Xbox One was December’s top-selling console in the U.S.
posted on 01.16.14 at 07:35 PM EDT by (@salromano)
Plus, December was Wii U's best sales month to date.

Xbox One

Xbox One was the top-selling console in the U.S. for the month of December with 908,000 units sold, according to NPD sales data released today.

3DS topped overall hardware sales for December and 2013 as a whole, however, but with its $499 price point, Xbox One “led annual hardware sales on a dollars basis,” according to the NPD.

Xbox 360 came in third place with 643,000 consoles sold, leading current-gen hardware sales. Altogether, Microsoft claimed “50 percent of the combined software, hardware, and accessories spend in the U.S.” with $1.39 billion was earned between Xbox One and Xbox 360.

While Xbox One led console sales in December, PlayStation 4’s two-month total makes it the best selling console during the two-month launch window, the NPD added. December numbers for PlayStation 4 were not shared, but Sony said it “sold every PS4 available at retail in the U.S. and were out of stock in December due to overwhelming consumer demand.”

As far as total sales go, Xbox One sold through three million in 2013, while PlayStation 4 topped 4.2 million sales.

December 2013 was Wii U’s best month in the U.S. to date. While specific sales numbers were not shared, Nintendo said it was its “highest month for unit sales.”

These were December’s top ten selling games:

  1. Call of Duty: Ghosts (Activision)
  2. Battlefield 4 (EA)
  3. Just Dance 2014 (Ubisoft)
  4. Madden NFL 25 (EA)
  5. NBA 2K14 (2K Sports)
  6. Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag (Ubisoft)
  7. Grand Theft Auto V (Rockstar Games)
  8. LEGO Marvel Super Heroes (Warner Bros.)
  9. FIFA 14 (EA)
  10. Skylanders SWAP Force (Activision)

Thanks, NeoGAF, GameSpot.

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  • DarthBrian

    ‘Sony said it “sold every PS4 available at retail in the U.S. and were out of
    stock in December due to overwhelming consumer demand.”’

    Nice. :)

  • Warboss Aohd

    to be fair, i heard from an employee at my local gamestop when i stopped there to get Valhalla Knights 3 and a crapload of Steam Points that alot of Xbox Ones were returned after Christmas because alot of people who got them as gifts didn’t want them.

    i’m neutral in the whole console war thing because i’m not an idiot who limits himself on one console, or limits myself to PC or Console out of some kind of misguided loyalty, but that’s what i heard.

  • http://gamewise.co/ Nick Pantazis

    Another interesting point, if you total up Microsoft’s sales as provided by various global trackers (done by neogaf) they’ve sold roughly 2.35 million units before adding in Canada, Italy,and Australia. The chances of those markets bringing the system above 2.7 million or so are pretty low, meaning Microsoft likely exaggerated quite a bit when they claimed 3 million Xbox Ones sold through by the end of 2013.

    • Six

      That wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. I love the Xbox brand, but holy shit, do I wish they’d shut up and get their shit straight.

      I miss J Allard.

      • Anime10121

        J Allard was the best the Xbox brand has ever had, and likely ever will :(

        http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/7/72053/2506758-0576000293-11230.jpg

        Straight pimpin yo!

        • Six

          Phil Spencer isn’t TOO bad, but he is definitely no Allard. Getting me that Phantom Dust for Xbone would be a start though.

          It’s just depressing. I can only imagine what the Xbox One would be like if J Allard was still here, and if the suits at the top hadn’t gotten their hands on it.

          I’m sure it would have been glorious.

          • Budgiecat

            Phantom Dust was indeed cool.

            That, Shenmue 2, and Breakdown are like the only XBox (1) games I got…

            • Six

              Panzer Dragoon Orta, Jet Set Radio and Ninja Gaiden Black are all great.

              Lots of other stuff I still want to go back and get, like the Otogi games and Gunvalkyrie.

              Did you know the same team that made both Jet Set Radio games, Panzer Dragoon Orta and Gunvalkyrie now makes those Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games titles?

              Because I didn’t. And now I’m pissed.

              • Anime10121

                Thats what happens when good games sell like crap, and crap games sell like golden shit sculpted in Mario/Sonic’s faces :/

                • Six

                  That new Mario & Sonic game straight-up cratered if I’m remembering right.

                  But I’m sure that won’t result in Sega going “Hey, remember Panzer Dragoon? Why don’t you guys give that another go”.

          • Anime10121

            Spencer’s straight, I mean, I like him in interviews and stuff, but Allard had charisma. He did more than just provide good interviews, he seemed “likeable” on stage and more than some corporate dude in a suit trying to sell you a black box.

            But yeah, the One LOL Neo would have been so much more had he still been at the helm…

    • Eric Pena

      These are only usa firgures xbox 1 launched in 13 markets 3 millions possible .

