Microsoft drops Xbox One DRM, mandatory internet
posted on 06.19.13 at 04:51 PM EDT by (@salromano)
Xbox does 180 in response to 'consumer feedback.'

Microsoft has done a complete one-eighty on its Xbox One policies, dropping its DRM restrictions and mandatory internet connection.

The company has confirmed the following changes:

  • An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
  • Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

Due to these changes, disc-based games require the disc be in the tray when playing.

Downloaded games can also be played offline, but cannot be shared.

Microsoft also said that Xbox One games will have no regional restrictions.

“Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback,” Miicrosoft IEB president Don Mattrick said. “I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

“You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.”

Sony previously announced it wouldn’t restrict used games or require an internet connection for PlayStation 4.

Update: Microsoft has confirmed these changes will require a day-one patch, and that, as a result, the game sharing library (between 10 people) is something “we won’t be able to deliver at launch.”

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  • Raoni Marques

    It just got damn better.

  • Raiyu

    Maybe now I can buy an Xbox sometime down the line

  • MosquitoLemon

    Seriously, I envision some secret high-level meeting between Sony and Microsoft execs where they were like, “OK, we totally agree on the always-online, no-used games thing, right?” And the Sony exec was all, “Of course!” with his fingers crossed behind his back.

    Because really, there is no way on Earth a company like Microsoft could think they could get away with this as the lone player in a market that they hadn’t exactly cornered.

  • Chippy

    Once a TV, Always a TV

  • Bob Obb

    Holy shit… gamers won.

    • CirnoTheStrongest

      Is what they want you to think

      • TetsuyaHikari

        You truly are the strongest.


  • SuperLuigi

    I am happy for the people who want this system now. I am jealous of not having killer instinct and I support people who support that game/system now. Good job Microsoft.

  • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

    Still needs internet to set it up :

    Also,I will NOT be buying the one,I was a proud owner of the Xbox and 360 but after all of this I will not be buying their product.

  • MogCakes

    #PS4NoDRM #XboxOneNoDRM #ConsumersWinBitches

  • CirnoTheStrongest

    This really feels like a plot where they never planned on any of this in the first place…

  • Luna Kazemaru

    still DOA tho.

  • DarthBrian

    LOL Microsoft. Nice try trying to screw over consumers. But now we know you want to. Do you think we’ll come crawling back now? Not me, that’s for sure. LOL Microsoft.

  • bloodiOS

    Honestly, they would be rather stupid to not do this. That said, why could they not have done this earlier like, you know, at E3, where good PR is essential?

    • KnifeAndFork

      Because they probably assumed Sony was going to do the same thing

  • Sieghardt

    Good news for those buying one, however I personally feel all trust has been lost. It will, aptly enough, be a cloud that hangs over them for years to come.

  • Alkaid

    Ya know, that might be harsh, but to think “gamers won” is really stupid in that matter. First of all there is still the “everything can be changed by microsoft at any time” paragraph.

    Second. It’s not so difficult to believe that they either backpaddled because of the backlash or because of the bad pre-orders.

    Third. What if all of this was a ruse to begin with? As some here already said since microsoft is a company as any other, and those are based on money… It’s really not such a far stretch that they planned all this to begin with so that people would think “hey we achieved something”. That is of course just a thought. But if you think about all that what actually happend, it doesn’t really seem like a real achievment for gamers.

    Edit. Sure it’s speculation and such but… seeing something like this from a company that seemed to be *dead set* on pushing those regulations through … all that revising seems really unbelievable and even more: less trustworthy.

    • Bob Obb

      You’re being too cynical, this is great news any way you look at it. Yesterday there was no chance in hell I’d buy an Xbone no matter what exclusives it gets, now I can actually enjoy those exclusives when it’s a reasonable price.

      • Alkaid

        Could be, I can’t deny that.
        And you’re free to do that either way, since a “reasonable price” is also a very relative matter.

    • CirnoTheStrongest

      Third option is really the most likely. This is way too staged. And people are eating right into it :(

      Ah well, I did want competition, so this is a good thing

      • Alkaid

        Uhh Cirno! :D
        *cough* sorry, fandom.

        Well maybe that was the gist of all of this, Microsoft needed a way to put themselves into “better light”. That could be one method.

        Yupp. Competition is certainly a good thing, but not if it’s devoid of any trust. We’ll see if Microsoft keeps it that way or not, only time will tell us that.

  • Bobby Jennings


  • bleach630

    I think there is some kind of trap in here, this is M$ after all

  • Impressionnant

    Just when Microsoft was leaving the industry to let Nintendo and Sony fight it out (and produce great games on both sides) they just had to creep back in. This is the worst news I’ve heard this year.

    • Aly Hesham

      why ? its good news for the gamer..think about how things would if MS succeeded WITH their old policy…A disaster.Sony and Nintendo still have the advantage price wise.This is good news.

