Square Enix forms Final Fantasy quality preservation group
posted on 10.17.13 at 06:51 PM EDT by (@salromano)
Tales, Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy producers discuss collaboration.

Square Enix has formed a “Final Fantasy Committee” to preserve the quality of future games in the series, according to a V-Jump report. 

The committee consists of Naoki Yoshida (Final Fantasy XIV director and producer), Hajime Tabata (Final Fantasy Type-0 director, Final Fantasy XV co-director), Motomu Toriyama (Final Fantasy XIII saga director), and Yoshinori Kitase (Final Fantasy XIII saga producer).

Tetsuya Nomura, who is directing Final Fantasy XV, seems to not be participating in the committee because “he is working in another time axis.”

The same issue of V-Jump contains a talk between Tales series producer Hideo Baba, Dragon Quest X producer Yosuke Saito, and Final Fantasy series producer Shinji Hashimoto, where the trio discuss a possible collaboration.

Hideo Baba (Tales, Namco Bandai): “If we can, we’ll certainly do it!”

Yosuke Saito (Dragon Quest X, Square Enix): “You’ll do it? We can start today.”

Baba: “Won’t it be [Akira] Toriyama’s first Tales?”

Saito: “If Toriyama is okay with it, then I’m okay with it. If we don’t break from the world view, I think Horii might also say it’s okay.”

Shinji Hashimoto (Final Fantasy, Square Enix): “What if [Tales‘] Kosuke Fujishima draws for Final Fantasy, and [Final Fantasy‘s] Tetsuya Nomura draws for Dragon Quest?”

Baba: “I think Fujishima would do it for us.”

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  • Alkhan

    Lol, Motomu Toriyama

    This won’t end well.

    • Lelouch Vi Britannia

      yeah but he wasn’t mentioning in the Dragon Quest, Tales, and Final Fantasy Collaboration. It was the other Toriyama in regards to the Collaboration “Akira Toriyama”.

      • Samsara09

        Well,to the fans,there is only one Toriyama on Japan,sadly

        • Lelouch Vi Britannia

          Akira Toriyama. Enough said there.

          • Samsara09

            the guy is godly.Dragon ball,one of the finest mangas around.

            • DarkLegacy

              True. Have you seen there new movie that was in March but not released yet?

      • http://twitter.com/AuroraXIII AuroraXIII

        He’s not referring to the collaboration.

        • Samsara09

          Just Toriyama’s presence on this comitee and his existence arouse the fans more than this awesome collaboration news.

    • EX+

      In all fairness, even though Toriyama screwed up royally, people like him know what needs to be fixed with FF the most. Because they made that screw up with their own hands.

  • Crossbones (Prodigy-X)

    It all sounded good except for “Motomu Toriyama (Final Fantasy XIII saga director), and Yoshinori Kitase (Final Fantasy XIII saga producer).” Part. Please God No!!!

    • Venik

      Yoshinori Kitase was also the director of FFVII and FFVIII.
      He doesn’t sound so bad.

  • syaznifaiq

    so SE finally acknowledge themselves that Final fantasy series turn to crap with FFXIII saga ? , good for them …

    • Lelouch Vi Britannia

      but about that Tales, FF,DQ Collaboration sounds awesome.

      • syaznifaiq

        yes, but don’t get your hope up, its probably just another mobile game

    • alexei

      gotta ask why the downvote?, seriously, this site of full of butt hurt fan boy that cannot accept somebody else opinion

      • syaznifaiq

        hahaha , dont worry, getting down vote by internet stranger don’t mean jack for me .. thanks for your support lol

      • bloodiOS

        Some faceless down-voters are not equivalent to the whole community of Gematsu. Don’t like something, go ahead and express your feelings about it, but take that insult somewhere else.

  • 罪罰

    Yoshinori Kitase (Final Fantasy XIII saga producer)

  • Sevyne

    A glimmer of hope was there for a split second…

    And then I saw Toriyama is involved and it was swept away.

  • Arcana Gear

    as long toryama dont put lighting on it thinking that it make the quality go up, i’m okay with it.

  • Lelouch Vi Britannia

    Cloud meets Lloyd Irving.
    Zach Fair Meets Stahn Aileron.

  • $30632660

    I was excited because of the headline and what the group is trying to do then I saw who was “in charge”, screw that.

