Rumor: Microsoft buying PS4 non-mentions, more
posted on 06.09.13 at 11:36 PM EDT by (@salromano)
Mirror's Edge 2, new Prince of Persia due tomorrow, claims Cboat.

Over at gaming forum NeoGAF, one user, who calls himself Crazy Buttocks on a Train, is known to the community as a ‘games industry insider god.’ His statements have never been wrong, as far as I’m aware. And on the eve of E3 press conference day, he’s provided a few new “truthfacts,” as NeoGAF calls them.

Xbox One

  • Microsoft is actively buying PlayStation 4 non-mentions. If you don’t explicitly hear a third-party say “our game is exclusive to Xbox One,” confidently assume a PlayStation 4 version is available behind the scenes.
  • Stage two of Microsoft’s in-depth DRM messaging will arrive at Gamescom. There are no plans to support rental services. What was said last week was just so they could keep quiet.
  • The power of the cloud is phony, and was designed to mask Xbox One’s DRM. Microsoft approached third-parties, not the other way around. EA and Ubisoft are Microsoft’s biggest backers, but oddly enough, not Activision.
  • The DRM policy is worse than you know.
  • Mirror’s Edge 2 will debut at Microsoft’s press conference.
  • Prince of Persia will return for Microsoft’s press conference.
  • Special secret Phil Spencer game? World of Tanks from [Update: This is apparently referring to the secret Xbox 360 game Phil Spencer has teased.]
  • Xbox LIVE pay-wall set in stone for online play.
  • Dead Rising 3 and exclusive DLC for another Capcom game.

PlayStation 4

  • No online pay-wall for PlayStation 4. Unconfirmed.
  • Sony is very tight-lipped about its DRM policies.

Of course, until confirmed, whether it be tomorrow some day in the future, take these with a grain of salt.

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  • Zero

    I don’t even want to discuss the other stuff…

    I sure hope Mirror’s Edge 2 is not exclusive to Xbone.

    • GhostNomad

      ME gave me a bit of a headache at first but once I got into it, that game was a lot of fun. Considering I’m also a fan of PoP and DR, it’d be a true shame if they end up being exclusive as I’d be damned if I even consider getting an Xbone.

      • Budgiecat

        Not a fan of first person platforming. Depth perception and field of view can get tricky. Also part of the fun of Parkour is flipping not just running and jumping. What happens when you flip in first person? Oh yeah….either it’s not done or….the camera goes 360 bonkers…no thanks.

    • chroma816

      God, I would hate it if ME2 was only Xbox One. That was a great game, but there’s no way I’m going to support the One just for a single game.

    • Sal Romano

      From what I’ve seen from other GAF insiders, it’s not.

  • InsaneChronos

    >> Microsoft is actively buying PlayStation 4 non-mentions <<
    So this is where that billion goes.

  • Shadow

    Microsoft sure is firing a lot of cheap-shots this gen.

  • new_tradition

    Would be ironic if the money spent on the non-mentions goes towards developing exclusive features for the PS4 version

    • Nate

      That’s funny

  • Zohar127

    This article made me think of this. May seem oddly appropriate:

  • RyoonZ


    • DrForbidden

      Because truths aren’t factual enough and facts aren’t truthful enough, here come the TRUTHFACTS!
      The fact they would have to resort to calling them that means that there is a pretty high chance of bullshit.

      • Sal Romano

        I wouldn’t think that. Cboat is GAF’s most trusted insider. He’s verified by the mods and no one ever really questions what he says. That’s not to say you should instantly believe him (many do, though), but keep what he’s said in mind come announcement time.

        • DrForbidden

          In which case, I don’t understand why they need to invent a ridiculous word to refer to the guy’s leaks. It seems like it’s just a way to cover their collective asses when some of the ‘truthfacts’ turn out to be untrue.

          BTW, Sal, shouldn’t you be in bed by now? You’ve got a long day ahead…

          • Sal Romano

            I think it’s something Cboat invented. He types like he’s drunk to avoid coming up in search engines.