      • Impressionnant

        I would’ve preferred if it forced Microsoft out of the industry.

        • Aly Hesham

          What if they did well with their old policies ? You know people would still buy the console out of loyalty

          • BigDix

            Xbox doesn’t have half the customer loyalty of the Sony and Nintendo fanbases. If negative word of mouth could’ve reached a real critical mass that even penetrated all the way through to the frat boys and such… Who knows….

            • Lelouch Vi Britannia

              good point there but i’m still sticking with PS4 & Wii U. MS hasn’t convinced me in any way whatsoever.

    • BigDix

      Mmmhmm… I think every doubt and misgiving I have about modern Sony flows from the fact of how hard they tried to dance to Microsoft’s beat over the course of the last generation. The way they were forced to compete with them did not produce the usual “competition makes everything better!” result people like to chirp. It dragged a great brand down, most definitely.

      I feel it was still extremely wishful thinking to suppose MIE could be buried by this once and for all, but hey, it was a shot. I really never cared that much about all the other shit to begin with, myself. Bottom line is 360 was just bad news for the home console space, and now One will likely continue the legacy of shit.

  • confused_wanderer

    HAHAHA gamers FTW. Microsoft you can’t walk over us at all!!

  • Joshua ‘Near’ River’z

    LOL this is suprising

  • Sal Romano

    Games matter again!

    I want to play Below and Quantum Break.

    • Alkaid

      Uh yeah Quantum Break might be interesting, I’m a huge Remedy fan, so I’ll definitely look into that one. On the other hand, it could also be released on PC some day. So .. hmm~

    • Impressionnant

      How can you play a TV show?

    • kiri25

      Games matter yes, but i’m not willing to support a company that treats its costumers like shit with lies and overpriced products.

      The HDD’s for 360 were so overpriced it should have been a crime, and forcing me to pay for live to enjoy stuff i alrdy pay for like netflix truly dirty.

      Dont be shocked if a yr after release these policies starts to creep back in thru updates.

    • KnifeAndFork

      D4 too

  • dior

    The fact that they considered this shit in the first place is reason enough to not trust them. it’s way too late, sorry M$.

  • Bryce Blalex Douglas

    I like that they smoothly put in there it still needs an internet connection.

  • BossTuff

    Also, this article fails to mention that it is also now region free. Quoted from

    “Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console — there will be no regional restrictions.”

    • Sal Romano

      Sankyuu. Missed that.

      • BossTuff

        No sweat. :)

    • dior

      wow region free? I won’t lie.. that kind of got me somewhat excited, however I feel like at this point they don’t have enough support in Japan for it to matter. Hell, it isn’t even releasing in Japan next year so there really is no point in it being region free imo lol

  • LordKaiser

    So the Xbone finally grew some meat.

  • rainelee

    Meh. Still getting a PS4.

  • $30632660

    I need some clarification.Does this mean that 3rd party publishers/developers can’t put drm on their games like they can on PS4? If so, then the only issue I only had with the Xbox besides no exclusives I care for was having to pay for Xbox Live.

    • CirnoTheStrongest

      The only DRM that can be put on PS4 games would be Online Passes.

  • Marco Tinè

    The “trustworthy” argument looks weak to me: a lot of people were simply waiting for something like this to consolidate their Xbox One buying intent. Now the field is gonna even out despite the quirks (price difference, weaker hardware etc.), as the software lineup gains much more relevance.

  • Tracy

    It’s still 500 USD.



  • Luna Kazemaru

    Ok so if they can just cut it off now what the fuck is stopping them from cutting it back on?

  • GhostNomad

    Microsoft’s plan.

    1)Piss people off.
    2)’Change’ so that people think they won.
    3)Larger number of sales due to ‘listening’.
    4)Bring back DRM about one month into Xbone’s life cycle after the initial spike in sales slows down.

  • Sae-Won Yoon

    Had they said this BEFORE their announcement and E3, i would be inclined to not point at them and laugh.

    But I wil instead point at them and laugh for being prompted to do so this late.

    Drop Kinect, make it optional and I may be inclined to have a change of heart.

  • abcmocca .

    still giant inferior hardware with spy kinnect.

  • Cry_Zero

    I hope that no one is falling for microsofts games. Thats what they want you to believe. And then theyll add that shit with a “new update” I wouldnt trust microsoft. And even if they would drop drm, kinects still watching you

  • Charlie

    Too late.

  • new_tradition

    I knew there was something fishy about the XBOX One’s initial reveal info. No way Microsoft didn’t know this would piss people off.

    I am surprised about being region free. That’s honestly surprised me O_O

    • rurifan

      I think that is a reference to the prior region-lockout of DRM activation. From what I understand, games still have to activate online once per console to play offline. His statement is you’ll be able to do that from anywhere with no IP restrictions.

