead, he merely said “a Pokemon from X/Y,” which is about as obvious as Mario’s inclusion. Literally every Smash game has included a Pokemon from the most recent generation of games at the time of release.

    Now, let’s begin our suspicions today with the obvious failure to accurately predict today’s reveal. The tipster said Shulk would be revealed today, yet Shulk is nowhere to be seen. Additionally, things are looking pretty ugly for Chrom with his inclusion in another character’s Final Smash, in addition to the fact that his franchise basically just received its own update and kinda threw him under the bus. (As a reminder, the tipster claimed Chrom would be playable.)

    Next we should look at Greninja. If the tipster is really some guy making guesses and passing them as leaks, it would be pretty difficult to accurately guess which X/Y Pokemon saw representation, so going with the safe bet and simply saying “a Pokemon from X/Y” makes a lot of sense. But even if he IS involved in the development, that doesn’t explain how he had no idea which Pokemon was being developed IN HIS OWN FUCKING GAME. Or maybe he’s not working on the game but is merely affiliated with a company working on the game. If this is the case, it sure is oddly convenient that one of the most difficult characters to pinpoint happened to be the one he didn’t hear about.

    Third, if he’s so confident about all of this insider information, then why did he never mention Rosalina and Luma? I still have not found a single person that seems to care that he completely missed a character, which is a pretty major mistake for a guy supposedly affiliated with the fucking game.

    Fourth, and most importantly, this entire series of leaks would be breaking an NDA, or non-disclosure agreement. Basically, by revealing information in this manner, he is putting himself at major risk for serious legal trouble. He could lose his job, he could be buried neck deep in legal fees and fines, and it could ruin his future career options.

    So before you assume so vehemently that some random asshole on the Internet is taking part in law-breaking actions just to give vague leaks of a game that is already supplying fans with arguably the most updates and information of any game currently in development, take a minute to rationalize the situation.

    • Six

      You are a special kind of stupid. So someone was potentially wrong about a video game rumor.

      Oh fucking well.

      • You Dumbasses Believed It All

        Thanks for the intelligent and insightful response. I don’t know why I bother with you people. I’m not doing this to rat him out, I’m doing it to knock some sense into you people, which clearly isn’t working because, once someone grasps an opinion, no amount of truth will sway them. I just desperately hope that at least SOME people will actually take the time to think about it. And hey, if I’m wrong, then that’s fine. I would love to be proven wrong. But it’s bullshit comments like these that make me regret visiting this terrible fucking website.

        • Six

          Then leave, and take your overblown outrage with you.

          • You Dumbasses Believed It All

            We seem to have two very different definitions of “outrage.” But I won’t start that with you. You would probably misconstrue everything I say and retort with insults (based on how you’ve been acting so far). Good day, sir or madam.

          • EX+

            Well, responding that way won’t help. Lol

      • Forte

        It isn’t that someone was wrong about a video game rumor, it’s that everyone believed it when there was no proof. A screenshot of these supposed emails with contact information blacked out, while easily faked, would have been enough to convince me that Sal isn’t the leaker he claims to be talking to. Instead, we got the convenient excuse of “names withheld to protect the leaker”.

        This entire scenario is on the level of UFO sightings, except it has more people believing in it.

        • You Dumbasses Believed It All

          Every sentence in your comment seems to have sanity-restorative properties. You are doing the world a great service.

        • Fernando Garcia

          “no proof”
          8/11 predictions correct

          We had good reasons to believe the rumor.

          • You Dumbasses Believed It All

            I’ve been providing counterargument after counterargument while every one of you insists on replying with that same pathetic response. Please acknowledge some other factors first.

            • Fernando Garcia

              Other factors? Not when they’re explained using hindsight bias.

              • You Dumbasses Believed It All

                If you’re going to refuse to properly discuss based on an erroneous reasoning, then I will do the same.

                I will not acknowledge your recycled bullshit until you stop believing everything on the Internet.

                See? I can do it, too!

          • Forte

            See, I would be alright with that, but everyone dreamed for MegaMan. Everyone knew Pac Man would be Namco’s representative, no matter what kind of hope they held out for someone less iconic.

            This isn’t “hindsight is 20/20″ talking, it’s just the facts. Wii Fit Trainer was an off the wall prediction and I’ll give that to you, I never would have called it. “Pokemon from X and Y” is too vague, though, no matter how you try to justify it. Anyone with inside information, even not knowing to call the Pokemon Greninja/Gekkouga could have said “ninja Pokemon” or “frog Pokemon”. Everyone else was on so many fan rosters, to say “out of all of these people, THIS GUY got it right, they’re all just blind guessers, but this one is the prophet of God” is asinine.

            I’ve never tried to imply you didn’t have good reason to believe this rumor; of course you did. What I have stated is that people will still believe it after it has been proven false, they will defend this as just a chance slip-up, and my own personal opinions regarding who our “leaker” actually is.

        • OverlordZetta

          No one believed it when there was no proof. It was when they continued to be correct that people believed it.

          • You Dumbasses Believed It All

            Like that Rosalina. Or today’s Shulk. Or Chrom being tossed aside for a Final Smash cameo. Yeah, he really got those ones down.

            • jameycolon

              He didn’t claim to know all the characters.

    • OverlordZetta

      The fact he missed a character doesn’t necessarily mean he’s wrong, it could just mean there are even more characters than the ones leaked.

      Pretty simple.

      • You Dumbasses Believed It All

        If he has the insider information about characters that will be in the game, then there is absolutely no reason to leak a lesser amount of characters. Let’s also not forget that he never mentioned anything about there being “more newcomers” or anything of the sort. The most logical explanation by far is that he simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

        • OverlordZetta

          There’s plenty of reason.

          He didn’t not mention them either.

          Go take your tinfoil hat elsewhere.

          • You Dumbasses Believed It All

            ROFL.

            Do you know how conspiracies work? Because this is not even close to one. I fail to see how a person who refuses to believe the claims of a potentially law-breaking anonymous Internet user is a crazy conspiracy theorist.

            • OverlordZetta

              Well, yeah, because you’re the conspiracy theorist here – logic isn’t supposed to be your forte.

              Anyway, here’s an idea.

              The leak was from Nintendo all along.

