Tomb Raider is 60fps on PS4, 30fps rumored on Xbox One
posted on 01.23.14 at 12:18 AM EDT by (@salromano)
Definitive Edition of Tomb Raider hits next-gen next week.

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition

The PlayStation 4 version of Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition will run at 60 frames per second, producer Scott Amos confirmed in a GamesRadar live stream today.

Earlier this week, it was reported the game would run at 30 frames per second on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. Amos confirmed this is not the case, and that the PlayStation 4 version, at least, is running at 60 frames.

“Uh, no, I mean, you’re seeing it right here,” Amos said. “So, there definitely, you know, one of the things that people had asked, they had heard various quotes, actually heard some misquotes, our goal from the beginning was always to be 1080p gameplay at 30 frames per second minimum.

“Some people have taken that and misconstrued like, ‘Oh, it’s locked to 30!” Actually, no, it’s literally, the game was always from the beginning, our absolute requirement was gameplay at 1080p and minimum 30 frames per second. And anything past that was gravy. That’s the kind of game we are, the kind of world we are, and as you’re sitting here looking at it, like we said on the PS4, this is running at 60.”

Amos didn’t mention the Xbox One version. But according to a Rocket Chainsaw source, the game is running at 30 frames average on Microsoft’s console. The author of the article, also known as NeoGAF admin EatChildren, claims the information comes from “verified sources” at Square Enix.

“Both [versions] feature unlocked framerates, meaning framerate fluctuates between higher and lower values,” the site’s report reads. “The Xbox One build can technically reach around 45 fps, though this performance is generally only achieved during the most empty, simplest environments. For most of your play, and during action scenes, the Xbox One build will sit on around 30 fps.”

It continued, “On the other hand, the PlayStation 4 build will attempt to hit 60 fps as often as possible, and does a pretty good job of doing so, but does have slight dips under 60 fps during certain scenarios.”

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition is due out next Tuesday, January 28.

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  • Kougeru

    Another testament to price-to-performance value of XBO and PS4. So depressing that people still think XBO is a good “value”. This will only get worse as time goes by and devs stretch out the power more. That extra 25% power the PS4 has will go so much further.

    • icecoffemix

      Fun fact:

      60FPS is 200% of 30FPS

      1080P has 2,073,600 pixel
      720P has 921,600 pixel
      720P game has less pixel than the pixel difference between 1080P and 720P. Let that sink for a bit.

      25% is underestimating it by, well, quite a lot. :P

      • Budgiecat

        And then wut happens when we all get teh 4K TV’s??

        • icecoffemix


  • Six

    Embarrassing, and this shit is only going to get worse. I love my Xbox 360, but I am quickly running out of reasons to support the brand.

  • MrRobbyM


  • りんごタルト@エスカのアトリエ

    Playing this thing on PC if you’re worried about frame rates and resolutions.

    • Six

      PC being superior is a given. That stuff isn’t fun to argue about. :P

      • りんごタルト@エスカのアトリエ

        Yeah. But I shouldn’t care about frame rates and resolutions on consoles. What I care about consoles are the games, not how these games look like.

        • Gariya


        • DesmaX

          Well, 60fps is faaaar better than 30. So I worry about that at least

          • Six

            This right here. I’m not big on trumpeting resolutions, but framerate is always important.

        • icecoffemix

          Yeah! Now give me TR on NES, SE you monster!!!1

          What? It’s all about game right? And you can’t possibly have good games with good technicality on console, nope.

          • りんごタルト@エスカのアトリエ

            I bet you hate Tetris.

            • icecoffemix

              Yes, but I LOVE Tank 1990.

    • icecoffemix

      At the same fidelity and FPS as PS4? With $400?

  • Wolf Star

    Since I don’t own the game and plus everyone knows what Ps4 can do. I choose Ps4 over Xbone anytime. Imagine playing Final Fantasy XV on Ps4 :3 oh boy it will be amazing ^__^

    • ayb_91

      Please pal, don’t mention FFXV cuz I go crazy when I read such a great game that has not been given a release dat yet. :'(

      However, I agree with every word you said. ^_^

      • Wolf Star

        Sorry, everytime someone mentiones Final Fantasy 13-3, 10 HD or FF14(Ps4) I always think of XV instead. I wish it would have a release date :/
        FF 13-3 (February 11,2014)
        FF 10 HD (March 18,2014)
        FF 14 (PS4) (April 2014)
        FF XV (TBA)

        • ayb_91

          Lol. No worries friend. Thanks for the heads up though.

