Killzone: Shadow Fall is a 50 gigabyte download
posted on 09.30.13 at 11:58 AM EDT by (@salromano)
"It looks it, too," says Sony UK boss.

PlayStation 4 launch title Killzone: Shadow Fall is a 50 gigabyte download, according to Sony Computer Entertainment UK boss Fergal Gara.

Speaking to Eurogamer, Gara said digitally download games are “definitely going to grow as a means of consumption,” and “there are big innovations in the PS4 to make it more attractive and more easy gamer wise to want to download.”

He continued, “The ‘Play As You Download’ functionality, for example, means you don’t need the whole file before you go. This is a little bit counterbalanced by the fact the files themselves are getting bloody big. Killzone: Shadow Fall is an uber file – I think it’s cracking on for 50GB. It looks it, too, when you see it.”

Gara stressed that Sony’s pre file delivery is “not perfect,” nor “seamless,” but “a major area of focus.”

“The file version of the game versus the disc version of the game maybe needs to go through additional QA and additional testing,” Gara said.

Killzone: Shadow Fall is due out for PlayStation 4 on November 15. It will be available in both physical and download versions.

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  • ヴァルラシュ

    welcome to next gen i guess

  • DarthBrian

    And this is one of the main reasons why it will be a while before disc-based media goes away.

    • Bryce Blalex Douglas

      Very true. No other media has to worry about 30+ Gb files to download. And tthat’s going to be the average next Gen. I don’t see Triple A games being bought digital more than retail for awhile.

  • DreamDrop♥


    Wait, what?

  • Guest

    Any idea of what the max BD size is for PS3/PS4? Wikipedia links to this, but it’s an old (and short) article:

  • Solomon_Kano

    Disc reaffirmed.

    50 GB download would take me AGES. Google Fiber needs to hurry up and expand~

    • jujubee88

      You say that but I have high speed online and can download 5GB files in less than 1 hour sometimes. So I wonder if I can’t just use the Playstation app on my phone while I’m at school/work and it get’s done when the day is over and I com back home.

      Also, it must suck for poor customers with data caps. They would be getting the shaft on this the most bc time is one thing but money and needing to renew bc of one or two games this size is another thing.

      • Solomon_Kano

        Took me like… half a day to download the ARR beta. Some exaggeration, of course, but it wasn’t just a few hours for me. So 50 GBs would make that look like nothing. My internet’s good for smaller stuff, great for browsing, but this is out of the question. If you can manage 5 GB in ~1 hour though, you should be pretty good if you start your downloads up when you leave for work.

        Didn’t even think about data caps. Damn. I know some AT&T customers have a 150 GB cap, so that’d be like 3 games, and they’d be gone for the whole month.

  • Leon Keyv

    and this why kids, u buy physical.

  • bloodiOS

    Factoring in the space reserved for copyright mumbo jumbo, it simply isn’t possible to have full access to 50GB so how is it possible that digital has bigger size than retail copy?

    • abysswalker

      How do you know digital is bigger than retail? I haven’t read about it but maybe the BD drives of PS4 allow for 3 or 4 layered BD

      • bloodiOS

        Retail copies can’t have full access to 50GB while digital copies are cracking 50GB? Isn’t that implying it’ll be bigger than retail? Also, why would Sony include Blu-ray drive that is compatible with 3-4 layered disc while the PS4 is already selling at a loss? To further drive up the cost?

        • abysswalker

          Again, you’re implying PS4 drives are only compatibe with 50GB BD.

          I’m no expert on BD but did a little research and couldn’t find anything confirmed about PS4 + BDXL but I could find speculation about a BDx6 Drive (confirmed) being compatible with BDXL.

          Well we know it’s selling at a loss, but couldn’t that loss be caused by the BD drive? I can see that being the case; if this is hapening at launch imagine how big games are going to get in two or three years… also 4K.

          Remember that consoles are no longer just for playing games.

          • bloodiOS

            Well, I’ll wait and see, but given that it’s not a widespread technology, I’m not betting on it. By the way, 4K is irrelevant, since it’s only limited to photos and video files (not Blu-ray movies, which is limited to 1080p, and certainly not on-demand services), games are only allowed the maximum of 1080p.

    • GhostNomad

      Could be some sort of information that’s been left off the disk and is meant to be downloaded. If that’s the case, it’s probably gonna be MP-related like maps and such. Disk gets all your SP goodies, if you plan to play online, you download the extra data for no extra charge, you have the complete game. If you buy digital, you’re buying it online to begin with so… You just get all the data.

      Of course this could be completely wrong, but it would make sense as a potential explanation to why retail is smaller than digital.