      As far as region locks on games, that was optional on the 360 and a number of games were region free. (For some reason most Japanese games were locked to Japan … xenophobic jerks?)

  • xMCXx

    Well, that’s what they had to do to save the little bit of face they still have.
    But it still has Kinect.

  • shogunknight

    Wow, well played microsoft. Nice damage control, next gen is going to be interesting

  • TetsuyaHikari

    Glad you finally got your shit together, but it still doesn’t help that it wasn’t until Sony kicked your ass for you to finally realize you needed to make some changes. Pfft… Listening to “consumer feedback” my ass. It’s funny how these changes were only implemented AFTER E3, despite people complaining about their features well BEFORE then.

    • KnifeAndFork

      The thing is people will forget E3 2013 over time and Microsoft will bounce back now that they got rid of this crap.


      I’m willing to bet that they STILL would have made money because there are a lot of ignorant people out there that would have still bought their system unknowing of those DRM policies….

      • TetsuyaHikari

        Unless you mean 10 years or something by “over time”, then yeah… No. Microsoft was humiliated at E3 this year and it was during an unveiling of Sony’s newest console. I doubt this will be forgotten ANY time soon, lol.

        It’s hard to forget an ass beating THAT bad.

        • KnifeAndFork

          Nobody knows what an MSX is

          • TetsuyaHikari

            Ummm… I do? I played Ys and Metal Gear on one, lol.

  • simz

    God is Good

  • Zackasaur

    They’ll still never see a cent of my money, and I’ll always be prepared to advise friends and family away from them.

    They’ve shown their hand.

  • bldudas

    They just saw how much money they would lose.

  • Zero

    If this is really all true, then this is great news. I sure hope they stick to it. I don’t want them to try and slowly re introduce these policies in the next few years.

    I can’t help but be a bit skeptical here. I think we can list tons of reasons for the sudden change, but it’s going to take even more to fully earn back the consumers trust. The negativity around the Xbox brand will not vanish over night. With that said, this is a very good start.

    • kiri25

      With MS i can see them slowly re-introducing this zero to get ppl rdy for the XBOX TWO, so when they announce all these restrictions again gamers wont be pissed b/c it was slowly re-ibtroduced to the XBONE.

  • kiri25

    Listening??? Really MS??? If you were listening to us gamers you would’ve never had considered DRM or always connected.

    The fact is you saw your pre-ordered sales sucked and had no choice but to change. I for one am not fooled into believing this “Gamers Won” non sense b/c if you had been listening such policies would’ve never been considered.

    So I say no thank you to your BS lies and will be happily supporting Sony and Nintendo only, the 2 companies that truly do listen us gamers.

  • xMCXx

    “You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with
    games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these
    games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also
    important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time,
    anywhere in the world.”
    First they try to fuck us all in the ass and then they come crawling back and try to sugarcoat it!
    Kinda pathetic.

    • DrForbidden

      MS: “Just let it happen. It’ll be over soon.”

  • Luna Kazemaru

    Xbox DRM reversal is a day one patch so that means its still on there most likely i bet and they will try something later.

  • MrKappa

    LMAO! Wow, this really is a huge 180. I can’t believe they thought this DRM and “always online” crap would even fly. Now they have to eat crow and can these “features” because the Xbone really was looking to sell like absolute crap.

  • LastBoss

    I’ve been gaming 30 yrs, and I used to have conversations about how the internet would ruin video games. I’m so proud of the gaming community coming together on this situation, to fight for their entertainment.

    On a side note, I will not buy an X1, simply because MS, still finds it funny that they promote the same three games biannually. The whole buying of timed exclusives, so other systems have to wait down the road. This practice stagnates, and stunts the industry.

    Even after how much I want to get a X1, I can’t shake the feeling that MS, still doesn’t care about gamers, and treats the industry as a side project to make money.

    If you disagree, fine, but drop your 2¢, before leaving.

    • KnifeAndFork

      You are right.

    • LastBoss

      For the record, I am super disappointed in MS, for not funding, a superb experience with Too Human & Alan Wake. My stance is for the gamers and developers, to thrive.

  • [Guillem ]

    Hope all this people that had blamed MS policies don’t forget it from here to november,…

  • epy

    Hope it sticks this time around, but for now, the consumer… wins? Still only getting a PS4 and Wii U eventually.

  • Eakapol Jarueksathitwong

    “This is a big change, consumers don’t always love change, and there’s a
    lot of education we have to provide to make sure that people
    understand.” Microsoft Xbox Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer Yusuf Mehdi

  • Tetsu

    Too little, too late.

    Maybe if, in a few years, we see like a $200 price drop and your system isn’t flooded with some new form of DRM, then maybe.