  • PhoenixAutomatic~♪(๑ᴖ◡ᴖ๑)♪~

    I feel sad by seeing toriyama’s name there. I’m totally fine with Kitase but toriyama? NO.
    Anyways, the collaboration feels like something awesome might happen! :D

    Edit: Ito-san and Nomura should’ve been there. :(

  • Yuri Meitzen

    seriously i wouldn’t get my hopes up… it will probably end up being a mobile game… (i REALLY hope i’m wrong but…)

  • fallen

    Their refusal to admit that their vision for Final Fantasy is not shared
    by their customers is really the only thing stopping them from creating
    quality games.

    Square still has incredible artists working for them. And what about the directors and producers of the still-successful Dragon Quest franchise? You’ve got the legendary Yuji Horii under your roof and you’re not begging him for input?

    Instead, they are seeking the counsel of the same people who have gotten them into this situation by releasing sub-par games. Arrogance. Modern Square is a parody of themselves.

  • Solomon_Kano

    > quality preservation

    > Toriyama

    Not sure if…

    EDIT: Nomura being out because “he is working in another time axis,” might be the most unintentionally hilarious shit I’ve heard in a good while, considering how long Versus/XV has taken.

    • EX+

      Well, if you think about it, people like Toriyama know what needs to be fixed in FF the most. Because they fucked it up.
      I’m not saying I want him there, but I can understand why SE would put him there.

      • Solomon_Kano

        That’s the thing: putting the person who fucked it up in there doesn’t mean he can fix it. If anything, the assumption would be that his presence would limit what the rest of the group may have otherwise achieved.

        If he could fix it himself, we wouldn’t need this committee to begin with, so adding him to it just feels like a half-step.

  • MrFinalgamer

    if they have toriyama to work with square for a single player RPG, might as well pay a little extra for a Chrono Trigger/Cross sequel…

  • http://twitter.com/RaiuLyn Raiu

    >Final Fantasy quality preservation group

    >Motomu Toriyama (Final Fantasy XIII saga director)

    Yeah…. Good luck with that… But why is Baba involved?

    • Arcana Gear

      “The same issue of V-Jump contains a talk between Tales series producer Hideo Baba,Dragon Quest X producer Yosuke Saito, and Final Fantasy series producer Shinji Hashimoto, where the trio discuss a possible collaboration.”

      But yeah, this deserves a article in my opinion.

  • Elvick

    I like “Tales of Final Quest”.

    (especially since an indie developer has a series called, Dragon Fantasy)

  • Jay

    The title was the best part of this article….

  • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

    how about Xenosaga, dammit.

    • bloodiOS

      Does Monolith Soft not work exclusively for Nintendo now?

      • 罪罰

        Yep, they’re 1st Party now.

        • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

          No, they are still second party. They can do work outside of Nintendo.

          • Sevyne

            No they aren’t. So much misinformation you are spreading here. Nintendo 100% owns Monolith Soft. They are first party. Do a little research please.

            • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

              Monolith is still allowed to do freelance work. If Namco wanted them to make them a game then they have enough autonomy to do so. You go do some research. That Nintendo owns them doesn’t change that fact.

              • Sevyne

                Actually Nintendo owning them DOES change that. You are simply just making stuff up for god knows what reasons. I certainly don’t know why you would though. Namco has ZERO say in the matter. Namco completely sold them off.

                But hey, I’ll leave you to believe whatever you want I guess. You have fun waiting for things that will simply never happen.

                • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

                  You think you know, but you actually don’t. Finished arguing with you, be satisfied in your self important ignorance.

                  And at no point did I say I expect another Saga. Just said that I would like one. #DealWithIt

                  • Sevyne

                    Nothing for me to deal with because I’m right. Adios.

                  • Romored


                    “As of May 6, 2007, Nintendo owned controlling interest in the company after Namco Bandai sold 80% of its 96% stake in Monolith Soft to Nintendo. This went into effect May 1, 2007. Later Namco sold the remaining 16%, making Monolith Soft a first-party developer for Nintendo.”

                    This pretty much settles it. Monolithsoft is first-party because Nintendo has the largest share of it. The only power Namco has on them is tied to certain franchises (like SRWOG). Namco can’t use Monolithsoft to publish games on other consoles but Nintendo ones.

                    • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

                      Wikipedia is not a reliable source and this conversation has been over for some time now.

                      Furthermore, you’re countering your own point in that what I’m asking for it another Xenosaga, a franchise that Namco owns.