            And yeah, hitting the hay in a minute. Just a bit anxious for tomorrow, lol.

            • DrForbidden

              I see. Thanks.

              Sweet dreams, Sal!

  • bloodiOS

    Microsoft is actively buying PlayStation 4 non-mentions. If you don’t explicitly hear a third-party say “our game is exclusive to Xbox One”, confidently assume a PlayStation 4 version is available behind the scenes.

    Why… what a smart way to spend your budget!
    If I didn’t know better, I might even say that you’re desperate, Microsoft ^^

    • Elvick

      Not much more of a waste than timed exclusivity that MS pays for a lot. A lot of those, early on in the generation were “hush hush”.

      Then as more and more “exclusive” content (or games) came to PS3, it was pretty obvious so they basically just admitted to what was timed and what was actually an exclusive.

  • Zohar127

    I ain’t no lawyer, but something about buying out third parties to NOT mention your competitors sounds like it should be illegal.

    • Sal Romano

      Not really. Both companies do it with advertising all the time.

      If you see a Call of Duty commercial, it will likely only show an Xbox logo at the end. Back when Assassin’s Creed II and Brotherhood were coming out, I remember seeing commercials that only showed the PlayStation logo.

      • Zohar127

        I suppose you’re right about that but it just seems different in this sense. Having a commercial, let’s say Sony funded it, makes sense that they won’t show the Xbox logo.

        Paying off people in a backroom not to talk publicly about your competition during a trade show seems different to me, but it may just be a matter of perception.

        At least Nintendo doesn’t have to worry about third party shenanigans! ZING! You can have that one for free. :p

      • TetsuyaHikari

        Paying for advertising is one thing, but paying people to NOT show advertising for your competition is another thing entirely.

      • Elvick

        Not really the same thing. Sony / MS pay to have the advertising of the game focus on them, sometimes (always?) even doing the ad themselves. This helps to also advertise their system and it’s price.

        That game is already (or going to be soon) on shelves so anyone with eyes can see it’s not exclusive.

        This is just paying to ignore the fact that a PS4 version is in development at all. Leading people to think that the PS4 won’t have it, when it will.

        Now obviously we’ll find out eventually, but it’s still ridiculous (if true) that they would stoop so low.

      • Sardorim

        Actually there’s a difference between an advertised commercial that you’re paying for to have your logo than outright paying people to pretend another version for the PS4 doesn’t exist at all. It’s very sketchy grounds and if it’s true Microsoft could face lawsuit(s) as it’s anti-competitive to do something so blatant as such and is pretty much bribery which isn’t legal.

  • lancer205

    Crazy Buttocks on a Stick?

    • Sal Romano

      Silly name, I know. It’s Cboat for short. I believe it’s all for privacy reasons. He also types like a drunken idiot so that people can’t easily search what he’s written.

      • zweii

        I’m pretty sure its Crazy Buttocks on a train.

        • Sal Romano

          Dear God, I’m terrible right now.

          • Zohar127

            I believe you may have confused him with Jose Jalepeno on a Stick lmao. I thought it was Train too but I figured I’d keep my mouth shut.

            • Sal Romano

              I welcome corrections. Especially in my moments of stupidity!

  • Tetsu

    All I can say is wow…

  • TwinTails

    It’s official, the Xbox is “Xboned”. >_<

  • King-Prodigy-X

    *Gets Mad Like Kratos*

    But OT, this is just disgusting what M$ is doing.

    “Mirror’s Edge 2 will debut at Microsoft’s press conference & Prince of Persia will return for Microsoft’s press conference.”

    Why couldn’t EA & Ubisoft save those for their press conference and not take M$ dirty money.

    “Special secret Phil Spencer game? World of Tanks from”

    LOL!!! Nothing Special

    “Microsoft is actively buying PlayStation 4 non-mentions. If you don’t explicitly hear a third-party say “our game is exclusive to Xbox One,” confidently assume a PlayStation 4 version is available behind the scenes.”

