Rumor: Xbox One designed to be always-on for 10 years
posted on 07.31.13 at 04:03 PM EST by (@admeady)
Microsoft's console designed to be "always-on."

Digital Foundry has received new information pertaining the Xbox One’s form factor, power usage, and cooling systems from “insider sources.”

Microsoft’s fundamental principle, according to the site, is that the Xbox One should last ten years in an always-on state.

Another key aspect is the console’s larger size—a design choice meant to manage heat flow and help avoid overheating, a fault which plagued Xbox 360 with its now infamous Red Ring of Death.

“Microsoft has not released any official specifications on the dimensions of the final box, but extrapolating from the sizes of known components (principally the USB port),” Digital Foundry writes, “Xbox One is approximately 34x26x8cm – more set-top box than console, and noticeably larger than the launch version of the Xbox 360.”

Developers have reportedly told the site that in its idle state the console is “entirely silent,” with “fan noise only noticeable during gaming when the AMD processor is really being put through its paces.”

Xbox One’s quietness is attributed to hard drive installs—the fact that the disc drive isn’t used when playing games—as well as the large fan size, meaning it doesn’t have spin as much as a smaller fan.

“Also consider the technological make-up of the AMD processor. The closest match we have in terms of PC hardware to the Xbox One graphics core is the Radeon HD 7790, which draws 85W at peak,” the site said.

“The Xbox One version runs at lower frequencies and has two fewer compute units. AMD’s Jaguar CPU architecture is also highly energy efficient—it’s designed with tablets in mind. Even factoring in the DDR3, ESRAM and custom silicon, we should expect see a complete system power draw that’s a world away from the ‘power at all costs’ approach to the launch versions of the Xbox 360 and PS3, which used in the region of 170-200W.”

These are only some of the more notable points. Read the full story at Digital Foundry.

  • bloodiOS

    A system only breaks down after series of on/off, heat up/cool down. Leaving it on for 10 years straight means nothing.

    • dior

      You stay looking for reasons to crap on M$, huh?

      • bloodiOS

        That’s just how it is, it doesn’t matter if it was Sony or Nintendo. Anyone comes out saying their console can run 10 years straight can just go shove it right back into his/her mouth. Or what, you somehow feel the need to defend, to feel offended for them?

        • Guest

          Never mind, I misread the article…

        • dior

          No, in fact I’m sure if this was a PS4 article you would be swooning over the idea of having the ability to leave your console on for ten years and you know damn well that’s a fact. It’s just a comment section of a video game blog, I dislike M$’s practices as much as the next person but your arrogance over the fact you get a couple “upvotes” is appalling. Grow up.

          • bloodiOS

            No, in fact I'm sure if this was a PS4 article you would be swooning over the idea of having the ability to leave your console on for ten years and you know damn well that's a fact.

            Don’t push your biased misconception on me.

            but your arrogance over the fact you get a couple "upvotes" is appalling

            I don’t remember having a single upvote (not that I care) back when I replied back to you. If there’s anyone arrogant here, it’s you who believe the way you think is the “fact” and everyone else must be talking bullshit if he doesn’t “admit” to be the kind of person you think he is. THAT is appalling. The fact that you’re still talking/worrying about votes at all is a good indication that you need to grow up.

            • Willgaea

              I have to agree with this^

      • Zancrow

        Yet you are using the “M$” moniker.
        Just seems a bit odd is all. : p

  • InsaneChronos

    After the PS4 RAM fail there is no reason to believe DF.

    • AdamBoy64

      EDIT: Apologies. I read your comment wrong.

    • MogCakes

      Three people misread your comment, but I didn’t!

  • TetsuyaHikari

    I’m honestly surprised they expect this to last 10 years. Maybe I’m just judging the course of gaming consoles, but you’d think they would probably only last about half that time now or so because they would want to push out the newest hardware as soon as they can (basically begin working on the PS5 as soon as the PS4 is out).

    I honestly can’t imagine the XBOX One lasting until 2023 though. That just sounds crazy in my head when I think about it. Don’t get me wrong though, I feel the same way towards PS4 and Wii U also.

    • Kazriko Redclaw

      Why? I still use my GBA more than 10 years after its release. There’s people who still use Atari and NES systems as well.