                    • Romored

                      Wikipedia may be unreliable, but the references are not: http://www.ign.com/articles/2007/04/27/xenosaga-developer-switches-sides

                      Monolithsoft is owned by Nintendo so it’s first party no matter what, and it can’t “physically” be second party (the “second parties” are simply third party developers that have exclusivity deals to develop games just on certain consoles, which is not the current case).

                    • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

                      Are you familiar with the word semantics?

                    • Romored

                      I am. I just wanted to point out that your information was incorrect and that Monolith are not second, but first party. That is all.


      • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥
        • bloodiOS

          But they’re still making games exclusively for Nintendo’s systems though. I imagine a big game like Xenosaga is not going to be released released on a portable console, nor do I think NGBI is willing to fund a big console title exclusively for the Wii U, and I think Nintendo would rather have Monolith Soft develop new titles for their systems instead.

          • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

            That PXZ came out on 3DS was up to Namco, not Monolith. If Namco has wanted it to be a Vita game, it would have been an vita game. I mean, Platinum’s last few games have been on Nintendo consoles too. Monolith still has enough autonomy that should Namco want them to make a Vita title, then a Vita title they would make. IIRC, X3 came out after Nintendo bought shares in them. Furthermore, there’s nothing to preclude them making a new Xenosaga for Wii U, especially considering how cozy Namco and Nintendo are.

            • bloodiOS

              Hmm, then I suppose NBGI just plain hates getting involved with Xenosaga now (or something like that.)

              • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

                I hate how much bad luck Tetsuya Takakashi has had with this damn series. Xenogears only got one game and that ended up rushed. Xenosaga got truncated by half, so we’ll never know the fate of Kossy and chaos. Xenoblade had horrible pacing issues, mostly due to what I can only assume is a fear of making a multiple game story arc. I could see the logical break points in XB, but it just. kept. going…

                I hope they do something with Soma Bringer at some point. That was a damn fine game.

                I have derailed the everloving fuck out of this conversation about Square.

                EDIT: Oh but they love putting poor Kossy in everything, like Soul Calibur 3, figures, anime, cross over games, anything but her series. :|

                • bloodiOS

                  Maybe Square Enix will suddenly feel like partnering up with NBGI to fund another Xeno-something from Monolith Soft and make this whole conversation somewhat on-topic?

                  • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

                    I’d rather they bought the rights to Gears from Square and the rights to Saga from Namco and let TT go wild making the gorgeous anti FF that he’s been dreaming of, tying all five games into one cohesive narrative.

                    • bloodiOS

                      I’m not seeing Nintendo doing that though as it involves a good chunk of money. I’m only ever seeing them pushing for a new IP.

                    • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

                      A shame too. Xenosaga EP1 felt like a perfect counterpoint to FFX and XB to FFXII. I fully expect X to be the same counter to FFXIII. And honestly, enough people didn’t play Gears, the Saga trilogy and Blade, that they could totally get away with a remix and few would be the wiser.

            • fallen

              This is incorrect. Xenosaga 3 came out before the acquisition.

              BTW if Nintendo doesn’t want Monolith developing a game that gets published on the Vita, it doesn’t happen. It’s like when Microsoft bought Rare. They let Rare keep releasing games for the GBA because Microsoft had no stake in the market. Monolith does not have autonomy. They are owned by Nintendo.

              • http://popculturesocialclub.com/ DreamDrop♥

                (i said IIRC)
                That sets precedent. If Nintendo keeps making money, I doubt they’ll complain too much. I mean, Sony’s going to profit from every xbone sold too. Same concept.

                Besides. It’s not like it’s going to happen in any case.

                • fallen

                  I know you said “IIRC”! I was just letting you know that YDNRC. :)

  • bloodiOS

    Yeah, I’m looking forward to that pickle that Motomu-san is preserving *SMH*

  • FucSh1a

    Soon they will remove towns from FF for better quality.

    • bloodiOS

      Please, soon, you won’t even need to move at all to beat the game.

      • LunarHaven

        *caugh* Beyond Two Souls *caugh*

        • bloodiOS

          You’re joking, right? You still need to move Jodie from time to time, you know. By the way, *cough (unless you’re going for that cough + laugh combination)

          • LunarHaven

            Hahaha indeed, hitting X when X is promted on screen and moving a character for a few seconds is still considered gaming, but it is still one of the most dangerous steps towards not playing at all. :(

            • bloodiOS

              *LOL* Yeah, I know. It’s also the reason why it’s called an interactive drama instead of game (calling it a video game make me cringe.)

