The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC aiming for mid-2014
posted on 12.11.13 at 09:38 PM EDT by (@salromano)
PC version of First Chapter planned for early 2014.

The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Second Chapter is aiming for launch in mid-2014, publisher XSEED Games said in a Facebook post.

The long-awaited sequel is planned for PSP via digital download and PC via Steam. The First Chapter, originally launched in North America on PSP in 2011, is also coming to PC via Steam this winter. In the same Facebook post, XSEED clarified an early 2014 release for this version.

Thanks, NeoGAF.

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  • Budgiecat

    I remember when the dramatic zoom in to eye thing was done in Mass Effect 3 Citadel DLC

  • bloodiOS

    Seriously, hurry up and localize the PS3 version of both games too, please…

    • マッシュー

      I think the trophy debacle is going to prevent them from being able to, iirc.

      • bloodiOS

        Wait, how? Elaborate on that a bit.

        • マッシュー

          American PS3 games require trophies to come onto the market, while Japan doesn’t need to and iirc the Japanese release had no trophies. So it’s just more problems they have to face. They’d have to make trophies specifically the US version and stuff. I wish I had the thread that people discussed this in, but that’s what I remember and just it would be easier to release on PC instead.

          • bloodiOS

            Huh… that’s interesting because back in September, they said that they were looking into localizing it, but I guess much has changed after three months.

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

              That’s probably because their initial thought was, “Alright! We’ll just localize these!”, then they realized the JP release didn’t have trophies (which is common with PSP HD remaster titles), then backed out of the idea.

            • マッシュー

              I mean they were looking into it but SCEA’s policies will make it tougher. We’ll have to see what happens.

              • bloodiOS

                Tch… the SCEA dumbasses really need to clear their heads. It makes no sense to require trophies for the PS3 version when save data is transferable from PSP to PS3, very exploitable.

          • Kevadu

            It’s worse than that, actually. It’s not just that the game didn’t have trophies, PSP Remasters fundamentally don’t know anything about trophies. It’s essentially a port of the PSP environment to the PS3, just with higher-res assets. But as far as the game logic is concerned it’s still running on a PSP, and PSPs don’t know anything about trophies.

            I wouldn’t say that adding trophy support is impossible, but it would be a *lot* of work. For a niche game that probably isn’t going to sell much…yeah, not going to happen.

            • マッシュー

              Thanks for the expanded information. Yeah, that’s why they’re doing PC releases since it’s cheaper and easier to target, I guess.

          • PrinceHeir

            wait so the JPN PS3 release didn’t have trophies?

            it’s pretty stupid that we’re gonna missed a game just because of some shitty ass trophy system.

            then again i’m already taking JPN classes, so i won’t have to worry about this in the coming years of next gen.

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

              Nope. Since it was just a HD port of the PSP game that also didn’t have trophies, they didn’t bother to add any. This is common for PSP to PS3 HD ports though.

              In fact, the only one I can think of off the top of my head that started on PSP, then got an HD port and was given trophies was Peace Walker.

              • PrinceHeir

                damn that suck balls.

                btw i want to ask you a unrelated question, but i’ll wait on the open forum since i also want to hear other people regarding this issue.

                • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

                  Sure thing.

  • Alkhan

    At this rate we’ll be caught up to where the games are now by…2019?

    Of course we’d still be behind since apparently this has become an annual series.

    I just want Ys 8…

    • マッシュー

      One of the main reasons I began to study Japanese lol. It’s going to take longer than 2019. We still have Third Chapter, Zero, Ao, Flash, and Flash 2 is coming next year for JP. :x

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

      >2019

      That’s being too optimistic.

    • http://www.cubiz.tk/ Auragar

      More like 2040. And by then there would be a crap load more of them. And we’d all be considerably old. 40s and older.