      • http://gamewise.co/ Nick Pantazis

        In the USA the Xbox One has only sold 1.8 million units to date. The 2.35 million figure I claimed above includes every other major market (France, Germany, Spain, and the UK). There are of course other, much much smaller, markets that the Xbox One is released in, but the sales numbers there will be in the single digit thousands or the teens at best.

        Italy itself is likely in the teens, and Australia is almost guaranteed to be below 50K. The only real major market missing is Canada, which tends to total between 5 and 10 percent of US sales (so 90K – 180K). Hence the deduction that it’s very unlikely MS hit the target they claimed.

        • Eric Pena

          I dont think we able to comfirm any of those but i do see your point . 3 millions sounded great until sony announced 4.2 mill as of dec 28 .

          • http://gamewise.co/ Nick Pantazis

            We don’t have exact numbers you’re right. It’s estimates, but I’m basing them on past ratios of sales, so unless the Xbox One is just uncannily popular in those territories, the general “sales ranges” should be about the same.

            • Eric Pena

              again the problem is xbox 1 had excited all expectation after all the bad pr it had how can you tell how popular a system is when the system should not have sold pass 1 million . You gotta remember the people online are the hardcore and are no mean to judge how the general public will react to a product

          • Six

            3 million is good for a console that is $100 more expensive, available in less than half of the countries, and is much more hated than the competition.

  • Eric Pena

    I can find an xbox 1 every store in nyc . The ps4 sold out everywhere i think it safe to say PlayStation seem to have recover it position as top dog but again it far too early to tell.

  • Six

    Glad that the Xbone and 360 are performing well.

    Also, that top 10 list is horrifyingly depressing.

    • $18114340

      AMERICA FUCK YEAH

      Battlefield 4: proving once again that gamers exercise no discretion when purchasing unfinished products.

      • Six

        Hopefully March will change things up a bit since it has it’s fair share of heavy hitters with Titanfall, inFAMOUS, Final Fantasy X HD and Dark Souls II.

        • Budgiecat

          After hearing about FF X 2.5 novella and the audio drama, I don’t wanna hear anything anymore about FF X. It’s dead to me.

          • Six

            Yeah, it’s pretty shit.

            I’m all up for morbid, twisted and sexual elements in my games, but keep that shit out of Final Fantasy.

            • Budgiecat

              felt more like a Drakengard moment….

          • Anime10121

            Not gonna let a novel (which doesnt exist in my mind) ruin the 2 year wait I had for X|X-2.

  • Budgiecat

    PS4 would have easily sold more if it were just available for purchase…

    • AdamBoy64

      Yeah, that’s a two-edged sword, for sure.

      People might celebrate the fact that the PS4 is selling out everywhere. That means it’s in demand, for sure.
      But in the end, it’s Sony losing out on sales.

      • icecoffemix

        It’s still selling 1.2M more than X1 WW, we don’t really know how much it sold on NA, its biggest market.

  • bloodiOS

    It actually would’ve been rather unsettling had the PS4 managed to sell more.

    • Budgiecat

      eh?

      • bloodiOS

        If the PS4 managed to sell more in America, home of Xbox, while desperately trying to keep up with the demand of all the countries it launched in would be too shocking for me to take.

        • Budgiecat

          Why? PS2 dominated the U.S. when the firs XBox was around. Why is that all of a sudden an impossibility again. We all know why PS3 failed at first to gain 1st position (initial high price, no gaems, downgraded ports, lost exclusives, one year delay, complicated devkits)

          • Six

            It’s pretty obvious that the PS4 is going to dominate this console generation.

            However, it won’t be the PS2-style domination that many are hoping it will be.

            • Budgiecat

              Can’t be. Now that we got the Mobage Garbage movement in full stride..

              • Six

                I can only hope all of the talent from these big Japanese companies bail to form their own teams like Platinum, Tango and Valhalla have.

                Let Square Enix and Capcom try and fail to be next Gung-Ho.

                • Budgiecat

                  Recently Square-Enix made some comment about the now realized potential of the 3DS, upon seeing Capcom’s MH4 sales….and they obviously got jelly about it what with them wasting time in the meantime making silly iOS ports not generating anywhere near that amount of income…

                  But really they’re just stupid…

                  • Six

                    I’m still pissed off about that damn countdown they did for The World Ends With You.

                    A damn iOS port. A proper 3DS sequel would have gotten tons of hype and attention.

                    • Anime10121

                      I remember it was funny, right after the iOS port was announced, they were assuring fans that they were still working on “unnanouced” TWEWY projects, and yet, the only other TWEWY game to come out has been… ANOTHER iOS social game XD

                      I love SE, but sometimes I hate the shit out of em

                    • Six

                      Like so many other big Japanese devs, and even Microsoft, they are just chalk full of fucking potential, but they just seem to not care anymore.

                    • Budgiecat

                      And now they’re removing it I heard….