      • TetsuyaHikari

        Well, there’s a difference in someone still using a product years after its release. Hell, I kept playing the Dreamcast well after it had already “died”. That’s not my point though.

        I mean from a consumer standpoint… Technology is growing at such a rapid pace these days that consoles should be coming out a bit sooner than 10 years or allow us to simply add to them to modify them with better hardware later on in order to play better games, much like PCs. Personally, I think a 5 year wait would be appropriate, tops.

        Now, that’s not to say I haven’t enjoyed the games I have played in the later half of this generation, but still… A part of me does wish to bring consoles closer to PC gaming than we currently are now. However… Putting a 10 year lifespan on a console is just making that gap between PC gaming and console gaming continue to grow even more than it already has.

        EDIT: I’m currently 27 years old, turning 28 this year. Do you realize that if consoles continue to have a 10 year lifespan, if I live a long and healthy life, and die at the age of 87… I will basically be dead by the time the PS10 comes out, if they stick with numbering the console that is.

        Now, granted, we’ll probably have a much better way of playing games within the next 20 years, but right now… I just feel like we’re falling behind as console gamers, that’s all.

        • Kazriko Redclaw

          I think you’re confusing “lifespan” with “replacement cycle.” This is the same mistake everyone makes when Sony says their products have a 10 year lifecycle. That doesn’t mean it’ll be 10 years before the replacement comes out, it means that they will be producing and supporting the product for 10 years after its release, even though 6-7 years after release the next console comes out.

          • TetsuyaHikari

            No, I’m not confusing them. A lifespan of a console can be as long as the gamer wants it to be (using your NES and Atari as an example here), however… As consumers, the console is pretty much dead as soon as a newer model comes out. Sure, the person more concerned about games will stick with the older console, despite its “expiration date”, but I’d be willing to bet there are more people who are willing to cast aside their “old” and “useless” hardware as soon as a newer model is announced, ready to move on into the next generation.

            • Kazriko Redclaw

              Firstly, if your statement about people casting away their old and useless hardware is true, then you have nothing at all to worry about with your original post. 5-6 years later a replacement for the Xbox One comes out, and everyone instantly moves to it. Hurrah.

              Secondly, that’s probably only true for a subset of gamers. Those on a budget or who aren’t early adopters are going to stick to the less expensive hardware for longer, probably until the point in the new console’s lifecycle where its price drops down to 2/3rds and the 3rd generation of games start being released for it. That’s going to be 2-3 years into the new console’s lifecycle, so having your old console be supported for 3-4 years after that release is a good thing.

              • TetsuyaHikari

                Hrm… I suppose that’s true, but sometimes companies continuing to support older hardware is quite troublesome. It’s one thing if the consumer themselves wish to continue showing support, but if the company does so while alienating the newer generation, it can be frustrating.

                A perfect example of this right now is Capcom releasing Sengoku Basara 4 on PS3 instead of PS4, despite it coming out in 2014, after the release of PS4. If it was a multiplatform game, that would be one thing, but it’s not… Instead, knowing Capcom, there will probably be a Sengoku Basara 4: Heroes of some sort in the future which will be an expansion of the PS3 title only on PS4 instead, when they could have just put it on PS4 from the beginning with a PS3 port.

                • Kazriko Redclaw

                  I believe that’s probably an audience concern, and one of a game that was in development before they got the dev kits for the PS4. They may have spent too much money on it for the PS3 and wouldn’t think that the sales would be high enough on the PS4 to recoup that investment. I don’t usually expect a drastic amount of really high end content until the start of the second year a console is out. You end up seeing more launch title sort of things that were developed quickly or were ported quickly from a prior console.

                  I imagine the higher end games for the two systems will start in late November 2014, and the really good games that were meant for the system from the beginning will be coming out in Holiday of 2015.

                  Not to mention the translation issues. A game that is a launch title in JP for a system may take a year extra to be ported. In some cases, titles have taken 6+ years to be released here after their original release. (See Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky.)

                  • TetsuyaHikari

                    Disregarding the translation issues, I just mean releasing the game, period. Also… I don’t buy that first statement about it being in development before they got the dev kits for the PS4. I seriously doubt that.