    “Stage two of Microsoft’s in-depth DRM messaging will arrive at Gamescom. There are no plans to support rental services. What was said last week was just so they could keep quiet.”

    “The power of the cloud is phony, and was designed to mask Xbox One’s DRM. Microsoft approached third-parties, not the other way around. EA and Ubisoft are Microsoft’s biggest backers, but oddly enough, not Activision.”

    M$ just never learns. No wonder the The Witness Jonathan Blow has been snapping at M$

    “Dead Rising 3 and exclusive DLC for another Capcom game.”

    Kind of expected that since the first one was exclusive to them.

    • Sardorim

      World of Tanks is actually very popular in Europe.

      • King-Prodigy-X

        In Europe, Xbox is an American Console.

  • Bryce Blalex Douglas

    Wow if all of this is true and Sony sadly does have DRM on the level of M$ then it’s official this is the ending of the console gaming industry as we know it.

    • DrForbidden

      Uhm, DRM has always been around. Why do you say that Sony doesn’t have DRM on its platforms? If there are any restrictions in using content, then it is arguably a form of DRM.

      The crux of the matter is whether the DRM adopted is invasive or inconveniencing to the majority of users, or if it’s something that’s largely acceptable to both consumers and developers.

      • Kazriko Redclaw

        Actually that’s true. Sony has technology that COULD be used to prevent used games sales built into the PS3. The Discs can be watermarked with unique codes, and those codes used to lock a disc to one console or account. So far, they didn’t use that method for PS3 games because it’d require the ridiculously annoying approach that the Xbox One has for verification.

        (They did use it for PSVita games that were crossbuy from PS3 discs though.)

        • DrForbidden


          Even limiting digital content to a specific account on two registered consoles is arguably a form of DRM. DRM is not always evil. When it’s not being abused, it protects the developers from getting screwed by pirates. The problem has always been invasive and abusive DRM that destroy consumer confidence and erode their trust.

      • Bryce Blalex Douglas

        I should have phrased it better. The type of DRM on the PS3 was not harmful or largely inconveniencing the consumer. Arguably I’d love no DRM but that’s not possible. What M$ is doing with their DRM however, is beyond acceptable. When I said I hope Sony doesn’t have some DRM crap, I meant to the level of M$ or anywhere close to that.

        • Kazriko Redclaw

          True, though I wouldn’t put it past them to implement a offline, codeless version of the day 1 dlc that you often see bundled with games. Like the Catwoman one from Arkham City. They have the patents available to do that.

          I also wouldn’t put it past them to allow some of their more customer unfriendly publishers to use it to limit used games. The solution to that is simple though. Don’t buy those games on any platforms and maybe they’ll get the hint. Of course, effectively getting gamers to not buy a game they want tends to be tough.

          They’ve said they won’t do online required drm, but that still leaves some nasty stuff they could do, sadly. I’m hoping for the best though.

        • DrForbidden

          Ah, I see. In that case, I agree unreservedly.

  • Raiu

    So let me get straight..

    Microsoft is giving away money to third parties so they can get them to shut up and stay away from ps4 for the time being, just to lessen the ps4 lineup and gain the upper hand… The money they rather not use it for funding new games that can make their new console and E3 lineup more attractive to gamers…

    I don’t know what to believe anymore…

    • bloodiOS

      Just sit back and start munching popcorn. You’ll find it more enjoyable that way.

  • rurifan

    Point #3 about “power of the cloud for games” just masking the invasive always-online-check DRM is very believable. It was extremely strange to hear them talk about standing up 300,000 new servers for some vague concept of cloud-computing in games.

    But 300,000 servers makes all kinds of sense when you think that they have a huge interesting in preventing a day-1-DRM-server meltdown like PC gamers are familiar with.