  • 1Truth

    Where is Hiroyuki Ito?

    • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

      Great question. I miss Ito’s games.

      • 1Truth

        I have hope that Hiroyuki Ito is too busy directing FFXVI. That’s why he’s not part of this committee.

        • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

          Same. I hope he is busy working on some new unannounced title at the very least. Not a mobile title.

  • http://lfdn.deviantart.com/ CosmicNova

    When they say, “Nomura is working in another time axis.” are they stating, he is working in a different time period then any of theses guys?

  • kurosan9712

    After XII and XIII saga, I don’t believe any of the future FF games can be good…
    Give me another FFIV(in terms of quality, I mean), and then we can talk.

    • MogCakes

      XII not good? Lies

      • kurosan9712

        It’s opinions, man. I don’t like one-man-MMO, you may like it as much as you want, though. However, that won’t make FFXII better than older games.

        • MogCakes

          Objectively? I’d say it is. Though IMO comparisons between a lot of the elements beyond graphics are futile.

          • kurosan9712

            There is no such thing as an objective opinion. There is, however, such thing as crowd opinion, which makes a lot of weak-minded follow it. I don’t, if I don’t think the same.
            There are a lot of elements to compare, and graphics may not be compared at all, because it’s the least important parameter. I would choose a 8bit game over FF13, for example, because it’d be MUCH better(and would be a game, not a movie).

            • MogCakes

              Graphics can be measured objectively, as in terms of polygons, shaders, etc. Beyond that, it is very subjective, I agree.

  • new_tradition

    There’s really some things you don’t need to tell publications, lol

  • Willgaea

    Must have been free sake night. Playing games with my heart.

  • Sae-Won Yoon

    Maybe it’s just the post-Kill La Kill adrenaline talking.

    But the idea of these guys forming an alliance seems pretty cool.
    As for as logically, I’m surprised that this wasn’t done earlier.

    Tetsuya Nomura drawing for Dragon Quest whilst Fujishima draws for Final Fantasy seems pretty interesting…on paper.

    I’m just more worried about the feedback and reception about this. I can think of a few purists (myself admittedly included) who might not exactly like this. But hey, some optimism can’t hurt, I hope.

  • LunarHaven

    I really dislike reading stuff like this: ”They should make what the fans want, then they will succeed”. Etc. In my book, I label those kind of thoughts SELL OUTS… some may look at games as PURE business and entertainment, but if anyone see it as art, you wouldn’t say those things in my opinion, art has a LOT or MOST to do with self expression. And if they have an artistic vision and view you may not 100% agree with, so be it. I think the fact that they went all out on FF XIII and speak only positively about it themselves, show that they have honour and balls of steel to stand what they believe in.

    I for one, hope that they NEVER cater to their own fanbase and just do what they envision in the future as well.

    • Elvick

      Um, SE is making FF based on PURE business.

      That’s why they’ve tried to westernize their Japanese games. In the process destroying the faith their dedicated fanbase had in them.

      • LunarHaven

        So you would say FF XIII is westernized in any way? Uuuuummmmmm…. I can’t see an inch of anything related to what the west want, more the opposite.

  • Neutron15

    good thing that I love both old and new final fantasy, best of both worlds

  • Budgiecat

    Akira Toriyama creates

    Motomu Toriyama destroys

  • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

    I’m not even sure I want to comment about the “Final Fantasy Committee.” The explanation of what this committee is actually going to do is vague. Do they just talk in a room about projects they are currently working on or something? If that’s the case, are they not already doing that?

    Anyways. I would be interested to see what kind of single player Final Fantasy Yoshida would create. I doubt we will see that anytime soon, considering how busy he will be with FFXIV.

    I know lots of fans are mixed in regards to Toriyama and Kitase. Mostly because fans are mixed on the 13 saga. Let’s not forget they both were heavily involved in FFX, which I think most fans love? They both have been directors or co-directors on other Square titles as well.

    What I’m saying is, you might not like some of the games they work on, but that doesn’t mean everything they are involved in is awful. Just wikipedia both and take a look at some of the projects they have been involved in.

  • papermario

    is this a joke?

  • PrinceHeir

    tbh i would rather have Tales X Fire Emblem or even Golden Sun since all three franchises really fit well together than FF or DQ.

    Final Fantasy X Dragon Quest makes sense though.