              They used it for marketing. Get people even more hyped, and then switch it up near the end to get people talking even more – like they are right now.

              The scene with Chrom in the trailer even gives credence to this.

    • Pirate Man

      You think too much bro, Capcom has done the same thing with the Street Fighter IV, it’s one of the best ways to generate hype for the game, to feed in false information and do a 180.

      • You Dumbasses Believed It All

        Sakurai has a pretty solid reputation of providing consistent, up-to-date, and accurate information. Hell, he put a lot of love into the Smash Bros. site during Brawl’s development. He’d give a write-up every day about some new update! It was crazy.

        • Pirate Man

          Well it was a good marketing move on Sakurai part. I never seen the internet buzzing since Street Fighter reveals back in the day.

    • Fernando Garcia

      Guess I’ll take your entire post on.

      at Paragraph 2: The predictions in there were entirely correct. Do not try to twist them into postulating that Villager, Mega Man, and Wii Fit Trainer were not predictions, because they clearly were. Sal said he got the information, decided to post them as predictions in a thread to see if they had any merit, and when it appeared to be so, made the announcement.

      at P3: Of course many people predicted these characters, and for good reasons, but there were also those who said they wouldn’t be in, either. Villager was considered disconfirmed by Sakurai himself, as he stated they were too “peaceful” to fight in Smash. Mega Man has been horribly treated by Capcom in the past couple of years and wasn’t considered relevant along with Pac-Man. Both were considered past their prime, and are third-party, which makes their predictions harder than you might think as Sakurai had to go through trouble to ask both Capcom and Namco for their inclusion (they could have easily said no). Before her reveal, Palutena was criticized as an unnecessary addition to Smash as it would give Kid Icarus equal representation to the higher-selling Metroid and DK series. Considering Mii, your reasoning could have justified their inclusion in Brawl, yet they weren’t anywhere in that game aside from a small cameo. They were also deeply despised as potential newcomers. Little Mac was terribly received by Japan when he was revealed, showing that what appeared obvious to us did not appear obvious to them.

      Finally, a Pokemon from X/Y was not as obvious as you think it was, as Greninja was revealed only six months after the release of his game. Before that it was expected that we would have the Pokemon characters in Brawl along with Mewtwo returning. Every now and then a “Kalos Trainer” was suggested, only to be dismissed by those who held to the Brawl+Mewtwo idea. The tipster’s vague prediction is bolstered by the fact that Sakurai himself at E3 said he had a slot reserved for an X/Y Pokemon before deciding on Greninja. Sal’s comment above suggests that the tipster works for Namco and not Nintendo, so he might not have recognized Greninja or was just told that an X/Y Pokemon would be playable in Smash and thus told Sal that.

      OverlordZetta has well-explained the situation with Rosalina. In addition, a possible scenario is the the tipster thought that the initial six characters that Sal predicted would be shown at E3, and when he was to show his second leak, there was no point in revealing a character that was already revealed. Plan changes, even at last-minute, are quite common.

      Finally, as many gamers know, leaks of upcoming video games are common, and some of those leaks happen to be true. The tipster is very well risking his job in these reveals, which is why I hope he explains the situation to Sal soon, because Sal can easily expose him as a law-breaker or a fraud. (And only one prediction was vague, the other seven were very specific).

      Finally, as I’ve mentioned to another user, there were good reasons to believe the leak until today. Here were some of the reasons:

      -8/11 newcomers were accurately predicted
      -One of those newcomers was Wii Fit Trainer. No one predicted her coming at all.
      -Sal has been known for a guy with credibility and honesty. He did post the leak as just that, a rumor.
      -The above-mentioned statements from Sakurai concerning a slot reserved for an X/Y Pokemon before giving it to Greninja.
      -The Fire Emblem Awakening stage which suggested that Chrom would be playable
      -The fact that the third leak specifically mentioned “Mii Fighter” (and concerning “Goddess Palutena”, that’s no more of a difference than calling Zelda “Princess Zelda”)
      -The Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash Run; there was not a series that had enemies in Smash Run without a corresponding playable character.
      -The fact that the announcement said “Character Reveal”, implying that only one character would be revealed, not three
      -The fact that developers from Monolith Soft retweeted said announcement, which points to Shulk being revealed, not Fire Emblem characters.

      Until today the evidence pointed out that the leak was legitimate. However, since today’s reveal shows that that’s not the case, Sal has asked for answers from the tipster, and I too want those answers. After all, Sal CAN expose him at any time.

  • Locksus

    It’s over!

    • http://gematsu.com/ Sal Romano

      So many people used to tweet at me when they were trying to tweet that guy’s fictional account. I was like a semi-celebrity.

      But no, I didn’t lie. But I take it you’re joking anyway.

      • Locksus

        I know.
        And obviously.

    • http://www.gameanyone.com/DukeVerde DukeVerde

      And Sal gets launched in to space by a Falcon Punch.

    • Samsara09

      holy fuck,you guys are superb!

  • EX+

    C’mon guys. Every other reveals were predicted right. Give Sale some slack. It’s more than I can say for most insiders who make educated guesses.
    Having said that, when you’re wrong, you’re wrong. If nothing else from the list is true then we can start questioning.

  • Six

    The amount of drama about this is damn pathetic.

    • You Dumbasses Believed It All

      Which makes me wonder why you keep adding fuel to the fire.

      • Six

        I’m sorry, I just can’t take you seriously with a user-name like that.

      • OverlordZetta

        You’re the only one doing it.

        • You Dumbasses Believed It All

          Thank you for responding to my comment. Metaphorically speaking, I should thank you for providing more fuel.

  • AkumaSoul

    I don’t blame Sal, he didn’t make the predictions.
    Also Lucina better be an Alt for Marth. She has all the same moves!

    • OverlordZetta

      I don’t think they would confirm an alt like this.

      • AkumaSoul

        If they’re really doing something like making Lucina a playable character all by herself, that’s the dumbest thing since toon link.

        • You Dumbasses Believed It All

          I personally love Toon Link, and I have a friend that would be rather irate if he saw what you had to say about him. :P But, y’know, to each their own.

          • AkumaSoul

            Sure you can like toon link, but ‘Clones’ are the bane of fighting games and smash especially. Some can argue that having slightly different moves makes them a ‘Semi-clone’ but there should not be any of them either. If they wanted a new Zelda character they could’ve pick anyone LITERALLY anyone else, considering that HrW is coming out soon.