          • Wolf Star

            Your welcome ^^ and yeah I’m waiting for 15 for god how long it is.. While 13 series (will end) and 14 (reboot) PS4 ver and 10 HD have a release date and I’m thinking about it.. 13 series is “meh” to me. 14 is MMO that I tired to get into but I couldn’t because of the payment issue. I never played 10 but I saw the trailer and people have said it’s a Spoiler.. I don’t know what they are talking about..

            • ayb_91

              From my perspective, FFX is the best FF I have ever played. About those trailers of FFX, they indeed contain tons of spoilers. So, avoid them.

              Did you wonder why FFX | X-2 outsold FFXIII-3 in a week from its release date in Japan? Yup because it is magnificent. Try it if you want to experience such a great game. However, X-2 was a big disappointment to the fans including me, but again the battle system is good and the overall of the game is good.

              • Wolf Star

                Alright, I only saw 1 trailer and in the comments people were pointing out about way to many spoilers in that trailer and I watched it and I never noticed a thing. Well that makes perfect sense :) because I’ve played FF13-3 demo yesterday and to be honest.. It felt kind of the same as the last 13 games. I’m going for FF10 HD for Ps Vita and maybe PS3 since people love 10 so much ^^. I can’t believe I never played them :(

                • ayb_91

                  Lol. Good choice friend and don’t worry about missing such a great game because there is someone who didn’t play FF7 who is me. :( I can’t play it now though. It is way too old. >_<

  • bloodiOS

    If I have a PS4, I would happily buy this game again at $60.

    • GhostNomad

      I’m tempted since I bought but never played the original release on PS3. I gave the game to my best friend and he had plenty of good things to say about it (and a few bad ones, but a good overall experience). I’m not entirely sure I’m $60 tempted though >.> Maybe down to $40 or at least on sale.

      Definitely wouldn’t buy it on day 1 though. Wanna hear what people have to say about its performance.

      • bloodiOS

        Seeing Lara dying at 1080p and 60fps will definitely be worth it, I tell you. Even on the 7th-gen version, I just couldn’t stop myself from intentionally letting Lara die. It’s just so… pleasurable…

        • GhostNomad

          That sounds weird.

          But I suppose I have no room to judge. I had several playthroughs of RE4 where I let almost everything with a unique kill animation get me just so I could watch Leon get thrown, shot, stabbed, have his neck broken, get his face melted, fall to his death, get drowned, lose his head in several ways…. And then I went out and bought a GameCube just so I can see it all over again with slightly prettier graphics >.>

          • bloodiOS

            Pretty much the same case here. The developers definitely paid some serious attention to the death scenes and animations. You can just feel how much efforts they’ve poured into those. As the result, they’re all very interesting and rather refreshing to view. Definitely more enjoyable in comparison to other cheapo death animations in other games.

            • GhostNomad

              Stop it. You’re making me want to buy the game :P

              I appreciate death animations, so long as they’re not too long and unnecessary on the off chance it happens at a really annoying part so I end up watching the same death several times in a row and get frustrated because I’m trying to get past it.

        • Gariya

          So you have a ryona fetish, huh?

          • bloodiOS

            I simply appreciate well-spent efforts.

  • Elvick

    I’m glad that developers aren’t forcing parity.

    It honestly surprises me.

    This makes me want this version even more than I already did. But there’s soooo much coming in February and March that I don’t think I can get it right away.

  • Syltique

    If this gets more people interested in the game, then good. It was skipped by way too many people. It’s a far better game than any of the Uncharted games, or The Last of Us in my opinion.

    I’m sure it’ll be good on either system, as I loved the game on PS3.

    But yeah, I’ll be getting this on PS4 no doubt.

    • Six

      Nice to see more people who enjoyed Tomb Raider. I’ve played through it twice on 360, and it’ll be a definite pickup when I get a PS4.