          • bloodiOS

            Uh… I’m not talking about long term here, I’m talking about how things are at the moment. For the PS4 to come out on top while desperately keeping up with the demand of all the countries it launched in (something like 50, was it?) would be too crazy. Beside, unlike the PS2 time, these two consoles launched at more or less the same time frame (not a whole year apart), and people (especially in North America) are much more supportive of the Xbox brand now. The XBO came out on top in December is common sense, while the PS4 comes out on top would’ve been one hell an irregularity.

  • Anime10121

    Well I pretty much figured Xbox would continue to lead in the US, I mean at this point it’s built up far too large a user base to really lose it’s leading position. The markets different than it was previously, as before there weren’t networks and online identities tied to each console. I’m also fairly positive they allocated more units here than anywhere else, which would be smart considering it’s their strongest market by far.

  • HighBrowDrifter

    I am truly baffled by the fact that people are actually buying Xbones (all console-war hostility aside)…..considering Microsoft’s business practices and their mind boggling stage presentation last year. They stabbed many consumers in the back, only to reverse their propositions weeks/months later.

    I am not saying Sony is innocent, by all means…..they pulled some shady business in the past…..but this time around (so far), they redeemed themselves.

    Regardless of my rambling, I hope every console has a successful and promising generation….3,2,1

    Xbone sucks Houdini sack. Everyone who bought one is a fool. PS4 sucks too, ugly looking parallelogram with atrocious graphics and no games. Wii-U? More like F#$%-U. PS Vita and 3DS? Go kill yourself. PC is too expensive, booo! COLECOVISION FOR ZE WORLD!!!

    ……come at me! /s

    -Pupin

    • Six

      Microsoft reversed all of the shitty DRM practices they had planned to put into place. If they hadn’t, then they would have deserved to have crashed and burned, and I say that as an Xbox fan.

      But since they didn’t go through with it, I hope they have a successful machine on their hands, and I look forward to purchasing one in the future.

      • Budgiecat

        They had an embarrassing moment; caught with their pants down about to attack gamers in the butt.

        Then they were like “just kidding!” zipped it back up and people were like okay….

        But who’s to say they won’t try it again?

        • Six

          And their reputation has been tarnished for it. They deserved every bit of hate they got.

      • HighBrowDrifter

        You know….I just find it sad that they needed backlash before they realized they made a mistake. The whole DRM dilemma could have been avoided.

        I am certain they will have make a lot of profit…..but at what cost?

        • Six

          It’s pretty obvious what happened. The suits at the top of Microsoft got their hands on it, and decided to fuck with shit.

          I don’t doubt for a second that if the Xbox Division was left alone to do their thing, like with the 360, we’d have a very powerful, very popular console on the market right now carrying the Xbox name.

          • HighBrowDrifter

            Even though I personally prefer Sony brands, I agree with your statement. Xbox 360 was quite successful in the past…..but for some reason, Microsoft chose a different path.

            Oh well…..time will tell.

  • ShawnOtakuSomething

    …….I lost all hope…….I just dumbfounded by this news

    • Six

      I hope it keeps you up at night.

      • ShawnOtakuSomething

        what keeps me up at night….is the fact that we don’t have the Dreamcast 2 yet

        • Six

          Yeah, that is pretty depressing.

          • ShawnOtakuSomething

            “waiting on a Neo-geo blu ray console”

        • Eric Pena

          Could a dreamcast 2 be good that in this age? But i sure love to play sheume 3 and finally see ryu get revenge .

          • Six

            It could be if Sega still made games like they used to. Once they discontinued the Dreamcast, it’s like they just kinda lost it.

            They kept going on the OG Xbox and Gamecube for a while, but that kinda petered out.

            • Eric Pena

              True but if a dreamcast 2 existed its might be another wii u in term of third party support . Would you want there to be another wii u ?

              • Six

                In my dream world, Sega would still be in the industry, but with all of Microsoft’s franchises and market-share.

                Shit would be incredible. I’d be looking forward to playing Halo 5 and the next Jet Set Radio on my Sega whateveryoudcallit.

                • Eric Pena

                  Lol i dont believe bugie would had made halo for dreamcast i think halo would had remain pc only or jump to ps2.

              • ShawnOtakuSomething

                true….but the wii-u has indie support

                • Eric Pena

                  Ps4 had so far best the indie to go to that and the vita.

          • ShawnOtakuSomething

            with altus, yeah I think it could do very well.

            • Eric Pena

              Altus created a strong PlayStation relationship since the dreamcast . So truthfully i Wouldn’t see altus take it time to develop for a dreamcast 2 inthis age of gaming .

    • miyamoto

      ITS A SPIN DOCTOR NEWS. M$ will spin it its way as much as it can. NPD and M$ are pals These numbers can easily be manipulated in the Murica

      Don’t worry . It won’t be for long when Sony keeps up with demand and PS4 numbers pull away as far as it can from M$’s machine.