            • You Dumbasses Believed It All

              But Toon Link isn’t a clone, not even close. At first glance he may appear to have similar moves, but the more you play, the more you see the significant differences in their playstyles and mechanics. Toon Link directly contrasts Link in his midair mobility and “floatiness.” This gives Toon Link a fantastic ability to projectile camp by being able to sustain midair momentum while firing arrows and chucking bombs. Link is far too heavy (I believe he has the second-fastest fastfall in the game behind Dedede), so moving while camping is significantly less effective with his hindered ability to stay in the air.

              Not only that, but Toon Link’s floatiness goes well with his faster aerial attacks. At low percentages he can chain nairs and bairs, something Link can only dream of doing. The truth is, Toon Link can literally run circles around Link. The only think Link has on Toon Link is a longer sword, giving him more KO options. Toon Link’s best and least punishable option is a running up smash, which is unfortunately very limiting, especially against heavy characters and fastfallers like Dedede or Snake.

              Sorry for the wall of text. I play a lot of Smash. :3

              • AkumaSoul

                I respect you ability to make notice those slight differences, but this is a ‘Ryu/Ken’ argument you’re making right now. Actually Ryu and Ken are more different than Link and Toon Link.

                • Realm25

                  Not really, no. As a Tink main, the more you play him the more you realize how vastly different he is from the original Link. They even have completely different moves.

                  • AkumaSoul

                    Again, that’s a Ryu/Ken argument. I stand by my original statement.

            • Forte

              It wasn’t coming out when they started development of Smash, and that’s the biggest deciding factor. I agree with you regarding Toon Link, and I’m going to be scratching my head for a long while if Lucina isn’t an alternate costume for Marth.

              Toon Link can be defended, at least, by citing attack function times and effects.

            • OverlordZetta

              There’s nothing really wrong with clones. Them not being there doesn’t mean they can magically be replaced by a different character.

              It means there’s just one less character.

              • Budgiecat

                Nothing wrong with clones? EA Sports UFC is ruined because of it

                • OverlordZetta

                  To that I just point you to the post you replied to, which is pretty much exactly what my response would be.

                  • Budgiecat

                    Why would you point me to the post I replied to when you were the one that made the post?

                    Clones suck. It’s not just about the character slot; it’s more about the half assed laziness of design of repeated cloned movesets which offer no variety and thus do not do the character any justice and ruins the entire experience.

                    Which is why I used EA Sports UFC as an example.
                    EVERYONE has the SAME damn 2 throws (one being an unrealistic WWE slam), same winning animation, same kicks, same stance, etc

                    So get better programmers/devs…

        • Furry Fox Jet Pilot

          I agree with you on this one, and ugh, 4 Fire Emblem characters now? Weren’t Marth and Ike enough? This just takes up character slots just like the other stupid idea of having Zelda/Sheik and Samus/Zero Suit Samus as separate characters. Well, with a rumored roster of 50, this leaves about 10 characters left to be revealed (aside from the following 4 possible appearances: Wario, Ness, Jigglypuff, and Mr. Game and Watch) G&W is possibly likely, along with Wario. Ness and Jigglypuff however, I’m not so sure, but I could care less about those two. I’m hoping two of those final 10 are Tails and Krystal though, and I’m hoping we get an Ace Combat stage from Namco!

          • OverlordZetta

            “Weren’t Marth and Ike enough?”
            I don’t understand why anyone would think this. Mario/the Mario universe has like ten characters. Why can’t any other huge and classic Nintendo franchises have more characters? FE is huge in Japan (the place that really matters here) and it’s a pretty big series. It’s strange they don’t have more characters, frankly.

            Anyway, the concept of “taking up slots” is ridiculous. Characters don’t take up slots, slots exist because of those characters. If those characters didn’t exist, we would just have less characters.

            On that note, G&W was basically all but confirmed with Pac Man.

    • MrKappa

      She is most definitely a clone and probably the most 1 to 1 clone Smash has seen yet but she doesn’t seem be a Marth alt at all.

  • Brett Morris

    Sal, you just report hings but everybody shoots the messenger. I’m super stoked for this game, so much I may need to get a japanese 3ds just to play sooner!

  • Locksus

    I don’t know, leaks are 99% of the time done on purpose. It’s an efficient marketing strategy to make people hyped up for a game. Sometimes they deliver correct, and sometimes false information.
    All kinds of publicity is good, or so they say.

  • BizarreJelly

    :P

    • Guest

      Yes, because he was the one who leaked the info, not just reported it…OH WAIT.

      • BizarreJelly

        Hurr

      • http://gematsu.com/ Sal Romano

        It’s cool. I’m pretty sure Jelly’s just messing around.

        Plus, I laughed.

        • Samsara09

          well,few people i know are as mature as you.Taking so many jokes in stride like this.Quite impressive.

    • Samsara09

      hahahahahahaha,this is brilliant,pal,brilliant!Oh,my sides hurt.

    • TheBlackRabbit

      lol nicely done.

  • ConkerBFD

    I don’t care if he’s right or wrong about these leaks, as long as it puts me at the edge of my seat every new pic of the day. As for the whole Chrom thing, the leaker who e-mailed Sal may not have seen the fact that he was a final smash, and naturally assumed he was a character. I still think it’s all true, no matter what all these people say…

  • fireemblembeast

    When I saw the trailer, I just assumed Chrom was playable… ;_;
    I hope I’m right in the end

    • EX+

      I have a feeling that if Chrom was playable, they wouldn’t make him a final smash.

      • fireemblembeast

        It just makes no sense to me to have two major characters from a FE game playable and then have the lord of said game make only a brief cameo appearance

        • Thatguy

          Lucina is technically lord, too. And she has more fans, than Chrom (well, duh, she is best waifu material :D).
          And making both Lucina AND Chrom would be overkill: 4 swordwielders from Fire Emblem.

          People already hate FE for 3 sword users after reveal. And calling FE characters *trash* and *wasted spot* (and that makes me sad. very sad)

          • TalesOfBS

            I wanted Micaiah to be Robins alt. His alt is just a simple reskin. They lost a chance here.