    But till then, good luck with your first year MS, you’ll need it.

  • Sevyne

    Still not getting a penny from me. They knew this was not a welcome thing long before E3 and told us to “Deal with it”. The only reason they backed down wasn’t because they were “listening to feedback”, it’s because they were watching their wallets getting thinner. Knowing that they had ill intentions from the start to control MY purchased good is enough for me to never give them a cent out of my wallet.

    Edit: Looks like I fished me up a stalker. :)

    • Nhiroz

      Oohrah brother!

    • M Syafiq Malik

      Amen BRO!! or…Sis?

  • kiri25

    With these new changes MS should also change the name of the XBOX ONE to the XBOX 180 lol

    • DrForbidden

      Haha! Great one, dude.

  • rurifan

    It’s great to see how consumers can vote with their wallets to temper the greed of big corporations.

    But don’t believe it’s a total victory. Hidden in there is the statement of a “one time online activation” for games — Microsoft still has to grant you permission to play the games you own on any console.

  • AdamBoy64

    I don’t know what to think.
    This is good news, but I’m suspicious. Really sus.

  • KnifeAndFork

    Damnit Microsoft stick to your guns so you can go out of business like a Scarface boss

    • xMCXx

      Say hello to my massive VCR-shaped friend!

  • Calvin Chikelue

    Great news but I’m still out of the MS camp. This whole farce has left a bad, bad taste in my mouth. The arrogant bolstering about how their own policies would “benefit the consumer” only to prove that everything spewed from anyone connected to MS for the past month was all malarkey in the end. Wasn’t going to buy either console at launch; will be holding off on the One specifically as long as I see fit.

  • Vyse_the_Stampede

    I for one will still go the Nintendo and Sony way instead. The only reason they are doing this is because of fear of low sales (if you don’t consider the conspiracy theory around), which ended up making the higher-ups “force” Don Mattrick into (apparently) changing the initial plans. Mentality and beliefs don’t just change overnight.

    For those that were not going to buy the XBox One, but are now considering do it because of these news, have in mind that the freedom that a day-one patch gives you, a day-two patch can take out… and after you have your collection settled in the system, it won’t be that simple to just say “No!” to Microsoft, and walk away.

    • Calvin Chikelue

      No joke. Everyone considering the X1 should check to see if that portion in their writing of “changing their policies whenever necessary” is still there.

      • DrForbidden

        I can guarantee you that it will be. Of course, Sony will also have such a clause, but at least they didn’t start out with efforts to screw consumers from the very beginning.

  • $30632660

    If Microsoft can change their policies, maybe Sony can offer a basic online multiplayer element alongside the superior playstation plus.

    I don’t care about those “free” games they have on there, I can get the “discounts” from used games, and everything else I don’t care for.I just want to be able to play my games online.If you just restricted that to Sony only titles, then I would be fine with that because I don’t care about their First Party Games.

  • DarthNemesis

    Still not buying and the policy cans till be implemented any time they feel like it.

  • Kurisu Makise

    I’m kind of sad that you won’t be able to share digital based games and install off the disc as a result, to be honest. Was there honestly no way to implement the “good” ideas without the 24hr nonsense? I mean I’m happy the DRM is removed but the penalities now kinda suck. Especially since the Family Share is delayed too.

    Oh well, this alone isn’t quite enough to get a purchase yet. Microsoft will need more exclusives that aren’t 1st and 3rd person shooters. Essentially, they need more Crimson Dragon’s, heck if they allow him to make an RPG out of the franchise, then that’s a step in the right direction. Rule of thumb, corporations should work hard to earn your money, customer is king after all.

    • Warboss Aohd


    • Elvick

      They’re probably just not able to do it/had no actual work on it done yet and are just using this as an excuse to save face on a delay caused by incompetence.

      • Kurisu Makise

        Update, No Family Plan…=( I’m disappointed. That was the saving grace when DRM was around. Goodness, don’t U-turn and then cancel out your good benefits. AT LEAST let my digital purchases be shared, come on Microsoft; meet us half way to the all digital future, a little good will is needed on your part right now ~_~

        • LordKaiser

          They do that to “punish” us and make us feel bad about not going with their plans.

          I rather be on a system that rewards people rather than punish people.

          • Kurisu Makise

            Sadly if they wanted to punish gamers, then they wouldn’t have let leak the true details concerning the Family plan. 60 minute sharing, come on that’s not true sharing at all. Someone write a book about How not to Market an upcoming product with Microsoft as the primary example, this is a new low (as if they could sink any lower).

  • KnifeAndFork

    “Microsoft has confirmed these changes will require a day-one patch”


    That guy on the nuclear sub won’t be able to patch his console!