      • Six

        This has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read. It’s GameFAQs/N4G levels of fanboy drivel.

        • Bryce Blalex Douglas

          I don’t know about the NPD and Microsoft being pals part but it is a spin on Microsoft’s part. Sony has a million lead on them in total sales which means a lot more than Microsoft selling more in America alone; the only country Microsoft is beating Sony on.

          But let’s be honest, if Sony could have given more supply to American over other countries those figures would show Sony the true winner. And that’s just on GameStop’s word alone when they said back in early December that about 2 million people were still waiting on PS4’s.

  • Bob Obb

    America is retarded

    • HighBrowDrifter

      The World is retarded.

  • http://www.cubiz.tk/ Auragar

    I am not going to make this a fanboy thing, but I think the reason Xbox One sold more was simply because there were NO PS4s to be sold. I mean it did sell more overall.

    • icecoffemix

      No, it didn’t happen with Wii, and it doesn’t happen now.

      Xbox is still a big brand on NA no matter how much MS screwed the whole thing leading to XB1 launch, so it’s normal.

      • Elvick

        wat

        • icecoffemix

          What did you not understand?

          Wii was supply constrained for months and it didn’t help PS3 back then.

          Xbox is a huge brand in NA and not everyone of them read and follow hardcore video game news. It’s simple really.

          • Bryce Blalex Douglas

            You can’t compare Wii to PS3. The PS3 was $200-300 more than the Wii when it launched not $100.
            If Sony would have been able to take all those PS4s on reserve for other countries launches and gave them to the US they would have dominated plain and simple. I work at a GameStop and both systems are selling well, just the PS4 is the more asked for system. Everytime we get a shipment in it’s gone within a day. X1s we continuously have

            • icecoffemix

              I can’t? Despite the fact that Sony was fresh out from their best generation ever?

              And umm I never said that they don’t want PS4 or anything. In fact I’m supporting the fact that people don’t buy XBox 1 just because they can’t buy PS4.

              Calm down with the hasty respond, I’m not attacking your favorite system, just stating the fact.

              • Bryce Blalex Douglas

                Excuse me if I sounded accusatory. But, I still don’t think you can compare the two. The Wii still beat the PS3 while being continuously sold out because at that point in time not many people wanted a PS3. It was too expensive, didn’t have hardly any good games, and people were turned off by Sony’s blatant arrogance.

                The situation is different this go around. The PS4 and X1 are on more even ground in terms of pricing and games. The X1 only sold more because the PS4 wasn’t in stock as much. I’m not saying the X1 wouldn’t have sold as much, I’m just saying the PS4 would have sold more.

                • McPoo

                  I’d argue that the PS4 and Xbox One are different enough that if one is out of stock, the consumer isn’t going to buy the other one by default.

                  The difference in features (and in price) I think are enough to ensure the average consumer will have their heart set on one over the other, and those who are after a PS4 aren’t going to drop another $100 or however much it is, to buy an Xbone with completely different features just because they couldn’t get a PS4.

                  • Bryce Blalex Douglas

                    I agree. What I meant was in terms of sales numbers the only reason why the X1 has higher numbers is because the PS4 was out of stock. I don’t think that many people bought a X1 because they couldn’t get a PS4.

                    • McPoo

                      My apologies, I must have read your comment wrong.

                • icecoffemix

                  Uh huh, water cooler, orth #dealwithit, 24H DRM, Mattick “we have product for it, x360”, the 180°, the kinect, the messaging problem, hardware disprepancy and all other little tidbit doesn’t happen at all, nope.

                  If you follow (a little while before) the reveal up to launch, XB1 was arguably one of the most roller coastered story of a product launch. Of course, the general public probably are largely unaware of it (except for the famous one like the DRM which some of them still misunderstood to this day).

          • Elvick

            That’s not exactly comparable… Wii was what… two times cheaper than the PS3? Plus had the “zomg I can exercise and play games” fad going for it. PS3 didn’t. It had bluray and being a cheap bluray player, but it’s not the same thing.

            Xbone and PS4 are on more level ground and are appealing to similar groups of people. The Wii and PS3 were not. In both focus and pricing.

            • icecoffemix

              So you really believe that people will just buy a 5 year investment which is also $100 more expensive because they can’t find the other in store?

              Okay.

              • Elvick

                When the vast majority of people care more about third party software, yes. And that is the case. The biggest games are 3rd party.

                Note every charting software being 3rd party.

                • icecoffemix

                  Either way, we both have no way to be 100% sure if supply constraint is the reason at all. From anecdotal evidence I’ve read however, it doesn’t seem to be so.

                  By the way, those 3rd party games are also available on older platform.

                  Edit: Oh yeah, forgot another case where supply constraint didn’t affect anything, PS2 vs Dreamcast.

