Fez II cancelled
posted on 07.27.13 at 05:17 PM EDT by (@salromano)
"You win," says Polytron Corporation.

Polytron Corporation is no longer developing Fez II, it announced.

“It’s with a heavy heart that we announce that Fez II has been cancelled and is no longer in development,” the company said on Twitter. “We apologize for the disappointment.”

Separately, on its official blog, the company said, “Fez II is cancelled. I am done. I take the money and I run. This is as much as I can stomach. This isn’t the result of any one thing, but the end of a long, bloody campaign. You win.”

Fez II was first announced just last month.

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  • DarthBrian

    I don’t understand. Who is this ‘you’ who won?

    • gerald

      The rest of the ENTIRE CRUEL WORLD that was against him when he only wanted to grace us peasants with his gaming brilliance.

    • Mar Mar

      I don’t even know who Fez, Beer and Fish is

    • HeatPhoenix


  • MasterSensei

    I don’t understand what this guy is saying…
    Was that quote meant to be directed towards someone else?

  • Zackasaur

    A guy in the industry named Marcus Beer ruthlessly and publicly added to the bullying and harassment this poor, talented dev has faced.

    It’s an awful, awful story. That’s the “you” he is referring to.

    • Sevyne

      Awful? I’m sorry, but I feel zero sympathy for Fish. He’s always been a pompous ass towards everyone. Always with that shitty attitude. His own fault that he can’t take what he gives. Good riddance.

    • Elvick

      I feel bad for Fish on some levels, but on others… not as much. Since he does act like a douche a lot. If you’re going to continue to act that way, then of course you’re going to continue to get a ton of haters and a bad image.

      Instead of blocking his haters, he spewed venom back which only gave them more reason to call him a douche and more examples for people to pull up when they were calling into question his character.

      I’m disappointed Fez II is cancelled for no reason (as it appears to have been). And that Fish is being so immature about the whole thing. Just block them and move on and make your damn game.

      I’m also disappointed in people for not being able to just ignore the guy’s awful behavior. Don’t like him? Don’t buy/play his games or follow his words on twitter/wherever.

  • https://twitter.com/Panda_castro Panda
    • rurifan

      The blog post is so juvenile I assumed it must’ve been some troll hacker. Then I read your link and realize with disgust how juvenile Fish really is. Let’s all ignore him, he doesn’t rate the attention he’s looking for.

  • GetOffMy_Lawn

    Phil Fish is the most pompis, immature douche in the industry.

    • jujubee88

      Death. Nervous energy. Japan. Video game insight.

      Those are the things I would say I know about Fish. And I didn’t know much about him to begin with.

      Plus, if you guys here at Gematsu hate Fish because he said somethings about Japanese game industry (and that’s part of the reason why we love and visit this site a lot), than you need to get the eff over that and move on. It’s horrible to hold that kinda crap in or against someone.

      And if you wanna call me out for saying what I just told you I’ll just lock my disqus and cancel erm..um, my balls ._.

      • GetOffMy_Lawn

        I really don’t have an issue with the fact he hates Japanese games. I strongly disagree with him, but his opinion is understandable; I feel the same way about FPS’s. My problem with him is that he is totally rude, wildly immature, and quite possibly the most egotistical man in the industry. Take the Japanese games incident. He didn’t just say he didn’t care for Japanese games, he said, “your games just suck. They’re f*** terrible.” Oh yeah, and he said this directly to a Japanese game dev. He’s just a dick.

        • jujubee88

          That (GDC thing) wasn’t really ego. That was his good judgement of words taking a back seat to his “hey look at this shocking opening line of words, guy! WOOOO!”.

          And I can’t really hate him for that since he put his own face to that and owned that. And he put his ego in check in that same interview when he clarified his views on modern vs old Japanese gaming. That’s not immature or egotistical to me at all.

          Is he a jerk? Yeah, I can see that. No need to hate him for it, though. We all know a jerk or are a jerk ourselves sometimes.

  • vertical09

    I remember way back when he pretty much dissed all of Japan’s games and dev’s, and was a real asshole about it. I have no sympathy for this guy.

    • Lelouch Vi Britannia

      I agree and as relatiation towards that Ashole i didn’t buy the game.

    • Guest

      I boycotted his game as well

    • ddsfan2

      I can’t say that I “boycotted” his game as much as it didn’t interest me, but I certainly wouldn’t fault others for doing so.