      • マッシュー

        Flash 2 coming next year just proves that. They’re releasing stuff every year and we’re like 2 years a game.. We will never be caught up until the series is long dead orz

        • http://www.cubiz.tk/ Auragar

          2? It is 3. But yeah until the series dies we will not catch up.

          • マッシュー

            Yes, 2. 閃の軌跡 part 2 is coming next year.

    • Kevadu

      They’re making new games faster than anyone is localizing them, so “at this rate” we’ll never be caught up.

      • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

        >They’re making new games faster than anyone is localizing them

        You make it seem as if that’s something difficult to accomplish.

        • LordKaiser

          Well you know how long it’s their script right?

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

            Long enough to take 5+ years to translate?

            Look, I played SC years ago on PC. I know it has the most dialogue out of all three chapters. You still shouldn’t take this long to translate a damn game, I don’t care who you are.

            It’s just absurd. There was a fan translation in process, but they dropped it because it was just taking entirely too long. I get that, but these are professionals. They get PAID to do this sort of thing.

            I’m sorry, but if my boss came up to me and said, “I need this 500 page book translated and I’m giving you a year to do it.”, I couldn’t just say, “Oh. Well, how about I just translate 100 pages every year, then I’ll give it to you?” There’s a thing called a ‘deadline’ and XSEED has pretty much just thrown that out the window.

            If they would have just put their resources into aiming for a window from the beginning (e.g. Winter 2010), then we wouldn’t be having this conversation about it right now. They would have got their job done, everyone would have been paid, and the fans would have been happy. No, instead… They bit off more than they could chew and they’ve just been sitting around with their thumbs up their asses while making a Facebook post here and there every few months to let people know they are still working on it. Well, la-dee-fucking-da.

            I know XSEED is a small company by comparison to say… Square-Enix, but damn, man. Don’t take up a project if you’re not willing to put in the work to complete it in a reasonable amount of time. We’ve had fucking CITIES built in the time they have taken to translate the dialogue for this GAME.

            Just think about that for a minute.

            • Articuno76

              The alternative is to shut down localisation of other games to focus on one game and get it out ASAP; one game that is niche and a digital only release for a platform that is all but dead.

              It doesn’t really make sense to bank their fortunes on it that way.

              What they could have done was released the games episodically. The games are already broken up into chapters anyway (they even have a save prompt between chapters). I’ve been saying for a while that the best chance of getting the games out in a timely way would be the episodic approach.

              Though yeah…it is kind of hilarious that in the time between these releases you could have learnt Japanese to the level of proficiency needed to play them in their native language…

          • Pyrofrost

            The script’s size wasn’t the only issue. There was also the fact that FC sold like shit. So much so, that XSeed completely put SC on the back-burner.

            They were basically at the point of just hitting SC little by little between projects that were far more secure for them. If anything, completion of SC is more about them keeping a promise to the fans than purely a profit motive.

      • Alkhan

        I wish Falcom could get their games localized by Aksys instead of XSEED. I know XSEED is cool and all but they always take forever with their localizations due to their short staff.

        If it were Aksys they’d just slap an English script on it say fuck vocal translations like they did with Sorcery Saga. People bitch about dubs anyway(no matter how good they are) so why not? I wouldn’t mind English text only.

        Another problem is the games are way too text heavy with irrelevant dialogue. I don’t know how many times I’ve played Trails in the Sky and noticed conversations that go on way longer than necessary.

        • DesmaX

          ?

          Seriously, Trails in the Sky only has battle dub, if anything. And even games like Sen aren’t fully voiced anyway. That’s the least of their problem.

          And, hey, that’s Trails for you. You can’t have millions of characters without being filled with pointless dialogue

          I know someone gonna be mad at me, but hey

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

          Aksys would be better in my opinion anyway simply because I lost respect for XSEED when they basically took the fan translation of Oath in Felghana for PC and used it as a base, then released it as their own without giving a single penny to NightWolve (the man originally behind the translation). Granted, he didn’t give it to XSEED to begin with… A friend of his screwed him over since he had access to his computer. He sent the documents to XSEED, claimed it as his own, and only he was given royalties while XSEED refuses to give the real person behind the project any money for it.