            • fireemblembeast

              Finally another Micaiah fan! FE community seems to hate her ^_^;
              And since people think we have “enough sword users” from FE, it wouldn’t hurt to have Sothe. Well, maybe in my dreams… They wouldn’t put in new characters from older FE games.

            • Thatguy

              I don’t think i understand you… Isn’t alt is a simple reskin for every character in Super Smash? Like Male Wii Fit, Villagers etc?

        • EX+

          Of course. I agree and fully understand what you’re saying.

        • MagcargoMan

          Because Chrom is easily the least unique of the three. Sakurai made the right decision here.

          • Ethan

            more like lusina she is a clone marth

            • MagcargoMan

              And I hate that. I wish she was Marth’s alt costume instead.

    • Tranzilla345

      Nope he’s just a final smash I guess maybe Sakurai just couldn’t come up with a new moveset for him

  • https://twitter.com/Stealth___ Stealth

    I am very very happy with these.

    I think Shulk is real, just not today

    • Virus6

      I believe the same about Shulk, especially with Monolith’s lead writer for Xenoblade retweeting the Smash announcement. I fully believe that Sakurai saw that a lot of people were expecting Shulk and then changed which character he wanted to reveal within the last couple days. It would also explain why the closing two scenes of the reveal had just generic text overlay and no music. It was added pretty quickly to fill up the 3 minute window.

  • Kirblastriodnite

    Bandanna dee hopefully

  • Budgiecat

    Where’s Captain Rainbow

  • James McPherson

    We need answers!! >:D

  • Samsara09

    something tells me Chrom isn’t playable,lol.Oh well,ample compensation,though.Robin and Lucina,eh…

  • Samsara09

    Oh…so,some people are doing the “I want my caracter playable” war?Bitch,please.Whatever it will be,will be.The game can’t have too many playable caracters,lest it repeats melee’s mistake(many caracters in melee were clones),but it already has quite the formidable roster.

    • OverlordZetta

      Or they could just, you know, not make clone characters.

      • Samsara09

        you can’t everything pal.To make individual caracter requires quite a lot of investment,creativity…

  • Zackasaur

    FUCK YES. FE Awakening is probably my favourite Nintendo game… Well, ever. Only competing with The Thousand-Year Door.

    Now I am officially hyped.

    *dances around*

    I’ll be maining Lucina.

    • Zackasaur

      Okay, one more time.

      FUCK YESSSSSSS.

    • Locksus

      Go play the older FE games. Well, everything except Shadow Dragon.

      • Zackasaur

        I like Awakening best in the entire franchise. c:

  • Jin Kisaragi

    I wanted Marth but Lucina is okay. I thought Shulk was going to be announced.

    • OverlordZetta

      We… already have Marth…?

      • Jin Kisaragi

        I know Lucina and Marth are basically the same. If I had to choose between the two I would choose Marth.

      • Jin Kisaragi

        I meant Chrom. I just realized it.

  • Zancrow

    Aw, I hoped for Chrom to be playable. He’s voiced by Tomokazu Sugita, I can’t help it!

    • Lelouch Vi Britannia

      Tomokazu Sugita voice actor Ragna The Bloodedge and Alvin from Tales of Xillia.

      • Zancrow

        Also, the most important of all: Gintoki Sakata!

  • PrinceHeir

    Holy Shit i read the whole thing and wow O___O

    Video Game Leaks people!!!

  • http://shinsua.tumblr.com/ Shinsua

    I just really hope this doesn’t result in a massive backlash against Gematsu as a whole…

  • MechaSwool

    Holy crap people, don’t shoot the messenger.

  • M86N

    I can’t help but feel slightly indifferent towards this reveal.

    I completely understand Sakurai wants a stronger female representation. I’m all for that and I like Lucina as a character, but not when she is given the same exact moveset as Marth and pawned off as a legit newcomer. Especially in the same trailer where they reveal Robin (or Avatar) has their female option available. They did it for WFT and Animal Crossing Villager and have displayed in past weeks how impressive some of the new skins/costumes will be…they could’ve easily made her a skin/costume for Marth. This just seems lazy.

    I think Robin however, is a great addition. Although clearly gimmicky, he/she will help add some diversity to the FE reps and Smash roster as a whole.

    I confess, I (like most) was expecting Shulk. I got very comfortable with the idea of the leak and having Chrom be our 3rd (and hopefully final) FE rep. Four is a bit much for the franchise. While it was exciting to be caught off-guard and see unexpected characters, it was underwhelming knowing an obvious clone has their own spot.

    Ultimately, the one thing the reveal made me most excited about was something I already knew – Capt. Falcon is returning. Not sure that reveal warranted the countdown. Sorry for the long post!

  • Ben Kennedy

    Well the leak wasn’t completely wrong. Chrom is still technically in the game albeit as a final smash.

  • MasterSensei

    Roy’s our boy!, Roy’s our boy!

    In case you didn’t get my subtle hint… BRING BACK ROY! xD

    • Lelouch Vi Britannia

      Thank You, someone I can agree with. I want Roy back just change up his moveset a bit.

      I want Mewtwo back as well and since he has an Evolution it’d be stupid not to bring him back. Lastly I want Shulk in.

    • Samsara09

      I loved his explosion blades.

  • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

    I was actually going to post something else here about our guidelines…

    Some of the stuff posted in here…

    Actually, nope. I’m not even going to get into it. I’ll let Sal handle this one.

    Still… I can’t help but shake my head at some of the comments. Some of the people posting here for the first time. You know who I’m talking about. Just look at some of the usernames.

    After reading lots of the comments from these people in here….

    I’ll let Reggie ask my question for me. It really says it all.

    http://i.imgur.com/JJTj9R8.gif

    • Anime10121

      I’m just viewing it as an unfortunate consequence of the site getting so big, its starting to bring in the “other” type of commenters :(

      • Pyrofrost

        But it’s situations like this that shows the need for more liberal use of the ban hammer.

        I really don’t know what’s up with the attacks on Sal here lately; and, I don’t want those people being part of my community.