      It looks like a quality game, just not something that I’d want to play.

      His poor behavior probably increased the (likely massive) sales of his game, so I’ve got no sympathy for him whatsoever.

      • Josephl64

        true enough

  • Lelouch Vi Britannia

    Many Gamers the World Around were pissed, myself included when he bashed on Japanese Games.

  • http://twitter.com/Sieghardt Sieghardt

    Fez II never existed, the people who made the previous game for him swore they’d never work with him again. But instead of accepting his mistakes he goes on to literally blame everyone but himself

  • new_tradition

    I’m sorry, but I laughed

  • Guest

    Fish and beer, one hell of serving. Certainly is more complex than it appears.

  • http://www.rapist.com ghostbooster

    1)make fun of Japanese games
    2)tell people stop being sensitive
    3)someone makes fun of him
    4)he got sensitive and cancelled his game
    6) no profit

    • GetOffMy_Lawn

      Don’t forget the time he told a member of the media to compare their life to his, then to kill them self.

    • Kuma Kabo

      It gets tossed around a lot, but I don’t remember him ever making fun of Japanese games. He said that modern Japanese games suck and are not innovative. After his words, many reports of Japanese developers spoke up and agreed, citing business practices as reasons.

      Then he endures constant personal attacks both online and off.

      No, yeah, totally the same.

      • jujubee88

        Yeah man. Inafune cited Fish and the way video games publishers work in Japan as a motivation for him to go indie and create his company “Comception”.

        By a show of votes: If you like Inafune and his work vote up. If you don’t like Inafune and his work vote down.

        Thanks! ^^

  • ddsfan2

    For a guy who said extremely hurtful and offensive things in person to a Japanese developer with far more development experience, his reactions to the public are bizarre.

    Beyond that, Phil’s criticisms are subjective and illogical. The braid creator made many of the same superfluous criticisms, but stated them in a much more coherent way.

    From what I’ve seen of Fez, (played the Demo), it draws heavily from 90’s platformer games, so whether or not he likes “old” Japanese games, he should have more respect for something that he borrowed heavily from..

    • McPoo

      I didn’t realise he’d said anything about Japanese devs until today. Although he could have been more tactful about it, I have to admit I agree with a lot of what was said

  • https://twitter.com/Panda_castro Panda

    Someone made a video already.

    • jujubee88

      lol The music and dramatic zoom ins made that video like one of those Hollywood gossip channel reels the likes of “Britney Meltdown!”. Haha.

  • Zackasaur

    “To be clear, I’mm not cancelling FEZ II because some boorish f**k said something stupid,” tweeted Fish. “I’m doing it to get out of games.”

    And he went on to add: “And I’m getting out of games because I choose not to put up with this abuse anymore.”

    He’s a strong person to do this, and I wish him the best. It’s sad that someone with such talent and passion can be driven out of his entire life’s work because so many people are petty, vile bullies.

    • rurifan

      Well I guess even the biggest douchebags can have groupies. :)

    • Elvick

      But… he’s a petty, vile bully himself.

      Which is why most of his haters exist in the first place.

      He played with fire, and he got burned.

      No, two wrongs don’t make a right… but, anyone with a functioning brain could tell you that if you’re in any spotlight and act like a total asshole, you’re going to get the same treatment back. And gain a really bad reputation… which will only further the problem.

    • LordKaiser

      Lol are you serious? He’s a wimp

    • Zancrow

      Strong is standing up against all odds, not backing out when things aren’t working out.

  • Dede Ogbe

    not sure what pisses me off most. The fact that he’s still looking down on people despite everything that has happened. Or the fact that he’s doing something so immature over something he himself is guilty of. What a prick.

  • Claude

    Good riddance. What a spiteful, insufferable little prick.

  • HeatPhoenix


  • Pyrofrost

    I will just quote myself from the Open Discussion thread:

    If you ask me, both Fish and Beer are pieces of shit, good riddance.
    As far as FEZ goes, nothing of value was lost.

  • Willgaea

    Is this the guy that was mad that his game was ruined on xbox? Errors and what not?

  • AnimusVox

    Edit: can’t delete comment. Previous comment was childish :(

  • LordKaiser

    So the catalyst for this mess was this:


    Well that happens when you’re a asshole and don’t think before talking. And he cancelled because he went emo over it. He brought it upon himself I say. Then he cancel it because he’s ego is hurt and he wants to take the fans of the 1rst game with him just to punish people who hurt his pride on twitter. Sorry guys but I can’t feel sorry about this. Downvote me all you want but this how I see it.