    “I don’t even know what it means to be on a Nuclear Sub…” – M$ chief Don Mattrick *farts in your general direction*

  • Micheal Scott

    Im still doing PS4
    because nobody tell me how to use my console

  • CeroSuerte

    This is beyond pathetic, when a company throw its core believes and model for the sake of sales.. Granted all these companies are for profit. However, sony and nintendo they try put a spin on it with all the talk about costumer preferences and choice and how they’ve been maintaing that for years .

    As for MS, this move right here shows that the company are scared shitless about their pockets and the minute the buyers spoke against them they dropped all what they claim to believe and value for the sake of their sales.

    Its extremely difficult to trust § respect such company at all, all i can think of is that now this is a patch, the minute they think they achieved enough sales they can try to find a way to screw users again with an update.

    • DrForbidden

      While I agree with you that MS can still screw over consumers at any time by patching the patch itself or ‘rolling back’ the patch, I have the opposite idea about repectability. I see capitalism as a competition/cooperation model between manufacturers and consumers. It’s a good thing when consumers force manufacturers to back down and change policies over what they perceive as unfair tactics. It reasserts that consumers still hold part of the relationship powers in their hands, even with the constant barrage of power abuses that major corporations hold. In that sense, it indicates that the consumer-citizen isn’t lovingly sucking big corporations’ balls, unlike our governments.

      • CeroSuerte

        I also agree with you, however the competition/cooperation part MS itself didnt have that with xbox one, the consonle was based on the idea that the ppl been calling “deal with it”
        And all the talk about DRM went out the window when ppl were angry and been saying stuff like (they are not getting my money) in every blog, site or social media platform.

        What MS have with their costmers is a relationship based on fear, because with a simple survy in the r&d period years ago u could’ve found out the ppl would hate this entirly. Yet they didnt care, the region restriction was always been there now when ppl wouldn’t even buy the console they even gave that up, this is company values nothing but profit

  • whiteferrero


    • Learii

      why ppl called it 180 I don’t get it

      • whiteferrero

        ahehe. it’s from the expression ‘to do a 180’ which means to do a turn-around/reversal.

  • りんごタルト@エスカのアトリエ

    I’m not affected by this as I have no plans of getting an Xbone.

    • Ritsujun

      Xbone doesn’t have Meat’s fav galge.

  • MrRobbyM

    You know, Miicrosoft actually has a chance at *winning* next gen now, though I hate to admit it.

    Either way, I still have no plans on buying an Xbox One. A company that pushed DRM that hard to begin with, weather they didn’t end up using it or not, doesn’t sit well with me. It’s that reason I haven’t bought and Ubisoft or EA game in a while, other than a select few.

    Your evil is showing again, Microsoft. Though points to you for dropping DRM.

    • GhostNomad

      I disagree. Anyone paying attention to this whole deal will notice that Microsoft only wants money. Now, one might ask how is that relevant? They’re a business and they want to make profits right?

      Right. That is true. They wanted to make a profit by putting all sorts of restrictions on the Xbone that would lead to consumers handing over more money. When they realized it wasn’t flying, they dropped that so that customers would give them more money, while trying to make consumers THINK they’ve won by voicing their opinions.

      The only reason behind this ‘listening’ is that they saw they weren’t gonna get the money they thought they deserve. They don’t give two shits about the consumers as people. All you are is a source of money, not voices, not people, nothing.

      In essence, they showed their scumbag in full force. I’m going to censor myself a bit for the reader’s sake. They tried to buttsex us, we said no. They said “ok, just the tip…” and now they’re ‘back in the game’ and have a CHANCE at winning? Pass.

      Besides, as it’s already been mentioned, if it was this simple for them to pull all this DRM bullshit for ‘our benefit’, what makes you think they won’t push it on the people who were fooled into trusting them again after the console’s been out for a month or two?

      • MrRobbyM

        I completely agree with all that except for one thing.

        Why you gotta compare it to buttsex, yo? some of us like that…ahem.

        But you’re right. This has only proven the scumbag nature of Microsoft yet again. Sure, most companies, even Sony, suffer from greed but at least Sony isn’t that bad and if we’re gonna not support a company for any little thing we don’t like, well, we wouldn’t be left with much. So Sony has my full support next gen and $100 less than the Xbox One will give them the upper hand.

        • GhostNomad

          Hey man, whatever you’re into. I’m just sayin’, most people wouldn’t enjoy being buttsex’d!

          And don’t get me wrong, if people like getting buttsex’d, that’s all good but… I’m sure there’s better candidates for that other than MS! Your significant other may get jealous!

          • MrRobbyM

            Let’s just say Sony already buttsexed a lot of people with the Move.


            okay bye

            • GhostNomad

              I don’t have one, neither do many other PS3 users. The games that are Move exclusive are hardly something to write home about too. Overall, in no way do I feel forced to give Sony my money for a Move. No buttsex!