    Sounds like MS is already deeply committed to being the bad guy. There’s no hope of a reverse course now. Let’s hope the backlash is loud and harsh at E3 so Sony decides to take the high road.

    • rurifan

      It warmed my heart to hear the thunderous applause at E3 when Sony announced the PS4 will have no anti-consumer garbage. :-)

  • shogunknight

    Calm down, calm down…everything is going to be okay. Less than 12 hours to go for MS and 24 hours for Sony. Everything is going to be oookaaayy (i pray)

  • Karl Josef

    with Gaikai technology in PS4, we don’t know if it will require payment for online use.

  • Learii

    MS like to play dirty so they can always win over sony whatever is take even they have to pay $1 billion

  • Ladius

    While this isn’t an uncommon practice, it would be sad if Microsoft felt the need to do this on such a large scale. I am a multiplatform user, but I don’t appreciate the arrogance they’re showing between this and their anti-consumer practices. We can only hope Sony won’t follow their example.

  • duckmysick

    It really doesn’t matter what they show for me… M$ can kick rocks and everyone gamers and non-gamers are talking PS4. Dead rising 3 is so last gen. I’m really pissed at insomniac if they go xbone only.. I will never buy another one of their games in my life again. Ever, no ratchet no nothing.. This M$ crap is making people look like lambs for the slaughtering. I can’t do it. PS4 don’t NEED to be I’m good with that.

  • Raiyu

    “DRM policy is worse than you know.”

    How can it get any worse than it already is? Is this possible?

    • ギャビン

      Maybe the used games thing is bull shit.

    • Raiu

      Anything is possible… Unfortunately…

  • ddsfan2

    Requesting non-mentions, although not a big deal for me personally, is pretty lame, and lazy. I see this pretty often, particularly on the games segment of Conan O’Brien, where they make joke reviews of 360 games that are typically available on PS3/360/PC. They always show the 360 case specifically, and make no mention of other versions, and never review anything not available on the 360.

    Sony does this on occasion too, but it’s no less irritating, just less frequent. Sadly, I’d wager that non-mentions are an effective way of getting more sales.

  • $3582264

    dead rising 3… how utterly disappointing

  • Alos88

    By non-mentions, do they mean they are paying publishers to not mention the other versions of a game rather than outright pay for exclusivity?

    • Raiyu

      Yes, thats what it means. A PS4 version should exist but they’re not going to say it is.

  • AbberJam Tarkin

    Although “rumour” all of this is totally believeable. Make a difference, use your voice to vote against Xbone – #resetxbox

  • Anime10121

    If true, and knowing Microsoft tactics it more than likely is, they are the epitome of fail, and I seriously hope the One fails harder than the Sega Saturn did financially.

  • HassanJamal

    Really scummy if this all is true :L

  • Locksus

    No, just no. I don’t even want to know more.

  • SchlockWorship

    I cuddle my Alienware R4 more lovingly with every next gen announcement… <3

  • kuusou yume

    I don’t think third parties mention the other platform while on stage for a specific one. I think they only mention it when their 3rd party game is exclusive. I might be wrong.

  • bldudas

    If this is true, it’s Microsoft so it most likely is, then that is pretty low.

  • MasterSensei

    What did Microsoft say about E3 again? “Were going to kill PlayStation”… yeah, I don’t see that happening… ever.

    • TheRealTimewarp

      What is it with the games industry and killing? I’m going to be the Halo killer! I’m going to be the Playstation killer! Some of the guys in this business are really violent

      • MasterSensei

        I know right? Sony was being cheeky with the way they replied to Microsoft but they just responded with violence! (albeit in a kind of childish? and friendly way)

  • xMCXx

    Oh, man, Gamescom!
    I was there last time and it was pretty meh.
    This year, though, should be pretty exciting.

  • Sieghardt

    Absolutely offensively disgust practice, how about you take that money and make some actual ganes out of it instead? Or is an honest effort anathema to your policies this gen?

  • Bryce Blalex Douglas

    So far at least two things are confirmed