                  • Elvick

                    It’s just an example of 3rd party success. Look at GTA5 vs GT6 sales. Even if you cut GTA5 sales in half for PS3/360, it still shits all over GT. And that’s Sony’s largest IP.

                    3rd party content is what moves the industry as a whole. Not first party from Sony or MS.

                    • icecoffemix

                      No I know that, I never disagree with that.

              • Pyrofrost

                When it comes to Christmas time, parents, the popularity the 360 built, the reputation XBL has built, and almost all 3rd party games being multi-plat; then yes, yes they will.

                Though it’s fair to say; the key thing that hurt Sony was them underestimating demand and not being able to keep up, just like with the PS2.

                • icecoffemix

                  Sony isn’t hurting or anything, they sold everything they can produce and the demand is crazy even today.

                  I think it’s hard to say them underestimating demand when selling 4.2M unit within 2 months of launch is unheard of until this day (and that’s a very impressive number unit produced for a console launch).

                  • Pyrofrost

                    When I say hurt, I mean the amount of sales lost due to the shortage of systems available. Regardless of the amount sold (or how impressive the numbers are), those numbers could have been even better if PS4s were more readily available. The XBox One wouldn’t have sold as many as it did if the PS4 were more readily available.

                    I can assure you, this holiday season, many XBone sales came from people going to the store to buy PS4s. It was the same thing last gen when people came to the store for Wiis and walked out with 360s. The PS2 didn’t have a competitor, so the shortage of that was a non-issue.

                    • icecoffemix

                      Poor Dreamcast lol.

                      And no I don’t believe that’s what happening here, yes I believe there are those who buy XB1 over PS4 because of stock issue but not in any significant degree.

      • http://www.cubiz.tk/ Auragar

        I don’t remember the Wii. But I understand Xbox is still a big bran. Like I said this wasn’t meant to be fanboy-ish. Though I do have to say MS is still fucking everybody with the Xbox One, but as I refuse to buy the console I don’t have a right to speak I suppose.

    • DarthNemesis

      This is true.I dont know.anyone who had a 360 with an X1or who plans to buy one.

  • SuperLuigi

    Lol at all the butthurt. Its just a console. Does it take the fun away from your ps4/wii u if it did worse?

    • Six

      Based on some reactions, you’d seriously think that was the case.

  • Wolf Star

    I’m surprised that people can afford Xbox One. plus don’t forget Xbox One $100 more then the Ps4. I guess the few Xbox One games won them over..

    • Six

      Or maybe their friends are all getting Xbones. Or maybe they are invested in the Xbox ecosystem. Or maybe they like the controller more. Or maybe they want it for it’s multi-media functions. Or maybe they like Kinect.

      It’s a mystery…

      • Wolf Star

        Idk who down voted me but anyway.. I guess People love that damn Kinect Sensor.

        • Six

          I downvoted you.

          • Wolf Star

            oh… well anyway look at this prank xD it’s funny http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mWZLa4AnN5k

            • Six

              Yeah, I saw that. It’s great.

              Also, some of those voices are clearly children who shouldn’t be playing that game. >_>

              • Wolf Star

                Yeah that’s why I stayed away from
                Xbox live community.. Children playing Cod.. Still do.. :/

                • Six

                  I was called a “dishonorable faggot” once in Dark Souls, so it isn’t just CoD. xD

                  • Wolf Star

                    Woah 0__o ..

                    • Six

                      Yeah, dude invaded my game and I whooped his ass. He was obviously not too happy about it.

                      Then again, I fight dirty in Dark Souls. That’s what fools get for coming into my dojo. :D

                    • Wolf Star

                      Your good at that game xD
                      I never played it.. My friend plays it and he says it’s hard :P

                  • Budgiecat

                    Do you know the term faggot was actually originally not a derogatory word for homosexuals? It was coined by the gay community in NY circa 1880 to 1940 in order to differentiate masculine gays from effeminate ones. The masculine ones were called queers and the feminine ones were called faggots; the term fairy was also used but not sure in what context.
                    The word may have either derived from the British term which meant a pile of sticks originally, and then was a symbol used during the old witch hunts to any male who was spared being burned by fire (they had to wear the symbol on their sleeve so the public knew who they were). Later, it came to mean “an ill mannered woman”, and many years later, the British use for the term of cigarettes (guess since it was from ‘pack of sticks’).
                    Somehow or another the term made its way over to the West, possibly used in connection with the Yiddish term feygela which meant ‘little bird’ or ‘little girl’.
                    So somehow its possible the Jewish homosexual community in NY at that time adopted that word along with the rest and the two definitions fused. “Ill mannered frail little girly man” if you will. But a term used by them which over time, was used against them ironically….

                  • McPoo

                    That’s such a strange insult…

                    • Six

                      I’m amazed that he was angry enough to go through all of the trouble to send me a message.

                      I must have really upset him.