          So yeah, XSEED used to be pretty cool, but ever since they did that, I’ve had a “fuck them” sort of mentality towards them, honestly.

          • LordKaiser

            It’s Deuce work to begin with. Xseed don’t need Nightwolve hacking tools or his work. They only needed the script.

            This whole drama started when Nightwolve was having financial trouble and decided to give Betas of Felghana translation patch in exchange of donations and that was a very risky move because rule #1 of the internet- you don’t trust in ANYONE ONLINE. He should had expected his work to be leaked and man he was and still is angry about the whole issue.

            Sadly even if he did the most effort by hacking it is of no value to Xseed but only Deuce translation.

            It’s was not only Nightwolve work but a Deuce + Nightwolve collaboration.

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

              Deuce did have a hand in the work, yes, but he had no right to take it upon himself to simply bring it to XSEED behind NightWolve’s back the way he did. He royally screwed him and XSEED is just as guilty for not doing the right thing here.

              • LordKaiser

                Depends if Deuce already said something before. But yes if Deuce got paid for the script then it would be ethical to give Nightwolve some money at least half for dumping the script.

                But I don’t see why this is Xseed fault. It’s a problem between Nightwolve and Deuce.

                • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

                  I’d say XSEED is just as responsible for accepting the script as their own and not providing NightWolve with any compensation. If I was him, I’d be pissed too.

                  He’s getting spitroasted by his friend and the company.

                  • LordKaiser

                    Well Nightwolve extracted the scrip in Japanese. That script belongs to Nihon Falcom, Deuce translated it. Explain to me how that translation belong to NW. Even if the script belonged to the one who extracted when Deuce translated it then it stopped to be the original.

                    • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

                      Okay. Let me flip this around for you then. Explain to me how someone else’s work belongs to XSEED and they are allowed to make money off of it?

                    • LordKaiser

                      Because they payed for it

                    • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

                      Lol. They’re breaching ethical grounds, man. It would be no different than an official company using fansubs for a localized anime and slapping their name on it, and making money off of it.

                      Sure, they have rights to the anime to redistribute it and fansubbing is generally a non-profit organization, but it’s still wrong for them to do this.

                    • LordKaiser

                      They bought a modified script from Deuce that belongs to Deuce. He could had claimed that he took it from reading the script in game as opposed as extracted by NW.

                    • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

                      Yeah, they bought it without giving both parties involved the proper compensation. You can slice it any way you want, man, but NW got the shaft and you know it as well as I do. Yes, Deuce screwed him over, but since XSEED isn’t willing to even listen to NW’s claim, they’re simply ignoring him and not even acknowledging his involvement with the project.

                      Well, that’s the last I heard on the matter. He was going to try and get a settlement, but it wasn’t even brought to the table. I doubt he’d take them to court since it would cost him an arm and a leg.

                      Not only that, but the script doesn’t originally belong to him anyway since it’s Nihon Falcom’s property, but, once again… I still think he’s getting screwed here, not only by Deuce, but by XSEED for not acknowledging his part in all of this.

                    • LordKaiser

                      Well It seems there’s more history about it here:

                      http://seldane.proboards.com/thread/6552/boycott-xseed?page=2

                      I hope Tom don’t lose his job over this. He’s the only guy pushing for Falcom games. Anyway I’m still going to support XEED as long as Falcom games keep coming.

                      NW suffered the back-stab of Judas and I understand why Deuce did it.

                    • Pyrofrost

                      I’m sure Tom will be fine.
                      Companies have a legal team to work these sorts of issues out, because things like this arise all the time. Things like people’s work being supposedly stolen and whatnot.

                      NW isn’t really doing himself any favors by publicly slandering people over the internet though. It definitely won’t help him in the courtroom, Not to mention he would need to supply indisputable evidence in his own favor.