    • fallen

      I was looking for this — thanks for posting it.

      What a hypocrite. His comment to that Japanese fan are just as offensive as the Annoyed Gamer’s comments about him.

      • jujubee88

        No. Not really. Fish and that Japanese fellow where both in the same room, and Fish wasn’t deliberately trying to attack the guys character or his personal work.

        The other guy was saying “Fez sucks”, ‘BlowFish is tasty but lethal’, and using similar trash talk tactics to a camera.

        • LordKaiser

          Well that happens when a person don’t think before talking.

          • jujubee88

            That’s the thing. We all think before talking (in the literal sense). It’s the way we interpret the world and articulate ourselves that makes our impression towards our fellow man.

            Honestly, I don’t think Fish was doing anything bad there, it was more afterwards that tells us something about his character (I’m about to say, even that’s not horrible by the by).

            ….If the guy had been deeply offended or had his feelings hurt and asked for a personal apology (because he was so embarrassed or emotional or w/e) and Fish said something like, “yeah, well tough luck pal!” than that’s just being an apathetic jerk towards the guys feelings and his reputation/namesake. He didn’t do that (in fact, his follow up speech was a lot more insightful of his initial opinion)

            But I think the fact Fish also didn’t catch onto the body language of the Japanese chap being uncomfortable… yeeeaaah……

            Thinking on the whole situation though, I wouldn’t want Fish to adapt to being too black and white in his way of carrying his presentations or (even worse) being really boring in his games. Taking a lot of the swagger out of the guys presentation of himself and his game could wind up sucking for everyone.

            tl;dr Like I said before, Fish is like a punk sometimes and I think that people should just not take him and his stuff so literal all the time or be so serious towards everything he says and does. If we did that when punk came around, we would tell people not to support the music and kick those bands out of the country….(lol)

    • jujubee88

      That was no more harmful than going to Punk rock concert and asking the lead singer what he thought of your favorite band/music genre. In return, than the singer goes on the mic and says something a Punk would say (eg something disparaging and in a playful way a punk rocker would).

      Fish is a punk. He’s a punk rocker. And he rocks. We all do in our own small way, IMO! :^)

      p.s. I think Fish kinda wanted to apologize or felt embarrassed by both his initial words because the guy who asked it was clearly holding something in that Fish wanted to get out of the Japanese developer. A big reaction of some sort (or any sort of discourse) is what Fish wanted, basically. Erm, at least to me that’s what it looked like to me in that video.

  • Aiddon

    y’know, Marcus is a hack who said some stupid things…but Fish is just an asshole and this drama makes me respect him even less. What a freaking child.

  • bloodiOS

    "-we're working with sony on bringing FEZ to PSN and VITA -and we're also working with OUYA on port for that -iOs also highly probable"

    So,… it’s safe to say that there is no longer any chance of these potential ports happening, right?Source: reddit

    • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

      You can’t be for sure. Fish has thrown little fits before and then changed his mind in a few weeks. If it happened again, I wouldn’t be surprised one bit.

      • bloodiOS

        I sure hope not. I may not like the guy but the game itself is innocent, so I’d like the chance to experience it.

      • bloodiOS
    • Elvick

      Guess it would depend on if they were doing the port themselves, or if they brought on a 3rd party dev like Curve or whoever did the Hotline Miami ports.

      A lot of iOS ports are done by 3rd parties too.

      So if they already signed a deal, it’d be too late for him to bitch fit out on it. And I’m sure he wouldn’t care, since he’d get more money out of the game.

      But we don’t really know how far along any of those ports were, or if they were even started… or if they were going to be done by them, or a 3rd party.

      I hope it still comes out on PSN, would love to play it on my Vita.

  • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

    This isn’t a sure thing, not yet. Fish has thrown little fits before and then changed his mind in a few weeks. If it happened again, I wouldn’t be surprised one bit.

    In fact, I won’t even count out FEZ II yet. For the record, I never played the original, but I heard it was pretty good.

    As for Marcus. I personally have nothing against him. He did put out the offer for them to discuss this at Pax. I hope that happens.

    • LordKaiser

      I hope he learns from this and change for the better if he decides to return.

    • jujubee88

      Calling things like someone sees them is not something that impresses or excites me. Than again, nor is “calling it like I see it” my lifes core philosophy.