                    • McPoo

                      I find certain types of game you’ll get more hate mail. I never really got any in Call of Duty strangely enough, but playing a fighting game like Injustice, I’d get them all the time >.>

                      Still, ‘Dishonorable faggot’ is a really odd insult. It starts off like it might be quite a dignified insult, then they blow it by using faggot.

                    • Six

                      Out of all the shooters I’ve played, I only got hate mail once during Gears of War 3, and that was because I had to bail right in the middle of playing horde mode.

                      I’ve gotten numerous messages from Dark Souls though. Most for killing people invading me and getting accused of not playing fair, or not treating it like a “duel”.

                      I’ve never played any fighting games online enough to get any hate mail, but I’ve heard many people get shit from BlazBlue.

                    • McPoo

                      You’re not Xaltmas by any chance, are you?

                    • Six

                      Was it me mentioning Gears of War 3 what gave it away?

                      Are there really that few people here who like shooters?

                    • McPoo

                      Haha it honestly was. I read your response then went back to doing other stuff. Then I thought “hang on, people on this site don’t like shooters, especially those that appeal to a western audience, and are exclusive to Microsoft… something doesn’t add up here”.

                      I’m glad you’re back though, the community here could do with a little balancing out.

                    • Six

                      Sal posts a lot of stuff relevant to western gaming fans, so I don’t know why this place is such an echo chamber for JRPGs and Playstation.

                      I mean, if you want a circle-jerk about Glorious Nippon, Siliconera is just a few clicks away.

                      I was about to bail out for good, but some people on PSN got in touch with me and convinced me to stay.

                      I figured it wasn’t worth giving up the discussions I have with good people just because some can’t stand that I like Xbox and FPS titles.

                    • McPoo

                      And now that you’re back, I can continue to convince you that Shadowrun is the best FPS on the 360 :)

                    • Six

                      Serious time now.

                      Is it really worth getting? If it is, it’s like $5, and I’ll pick it up.

                      I just can’t tell if you are messing with me or not, because the game wasn’t exactly well-received by fans and critics, at least from what I’ve heard.

                    • McPoo

                      I’m always serious when it comes to Shadowrun.

                      It’s a steal at that price. I honestly think it’s my favourite ever shooter, and I’ve played it at least once a week since it released in 07.

                      There’s 4 races, a bunch of spells, tech, guns, and a sword, and it’s like CS where you earn cash every round and buy stuff in between. The beauty though is everything is so perfectly balanced. There’s some abilities that are more suited to newcomers, but you never feel like they’re unfair to those not using them.

                      You don’t automatically respawn, which encourages teamwork. You need to be resurrected by someone with the rez spell, and when you’re resurrected by them, you lock up part of their magic bar until you die. There’s tutorials that explain all this, there’s a fair amount of nuance to the game though.

                      You can clear bodies to stop them being rezzed, but I wouldn’t. It’s frowned upon by the community and will get you kicked. Speaking of the community, most have been playing for years. As long as you do your bit for the team though, like healing or support damage, Nobodies gonna rage at you. A good beginner strategy is to play elf, as they have health regeneration, then run around resurrecting fallen team mates. You earn easy cash and you’ll be a useful member of the team.

                      I could talk for days about it, but really all you should do is spend that five bucks and get your self a copy of my Game of the Generation :)

                      Oh yeah. Fans didn’t like it cos it basically ignores Shadowrun lore completely. They took a very in depth cyberpunk table top RPG game, stripped everything out of it other than a few races and tech, and turned it into a team based shooter. I can understand why they were pissed tbh.

                      Critic reviews didn’t seem to mind it, although it was full price on release with no story mode and a fairly limited selection of maps and modes which brought it down.

                    • Six

                      Well, damn. I’ll pick up a copy.

                    • kiri25

                      I might be reading this post wrong but it just comes off to me as if ur saying if u like JRPG and playstation go to Sili. for that stuff.

                      Sal posts a lot of great stuff and a good deal of it is JRPG’s so I understand why it’s a great place for JRPG news. At the sametime he posts a lot of western content as we’ll but to say just b/c u like FPS and xbox those members should go to sili for that stuff is just wrong.

                      Anyway again if I’m taking the comment wrong my apologies it just came off that way to me and it’s great u like Xbox and FPS tho I’m more a JRPG person and therefore a playstation guy b/c it provides me with the games I like, b/c at the end of the day the games r what make a console.

                    • Six

                      Given the variety of stuff that gets posted here, it’s only logical that it would attract more than one kind of gamer.

                      I was once asked why I even post here, because I once said I don’t like JRPGs.

                      On the front page there are articles for Titanfall, Hitman and Killer Instinct. Why should I have to be a JRPG fan to post here?

                      I was just saying if you only like JRPGs and you want nothing but JRPGs, Siliconera is probably a better choice than Gematsu.

                    • Eric Pena

                      xbox had a bad 3 years i think truthfully for me i got bored with brand .