                      Personally, I like Tom. He is a cool, down to earth guy, and I’m happy with the work he is doing at XSeed. He also knows good PR and stays in touch with his audience. If anything, it is largely because of him that XSeed has amassed the following the company has. So again, I’d say Tom’s position at XSeed is pretty secure. He is too much of an asset for them to just let go of.

                      Personally, I will continue to support XSeed and Tom’s work at XSeed.

                    • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

                      Deuce was kind of a tool for as long as I can remember, honestly. I used to post and lurk on that forum yeeeeeeeeeears ago. Nobody really seemed to like Deuce though since he’s the kind of guy that didn’t really seem to have any loyalty towards anyone.

                      Well, what I mean is… He was always looking out for himself and his own interest. I guess you could say that him turning against NW was the nail in the coffin since he was willing to throw NW under the bus just to make a quick buck. NW has turned into a rather bitter individual over all this and a lot of people just see him as a raving lunatic for blowing this all out of proportion.

                      Honestly though… I think he was just so tired of Deuce’s shit that this is the straw that finally broke the camel’s back. I would have blown up too had he done this shit to me, especially since he already had a rap sheet as long as my arm for all of the bullshit he had already done.

                      You know he actually confronted NW about burning the translation works to CDs, making cover art for them, and selling them on ebay even AFTER NW told him not to? This is the kind of “deucebag” he is. He doesn’t seem to understand the concept of ‘collaboration’ and completely ignores whatever NW tells him because he feels more entitled to the work, allowing him to do whatever he wants with it.

                      There are always two sides to every story, but I’ve never agreed with whatever Deuce brought to the table since there was always an ulterior motive behind his actions and with what he did to NW regarding this, this just further proved to me what his true colors are. I don’t think Tom will lose his job over this since it’s not really in the spotlight.

                      If this was something being dredged up over and over again on the official XSEED forum, Facebook page, Twitter, etc. where it put him in hot water all the time, then that would be one thing… But there just aren’t enough people that care about it to focus on it, honestly.

                    • LordKaiser

                      Well Imagine if you spend time translating something and then your partner says that it won’t be used at all. My question is did Deuce really did all behind his back or Deuce mentioned his intention and was said No to it?

                      And yes that coin is not even a coin anymore with so many sides.

        • Kevadu

          Come on now, Xseed is doing these games because nobody else wanted to. They weren’t exactly new when Xseed got the contract. Lot’s of other companies passed on it. And saying that Aksys would do it faster is baseless, because Aksys has *never* translated a game with a script this size. Or even close, really. That’s the number one hold up…it’s a massive amount of text.

          And your comment about voice is complete nonsense. There’s no vocal track in the first place (unless you’re counting battle grunts). Not in the games Xseed is working on, anyway (later games have voice but that’s not really relevant here).

  • Elvick

    Really wish they’d do a kickstarter for limited retail release.

    Will buy it in support (and to play it obviously), despite not being too happy about digital. Lots of work went into this and to not support it isn’t an option for me, despite my hate of digital.

  • GODDUKEMONEXA

    omg 7 years after japanese launch

    • マッシュー

      America is doomed.

  • $83030187

    I still need to finish the first one.

    I got a few hours into it and then I just stopped for some reason. I think it might have been because I found out it had a cliff-hanger ending and there was a good chance the sequel would never come over…

    Shit. Well, there goes that excuse.

  • Pyrofrost

    So glad the localization of this game is finally seeing the light. I’m sure it is the last that we will see here, but it’s nice that this project has been seen through to the end.

    Now if Falcom can go ahead and give us a date for Ao no Kiseki Evolution and announce the YS: V remake. Then we can move on to the sequel of YS: Seven and Sen no Kiseki ^_^

  • LordKaiser

    Before you continue to talk about Xseed being slow etc. please do research and see how many people work for Xseed. You’ll see that they’re very small compared to bigger publishers.