      Also, I haven’t played Fez yet but if it comes to VITA I’d check it out. ^^

  • Zackasaur

    Jeez, a guy makes one stupid comment about Japanese games (and I too despised that hyperbolic comment), and suddenly we’re all okay with outright bullying. Despicable.

    Office bullying, like playground bullying, is simply never okay. I don’t care that the victim made one stupid comment in the past; he’s being bullied. The thing he is -supposed- to do is get out of the abusive relationship. In this case, that relationship is with a mob of people in the industry who have decided he’s the kid they like to kick on the playground.

    It’s really saddening to see that a single comment has nearly every Japanophile dehumanising him. He IS human, and he IS being harassed. It’s not good for him.

    And you know what? Maybe quitting and moving to a more hospitable environment will be good for him. It’s a shame that bullies and the pettiest of gamers are driving him away, though. He has great talent.

    Think before you let yourself become the bully. I’m really disappointed, guys.

    • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

      I don’t think bullying is cool either, not at all. He didn’t just make one stupid comment though. It’s been a combination of things, these things have just built up and gave him a bad reputation.

      This is the worst part. He doesn’t do himself any favors with how he picks fights or responds to people. It’s destructive behavior all around.

      Two wrongs don’t make a right.

      The internet is pretty harsh most of the time. All the attacks and bullying is really built on his reputation, the things he has said, his actions, etc.

      The problem is, changing a bad reputation online is hard work. You have to try and start over. Even if you feel like you didn’t make a mistake, it’s best to apologize and move on from the negativity.

      I can’t speak much on how the guy acts at work, or when he is away from the web, away from the media. He might be great to work with, fun to hang out with.

      You can’t really blame others for attacking him, not when he seems to instigate this stuff. If he apologized and moved on, if he was not picking fights on twitter and crap, I think the bullying and attacks would start to subside.

      I guess what I’m saying is. This is a pretty complicated situation.

      • Zackasaur

        He doesn’t always handle things super gracefully, and that is largely a result of his troubling past. That doesn’t give us an excuse to bully him, though.

        In this case, this potential final straw, he didn’t instigate anything. He was quietly working on a game when this troll came out and tried to pick a fight with him. It’s not okay behaviour.

        Whether or not Fisher responds well to things is irrelevant right now. He is a victim, and he deserves a lot of apologies.

        We don’t deserve to play his games if this is how we treat him. It’s not fair, and there is more going on here than bad PR. You say he should handle things better, and that is true. However, it wouldn’t matter here, because there evidently are no second chances. He will get harassed over and over again. Either he learns to block out the emotional scarring, or he leaves to find better company.

        It makes me sad to see this.

        Now, if he does instigate something, then it’s all fair game (except for personal attacks). However, he did nothing to instigate this awful man, and personal attacks were flung in his sensitive direction.

        This is a situation where we have a villain and an innocent. The ~grand picture~ has lots of complicated history, but this particular incident is black and white. He did nothing wrong, and the troll attempted to humiliate and degrade him, for the stupid reason of not having commented on Microsoft’s policy before those policies are even made public.

        Sadly, I see no end to this without his leaving. I know well enough that bad people will fling insults at him for as long as he breathes. It doesn’t help that he’s already a person with a suicidal mindset/past.

        • Zackasaur

          I’d also like to clarify that his statements are often poorly worded and can be more offensive than what they really mean. That doesn’t help his situation.

          For example, while he made a comment about modern Japanese games failing to innovate (interestingly a statement which many Japanese devs agreed upon, even though I myself disagree), he has made other comments in the past.

          For example, when describing Fez:

          “But the look and feel of the game, that’s all Miyamoto and Miyazaki.”

          He’s a complex character people don’t even begin to try to understand.

          • Zackasaur

            I also think it’s worth noting that Fish learnt his lesson a long time ago. He hasn’t been making ill-thought-out comments, nor has he been offending anyone, for a long time. He did everything possible to get bullies to leave him alone.

            And they didn’t.

            • Dede Ogbe

              Well he blatantly hasn’t considering his comments.

              • Zackasaur

                He has been very considerate for a long time until just now.

                And I can’t really blame him for eventually snapping. Every single one of us would. He gets unwarranted insults, from personal attacks to death threats, every single day. It’s insane.