                    Hell, Final Fantasy XIII was in development for PS2 before the PS3 came out, but they switched development from PS2 to PS3, despite knowing what kind of sales it would bring in, so I think that’s kind of a poor excuse to not make the shift into the next generation or multiplatform, honestly.

      • Lelouch Vi Britannia

        I still play my PS2 and switch between my PS3, N64, Sega Dreamcast Sega Genesis, Snes,Nes,Famicom,Gamecube, Wii and lastly my Atari 2600.

    • Zackasaur

      The PS4 will probably be the only one still getting content in ten years. Mind you, the PS5 will start phasing it out around year seven or so.

      • MogCakes

        I pray the 360 isn’t axed like its predecessor once the 180 launches.

        • Zackasaur

          It is already axed, to an extent. Some third parties are releasing titles for it, of course… That’s partially because third parties work on both PS3 and 360.

          But I consider “support” to really be over when the first-party ditches it, and Microsoft ditched the 360 already, while the One isn’t even out yet.

          Microsoft might try to keep the 360 around in stores as the “cheap and casual” alternative to the One, even if they aren’t supporting it. That’s what Sony has always done and will do with the PS3… But Sony does have a tradition of supporting their platforms personally for longer.

  • KnifeAndFork

    I’m turning it off

    • AdamBoy64

      Yes. I want all my consoles to be in the ‘off’ state when I’m not using them.

  • Kazriko Redclaw

    I’ve seen the insides of their cases. There’s absolutely nothing in there designed to manage heat flow. It’s just a big brick heatsink with the airflow going every which direction inside the case after it’s sucked in through the top vent. What the case does have is tons and tons of wasted space and a bunch of stupid cables that could come loose in shipping, rather than connectors for the bluray drive and hard drive directly on a circuit board. It’s a big, inefficient design that could have been less than half the size and still had the same efficiency at dissipating heat.

    As for 10 years, that’s not enough at all. I expect to play my games for 20 years after release.

    Also, their PS3 watt count is incorrect. It used closer to 290 watts on the launch consoles.

  • ragingmerifes

    For the title, I actually, for one second, thought M$ did another 180 and made the X1 a console that couldn’t be turned off or disconnected for 10 years.

  • DarthNemesis

    But you wont be playing games for 10 years as they can not carry their console.

  • ghostbooster

    i will buy an xbox1 point the kinect camera to ps4 for 10 years now
    muahauhahah(evil laugh?) the xbox will suffer

  • rockman29

    So when did Eurogamer become the primary base for release Xbone information?

    Don’t get me wrong, a news story is a news story.

    But EG keeps coming up with sources about MS talking about Xbone and MS talking about PS4 and taking it a little too much as gospel.

    And every single one of these articles is written by Leadbetter? Methinks he’s just channeling news directly from MS almost, and farming it out into as many articles as often as possible.

    It’s a little ridiculous. This isn’t after a press event even where we usually get so many articles. This is simply during a time of no information releases except using EG as a spout.

    Doesn’t make sense IMO.

    • TetsuyaHikari

      Well, I suppose when there is no information to be reported on, you dig at the bottom of the barrel and present rumors as a form to keep the chatter going. As you can see from this article, it’s working, lol.

    • AdamBoy64

      I think it’s a clever form of advertising, which yeah, seems to be working.

  • gerald

    Makes sense. How else can Kinect spy on you for PRISM? Always-on DRM? Nope, that didn’t work, just leave me low-power state instead bro, trust me, we cool.

  • AdamBoy64

    It’s good to read this. Sounds like it’s a huge improvement over the 360 in this regard.

    I remember the early days of the 360, to play at night, I had to put the console in a different room as the TV (used a long HDMI cable).

    Otherwise, the console would be so loud I’d have to turn up the volume on the TV to compensate, and in order to hear anything over the console I’d have to turn up the volume loud enough to wake people up.

    Man, those were the days. Since we can play games off the HDD it’s a lot better, but you still find yourself turning up the volume whenever the 360 is on.

    Man the 360 was such a poorly designed piece of hardware.

    So, good job with the hardware this time around Microsoft.

  • kuusou yume

    I doubt the non-replaceable hard drive in the Xbox One will last 10 years

    • AdamBoy64

      Ooh, that’s a good point!

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  • Budgiecat

    Help! Skynet has become self aware and taken over!

  • Zackasaur

    Why would I ever want to turn one on?