        • Anime10121

          True, the banhammer would be nice, but you know its unfortunately extremely easy to circumvent that with the way Disqus handles bans :(

          I think the attacks against Sal are pathetic and completely unjustified, but this is the internet, where stupidity and ignorance knows no bounds…And once this site started getting bigger, it was inevitable that those folks would migrate over here as well. Its unfortunate, and hopefully the banhammer will help slow it, but it likely wont stop it. I’ve seen it happen far too many times…

          • Pyrofrost

            Well it’s also one of the reasons they are kinda Nazi-ish off at Siliconera. Do you have any idea how bad things would be there if the mods just let people comment liberally, however they want?

            Seriously, the biggest trolls on the internet can be found in the gaming and anime communities.

            • Samsara09

              sheesh,some of the mods there are pretty tense,and quite hostile.Hopefully gematsu finds some way of dealing with the “new users” troll issue without abusing authority.

              • Pyrofrost

                I wouldn’t call the way they handle it right or wrong. Personally, I haven’t really been on the receiving, where issues weren’t resolved cordially.

                However, problems there are dealt with pretty swiftly.

                I’d say lets just hope the trolling issue doesn’t get to the point where people will need to be dealt with in the same manner. I will say this much, if attacks on Sal keep happening, I would understand.

                • Samsara09

                  i saw some usernames that are clearly intended to troll,plus many “nonconstructive posts” having tons of guest votes.
                  honestly,this is a matter of education,lol.

                  • Tronjon

                    I’m new, hopefully I say nothing stupid or offensive or outright mean, so if I do, please tell me to stop, hope I stay here for a loooooooooooooong time =D!

        • Samsara09

          Unfortunately nowadays anyone can call themselves gamers or adults,without even the mental maturity to know how shit works.People can’t go calling others liars simply because they got a bad leak.

          • Pyrofrost

            Exactly, I’ve been following Sal long enough to know he would NEVER knowingly provide misleading information for any reason here at Gematsu.

            • Samsara09

              There have been some new users who didn’t participate in the attacks.Quite pleasant.

              Yeah.This Sal fellow is quite devoted to this site…and he loves to share information.he is probably who most got disappointed with this.Then comes the unneeded backslash.

              Well,regardless,I think this is a lesson…not to trust in leaks so much.Sir Sal has a reputation to defend,since he is a notorious “public person” user,so as to say…and not a “nobody” user or random poster.

              This sounds like politics,and it is.If people get their hopes up,and then get disappointed,they will behave like children,ESPECIALLY in the web.if you don’t want this,don’t risk your neck and reputation so much.

              Control what you post and where you do it.That’s called calculated risks.That reduces one’s chances to make mistakes in here.This is why I only post in gematsu,for exemple.

        • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

          We do ban people though. I mean, I don’t always post it for everyone to see. I do ban people, remove comments, lock threads etc.

          I don’t like to, but I do. Sure, both Sal and I are more lenient than others. I’m letting Sal handle this though. He seems to have a good handle on things, if the comments go overboard about him, I know he will handle it in a mature fashion like he has been.

          I won’t deny lots of the comments in here upset me and made me shake my head. It’s like I said above, I just stopped reading. It was getting me upset. If it was up to me I would likely lock and mass delete stuff in here.

          This stuff directly involves Sal, and it’s his website. I haven’t gotten to discuss it in depth with him, but, if what has been posted, most of which he has responded to…

          If he is okay with that, I stand by his decision.

          Regardless, it’s not really okay with me. I called it a unique situation above in my reply to anime10121, which is what this is.

          I certainly hope some of the new people coming here to read for the first time see it for what it is.

          The comments in here are not a good representation of our community here, the website, etc,

          Sure, not all of it is bad… but the point still stands. It’s why I decided to simply stop reading. As you and most everyone else who posts here regularly knows, that’s not something I typically do.

          I’m letting this go because of how unique the situation is. For now, so long as Sal is okay with it.

          • Pyrofrost

            Thank you for taking the time to respond Zero.

            I also really gotta hand it to you and Sal for how the two of you have dealt with this. The only thing that worries me about the whole situation is the possibility of these kinds of incidents becoming a regular thing. This is the second day straight I’ve watched Sal get berated here on his own sight, for no good reason.

            I mean, it’s not like Sal goes around trying to read too much into FB posts and Tweets to create articles; and it’s not like he posts a bunch of click-bait here. All he does is provide information.

            Sometimes one of us will respectfully give some constructive criticism and whatnot. However, there has never been any cause to simply put him on blast, if you know what I mean.

            I really hope these disrespectful commenters don’t end up trying to be a regular part of our community. I may have my disagreements with some people here, but I really like Gematsu and the community we have, ya know.

            Anyway, you and Sal keep up the good work, and tell Sal not to let those people get him down.

            Also, if you guys are ever looking for more staffers as the community continues to grow, let me know. I wouldn’t expect any compensation, and I’m not looking to try to gain anything. I’m here all the time anyway, so it would just be a regular part of my day. :p

      • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

        Both yes and no. Sure the Disqus system allows for easy posting on multiple website. I also think this was a unique situation though.

        • Anime10121

          Well lets hope, that whatever the issue was (a mass outbreak of waking up on the wrong side of the bed maybe), it wont become the norm here…

  • Kirblastriodnite

    shulk,chorus men, and bandanna dee hopefully

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      i bet shulk and chorus men

  • GhostCanine

    Wasn’t Chrom supposed to be a playable character according to the leak? It would be amazing if we had all of the announced characters along with both Chrom and Shulk instead of having Chrom as a Final Smash.

  • http://hatintime.com/ ShadowFang

    The in-game characters are not shaded like the reveal trailer assets… what were they made for? Is it too much to hope that Shin Megaten x Fire Emblem will look THAT good whenever it’s revealed? Jeez louise, that would be AMAZING.

  • Virus6

    Who wants to bet that this “leaker” won’t reply now that he’s been found out?

    • Art Lumidraco

      happens all the time…

  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

    If Shulk is in 100%,ill be so happy,thanks for making my day Sal

  • SuperLuigi

    Holy crap! I was hoping more for Robin instead of Chrom but any would be fine.

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      sakurai`s a troll xD

  • Lelouch Vi Britannia

    Male Robin’s voice is obviously done by none other than David Vincent. I know that voice anywhere. The voice of Jin Kisaragi, Hakumen, King Richard, and Xing Ke(Code Geass)

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      It sounded like kyle hebert,the guy who does older gohan a little,i must be going crazy

      • Lelouch Vi Britannia

        just checked it out it turns out to be that Male
        Robin is voiced by David Vincent, and Lucina is voiced by Laura Bailey.While the japanese voice for female Robin is none other than Miyuki Sawashiro aka Milla Maxwell.

