Final Fantasy Versus XIII outfit designer lists game as “Final Fantasy 15″ [Update]
posted on 03.15.13 at 06:37 PM EDT by (@salromano)
Is Square Enix's PlayStation 3 action RPG the next numbered Final Fantasy?

Japanese fashion brand Roen, which provided costume design work on Final Fantasy Versus XIII, is listing the upcoming Square Enix RPG as “Final Fantasy 15” on its official website’s biography page.

How do we know it’s Final Fantasy Versus XIII and not a different game called Final Fantasy XV? The work was done in 2008, when publisher Square Enix announced its partnership with Roen. And Versus XIII is nowhere to be found in the company’s history.

According to the Wayback Machine, the page has listed Final Fantasy XV since last July, at least. It’s interesting that it hasn’t been picked up until now.

Thanks, Sokuho@Hokanko.

Update: In a blog post, Roen has said the “Final Fantasy 15” listing was a mistake that’s been fixed, and that the staff is taking measures to ensure these types of things do not occur in the future.

  • Azuardo

    I’m still of the belief that Versus XIII has indeed been changed to FF15 and that it will be the game revealed for PS4 at E3. We shall see, though!

    • Revorse

      I completely agree. I mean with all they hype/desire for Versus and the hate for the XIII series, it’d be beneficial to rebrand a game that people want as the next big title.

  • Shadow

    Nah, I’m pretty sure this is just an hallucination.

  • Potionzmaster

    I don’t care, just give me the game >_>

    D:

    • 新阿修羅(ShinAsura)

      It may not be as good as you remember it to be, that’s usually how things work when something is old

      • Potionzmaster

        How can it not be as good as I remember when we’ve hardly seen anything and the things we have seen have long since been changed?
        I wonder how it looks now…

        • 新阿修羅(ShinAsura)

          It’d be very expensive for them to give it an entire new coat of paint, my guess would be they killed the Versus XIII project and are using what was left in FFXV which won’t use current gen standards

          Why do you think what’s his face came out during the PS4 annoucement and said hey guys, we’re working on FFXV

          • Potionzmaster

            Well actually, at the time the 2011 trailer got released, they had given the game a graphical update already, while using an older build for the trailer. And that was more than 2 years ago, so it’s not unlikely they changed some things in the meantime.

          • dead_bones

            They didn’t scrap anything. Tetsuya Nomura said years ago that they are trying to implement completely new things into Versus 13. The reason they haven’t shown anything is because they moved it to the PS4 and needed the time to upgrade and finish. Don’t be a negative nancy. Square doesn’t scrap and reuse material.

  • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

    I still think they should just call the game – Final Fantasy Versus.

    • fqc

      Well it’s not exactly a fighting game so that name would probably just confuse a lot of people

      • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

        The name doesn’t have to make sense. This is something I’ve learned from Square-Enix in the last few years.

        How about – Dissidia Duodecim 012 Final Fantasy. xD

        Plus, people will be asking themselves. Final Fantasy Versus what? So they will buy the game to find out, which leads to better sales.

        (This reply is just a joke lol.)

        • Elvick

          You know would create great sales? Being Final Fantasy XV.

          • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

            Okay, fair enough, lol

            I was just being silly anyways, idc what they name the game. I just want them to announce a release date already. Release a new trailer, a demo… something… anything!

            • Elvick

              Here’s hoping it’s “a Final Fantasy” they’ll show at E3…

              If not, we’ll be trolled some more by SE in regards to VS. What else is new. xP

  • 新阿修羅(ShinAsura)

    That’s bs, they scrapped the project on PS3 and are using it’s asessts to make the next FF

    • surakian

      Or it is actually Versus XIII renamed to XV. That’s the more logical conclusion

      • Cleiton Santos

        I’m ok with that. Versus was just a name, what matters is the concept being the same.

        • 新阿修羅(ShinAsura)

          Nah I’d rather have a new Final Fantasy IP using new tech than leftover scraps

          • Sevyne

            Is your brain made of leftover scraps or something? Because you clearly do not understand how these things work.

            • 新阿修羅(ShinAsura)

              Care to explain then instead of using insults?

              • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

                I think what @sevyne:disqus is trying to say he/she doesn’t believe Versus has been scrapped or gutted. That the project is still alive, and will eventually be released for current generation, or next generation consoles.

                I might be wrong, I just want everyone to discuss this as friends. ^^

                • Sevyne

                  I wouldn’t say it has or hasn’t been scrapped since I’m not the one working on the game, just like Shin isn’t either. They’re jumping to some rather bizzare conclusion that if the game is being moved to PS4 then it’ll be butchered reused assets. Reused assets of what? A game that isn’t even out? Then they aren’t exactly reused are they?