    • Kevadu

      Or, you know, maybe they rounded that off. If you actually read the statement it sounds like a very rough estimate, not an exact figure…

      • bloodiOS

        Yeah, cracking 50GB is what I read. It isn’t “close to” but already “cracking” it, which for me is probably a few hundred MB shy from it. But yeah, the guy probably was just dropping number for the heck of it.

    • AnimusVox

      I know this is off topic and I’m sorry mods, but quick question; Who’s that in your avy?

      • bloodiOS

        Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack On Titan)’s Annie Leonhardt.

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  • GhostNomad

    …. Well, this next gen is really gonna suck for people with bandwidth caps.

    [EDIT] As an afterthought…. If this is a sign of the next gen games being at least 30GB+…. I hope to god Sony is actually planning on pouring money into PSN for some major improvements.

    • TheBlackRabbit

      that is what pS plus is for…..hopefully….

    • bloodiOS

      Waiting for Gaikai magic ;)

      • GhostNomad

        That’s just for PS3 games right? Any word on them making PS4 games available through the service? O.o

        • bloodiOS

          I’m pretty sure the intent was to fully integrate Gaikai and its technology into bettering PSN as a whole. Of course, they’re still working on it at the moment.

  • bloodiOS

    Here’s hoping that Killzone: Shadow Fall‘s 50GB isn’t the same as Killzone 3‘s 41.5GB…

  • new_tradition

    Omg O_O

    How much storage will launch systems have? 500 GB? After formatting and what not, it’ll be more than 10% gone to just one game (and there’s probably going to be dlc to take up more space).

    Factoring data limits and speed, this is… X_x

    • AnimusVox

      Yeah they’re 500 but despite that this game has alot of gigs. Maybe KZ is one of the few that has that much memory requirements. But if not, then we’re in for a rude awakening if future games require so much. It’ll be gone in a snap.

  • captainhowdy

    GOOD LORD. That’s all I can say.

  • MrKappa

    Not a good start for people who want to go all digital for next gen. That would take a good while to download.

  • TheBlackRabbit

    -PUKES RAINBOWS- ….my hardrive

  • Sevyne

    I already expected games to be this large, but this is part of the reason why going all digital is a hard pill to swallow for many folks. As games evolve and tech advances further, the sizes of these games are just going to grow larger. Granted, drive space is only getting cheaper as time goes on, but that space is still precious to a lot of us.

    That said; I’ll be sticking to my usual, “Only buying games digital that only have a digital option”.

  • Ni ~Algidus~

    I hope that the local internet company expand the fiber ASAP…

    • TheBlackRabbit

      turn it on at night and watch it get done by morning! then your console will explode, but hey….STILL WORKS! Q~Q

      • AdamBoy64

        I’d have to go to a capital city, walk into a phone exchange, and plug my console straight in to be able to get anywhere near that sort of speed.

        Over here, if I were lucky, I’d get it in 20 hours.

      • Ni ~Algidus~

        maybe four mornings in my case lol

  • Yuri4prez

    I’m still waiting for comfirmation of the size of the PS4 HDD. Is it going to be the same size as PS3’s? I want to upgrade the hard drive on day 1 to save me time later on down the line, but don’t know what hard drives fit in PS4’s.

    Imagine on day 1, downloading Warframe and Drive Club….. A 500GB isn’t going to cut it for very long..

    • bloodiOS

      Buy this:

      Not only will it definitely fit, it will also offers much better performance than PS4’s stock HDD.

  • Syltique

    This is why I laugh at people calling digital an “unstoppable force.” Lots of people will met many things that stop them if they download 50 GB games, like bandwidth caps and HDD space limits. All those costs are passed on to you, the consumer. At the same time, they make more money.

    • AdamBoy64

      Yep, great comment.

      I’d never be able to justify getting the digital version.

      The internet over here isn’t sufficient (well, cheap enough) to just go downloading 50gb as you please.

  • Elvick

    Took me over 20 hours just to download Okami HD, which was 6GB.

    Can’t imagine how long this would take. FFXIV Beta updates… *shutters* those took so long I don’t even like to think about it.

    These things are why I scoff at those who think physical is going to take over any time soon. You may have fast internet, but you are not the world. I don’t think people even consider the world outside of their reach when they say those things.

    You having good internet is why there’s digital AND physical options. You can do it all you want. While those with shitty internet (or data caps) can just go buy a disc instead.

    And… with countries/areas with data limits, I don’t even know how they’ll ever be able to play games if they go digital only.

    • Budgiecat

      Disc will always be better.

      Case in point: my friends drunk friend pissed all over his PS3 last week now he has to buy a new one and redownload everything.