    • bloodiOS

      I definitely enjoyed it a whole a lot more than any other Uncharted game I’ve played. That said, I think The Last of Us is the better game though, but at the same time, I just don’t feel that it should be compared with Tomb Raider.

      • GhostNomad

        I’m inclined to agree with this. Uncharted had its fun aspect, and while I didn’t play TR for too long (torrented and played the PC version for a few hours since my PS3 copy was going to arrive a couple of days late), I did find TR to be a lot of fun when you were running around and exploring. Hell, I avoided the story as soon as they let me roam around and spent a good hour or so browsing through a relatively small area.

        And I do agree that TLoU is an entirely different kind of game so comparing it to TR is like the whole apples to oranges deal.

    • Elvick

      Well, opinions.

      I loved Tomb Raider. One of the best games of last year, but after playing The Last of Us realized how much better Tomb Raider could have been. Especially in terms of “survival”. It didn’t really feel like much of a “survival” after your first kill. Just an action game.

      I do think the platforming was better than Uncharted though, and I liked the more ‘open’ness of it. Hopefully the next Uncharted takes a few queues from it.

      The next TR shouldn’t be about survival and is free from setting up the origins so it’ll be interesting to see where they improve things.

      • Syltique

        Yeah, I want more in depth tombs as well. The sequel has a massive amount of potential to improve on what they’ve started.

        • Sevyne

          That was probably the one thing I felt TR lacked a bit in. The actual tombs were short and too few. I kind of understood why (was more of a focus on the origin story, Lara, and the island itself), but I really wanted some cool puzzle tombs.

          That said, I absolutely loved the almost Metroid styled exploration and upgrading in the game. Throw in some kick ass tombs in the sequel and it should be an incredible experience.

    • oOqUiS

      OOOO NO you didn’t……..!!

    • DarthNemesis

      Far better than Uncharted and TLoU is a ridiculous statement when the game copied Uncharted for all the parts that made it good.
      The game is the best TR game but the story was no better and sucked compared to TLoU and the set pieces, characters, and shooting mechanics were inferior to both.
      You can not even explain why you think it is better.Just making a blanket statement because the other games are popular.

      • Syltique

        I’ve written about it at length before. I don’t know why my opinion is so threatening to you.

        Do you like The Last of Us more? Good for you. That doesn’t bother me at all. I think Tomb Raider is significantly better though. I sold The Last of Us, and Tomb Raider I’m going to buy twice. It has far better platforming, better combat, better xp upgrades, way better puzzles, and it’s a gorgeous game. I really liked the main character a lot more. I don’t think the story in TR is exceptional, but it was good enough for me, and it had a couple standout moments I liked, like the blood pit, the wind temple, and the surprise enemies living on the island near the end. Personally, I enjoyed that more than fungus zombies.

      • Sevyne

        Huh? I’ll never figure out how anyone can say it copied Uncharted. I’ve played every Uncharted and this TR game and they are nothing alike. Btw I did enjoy TR far more than Uncharted. That is my personal opinion, and yours may be different. That’s why they are opinions. Also note that I do like Uncharted as well. TLOU is a damn fine one too, but guess what? I enjoyed TR more as a game.

        Are people not allowed to have different tastes to your own without being insulted by you? Nope, must be making blanket statements because they enjoyed one game more than the others. Come on man…

        • McPoo

          I agree that they’re not very similar, although I do think Tomb Raider took some inspiration from Uncharted.

          • Articuno76

            TR2013 is more Uncharted than it is Tomb Raider. It’s so divergent from the games that came before it that comparisons are going to be inevitable; if there is any one game you are going to compare it to then Uncharted is the one.

      • Charlie

        I personally didn’t like Uncharted for one reason: the combat.

  • sunK1D

    I think variable fps is a mistake. Lock it at 30 or 60 but PLEASE don’t make it variable. It’s easy to notice the fluctuations from 30 to 60 but if you lock it at 30 or 60 then there’s no breaking the immersion.