                    • Six

                      When it comes to first party games, no question. Microsoft really dropped the ball.

                      I can only hope the Xbone is more like the original Xbox and the early years of the 360 when it comes to output.

                      Hopefully Sony will keep them on their toes.

      • DarthNemesis

        Or maybe they like buying overrated over priced products and have bad taste in gaming or they could not find a PS4?

        • Six

          People like you are why I moved away from PlayStation consoles.

          • Budgiecat

            Really? You let other gamers opinion effect what items you purchase? I find it hard to believe you’re that weak willed…

            • Six

              This site is filled with fanboys and console warriors. Why do you feel the need to always judge me over everyone else?

  • http://gamewise.co/ Nick Pantazis

    Vita only sold 95K in the US in December (for comparison that’s worse than any December the SEGA Saturn ever had, and less than 1/5th what even the beleaguered Wii U managed). Tearaway has only sold 50K LTD in the US. I hate my home country sometimes. At least it’s picking up in Japan, and at least people keep localizing Japanese games for me to play on my Vita.

    • Six

      Now THAT is the shit that people should be upset about. Such a phenomenal piece of hardware. It’s straight-up depressing how poorly it is doing.

      • http://gamewise.co/ Nick Pantazis

        My greatest fear is that if this sales level keeps up Sony won’t be able to afford to maintain the Vita overseas, and it’ll shut down. I’ve found so many fun indie and Japanese games on my Vita, and there are still more to look forward to in the future (I can’t wait for Danganronpa as an Ace Attorney fan!), but that future is looking pretty short term after those sales numbers. :(

        • Six

          Yeah, I’m absolutely terrified that it’l just get to the point where it isn’t worth it anymore. There are still quite a few games that I’m looking forward to like Borderlands 2, both Project Diva titles and Shinovi Versus. It’s just a great system, and every time the doom and gloom starts (usually with the NPD results) it just gets depressing.

          Some insiders have said that Sony has no intention of dropping the platform, and given it’s fantastic attach rate and digital sales, it’s a profitable device.

          I can only hope that they are right.

    • Eric Pena

      That sony own fought they should had made the vita into a cell phone . image it was able to make real calls text and had an unlimited plan and was offer for free or even 99 dollars with a two year contract .And you could buy it without the cell part as it is today for the same price 199 . I think the vita could had out did the 3ds

    • Elvick

      95k with absolutely zero backing from the company that makes it is good in my opinion. They’re lucky it sold anything. There’s no presence. With no Sony backing, retailers aren’t bothering either.

      SCEA does nothing to help push the Vita. They didn’t even give a great first party FPS on the PS Vita, in the US a bundle, or advertising in general. Nothing. And that would have been a game to sell some Vitas in the US too. If people knew it and Vita existed that is.

      And that game is a true showcase of what Vita is capable of.

      They just shit it out a week before GTAV. And granted, they (Sony) announced the date before GTAV matched it. Which had Sony move the date up a week to help salvage it, they did nothing else.

  • Six

    Apparently Project Diva F has sold 16k copies so far in the US. I don’t know what to think about that.

    On one hand, it’s Hatsune Miku, and it required little translation. On the other hand, it’s a Sega game. I dunno what that bodes for the future of the series in the west.

    • icecoffemix

      Aw man, though it seems like they think it’s good enough to release the Vita version. Probably because it’s basically the same game so localization is done.

      Not sure what will they do with PJDF2 though. :/

      • Elvick

        I don’t think that’s their thought process with the Vita version.

        Because if it was… it would have launched with the PS3 version like it should have in the first place.

        • icecoffemix

          PS3 was the safer choice since it has much higher install base than Vita. Now the fact that they’re launching the Vita version may be because :
          1. The game is not profitable enough and they realize that Vita user base love this kind of game so they want to recoup the loss by making the game.
          2. The game is successful enough and they want to maximize profit by releasing the Vita version since it’s cheaper to do it now that the PS3 version is already done (being the same game and all).

          • Elvick

            1. No. If it’s not profitable they wouldn’t waste more resources putting it out on more platforms.

            2. No. Cost doesn’t change since they were already doing the PS3 localization work. It’s the same now as it was then.

            3. They are incompetent.

            • icecoffemix

              1. Being just profitable is not good enough. Company’s resources is not unlimited, if they can allocate it for more profitable IP, they will.

              2. So they need to pay for translation again? And do you know the inner working of the game development since you seems to be familiar with it. It’s practically the same game with PS3 and I wager that a lots of tools and practically all worked assets are compatible.

              • Elvick

                I was going to answer back, but realized this is hardly the topic for it. So let’s just end it.

                • icecoffemix

                  hahaha

    • Budgiecat

      Wow, Yakuza 4 sold 130,000 in the U.S. alone. 100,000 in Europe.

      and Hakuoki: Demon of the Fleeting Blossom, a visual novel, sold 80,000 in the U.S. on the PSP

      The PSP…in the U.S. in 2012

      Sega REALLY just sucks at marketing…

      • Six

        Do you have a source for those numbers that isn’t VGChartz?