        Wait a Tic “Chrom” is voiced by Matt Mercer actor of Alvin(Tales of Xillia). Now that is awesome.

        • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

          well i got one DBZ VO right lol

    • Samsara09

      Indeed!

    • MrJechgo

      Is FRobin (Female Robin… yeah, I’m looking for a way to write her name easily) voiced by Michelle Ruff again? FRobin is the avatar’s second female look, but I can’t tell if it’s Ruff, Wendee Lee (second voice) or another actress.

  • Lelouch Vi Britannia

    The character roster is now officially at 36 characters making it bigger than the roster in Brawl.

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      dont forget shulk lol

      • Lelouch Vi Britannia

        True, and I don’t know why I get the feeling that the final roster will end at 50 characters. So there’s still more characters yet to come. I know Shulk will be one of them.

        Just wait for TGS there’ll be reveals there for the new Super Smash, and as it is I don’t see Ness being removed but Lucas is likely to be axed. We’ve yet to see Ganondorf return but I know he will and with a different moveset.

        Lastly lets not count out Snake just yet. I can bet he’ll be another character to get back in. I wouldn’t doubt it.

        • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

          sakurai did say i believe it would have around 50,that explains your feeling.Ness,metaknight,falco,ganon ,ect will be revealed at launch or soon.snake has like 0% chance of returning and ganon HOPEFULLY will not be a clone,but i feel lucina is

          • Lelouch Vi Britannia

            I hope Ganon isn’t a clone and as we all know Melee was full of Character clones, but regardless though it’s still one of my favorite Gamecube titles i keep in my video game collection.

            • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

              ganon needs some speed back,he was “too slow” according to sonic

        • Brandon Jaquez

          I doubt Snake’s return. I’ve been pointing this out for months as to why I don’t think Snake will return and it’s simply the relationship between Konami and Nintendo where back then, they’ve collaborated to bring us DDR Mario Mix among other small projects.

          MGSV not being on Wii U (despite being capable) is another reason. I don’t think Nintendo, who is now trying to go for the same audience Microsoft and Sony has been appeasing, would want to promote a franchise that currently has no future despite that franchise being on 4 consoles and not theirs.

          People argue MGSIV, but lets keep it real- MGSIV was in development for a really long time. It was built with the PS3 in mind (the nightmarish cell processor). This is why the re-release last year(?) that featured trophies (aka achievements) did not make it over to the Xbox 360 despite that platform getting the MGS Collection in 2011. MGSIV was in development since the PS2 was dominating the market and I wouldn’t doubt Konami and Kojima believing Sony would be dominant for the 7th generation in which we all know how that turned out.

          Now, we have MGSV which is using the Fox Engine that according to Kojima is so flexible that they can port it to “multiple platforms”. And Wii U is not one of them because of the install base and the community manager not being happy with how Konami software do poorly on Nintendo platforms. Hopefully, later down the line and possibly as DLC, Nintendo and Konami collaborate to bring MGSV to Wii U and inevitably include Snake by that time. As crazy as this sounds, imagine Nintendo publishing MGSV on Wii U (like they did with Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge in 2012) that also included an exclusive Snake Amiibo that unlocks that character for Smash. I can totally see that driving sales and giving Konami some confidence in bringing more titles to the platform.

          • Thedude3445

            This isn’t much related to your post, but I hope you realize the PS3 ended up outselling the 360. It’s currently about 100,000 units ahead, which is small, but it’s growing ever slightly as the PS3 has been ahead in sales for many months since it got the lead. So Kojima apparently did pick the right console. (Though if we’re being real their sales are like 99% of each other’s so they basically tied)

            • Brandon Jaquez

              I’m aware that the PS3 recently reached 360 in sales but at the same in 2008 PS3 was doing miserably. If Konami could, I think they would have moved MGSIV over to 360 either as both on PS360 or just 360 but that cell processor really kept that from happening.

              A Sony rep even said that they were building the PS3 the way it was so that it made it hard for games to be ported over to other platforms because they had the strongest 3rd party support during the PS2 era.

              • Thedude3445

                When did the PS3 pick up momentum anyway? It was a joke of sorts among gaming sites for several years, even past 2008, but then suddenly it caught up.

    • Silver Citizen

      Brawl has 39 characters. Sakurai himself counts transformations as separate characters.

    • Samsara09

      and it will still get bigger…

    • Thedude3445

      38 counting Miis separately, which Nintendo seems to do in marketing.

  • Samsara09

    Gotta have patience.Sakurai and his team also have internet,and it isn’t so hard to predict what people want.So he is gonna keep the charade till it suits him…or until he is forced to come clean and say “no Shulk,sorry”.Gotta keep up the suspense.

    I know people have stooped with this,but some may still do it so…gotta do it,sorry.Whoever insults Sir is behaving like Children.Let’s put a lid on it,allright?The world doesn’t work as you want it to.Your caracter MAY not be in.Better get used.Also…the leaker might still be right,if Shulk is eventually announced.

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      he will….at the very end

  • Guest

    When do you think Shulk will be revealed guys?i need input,i believe in this leak,watch my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrFJtYl_XQ

  • DAF

    Ya know, it’s kinda because of these leaks that back in E3 2013 and April’s direct that I gave up on wanting Robin and Zoroark (though since April it’s safe to say Zoroark is deconfirmed), but I’m honestly happy to see Robin now, despite the hype I held out for Shulk. I still would like an actual Shulk confirmation, but if not, I can always use Robin! Heck, even at this point if Shulk is in, depending on how he’ll play, I’m sticking with Robin for my main newcomer. I would have said Greninja or Palutena, but I like more tactic based characters.

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      one of my friends thinks Shulk and robin will play too similarily

      • DAF

        I wouldn’t say that. I believe in terms of Special’s they’ll be heavily different.

        • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

          good :)

  • Invisbin

    Chrome for dlc plz :(

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      not likely

    • Budgiecat

      Google Chrome?