                • anti

                  The death threats are crossing the line, but the insults are warranted. Especially since Fish has absolutely no qualms about insulting his peers, his own customers, and other people’s work.
                  Fish even cheated other indies by abusing an indie award loophole by submitting Fez again for a second time even though he already won in a prior year. He cheated other indie start ups who were desperate for the $10K award money to finish polishing their games. Instead of being gracious, he gloated.
                  Fish is the type who will definitely laugh at you if you’re getting bullied, and furthermore I wouldn’t be surprised if he would help the bully.

            • anti

              I don’t think he learned anything. If he did, then he wouldn’t have said “Kill yourself” to anyone. That’s incredibly rude, and I don’t see how he deserves to be defended in any way. He even insults his own customers, especially when he bitched and moaned about people waiting for sales instead of paying full price.
              As for his “clarification” to the Japanese indie developer, I think he only did that because he received a lot of flak for his statement. If that’s truly what Fish believed, then he could’ve clarified it during the question period. Instead Fish relished at the humiliation he brought on the developer, while the poor guy was completely confused about what’s going on due to the language barrier. After all Fez is not innovative either, since it’s based on ideas and designs from three older Japanese games.
              I personally believe he’s just acting as a drama whore, mainly because he loves the negative attention. If he truly didn’t like the situation, he could’ve left the social networks a long time ago, or assign someone else to perform PR since he knew nobody liked him. You should know the old schoolyard statement, “Treat others as how you would like to be treated.” Since he likes bullying others, then he probably loves to be bullied.

          • DrForbidden

            I just want to give my 2 cents here. While I do feel kind of sorry for Fish, I do think that he pretty much brought the whole thing on himself. Saying that he’s a complex character is nothing but a cheap cop-out.

            Virtually ALL humans are complex, and guess what? The world doesn’t owe us a damn thing. Nobody owes us the time and effort taken to understand us except for our closest friends and families. Even then, they have the right to say, “Fuck it, I’m not dealing with any more dysfunctional bullshit from you” at some point.

            As I said, nobody owes us the patience, grief, and time to make relationships work. If anything, WE owe the world to project a persona that other people can easily communicate with and understand on a basic level. It’s a two-way street. If the persona we project is that of an arsehole…

            Well, guess what happens then?

            Saying that other people simply aren’t making the effort to understand the guy is just blame-shifting.

        • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

          I’m confused. I watched most of the Invisible Walls episode. Marcus bashes both Fish and Blow for acting like asshats to game informer.

          Someone at Game Informer contacted them both, asking about the recent announcement of self publishing on XB1.

          They basically both acted like assholes about it, which Marcus pointed out, it not good for the indie scene. Both Fish and Blow are well known (In a movie about indie games), they represent indie games, and they should remember that and be more respectful to the media. Beer said that he does respect them. He points out that it’s a two-way street, the media covers the games they make, both sides need each other. He says they should be grateful the media wants their opinions.

          Yes, he goes about it in his own way. He pokes fun at them, calls them names and stuff, but that’s how Marcus has always been. He even says he is an asshole. When he calls Fish an asshole, that’s rude sure, maybe even out of line, but he says he acts like an asshole most of the time. It’s how people perceive the man, which is a valid point.

          I’m not trying to defend Beer for the name calling and stuff. I just think he was bashing them for acting like assholes to the media.

          Was it rude? Yes. Does it deserve the response Fish gave? No. He told Marcus to kill himself. Joke or not, that’s much worse than Marcus calling him an asshole, and calling him a few names.

          Did Blow respond like that? No. I’m sure he gets his fair share of bullshit too.

          He didn’t just pick a fight with Fish. In fact, I’m not sure he really picked a fight with them. He attacked what they did, called them out for some bullshit, and said they should do a better job representing the indie scene.

          Did I miss something else? Did Marcus really attack him on something else?

          • Dede Ogbe

            Nope that’s basically it. I guess it was just an accumulation of a bunch of stuff that made Fish lose it and to be fair the guy gets an unnecessary amount of hate. Just look at the comments on their blog. Again Marcus was an ass to them no question for calling them names. But he was criticising them over their behaviour, even mentioning he respected them. now compare the reaction of both Blow and Fish to his comments. Fish crossed the line, big time. None of Marcus’s comments warranted such a response. https://youtube.googleapis.com/v/QuDqraUlUcM%26hl=en_US%26fs=1%26
            It was these comments that made me lose what ever sympathy i had for Fish. Feel really bad for Blow though.