              Unless you were going a totally different way with that…. In which case……. Pretty sure the Wii sexed a lot of people way before the Move. If you know what I mean.

              • MrRobbyM

                That’s true. I think the Move is a lot more effective for that kind of thing though.

                Funny. That can be interpreted in two different ways and they’d both be correct.

  • Speedo Redempteur

    Doesn’t change a thing.
    The only good thing tonight is the region free games ( heard that nintendo ? )

    But other than that the console
    Still requires Kinect
    Still requires the day one activation
    Still cost higher that his direct competitor
    Still is based on a TV model that doesn’t work in my country.
    Still hide behind the “power of the cloud” when the games at E3 weren’t even running on devkits but on pcs. to justify teh clear lack of power against yet again his direct opponent.

    Overall hasn’t show something that isn’t multiplatform at some point.

    Great news , but still not enough.

    • Learii

      that not all

      Uploaded with

      • shogunknight

        Is that still valid now? Even the so called cloud power, i doubt its of any use now..sigh Microsoft

  • genobee

    That is some serious backpedal by MS. I know this is a good thing but still… this is hilarious.

  • LordKaiser

    I will go where the most variety is and it seems that I can find that variety on PS4.

  • TetsuyaHikari

    So, just finished talking about this with a friend on Facebook. Here’s his take on it:

    “It was the incredibly unbalanced ratio of PS4:XboxOne pre-orders that finally made Microsoft wake up.

    Anyway, like I’ve been saying for months ever since the rumors started:
    Microsoft wants to do it, but they won’t actually go through with it
    because it won’t sell. And that’s exactly what happened. They saw the
    Xbox One wasn’t selling, and so they changed their mind about these

    Very important thing to note that is often getting lost in this piece of news: The Xbox One is now region free.”

    What did I have to say about it? Well, I’ve posted some thoughts earlier already, but here’s something a little more in-depth I guess you could say, heh.

    “An even MORE important piece of news… The policy may have changed, but it doesn’t mean they can’t implement it later anyway. Honestly, this sounds like a quick fix to rake in as much money as they can, then they will just patch the DRM shit in later. If they can flip the switch just like that to remove the DRM issue, then the consumer would be fucking ignorant to think they can’t just flip it right back on to put it back on.

    Not to mention, this is a DAY ONE patch, so if you don’t connect your
    console to the internet on the first day to play your games, well…
    Sucks to be you. Your console might as well be a 15+ pound paperweight. Secondly, it STILL costs $100+ more than their competitor, but comes with less hardware power (see: RAM), and lastly… There’s all that shit with the Kinect spying on the player, which STILL has to be activated at all times (this policy has not changed, go figure).

    This is just a ruse for them to get money. Nothing more, nothing less. Don’t be surprised if they implement their original plans anyway after they get their money from the initial shipments.

    Region free or not, they can kiss my ass for even considering to do that shit, much less think they can grovel for forgiveness by making promises they can’t keep because they’re just money-hungry bigots that think they can win over gamers with a few sugarcoated promises here and there, even after the travesty that occurred at E3. Well, guess what… From what I’m seeing so far around Gematsu, Neogaf, Facebook, etc., most people STILL don’t give a shit about Microsoft’s new policies because they tested the gamers’ tolerance for bullshit and they won’t forget so easily about their close-minded decisions.

    Most are still siding with Sony and the PS4, mainly because of the price. The original policies they had/have planned certainly helps too. They didn’t have to backpedal to try and win the respect back from gamers, they already had it the moment they went out on the floor to showcase their new console at E3 because Microsoft had already stepped on the chair, slipped the noose around the neck, and Sony kicked the chair out from underneath them.

    Microsoft is now on a road to its death in the console market, much like Sega. The only difference is… At least Sega still went out with dignity. The only reason the Dreamcast bombed is because of terrible (or non-existent, basically) marketing. This is FAR worse.”

  • Alos88

    This is great news for gamers, and proof that enough feedback can make a difference. I’m still getting a PS4 over an Xbone, but now the Xbone has some value to me.

  • Luna Kazemaru

    I can’t believe some people are so ready to throw money at a company
    that, four days ago was perfectly prepared to fuck you in all the ways
    you could be fucked in regards to gaming and privacy

    • TetsuyaHikari

      Who is throwing money at them again? I’d rather give my money to a hobo at this point. Even they are more deserving of it than these idiots.

      • Elvick

        $50 says they’re speaking in general.

        I bet there are people elsewhere online who are like, “ZOMG YES DEY CAREZ ABOOT MEZ” and preordering a second Xbox One.

    • Hating Ass Nigga

      Moderator – Please don’t post stuff like this.

