Paul Thurrott: Next Xbox due early November for $499, requires internet connection, full reveal at E3
posted on 04.25.13 at 11:07 AM EDT by (@salromano)
Latest update from reveal date source.

Paul Thurrott, the first source to claim the next Xbox’s yesterday-confirmed May 21 reveal date, has gone live with a new story detailing what he knows about Microsoft’s new system.

We’ve heard some of these claims from Thurrott before. But there are some new ones there, too. The bullets below are all according to Thurrott. Take this information with a grain of salt until confirmed or denied.

  • Announcement: As teased yesterday, Microsoft will announce the new Xbox on May 21. According to Thurrott, this is to “better position the device against the PlayStation 4,” which Sony announced on February 20.
  • Full Details: Though it will be announced on May 21, Microsoft will fully detail the system, including launch lineup, at E3 in June.
  • Developer Platform: Microsoft will discuss the Xbox developer platform at the Build conference in late June, “based on clues on the Build website.”
  • Release Date: The next Xbox will launch in early November 2013.
  • Windows 8: The next Xbox is based on the “Core” version of Windows 8, which, according to Thurrott, “suggests a common apps platform” or “one similar to Windows 8.”
  • Price: The system will launch at two prices. The standalone model will cost $499. A $299 model, which requires a two-year Xbox LIVE Gold subscription plus an additional $10 a month, will also be released.
  • Yuma: Microsoft originally planned to offer a full version and an “entertainment” version of the next Xbox code-named “Yuma,” but put those plans on hold.
  • Blu-ray: The next Xbox wil use a Blu-ray disc reader.
  • Always-On: The next Xbox “must be internet-connected to use.” According to Thurrott, “this is the source of the ‘always on’/’always online’ rumors and isn’t as Draconian as many seem to believe.”
  • Xbox 360: A third Xbox 360 revision will be released this year at a “slightly less expensive” price than previous models. Code-named “Stingray,” Thurrott said it is “not clear if this device is required because the next Xbox isn’t backwards compatible, or because Microsoft simply wants a low-cost entertainment box alternative.”

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  • Adol Christin

    “The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use.”…. well that seals the deal for me :(

    • Pyrofrost

      While I’m not pro-MS or anything. After all, I’m far too weaboo for that, and I’m a proudly dedicated JP gamer.

      These are all still only rumors. If you are considering the next-XBox, don’t be deterred by all the bullshit until you have some set-in-stone confirmations.

      • Adol Christin

        I hope you are right :)

        • Pyrofrost

          Well, it still may be true. I just personally tend to blow over rumors because there is no point in getting worked up over what may or may not be true. I prefer dealing in facts.

      • rockman29

        smart post dude

        for everyone else: keep in mind, these guys are not fully dependable sources, they can say many different things at different times

        be careful what you believe, information can be used to manipulate you

        • Solomon_Kano

          For a second I had a flashback to MGS2 lol, but well said.

  • PhoenixAutomatic~♪(๑ᴖ◡ᴖ๑)♪~

    Goodbye Xbox, I hope to see you 7 years later.

  • bep

    “must be internet-connected to use.” The Biggest Fail in History…

  • DarthBrian

    lol Microsoft.
    If the internet-connected rumor is true, M$ is fully intending this to be a service-based box and not have much to do with gaming at all.


  • Solomon_Kano

    Bit close to E3 for them to do an announcement that isn’t a full reveal. This is literally coming a few weeks before E3. To what end? If it had been a full reveal, I could say “Oh, cool, now E3’s gonna be all about games!” but no.


    I feel like this is going to be the E3 when they first announced Kinect all over again. Lots of talking about how it’s the BEST THING EVER but not much in the way of actual content. Well, I guess we’ll see.

  • GeekyCub

    Must be internet-connected… Well, that blows. Unless Microsoft has some mind-blowingly awesome exclusives for the NextBox, I’ll be giving most of my paychecks to Sony and Nintendo. ^_~

    • artemisthemp

      It have Halo 5 and Gears 4

      • RmanX1000

        Oh goodie… More shooting.

  • artemisthemp

    So less than 1 month to we know, if Next Xbox will blow or maybe be a go

    • MogCakes

      perhaps it will go blow some Joe schmo fo’ some mo’…ney


  • lorelai4cuties

    “The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use.” i really doubt it..i dont think microsoft that stupid to that ….im pretty sure MS wont do that

    • TetsuyaHikari

      Something tells me you might have a little too much faith in big corporations… Lol.

    • Lynx

      Actually, I would think MS would be that stupid.

      Keep in mind this is the same company who forced paid online period while Sony had free online with subscriptions being optional (and with perks like free games.)