    • Anime10121

      Agreed wholeheartedly. I’d rather have a stable 30 FPS, which NEITHER console provides, over a fluctuating one that “can” reach 60 FPS. Sudden frame rate drops are far more noticeable and worse to me than a stable locked 30…

      • $18114340

        If the game is perfectly playable at 30 then I don’t really have a problem. It’s when games that should run at 60 for gameplay reasons (e.g. input latency or general unresponsiveness due to a lower frame rate than the game was originally designed to respond to) are toned down to run at 30 on less-capable hardware that I think the comparisons between versions say anything.

        If Tomb Raider is just as playable and responsive at a constant 30fps than it is at a stable 60fps then I think the rest is just nit-picking. In this case I don’t see the performance difference between the two consoles being any more important than it was between the PS2 (the weakest sixth-generation console, but also the most popular) and the Xbox, for example — nobody seemed to mind very much that the PS2 versions of most multiplatform games were almost unilaterally graphically inferior often to the point of actually affecting gameplay.

        If people can get past that, they can get past a fps difference in a game that was originally designed to run at 30fos in the first place. I feel like the entire performance difference between the PS4 and Xbox One is far less important than people make it out to be.

  • Kurisu Makise

    PS4 purchase reconfirmed. Nice work Square Enix xD

  • TetsuyaHikari

    I’m actually kind of amazed how you guys can go from talking about Tomb Raider one minute to bringing up a console war, then throwing in “master race”, on top of other totally unrelated subjects…

    Let’s dial it back and try to keep it on topic. Too many topics getting locked over stupid shit that doesn’t even belong in the Free Forum.

    • Elvick

      The irony.

      • McPoo

        Is it delicious?

      • Pyrofrost

        Tell me about it. Ugh :/
        It’s so thick, it’s nauseating.

  • tokyobassist

    Granted the only thing 60fps would really affect is the multiplayer, it’s still nice to have a higher framerate. I’ll probably pick this up now at a price drop. Still miss Lara old face though.

  • Peacenutman

    Tomb Raider is really good game, but there are so many things that irks me to prevent it from being GOTY 2013 for me.

    First of all Lara herself, just like Far Cry 3, it really breaks the immersion for me when some college girl who never fired a gun before or any combat experience suddenly can take on an army of ruthless raiders or an horde of undead samurai is just too farfetched for me, I know it’s just a game but this game is just above my suspension of belief. Every time I finished watching a cutscene I would roll my eyes and muttering “yah right” numerous time.

    The story is interesting at least but all the characters are so bland and stereotypical that I feel no attachments whatsoever. You are seperated from them the whole time, and only engage some small chat at campfire. I feel like those characters could be more engaging other than just giving orders “go to this destination” or “blow that up” over the radio. When some of them died, I feel no sadness whatsoever.

    I know many people love to compare this with Uncharted but I still feel Uncharted is a superior game.

    Many of the set pieces moments in Tomb Raider are too familiar with Uncharted, which can be a good or bad thing depends on what you think.

    The only thing TR did better is the gameplay mechanic, which you can upgrade weapons, learn new skills, and the game is semi-open world if you like open-ended map game. There are no tombs, but rather caves, so somewhat a bit disappointing.

    Everything else, story, character development, visuals, audio, voice acting are just better on Uncharted.

    Feel free to agree or disagree.

    • McPoo


      • Flaviu Draghis

        I agree completely with you, what i found more hilarious is when she got her hands on a gun she transformed into the terminator, there was no stopping her, which really broke the immersion of the game for me

    • Budgiecat

      But it worked in RED DAWN!

  • Zero

    Can we please stop posting junk in the comments. It seems to get really bad in articles like this, with console comparisons, etc.

    It’s fine to compare the consoles. Posting troll like, or flame like responses is not. We frown heavily upon that, and frankly… it gets old.

    I’d really appreciate it if we can reduce those type of comments greatly from here on out. Thanks.

    • $18114340

      When there’s an article that compares the performance of the same game across two consoles, comparisons are inevitable — that’s the entire point of the article in the first place.

      I’d suggest just closing comments completely on these types of articles from now on.

      • Anime10121

        Legitimate discussion can be had when comparing consoles, even when comparing differences said consoles bring. I’m sure what Zero is talking about is the straight “MY CONSOLE IS BUTTER DEN URS” type posts, or “DAS Y U DONT GO DUDEBROBOX” stuff.