        • Budgiecat

          Well its true that Hakuoki won top honors for highest selling PSP game of 2012 at a time on Amazon…

          Here’s an old article showing the game debuted at 30K alone Feb 2012 in the first week of its sales

          http://www.geimin.co.uk/2012/02/27/

          • Six

            That site is using VGChartz as a source.

            • Budgiecat

              Oh well, like I mentioned though, it did hit Amazons best seller list at several times..

              Take it up with VGchartz if you dont trust them I guess….looks like there’s an email address link there too…

  • http://www.gengame.net/ Alex Plant

    I hate when people use gross dollar sales when discussing hardware. With hardware, it’s margins that matter, not gross revenues.

  • McPoo

    I think Gematsu might be my favourite place to read Microsoft related news.

  • http://Gematsu.com Vayne

    It’s time for us to buy games and hardware in the style of Japan

  • karmacoma

    Heh. I remember leading up to both launches, I’d read reports saying that Sony was making sure they were manufacturing more units than expected to be able to sell throughout the holidays. Microsoft was supposedly running late or low with their manufacturing. But since launch, I’ve only seen PS4s in stock twice, and they were just a single unit each time, not a healthy stock. I’ve only *not* seen the XB1 in stock once. Every other time, I’d see two three units on the shelves. It gave me the impression that the PS4 was selling but the XB1 wasn’t, but now to hear that the XB1 sold more (in America).. it just says that Sony is spreading their allotment around all markets, whereas Microsoft is making sure to serve the markets where they are strongest. Also, Microsoft must’ve really amped up production post-launch.

    This isn’t a fanboy response in favor of either company, it’s just me realizing that things aren’t always as they seem. Selling out doesn’t equate to most sold.

  • kiri25

    I believe the the reason why XB1 sold more in dec was in fact simply due to a lack of PS4 supply in the states. Even now XB1’s are extremely easy to find where as the PS4 is still rather difficult to get. The reason for this tho is rather simple I think.

    PS4: 4.2mil sold in 40+ countries
    XB1: 3mil sold in 13 countries

    When looking at this it’s rather clear why XB1 is so easy to find, less counties they need to ship there consoles to. Now if say Sony had decided to do the same release in so few countries, one can only guess as to how well the console would have sold in the US. The PS4 after all sold 1mil consoles in 24hrs in the US, something the supposedly US dominate XBox could not do.

    With that it’s anyone’s guess as to how well the system would have sold in the US if say Sony had released the PS4 in less countries like MS chose to do.

    • karmacoma

      While that’s all true, the same could be said the other way. If the XB1 was sold in 40+ countries, how many sales would it have worldwide? It’s true that Sony tends to sell more internationally than Microsoft does, but that’s not to say that it doesn’t sell in those places at all.

      • kiri25

        My statement was in response to why xb1 sold so well in US not worldwide sells, however since u mentioned it if say XB1 had released in 40+ countries like Sony, that in turn would have effected there supply in the US and thus quiet possibly killed there chance of gaining any ground in the US.

        I only mentioned worldwide sells to show that Sony had more places to ship there supply to than MS which is why it’s easier for MS to keep the XB1 in supply here in the states.

        Of course it’s true if Ms had releases in 40+ one can only guess as to its worldwide sells, but it would effect the US supply and thus making this best console sold in US for dec. less likely in my opinion.

        • karmacoma

          I agree. I said as much in my post just below yours. All I’m saying is that since the their situation isn’t 100% identical, it’s impossible to predict which would actually be ahead on even grounds. The internet might be mostly behind the PS4, but as has been shown time and time again, internet hype doesn’t always reflect real-life sales or opinion.

          I’m curious to see how the PS4 does when it launches in Japan next month. I have no doubt whatsoever that it’ll vastly outsell the XB1 there, as has been the case even when MS has had an impressive lineup (early 360 days) but I’m curious to see if Japan will flock to stores early or wait till the PS4 has a better lineup before pulling the plug (as they did with the PS3).

          • kiri25

            Well that’s another thing to take into consideration with another launch it could effect supply tho seeing as it japan only idk how much of an impact it might have on US supply.

            As for Japan tho idk the country is more about handhelds. Plus with the only major system seller title in my opinion Yakuza Ishin being on both PS3/4 it’s not really helping to push the ps4 sells unless u just really want it in 1080 and for the vita features that’s available able with the ps4 ver.

  • Lelouch Vi Britannia

    Good for Microsft and Good for Sony for having a successful launch. Now seriously everyone lets move on and game instead of arguing about which console is better.

  • Ken Ambrose Jakosalem

    Microsoft trying to make it sound good. Cause that’s how xbox people are

  • $3582264

    That’s hardly a gaming console.