      • Kevadu

        Pissed on a PS3?! What the hell is wrong with your friends…I don’t care how drunk you are, I can’t imagine a situation where that would be acceptable. I mean, for starters aren’t most consoles places in living rooms? Do your friends piss in their living rooms?

        • Bobby Jennings

          It’s not always in a living room. It can just be in a room

          • Jay

            So pissing in another room is better?

            • Bobby Jennings

              I’m sorry if I implied that.

            • Zancrow

              Maybe it’s in the bathroom? :p

        • DrForbidden

          His friend is probably another cat. Or a dog…

      • AdamBoy64

        What on earth.. did he electrocute himself?

    • Ritsujun

      Why did you waste your HDD space? Should’ve gotten rid of your laziness, done research and bought the 6GB NA version.

      • Elvick

        All you did was confirm that the game was infinitely smaller than I thought. Meaning it took even longer to download something that’s small, rather than large.

        Which simply proved my point.

        Not sure what you’re on about with laziness and the other stuff that reeks of attitude though.

        • Ritsujun

          LOL. Someone edited his post. “20somethingGB” was edited to “6GB”. Phail.

          • Elvick

            LOL. Someone said in the comment that you just replied to that you just confirmed it was infinitely smaller than I originally thought.

            Thus, pointing out that I had it wrong originally.

            But hey, you clearly have something up your butt. So enjoy your private time with it.

            • Ritsujun

              Yeah, all hail the power of the Edit.

              • Elvick

                That’s what edit is for. And I never denied changing it… instead of noting it in my original comment, I just replied to you about it instead.

                To which you felt the need to show your lovely personality was just as I originally thought.

                We’re done. You are ridiculous.

          • Sevyne

            It’s a fail to correct a mistake and then kind of acknowledge it in the following post (ya know; the one you responded to)? If you say so champ.

    • kiri25

      This is why it will be further in the future before we see all digital download/streaming.

      For me 6 gb file takes about 2hrs but not all have such speed or the ability to download at this time, so it’ll be good awhile before we see digital only. This is also one of the reasons ms’s always online checkin policy was flawed since not everyone has internet. I just hope all ms games have the updates on the discs for customers that don’t have internet For the day one update required to remove all those bad policies.

  • kiri25

    I don’t think it will happen anytime soon but I do believe it will all go digital in the future.

    Tho I don’t think downloading is going to be major form of digital. I believe it’ll be a mixture of both downloading and streaming ur games like sony is planing to with ps3 games in ps4.

    I can see to save ur hdd you having the option to download the games u really want on ur system and steaming the others. Of course this will not take place till the majority of consumers have internet.

  • Raiu

    I wonder how Steam will fix this problem…. Nevertheless, prepare your bandwidth and harddrives, people!!!! For next-gen and big files!!!!

    Thank god for physical discs…..

    • $18114340

      I’m not sure how many PC games actually require so much space. The largest I can think of right off the bat is RAGE, which is 20-25gb. Payday 2 is around 20gb. Some MMOs might be larger than that. Out of the nearly 200 games in my Steam library there isn’t a single game that passes 30gb and I can’t think of any that do either.

      I honestly think that Sony is just throwing this number out to sound impressive and dramatic. There is no way in hell they can satisfy customers who buy digital if they have to download 50gbs. Their service can’t handle that much traffic, either.

      I think this is all an attempt to upsell streaming services and “play as you download”. You probably won’t have to download a large portion of the game in order to actually start it up and play it. And I seriously doubt you need to keep the entire 50gb on your hard drive in order to play it, either; they might separate the multiplayer component and make you download the single-player campaign in more easily-managed chunks or something.

      EDIT: Bioshock Infinite requires 20gb, but recommends 30gb. I seriously cannot think of a single game that needs 50gb. It’s either a load of crap or a terrible unoptimized preliminary number they’re using to drum up press. Wait for the game to come out, then we’ll see.

  • Zero

    The inevitable nuclear war between digital content providers and internet service providers gets closer and closer each day.

    They more or less whine about things right now, but the war is coming. One of these well known internet services should really step up before it gets to that.

    • $18114340

      I’m not even sure if the content providers even have any leverage over ISPs here in the United States. ISPs are notoriously powerful (as are television broadcast companies), and deeply entrenched in the industry. They won’t budge, and when a challenger steps up to the plate like Google Fiber the existing ISPs try to manipulate the law to undermine the competition.

      Oh yeah, while we’re on the subject… FUCK YOU TIME WARNER I’M NEVER COMING BACK

    • DreamDrop♥

      I’d bank on Google making an ISP.