          • Zackasaur

            Blow doesn’t get nearly the bullshit Fish does, but he’s also better composed.

            I don’t think they were jerks in any way not answering the question. They won’t answer such a question until they themselves actually know what is going on. The fact is that they don’t. Fish said as much.

            Marcus is an asshole, and he shouldn’t be proud of it. He also shouldn’t have that job because of it. Marcus had a lot of fun attacking the two of them, particularly Fish. He’s a bully, and it is not right to take the bully’s side in a dispute.

            As for the “kill yourself” thing, it’s a very natural and typical reaction from Fish after being bullied. It’s not something unusual for a victim to say in the heat of the moment. And, truth be told, Fish’s life might be a little easier if his bully -had- killed himself rather than get on air to harass people. That’s what it feels like to be the victim.

            But this isn’t about their pasts, nor about Fish’s reaction afterwards. This is about Marcus’s bullying. Nothing else is relevant to what I have to say here. Fish’s game cancellation is the build-up of a -lot- of hassles, and this is the straw that broke the camel’s back.

            • http://twitter.com/kazumalynx Zero

              Man, I can’t agree. I’ve been bullied, I know all about it. I would never wish death upon any of the people who bullied me. Not even in the middle of it, I would never want to kill someone, or hope they died. That’s going way too far.

              I just can’t agree that’s a natural thing. Someone with serious anger issues? Sure. I’ve been there before too.

              Yes, all the bullying Fish receives is not cool. Did he bring a lot of it upon himself, with his actions and words? The harsh truth is yes.

              I’m not taking sides. I’m trying to look at it from an outside perspective.

              I think both sides should just move on. It seems like this entire thing is being blown out of proportion imo.

              • Zackasaur

                We’ll just have to disagree on that one, then. To me, wishing death on an awful person isn’t wrong. If anything, it’s a wish for a better world. Of course, -saying- it is bad politics.

                That hardly matters, though, as we can’t determine how serious the comment was versus how much it was an emotional kneejerk reaction, common for angry victims.

  • Dede Ogbe

    Feel bad for the fans who were the real victims of this whole thing but none 4 Fish. The guy dug himself a hole and buried himself in it. Making comments like that on the internet is bad and doesn’t do anyone any favour, but it makes it worse is that he is throwing such a huge tantrum when he pretty much did the same thing to another developer anyway. Don’t dish it if you can’t take it. Still doesn’t mean am on the other guy’s side though. He’s an ass as well. Bullying isn’t cool.

    • jujubee88

      Yeah, his quitting games and moving away from media/press will suck for people who were looking forward to more of his future work and insights.

      And than there are his future fans and people pulling for him to make a good name of himself. Like me! :)

  • Zackasaur
    • Pyrofrost

      Fish is someone who can dish it out, but can’t take it. I absolutely despise people like that, and that’s putting it very mild.
      He is in no position to complain or cry about anything. You can defend him as much as you like, but it’s the price he pays for being a fucking dick.
      It sure as hell isn’t bullying, and I have no sympathy for the asshole.

      We obviously have different PoVs; so I’m not going to be debating on the issue when it will reach no resolution. I just wanted to state my PoV, as you have stated yours.

      Thank you, and have a nice day. ^_^

    • Claude

      They teach you in preschool to treat people the way you want to be treated.
      He is getting what he put out. That’s called retribution, not bullying.

  • Aldridge517

    Ooo, vid game drama.

  • PhoenixAutomatic~♪(๑ᴖ◡ᴖ๑)♪~

    This guy is just…………….Ugh!

    • Adam Meadows

      I appreciate that people may not like him, and they’re welcome to voice their opinions as to why, but can we at least attempt to keep it a little dignified? Doesn’t seem to right to call a person names for perhaps having an unlikable persona, only for that person to then adopt one themselves.

      If it was a game, fine. A person, no thanks.

      • PhoenixAutomatic~♪(๑ᴖ◡ᴖ๑)♪~

        All right, I understand.

        • Adam Meadows

          No worries :D thanks for understanding.

  • http://insanechronos.tumblr.com/ InsaneChronos

    I don’t care about this drama. I like Fez, and Fez 2 would be nice. Maybe Fish is wrong, maybe he shouldn’t behave himself like a cry-baby, but you, who bullying this guy, are wrong too. Or bullying someone is better than just ignoring him and have nice game?