      • TetsuyaHikari

        Normally, I wouldn’t do this, but… I suggest everyone flag this as ‘inappropriate’ and downvote it. This is just completely uncalled for.

      • LordKaiser

        You better delete this pal. It can get you banned…

  • Serovath

    and this shows one thing, we, the gamers, is powerful enough to change what we don’t like about what the developers are doing, if we band together and don’t show them our wallets.

    but ms is still not getting my money. :)

    • TetsuyaHikari

      It’s sad how there are people out there that actually believe Microsoft did this for the “consumer” and not to save their own asses. They didn’t do it for the gamers. They did it so they could keep their jobs.

      The only thing the gamers did was remind them that this was an awful idea and that if they were to continue to pursue it, we wouldn’t buy their plastic toilet. Now, upon further examination, they have realized how much money they would lose, so they changed their ways.

      If they were REALLY listening to what the consumer wanted, they would have never even CONSIDERED these atrocious policies in the first place. I mean, really… Who the hell actually WANTS the DRM feature on anything?

      It’s very convenient they just now start listening to “consumer feedback” after a flood of pre-orders were placed (mine included), after/during E3, on Amazon for the PS4 instead of the XBOX One. THAT is what got Microsoft to change their mind, not the consumer. As far as they are concerned, you’re nothing more than a number in their book.

      • Serovath

        totally agreed. :)

  • Aldridge517

    Fuck an Xbox One-Eighty. I know Microsoft wants people to believe they actually listened to complaints and feedback, but we all know this is about money. Stock prices dropping, PS4 pre-orders skyrocketing.

    I’m not interesting in rewarding Microsoft for reacting to losing money and customers to their competition.

  • Derpazu

    EA will not like this!

  • Gilgamesh2025

    Sounds good for the Xbox fans now, but I still remain faithful to Sony. So PS4 for me, please! ♥

  • $3582264

    Flawless Victory! Usually microsoft and co that force their ways onto us. But today fellow brethren tables are turned :D

    Hit those hypocrites on the wallets where it hurts them the most.

  • Charlottes Guardian

    I think the important thing to remember is that both Microsoft and Sony are still and always will be businesses, and they’re number 1 goal is to ship units, make money etc. Obviously Microsoft went about that alllll wrong in the beginning, and the back peddling now just makes it worse in some consumers eyes. I still don’t fully understand the whole point of pushing all these things and then taking away, knowing that you’re going to make yourself look like the bad guy…but I digress. I know people want to attack Microsoft, and praise Sony, thats all fine and well, but at the end of the day. This is, still good news. Now before I get attacked too hard here, I will be purchasing a PS4 undoubtedly, as I grew up on the ps1 and ps2 with games that basically raised me. I only bought an xbox360 this new generation because thats what all my friends had, And I wanted to game along of coarse. I only recently got a ps3, about a year ago. However, I’m looking to getting back into jrpgs and indie titles, and the PS4 is definitely the route to go for my taste. Back on topic though, the reason this is good news is, as a gamer, what matters to me is games. Games. I can’t stress that enough. I absolutely LOVED everything I’ve seen about project Spark, a game I can see myself losing hours in, countless hours. But its an Xbox exclusive, and with all the DRM nonsense and just sketchy business in general, I couldn’t see myself ever buying an XB One. I thought I was going to lose out on a game that I really, reallly want to play. Now i’m not saying I am going to get an Xbox right away or anything, but I can see myself getting one in the future(most likely distant future) after my PS4 purchase, and have my consoles living in harmony, not turmoil. See its not all bad guys.

    tl;dr -This is good news for gamers. I’m still getting a PS4, but at the end of the day, I’m happy for Xbox gamers and I hope theres more good news to come.

    • TetsuyaHikari

      Another important thing to remember here is… Microsoft seems to be more in it for the money than Sony though. Hell, even when they released the PS3, they were losing money. According to a report by Merrill Lynch, the PS3 alone should have been worth about $1,400 based on the hardware that was inside.

      Please bear in mind, this was around the time when Blu-ray players were very expensive (between $800 – $1,000) on their own. Either way, we were getting a HELL of a deal. Now they’re releasing the PS4 at an even lower price than the PS3 was at, despite it having 16 times the RAM the PS3 has and an 8-core CPU, which those two alone would be over $399. Yet, Microsoft wants to charge the consumer $100+ more and give you less.

      I hardly think it’s fair to put these two companies in the same category.

  • Elvick

    Pathetic. They should have never existed to begin with.

    I’d rather them stick with it to be honest, so they can fail hard. They’re terrible for this industry and will continue to try and infringe upon our consumer rights.

    Sucks, since now some derps will be buying the stupid thing. And probably believe “MS listened” and “cared” about them. *eye roll*

  • Skeletor

    I am happy to see that at least 95% of the people leaving comments here are not stupid enough to fall back in line with MS over this news.