  • http://youtube.com/miyabigaming 武神水樹

    Wow, Disqus broke on 147 likes

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      Is that a new record?

  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

    the trailers were switched due to sakurai expecting ppl would know.he will be revealed.he specifically said it would be “one character”today there were 3.a little fishy?Also monolith`s tweets were oblivious to sakurai`s change of trailer or they knew and retweeted as bait to troll ppl like me who fell for it

    • MrJechgo

      Can you blame them though? I think that trailer surprised a LOT more people than Shulk would have.

      • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

        at least we`re getting shulk so idc

  • Budgiecat

    how bout Zael?

  • Budgiecat

    Bayonetta?
    Wonder Red?
    Captain Rainbow?
    Freya / Froy?

  • http://www.psvitadirect.com/ Kurisu Makise

    Hey guys came to celebrate the good— sounds like World War 2 happened, what a shame. Ah well, getting back to my comment. I’m pretty happy about the news, yet I’m unsatisfied by the roster. I want more surprises like Wii Fit Trainer and Villager, plus more franchise representation. I feel like, every notable franchise with decent fanfare, that COULD get a character up and running, should be the focus first, then additional characters from franchises. It sets the tempo a bit and while you can’t please everyone, you should try to cast the widest net, rather than double down on existing franchises.

    You could say that’s how Nintendo’s been for awhile now in general, with the generational Mario Kart, 3D Mario game, Animal Crossing combination, oh and of course Smash Bros now joins that setup. There’s still some time and it looks like there’ll be some “hidden” characters still, so let’s cross fingers. I’m glad the leaks didn’t match up also, now the potential for surprises has returned. Seeing everyone speculating wildly is the fun of pre-launch Smash Bros.

  • Anamatroy

    Sal, someone said it would be Lucina and not Chrom last month. I think it’s entirely possible it was an honest mistake on your sources part, they do look alike after all. He also said your source mistook Marshal for the Chorus Men. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/69440637

    • ConkerBFD

      Fantastic. Glad to know all those people saying “The leaker’s a liar!!” can finally shut up. :) Thank you for supplying that link.

  • MechaSwool

    Who knows? Maybe the leaker mistook Chrom for being an actual character during Robin’s Final Smash.

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      hopefully

  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

    holy crap,coro coro is annoucing all the characters August 12th!

    • JuniorFear 485478469871

      Watch the leak even lose more credibily after the reveals at that date.

    • Tronjon

      Is this true?

      • DAF

        Apparently, but they said the same thing about CoroCoro leaking Brawl’s roster, but at the time Brawl got delayed and they only showed the beta starting roster (what you’re given early in the game).

        In the event that was because of the delay, then this time we may get the full roster, heck they revealed Mario Kart 8’s roster before release so it’s not unlikely.

        • Tronjon

          Ok, I see, well, even if it’s wrong, looking forward to August 12th :D!

  • Art Lumidraco

    So, were is Shulk and the Chorus kid, Gematsu?

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      they will join smash too

  • Tronjon

    I’m praying for Sceptile… very unlikely, but possible nonetheless. What do you guys think?

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      I think shulk and a character from rythm heaven are the last newcomers,many people want sceptile but his chances arent fantastic(yes it makes sense)but people are bitching about 4 pokemon characters,imagine 5 lmao.I want shulk as a newcomer,the rest,even if i dont like them,i still want as it feels like the game is completed.well actually i dont want iceclimbers,but he`s basically in

      • Tronjon

        Honestly, I hate Shulk, well actually I don’t, just EVERYBODY talks about him… but if he DOESN’T get it in, (which I’m sure he will) I’ll be happy just Cuz I am greedy about the amount of characters I get,

        BUT I do want my Sceptile, all I need and this game will be complete for me, just cuz stupid Fire and Water get all the Special treatment.

        • Tronjon

          Does*

          • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

            im betting on two new characters left,shulk and someone from rythm heaven

            • Tronjon

              I’m betting on 3. Those two, and Sceptile.

              • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                hell yes

  • DAF

    I found this on GameFAQs:
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/69658047

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsp5iI2CUAA478W.jpg

    Quoting CAW Evolution:
    “I’ve been reading through some of the Japanese bulletin boards in light of the latest Famitsu, and I found some new info in addition to a new scan (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsp5iI2CUAA478W.jpg).
    Here’s the rundown:

    1. Lucina was originally included as a Marth skin.
    2. “A certain character” was cut during development. (Chrom? Who knows. It’s not clarified.)
    3. Sakurai didn’t want to reduce the total number of characters.
    4. It wasn’t possible to make a brand new character on short notice.
    5. Lucina was repurposed into her own character slot to fill the void.”

    Maybe it holds merit to Monday’s reveal? I’m only posting what I found, feel free to disregard me if this is well known.

    • Fernando Garcia

      Thanks for this info. We’ll just have to see what happens in the future.

  • Guest

    I’m not so sure, but I was watching a smash run played as Mega Man, and I noticed that on the bottom screen one button said “Beam Sword” and it kinda looked like to me that it was the sword used by Bionis (Or Mechonis I get them mixed up) that is in the Xenoblade Chronicles. Maybe this means that Shulk will be in smash? I know no matter what that he will be in the games, if he isnt in smash I will bribe Sakurai to put him in. Yet again, I’m so confident he’ll be in it’s hard to say that he wont. Shulk is love, Shulk is life.

    • Tacocat10

      apparently deleting a comment makes it a guest comment?

  • Tacocat10

    I’m not so sure, but I was watching a smash run played as Mega Man, and I noticed that on the bottom screen one button said “Beam Sword” and it kinda looked like to me that it was the sword used by Bionis (Or Mechonis I get them mixed up) that is in the Xenoblade Chronicles. Maybe this means that Shulk will be in smash? I know no matter what that he will be in the games, if he isnt in smash I will bribe Sakurai to put him in. Yet again, I’m so confident he’ll be in it’s hard to say that he wont. Shulk is love, Shulk is life.

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      YES

  • Tronjon

    Guys, I think no matter who gets in, no matter how much we Disagree, we will all agree on one thing

    This will be amazing.

    FAAAAAAAAAAAALCCCCOOOONNNNEEEE PAAAAAAAWWWNNNCCCCHHHH! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      MONADO BUSTER

      • Tronjon

        HADOUKEN!!!!!!!!!!

        • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

          i want ryu also,but blackmage would be nice

          • Tronjon

            I’m fine with what we have, but I want Chorus Kids, Shulk, and Sceptile in, All I need, I don’t care after them. Veterans? I want Mr. G&W back, and Falco, you?

            • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

              i wouldnt mind mewtwo.i want shulk and chorus,falco is back 100% G%W is 80% back

              • Tronjon

                May I ask how Falco is 100%?

                • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                  he`s a main character in star fox,and is loved by fans

                  • Tronjon

                    Ok, I actually think he will be back because in one of the Captain Falcon pics an Arwing is behind him, possible foreshadowing O-O!? Btw by that logic, Mewtwo and Sceptile should be in too xD.

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      im not expecting mewtwo or sceptile but only time will tell

                    • Tronjon

                      Indeed… only time will tell…

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      i heard a rumor only 6 more characters are being added

                    • Tronjon

                      Like… WAIT… 3 NEWCOMERS… 3 VETERANS O_O???!!!!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      more like 2 newomers, 4 veterans which this rumor makes no sense.. Ganon,Falco, wario,ness and shulk and chOrus kids or marshall as newcomers. i highly doubt this is true , hence the word RUMOR

                    • Tronjon

                      Yeah, I feel this games roster will end up having 50 or more.

                    • Tronjon

                      Who’s Marshall? Link or pic please?

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      he`s the main chorus kd

                    • Tronjon

                      Oh.

                    • Tronjon

                      a know, even if Sceptile Shulk and the Chorus Kids don’t make it, there is always dlc.

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      the leaker said the dlc is disapointing

                    • Tronjon

                      What? When?

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      recently

                    • Tronjon

                      I had this weird dream where In a Newcomer Trailer, where Sceptile and Shulk were announced as playable characters 0-0…

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      they would be good characters

                    • Tronjon

                      Right?! Please let it be a premonition >-<!

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      Tronjon you must be shulk with ur future visions lol

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      HYPE TRAIN GOOOO SHULK

                    • Tronjon

                      I’ve never played Xenoblade Chronicles, but I’m going to get it just to see what the big thing with Shulk is.

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

                      it`s expensive now,if you want a long fun game (100 hours+) get it.it explains deep feelings of revenge and the philosophy of destiny with great characters you get to love and meet.they change over the story and its great.play it on a Wii U for HD

                    • Tronjon

                      I had a Wii U, so yeah ill do that, I also have a 3DS, so Omega Ruby here I come :D!

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado
                    • Tronjon

                      Heard about the new leak?

                    • https://www.youtube.com/user/snoopingusTGN?sub_confirmation=1 Xenado

                      im snoops,li lost my password.yes i have and i believe they are fake.i want shulk as a character though,he has alot of potential https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGSqCDcmsuM&list=UUzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg

                    • Guest

                      nvm

                    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado
                    • Tronjon

                      Me too, but that video doe, still think it’s fake though.

                    • Tronjon

                      Mhm.

  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

    Wii U version of smash is releasing November 21st

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/dgedawesome1 David G

    Man I’m so excited for Greninja. I can’t wait to play For Glory with him 1 on 1. I’m gonna put so many hours into this game.

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      Hell yeah

    • Tronjon

      I’m gonna play as Pac-Man :D.

  • Tronjon

    Sakurai, you troll you :D! Does Sal get to ask who gets in? Or does he just get told? If he can ask, please ask (from Your Friendly Neighborhood Tronjon ;D!) If Shulk, and Chorus Kids are the last of the newcomers, and If Sceptile has a chance of making it in :D!

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      he gets told the info,he is merely a messager

  • MechaSwool

    Okay, I just had an epiphany: what if the tipster had been notified of the newcomers at the very start of development when Chrom was still considered, but didn’t know about the Chrom/Robin switch?

    • Guest

      Its because Chrom got deconfirmed at pretty much the last moment. I’m pretty sure..

  • electevire2405

    Sakurai, the person who trolled the most persons with 1 trailer: guinness world records 2014

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHB1V2WZVuJXyU1LKeIJFg Xenado

      truu

  • Brian Alexis Maldonado

    It’s been 18 days since the so called leaker fucked up royally. He was quick to confirm Shulk as being the one who got announced that Monday (just like we all though, go figure). Not only did he get that wrong but he got Chrom wrong as well. For someone who was so confident on his info he sure has been silent lately… how’s about he own up and clear the air on this situation.

    • Fernando Garcia

      If you can get Sal to reveal the leaker’s information, do it ASAP.

  • Fernando Garcia

    Hey Sal,

    Can’t you do something to get this leaker talking? SOMETHING!?

    How about you expose him if he won’t talk?

  • Fernando Garcia

    How did he get so many right, you ask? He could have gotten some insider information.

    Predicting a newcomer isn’t exactly the easiest thing, and predicting eight newcomers is even harder. Little Mac, Palutena, or Mega Man might seem obvious right now (mainly thanks to hindsight), but the three had their critics on why they would not be in. Sakurai’s statement from E3 this year supports the whole notion that “a Pokemon from X/Y” would be revealed, and hence why he gave just that as his information.

    One of Sal’s statements suggests that the leaker does not work for Nintendo, but for Bandai Namco. He might have not recognized Greninja, or just merely heard an X/Y Pokemon would be in.

  • OverlordZetta

    If you couldn’t done it, then why didn’t you?

    You didn’t even list any of this so called evidence.

    Further, assuming the leaker isn’t the source, then it’s quite possible their source held back on them. It’s also possible the source knew the order of trailers and decided to “leak” knowing it would be right up until towards the end.

    There are so many more realistic explanations than “herp derp he made it up” that you aren’t accounting for that it just makes you look like a conspiracy nut.

  • Aidan Gamble

    What about Wii Fit Trainer? He predicted that, and searches of the entire internet have turned up a single prediction of her before her reveal, which was a joke. No amount of hindsight bias can justify that as a ‘safe choice’.

  • You Dumbasses Believed It All

    I look like a conspiracy nut for assuming that a guy on the Internet is posting lies? Haha, you’re hilarious.

    And the reason I didn’t do that is because I’m not a fucking idiot that pretends to be omniscient for attention.