      • christate

        Sony did not have said “optional sub” until way late into the game and it is still no where near comparable to XBL. XBL is really the only reason MS has the foothold it has right now. Though if the “Always On” is as feared that foothold may be on its last legs. Sony’s stance on indy development, their Dev friendly architecture, and their new focus on “Games First” has them leading this next-gen with a massive head start. MS has some shoes to fill if they stand a chance at this point.

  • TetsuyaHikari

    There you have it, folks. I don’t think we’ll be seeing Microsoft in the console market after this.

    • AdamBoy64

      Yeah. I can’t imagine how they’re justifying this.
      What a joke.

  • Shaun Huseman

    Im surprised people are ok with it being Windows 8 based

    • Awnye

      I’m not

      • 武神水樹

        I’d rather have Linux, someone is going to hack this day 1

    • Jada

      What is wrong with that? Honest question.

    • MrKappa

      That and “always on” are the two things that will make sure I never get this Xbox no matter what it has. It looks like the 360 is the last for me, maybe Microsoft will get it right next time.

    • DarthBrian

      I’m not okay with it, but I’m also not surprised. Was fully expecting it to be Windows 8 based. But it’s not like they whole OS is going to be there. They’ll probably just use a bare-bones kernel to keep the memory footprint smaller. Probably not that big a deal. *shrug*

    • DrForbidden

      Knowing Xbots, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re okay with their Xbox murdering their parents and raping their dog.

      Seriously though, Windows 8 screams FAIL on so many levels it’s not even funny anymore…

      • TetsuyaHikari

        …Murdering their parents and raping their dog?

        • MogCakes

          Freudian slip!

        • DrForbidden

          I am implying that there are Xbots out there who will will refuse to condemn whatever invasive or broken garbage MS shoves down their throats, possibly even up to console-initiated murder and rape, because they are fanboys.

          I didn’t think the sentence confusingly-worded…

  • shogunknight

    (O_O)/ IVE HAD IT!! I dont know what to believe anymore

  • Tac-Mex


  • 武神水樹

    What happens if your power goes out? What happens if Adam Orth stops and says sorry but you have to deal with it

    • Tac-Mex

      You will have to deal with it

      • 武神水樹


  • Epic Markell Joshua

    DLC, No Ip’s from MS and all the 3rd party you can handle how about
    some online DRM and your favorite subscriptions and mircotransactions.

  • [Guillem ]


    • The_Doorman

      I have a feeling that’s what their financial loss statement will have stamped across it in big red letters if they mandate an internet connection – especially for single player games.

  • Zero

    I keep calling for MS to make some kind of official statement. It could be a small article with bullet points like this, it could be a video with Major Nelson, anything!

    Until they do, the rumors will continue, the negative PR will continue, it’s getting pretty annoying if you ask me.

    I just think it’s bad for the brand to continue and let all this negativity fester. They had originally planned to have this event this month, according to the rumors at least. I think it was supposed to be tomorrow.

    The delay is like the final annoying poke for some. I think that’s why we keep seeing more rumors, we see more people in the media talk about it, etc.

    I just think all of this points to patience wearing thin, for some it’s already gone. Other folks are stepping up and trying to make next box statements, all of this while Microsoft more or less stays radio silent.

    It’s just annoying, I’m so ready for Microsoft to come out and just give us facts. The negativity is starting to ooze into all video game related discussions… I’m tired of it. If you plan to reveal news that you think will anger some people, just do it already. Stop delaying the inevitable.

    • miyamoto

      maybe their bodies are not ready …nor as prepared as Sony’s Mark Cerny

  • miyamoto

    The big question is will they release next Xbox in Japan for the third time?

    • 武神水樹

      MS is stubborn so probably

  • checkeredknight

    Rumours be rumours but I really like what I have seen from the PS4 and Microsoft are going to have to do a lot to win me over. Sony’s attitude seems to have greatly improved as of late, with lots of focus on developers and stuff gamers want to see. A lot of the rumours I’ve heard about Durango seem to imply the opposite, but I’m really hoping Microsoft have a good reveal. Always online, Kinect 2.0 and focus on TV / Movie / Music streaming are not things I want to see.

  • LordKaiser

    The only good news about the next Xbox is the 360 mini attachment. Everything else seem to be bad news.

  • PrinceHeir

    i’ll stick with my PS4 and Wii U thank you so much :P

  • Prodigy-X
  • EspadaKiller

    Oh MS….unless they have a very good reason for always online I don’t see how people would buy this reason. Looks like we all have to wait for the 21 May reveal for more details.

  • TimesTicking

    They are still planning to charge people to play online?