    MS is still a cancer and they deserve to fail hard. They do nothing but stagnate the industry.

    Meanwhile on IGN the try hards are going apeshit and acting like MS is a big green Jesus now.

    Xboners are pathetic and do not deserve to partake in this hobby b/c they do not respect it.

    I love all the talk about being a real gamer and liking all platforms and while that is cute, accepting what MS was proposing with cheeks spread was not being a gamer. It was being a sheep.

    A day one patch can be rolled back on day two and no amount of timed exclusives like DR3 or Titanfall will convince me to assimilate.

    • TetsuyaHikari


      It still stays true to this day. You can’t spell ‘ignorant’ without ‘ign’.

  • Altin

    “Update: Microsoft has confirmed these changes will require a day-one patch, and that, as a result, the game sharing library (between 10 people) is something “we won’t be able to deliver at launch.”

    And this is where you still dont catch my attention MS. If they can easily fix those BIG policies with a patch, they can put them back whenever they want.

  • Jason Harthcock

    Dear Microsoft/Xbox One: Oh praise be to you great one for finally relenting after a hailstorm of protest since your unveiling for ALLOWING us mere mortals to continue to do with our video games what we’ve been able to do since 1985 (i.e. buying/selling/trading the games we bought and paid for as well as play our games offline for longer than 24hrs at a time) even though Sony was going to allow us to continue to do so from the start. Once again, thank you all powerful as MERCIFUL Microsoft/Xbox One for bestowing upon us our given rights that we’ve been utilizing since 1985! Praise be to you powerful one…. Eat crap.

  • Hating Ass Nigga

    I was kinda hoping Microsoft would just die off maybe then the age of shooters and “AAA” games would go with it.

  • 浪黒雷 (Roland Gmyrek)

    They listened to pre-orders and polls, that’s all. Still requires a day one patch to get rid of it. Suddenly the power of the cloud is not as integral to the system as previously claimed. PS4 it is.

  • stack0123

    “Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard
    directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your

    Like hell they did. They didn’t hear us, they heard our wallets closing.

  • MasterSensei

    Sega should take this chance to pounce like a hungry Jaguar that has found it’s prey and release the Sega Spectrum as a brand new home console so that we would never, ever care about Microsoft ever again.

  • DoDoDo Ro

    LOL they heard their money going to Sony, that’s why they did it

  • Kita

    Yup, I knew they’d change things up after the excitement over Sony. I never thought Microsoft would stand by their decision like it was carved in stone, otherwise, they’d fail miserably and never recover.

  • Willgaea

    I’m not going to buy a console when the policies are full of broken dreams. That’s like buying a hamburger with shit all over it. I still think they are unhappy about having to set back their future of what the wanted for the game industry. I wonder how long it takes before MS gets tired of giving “handouts” to the people that support them.

  • Marco Tinè

    Now that the DRM crap is out of the picture, I think we can discuss other important points about the Xbox One and the PS4: why the vast majority of the games shown on Xbox One ran at 1080p/60 Hz, while on PS4 they struggled to mantain 30 fps? This is a point that Sony should address as soon as possible, before someone starts to ask why the (allegedly) more powerful machine didn’t look that powerful at E3.

    I’m aware that most of the PS4 code was still unoptimized, but the point is, Xbox One games (the ones running on actual hardware, mind you) looked smoother and better with both machines just four months away. The only PS4 game that was apparently locked at 30 frames and looking really good was InFAMOUS.

    • LordKaiser

      Could be that the games on PS4 where running from the disc rather than the hard drive also it may have to do with the memory. XB1 may have 8GB of DDR3 but it’s that memory used to render images? does the XB1 uses also video based memory like GDDR5 in addition to the system DDR3?

      • Marco Tinè

        As far as I know, the Xbox One uses a small amount of super-fast cache memory to move data between the main RAM and the CPU, same design philosophy from the 360. My guess is that the few games running on actual hardware, like Forza Motorsport 5, have been coded on final devkits much sooner than every other third party products; it wouldn’t be strange for a first party studio to have this sort of head start.

        What really puzzles me is why the mockup PCs used by Microsoft to show third party games *for* the Xbox One (but not *on* the Xbox One) were equipped with ATi Radeon video cards, while Nvidia is the confirmed manifacturer of the graphics chipset for the console this time around. Maybe Microsoft is pretty confident that all the codebase written for DirectX 11 will run on the One regardless.

    • adhesive

      Games on the Xbox One were actually being run on high end PCs. The PS4 games were running off of the PS4.

  • Xwolf

    I own xbox 360 and ps3, but on this generation I think I’m gonna pass xbox one. I will only buy ps4 and wii u.

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  • artemisthemp

    Good to see another Company dropping Region lock.
    Now Nintendo just need to drop it.