        Its ok to like/prefer one brand over the other, but some folks take that preference FAR too heavily. Brand loyalty is one thing, but blind fanboyness is another…

        • $18114340

          Some of the comments that were removed from this discussion apparently stemmed from a thread that I started that I insist was perfectly innocent. A gif was posted, but I didn’t think of it as being any more than light-hearted facetiousness. This isn’t to speak for all of the comments in this article, though. But I also don’t think that removing comment threads outright without a proper explanation is constructive enough. The worst comments in the thread that I am thinking of are from repeat offenders — the “folks that take that preference far too heavily” aren’t changing their behavior because they aren’t seeing any reason to.

          • Anime10121

            But even then, a tongue in cheek joke is just that, a JOKE, it should not hurt peoples feelings (some jokes can, but a joke about a console :/ ). Like I said, they’re just taking console “loyalty” a bit too far. I do however think that just deleting comments outright IS constructive. A comment deletion should be seen as a hint that you’re taking things too far, and should take it as a warning, now the repeat offenders I vote team ban…

            • Pyrofrost

              And what about the commenter who is generally an instigator or in the middle of a shitstorm; but comes into this thread, puts on a bandana and cape, and starts trying to play mini-mod?

              WHAT SAY YOU!!!!!!!! Anime10121!!!!!!!!!!

              • Anime10121

                I’m not gonna go there with you, so I’m just gonna say ok.

                • Pyrofrost

                  Mmkay, fair enough. You seemed to have an opinion on repeat offenders and overzealous fanboys, so I figured I would also ask your opinion on that as well.

                  • Anime10121

                    Pointing out specific people just makes things more hostile, thats a job for the mods, and I (thankfully) am not one. Takes far too much effort/work to moderate an online community.

                    • Pyrofrost

                      Yeah, that’s why I didn’t bother pointing a finger at anyone. I simply wanted your opinion on it since your opinion on other things were so firm, and I agree with you for the most part.

                      Anywho, thanks for your input Anime10121. It is truly appreciated and you have satisfied my curiosity.

            • $18114340

              I received no indication that the comment thread had been deleted; it was only conjecture on my part that it had been considering the direction it had been taking the last time I saw it and the fact that it is no longer a part of the discussion here. I am willing to wager that nobody else would really know that the comments were deleted unless they specifically looked to see. That’s probably the fault of the Disqus system itself, but nevertheless I don’t think the repeat offenders are even getting any indication that they’re doing anything wrong, and that is my issue here.

      • Zero

        It’s fine to compare the consoles. I said that above. We just ask that the comparison remain civil and worthwhile.

        I’ll explain a bit about what I mean when I say worthwhile. All of this is covered in the guidelines.

        We frown upon the troll, fanboy, and flame comments. We don’t consider those comments worthwhile, since they don’t generate any form of civil discussion. They do generate a discussion, no doubt… Just not the type of discussion we want to see.

        It’s not just us. This is also for the good of our community. Most people do not want to post or take part in such discussions. The fanboy/troll/flame ones.

        @Anime10121:disqus posted some examples of comments we are now removing.

        I used to just edit comments with a warning, but the amount of comments like this have increased lately. Which kinda bums me out.

        Anyways, I don’t have the time to edit every single reply with a warning, not to mention how annoying and old it gets. When I take the time to post warnings, and they are seemingly ignored.

        I’m a pretty laid back person, but even I start to get a bit frustrated…

        This is something I’ve discussed with Sal. We posted about it in the open forum a few weeks ago — How we planned to keep an eye out for comments like that and remove them. Mostly because of how common they were starting to become.

        Also, some of the replies get deleted along with the bad comments.

        Thanks for the reply, and thanks for understanding. – Zero

    • Morino*Basa

      Were such comments removed from this discussion? Nothing I see here is that bad.

      • Zero

        Yes. They have been removed.

  • new_tradition

    I still kind of wanna get it for the PS3 since it’s pretty cheap, but I could probably wait until I get a PS4 to play it too. Hrmm…

  • Santashi

    I love the expression ‘it’s all gravy’.

    /random thought