    • Elvick

      Calling someone on their bullshit isn’t bullying.

      People are too quick to label everything “bullying” these days.

      Yes he’s a “victim” of some definite hateful comments, but he’s also made plenty himself. So to act like he’s Betty White, some lovable and kind person getting horrible treatment is ridiculous.

      • http://insanechronos.tumblr.com/ InsaneChronos

        Like I said, maybe Fish is wrong. But why others are acting like him? You are no different from Fish in this case.

        • Elvick

          Everything I’ve said on this topic is reasonable.

          Nothing Fish did was reasonable.

          I figured you’d be one of those people that fits in with my second sentence. Calling someone on their bullshit isn’t bullying. Let me just repeat that for you.

          People can call me on whatever bullshit I do, and I don’t cry and cut myself over the so-called “bullying”. (because it’s not bullying)

          • Zackasaur

            Marcus Beer didn’t call anyone on their bullshit.

            He just bullied. Blow and Fish had no reason to comment on a new Xbox policy before Microsoft even explained it.

        • LordKaiser

          Welcome to the internet!

      • Zackasaur

        Nobody’s acting like that. What is ridiculous is to look at this situation and pretend that the aggressor, Marcus Beer (an idiot who’s embarrassed himself in far worse ways than even Fish ever has) is innocent and Fish deserves ridicule here.

        Fish has, in fact, gotten control of himself and has been really good for quite a long time! He just finally flew off the handle now because one person can only take so much abuse. I imagine every person in these comments would have flown off the handle already.

        This isn’t about the past. This is about the present.

  • Zancrow

    What a baby.

  • Syltique

    “”You win,” says Polytron Corporation.”

    We really, really did.


    • Syltique

      And here’s a refresher on why I hate this guy’s guts, and celebrate his exit from the industry.


      What a horrible person. He loves to humiliate people, cut their work down to shreds (even an entire nation of people’s work, which is pretty racist), and then laughs about it and points out how superior he is.

      I can’t tell everyone enough how much I have zero sympathy for this guy. I hope he never makes a game again, and I hope he cries. A lot.

      • Syltique

        And if you’re still not convinced, look at how classy the guy is that he humiliated.


        Just a better person, on every level. And he was deeply hurt and embarrassed by his experience; flying out to GDC as a Japanese indie gamer, excited to collaborate and share ideas with other developers.

        Truly despicable, and Fish deserves everything he’s gotten.

  • PrinceHeir

    forgot to put this


    funny thing is that Fez is just a rip off of Cave Story and La Mulana.

    except removing all the challenges and making it artsy fancy with all that pretentious bullshit.

    Karma is soo fucking good

    • AnimusVox

      I find it hard to believe he really is that stuck up…but…there it is.


    • anti

      I find it rather ironic there are people demanding others to stop harassing or bullying Fish, meanwhile it’s completely okay for Fish to harass and bully others.

      • Zackasaur

        Bullying is never okay.

    • Sae-Won Yoon

      Y’know I honestly didn’t think too much of the guy, it just looked like some faggot bathing in his own pre-conceived notion of shit; envious beyond all belief hidden by denial.

      Roughly a year later, My hunch seems pretty spot on.

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  • Derpazu

    Well, honestly, Fish? Your games just suck.

    Nothing of value was lost.

    • Zackasaur

      He has only released one game. And it is excellent.

      • Derpazu

        Yes and it was awful. Thus nothing of value was lost.

  • Zackasaur
    • anti

      I know you’re trying to defend Fish vigorously, but acting human once out of the numerous bullying atrocities he has committed won’t erase his past that easily. He has caused enough frustration to the entire indie community and he continued to learn absolutely nothing from it. His recent spat was something he escalated by demanding someone to kill himself. It’s incredibly childish, and if he said something like that to a friend or family member of yours, I can bet you wouldn’t even consider about defending Fish.

    • http://enria.org/ Jahla Din

      Doesn’t matter.

      Other companies cancel their games because they lack funds, or find too many problems with the game itself.

      There are probably some people out there who were looking forward to playing his game but he decides to be a whiny ***** and cancel his game because of some cyber bullying. That’s kind of a slap to the face for all his loyal fans.

      I don’t know what this guy did to deserve all this hatred, but already because of this action, I can already imagine the dude’s probably a selfish prick.

  • Sae-Won Yoon

    How hilarious would it be if someone sent Phil one of those hentai peripherals just to piss him off?