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

      I’m well aware of their staff. I still don’t think they should have taken 5+ years to translate a game. Man, we used to live in an age of gaming where games like Out of This World was created by ONE man. ONE.

      Now we can pretty much get a team of trained monkeys to translate a game before professionals do. Seriously… 5+ years, small staff or not, that’s just ridiculous.

      • Kevadu

        Where the hell are you getting this “5+ years” number? It hasn’t even been 5 years since Xseed first struck a deal with Falcom (May 2010 in case you’re curious), and it *certainly* hasn’t been 5 years since they started working on SC…

        • Pyrofrost

          And that is why I just ignore people when they talk shit about XSeed concerning the Kiseki games.

          Tom, Floofy, and XSeed executives have continued to explain the situation all over the internet repeatedly, and it does no good..

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

            It’s called ‘damage control’, man. Are you new to how PR works or something? You think they’d really come out with the truth to people who have already been waiting THIS long for the game?

            Oh wow. How naive are you? Lol. If I was part of a company like that, I’d start making up excuses and shit for our incompetence too.

            Better to save face and have the people think you’re still competent than to have them turn their backs on you and lose all that potential profit.

            • Pyrofrost

              What I will do is simply step away, because I realize you’re only in this thread to argue. Which is fine, if that’s what you want to do. I personally don’t want to bother rehashing an argument that that has been going on for over two years. No resolution will be reached, so it’s completely pointless.

              Just know that I disagree

              • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

                See my post above. I’m certainly not here to argue… More like amused that so many people seem to eat the food that is being fed to them without checking to see if it’s poisoned first.

                This isn’t the first (nor last) time something like this has happened.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

          It’s funny how people are so quick to believe everything they hear, just because it comes from a higher up. They struck a deal with them in May 2010 as far as you know of because that’s what XSEED told you.

          I mean, hey… It’s not as if a company has ever lied to save their own ass before or anything, right? They have to keep up appearances, after all. I’d be curious to know when they ACTUALLY started working on the project, rather than when they officially claimed to be doing so.

          • Kevadu

            Yes, you’re right, the numbers you pull out of your ass are so much more reliable than official statements. Everyone is lying to you so it’s better to just make shit up. Quick, fetch me the aluminum foil so I can fashion a helmet!

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

              Considering those “official statements” can have whatever numbers they want on them, yep. What makes them so official actually? Who it comes from or what is actually stated?

              I’m just over here laughing because I remember talking with a friend of mine that used to actually work in the QA department for XSEED (now works for Atlus since he relocated a couple of years ago though) that specifically stated that SC was being discussed around the office, even as early as the Wild Arms XF days. There were complications arising from reaching an agreement with Nihon Falcom, but the project was already on the table and had begun a testing phase since the JP version had already been out for half a year or so, I think.

              I also have a buddy in Aksys Games that has shared quite a few stories with me, but nothing really mind breaking, honestly. More like what REALLY goes on behind closed doors, ya know? He can’t really disclose more sensitive material since you have to sign a NDA when you’re hired, but yeah… I’ll just put it this way. Don’t be so quick to believe everything you hear when you see the cogs of this gaming machine begin to turn and spit out an answer for you.

          • Ladius

            If you know for a fact they’ve “lied” about the timeframe of their licensing deals, then give us some tangible proof in order to show they worked for “5+” years on their translation (meaning they had a finalized deal and started the actual localization, which is different than talking about the prospect of localizing a game during a business meeting or an office break).

            Otherwise, asking people to doubt everyone directly involved in the localization just because you say so while basically treating them like liars without showing anything that proves them so makes little sense.

            There will always be situations that aren’t disclosed to the public, and that goes for any kind of industry, but that doesn’t mean people from the outside can use that general notion as a basis to make up assumptions.

            • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

              What kind of “tangible proof” could I even provide? Sure, I could supply you with screencaps of the conversation I had, but who is to say they won’t be doctored? Unfortunately, regardless of whatever proof I may provide you, there will always be a lingering feeling that what you’re reading is false because you believe something else.

              I’m certainly not telling you that everything they have said is a lie. That would be absurd. I’m just merely stating that you shouldn’t be so quick to believe everything you see or hear. Things aren’t always what they seem, especially when it comes to something as big as the gaming industry, movie industry, or music industry.

              Remember… You’re only allowed to see what they allow you to see. I can’t even tell you the amount of times our conversations were cut short because he had to stay at his office all night and even SLEEP there because of deadlines for projects. Now, if a CEO of a company came out to the public and stated they were making their employees sleep in their offices, on the floor, under desks, etc. just in order to meet a deadline, that wouldn’t go over too well, would it?

              The NDA does wonders.

  • BizarreJelly

    Better late than never guys.

    • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

      Is that what the FFXV crowd is telling themselves while they wait?

      • BizarreJelly

        Not so much since it got revived as XV, when it was still versus XIII however… Duke Fantasy Forever :P

        At least it’s not The Last Guardian.

        • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

          You’re right. It’s worse. XV was announced way sooner than The Last Guardian. Sure, at least we SOMEWHAT have a timeframe on when XV is being released, but that’s just a lesser of the evils I suppose.

  • PrinceHeir

    i hope they localize the PS3 version too, but these type of games really fit well on handhelds, especially on Vita ^^

    then again i’m taking JPN classes, so hopefully i can improve and learn the language so i can actually understand these myself instead of relying to other 3rd party members to do it.

  • PrinceHeir

    also why hasn’t Xseed put the Gagharv trilogy on PSN?

    they already released it on PSP so why no digital version so i could play on Vita?

    i do hope someone picks up the Crossbell arc series.

    Zero no Kiseki Evolution and Ao no Kiseki Evolution looks amazing on Vita plus it has tons of improvements and voice as well!!!

    • Pyrofrost

      For your first question, XSeed only picked up the rights to publish the Sora no Kiseki Trilogy. They did not pick up the Dragon Slayer Duology, the Gagharv trilogy (which was published in the West by NamcoBandai), the Crossbell Arc Duology, or the Erebonia Arc

      For your second question. The PSP digital version of FC is playable on Vita, and SC will be as well.

  • Warboss Aohd

    Steam it is then.

  • http://www.psvitadirect.com/ Kurisu Makise

    Right I promised myself I’d pick up FC, so if not end of this month then January for sure. Anyone tried it on Vita, I just want to confirm it looks awesome on ye old OLED. I’m also debating if I should double dip FC for Steam and then get both variations of SC in 2014 or not. Booting into Windows for a title I can play elsewhere isn’t as appealing admittedly. I guess if I could play it natively on my mac that’d be the tipping point.

    • JuhRo

      I personally fully enjoy FC on the Vita. It’s not a game that really pushes for graphical greatness… but it sort of feels like Final Fantasy Tactics/Advanced.. in terms of graphics. The gameplay is awesome, though.. reminds me of when Final Fantasy was a new game for me.. and just figuring out how to work the system is part of the excitement.

      • http://www.psvitadirect.com/ Kurisu Makise

        Well FC is totally new for me so I’m looking forward to that new feel. Last time I had that was Persona 3 FES.

        • JuhRo

          Yeah! Persona 3 Portable was the first time I had that experience in a long time… I wish I could say Ni No Kuni did that.. but it felt like a weird pokemon/Tales hybrid…

          • http://www.psvitadirect.com/ Kurisu Makise

            That was my impression from the demo of Ni No Kuni as well but people swear by it, so I’m inclined to try the full game at some point.

            • JuhRo

              Still a super charming game.. and I was glad to support its release. It just needs fine tuning.. but I could travel that world map for days and not get tired of how beautiful it is… hence the avatar.