                  Not to mention that if let’s say they are moving the game to Luminous for the PS4; Then it’s not as simple as just piecemealing a bunch of half assed assets like they seem to believe.

                  • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

                    Understood. It does make you wonder though, will Versus look anything like it did in the last trailer they released? … you know… when they show it again?

                    It might look quite a bit different.

                    • Sevyne

                      Hard to say really. Remember when FFXIII was being shown off? It actually looked way better than what we got visually. If it’s still on PS3, it wouldn’t surprise me if it looks a little worse than what we’ve been shown. If it has actually moved to the next gen like many speculate, then I’d only imagine it was moved to the Luminous Engine and greatly improved.

            • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

              Okay, okay, let’s keep this conversation friendly. We can discuss this without it becoming so serious. ^^

      • 新阿修羅(ShinAsura)

        They won’t just port the game over, they more than likely gutted the games assests

        Nothing has been said about Versus XIII for ages and it’s been two times now that we’ve heard about FFXV

        Also SquareEnix is not logical

        • Cleiton Santos

          The negativity is strong in this one.

          • 新阿修羅(ShinAsura)

            hehe

  • Tyler James Sherwood

    well E3 is gonna be interesting

  • DarthBrian

    Squeenix has been driving me crazy for the last 6 years. I wish they would stop doing that. >_<

    • DarthBrian

      Why can I no longer edit comments?

      I want to add that I blame Microsoft for all this crap because they paid Squeenix to make FFXIII go multiplaform which meant that all that manpower to make it a cross-platform game had to come from somewhere and guess where it came from? That’s right, Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

      >_<

      • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

        You should be able to edit your comment with no issues. You don’t see the edit button next to reply? It should be right next to it.

        • DarthBrian

          Nope, I’m only getting options for “reply” or “share”.

          • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

            Weird. Try logging out and back in or something.

            • DarthBrian

              I logged out and back in to Gematsu. Didn’t work.

              • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

                Did you try logging in and out of Disqus? You can also try clearing browsers cache and stuff. It could be a weird glitch. I’ve had Disqus do very strange things to me before. Sorry you are having issues.

                • DarthBrian

                  How the hell do I log out of Disqus? :p

                • DarthBrian

                  Okay, I figured out how to log out of Disqus. Did that and no luck, still only ‘reply’ and ‘share’ options.

                  • http://twitter.com/GematsuZero Zero

                    Very weird. Try using a different web browser. Sign in and see if it lets you edit your comments.

      • http://gematsu.com/author/ro-kurorai 浪黒雷 (Roland Gmyrek)

        I second that. High hopes for vXIII as it’s a console exclusive, so no BS compromises to be made. Here’s hoping it stays exclusives as going multi will only hurt the game.

      • HeatPhoenix

        I honestly doubt the designers and artists had any role in porting a game to another platform. Honestly, it was probably even outsourced.

      • MosquitoLemon

        Wow, so SquareEnix can tease products, abuse fans, mismanage everything, and still get away scot-free because fools are just gonna blame it on Microsoft -_-

  • surakian

    LOL Roen. Wonder how fast that will vanish from their site once Square Enix catches wind.

    • http://www.facebook.com/aly.hesham.7 Aly Hesham

      You are totally right ! They already changed it to Versus XIII(Tentative) lol

  • http://gematsu.com/ Sal Romano
  • rockman29

    Hope this is announced for next-gen so everyone can eat crow for being mad I suggested it :)

  • http://gematsu.com/author/ro-kurorai 浪黒雷 (Roland Gmyrek)

    would corroborate Hashimoto’s statement at PS4′s reveal that the next FF game will be announced at E3. vXIII sounded awesome as a title, XV sounds lame but I do not care. I want a mind-blowing Nomura-helmed hi-def FF title on PlayStation no matter the name and with none of the BS ideas that made FFXIII-2 and the upcoming LR:FFXIII so unappealing to me. As long as it’s 100% genuinely Nomura I’m in.

    • http://profiles.google.com/dnlblue Daniel blue

      Wait, so “VersusXIII” is okay but XV sounds lame? I mean, it’s a roman numeral. It doesn’t need to sound awesome. Personally, I find the current naming standards at Square Enix incridibly silly as of late. I mean, 348/2 days? Dissidia 012 Duodecim? Theatrhythm? Dream Drop Distance? Bravely Default? All the Bravest? Who comes up with this stuff?!

      • http://gematsu.com/author/ro-kurorai 浪黒雷 (Roland Gmyrek)

        vXIII implies it’s basically the polar opposite of XIII, which, in a lot of FF fans’ books, is a good thing. Thus it sounded awesome.

        If you don’t like Japanese companies’ weirdly Japanese game titles then don’t bother purchasing them, simple as that ;)

  • Prodigy-X

    I knew it. They just renamed it to XV and releasing it exclusively for PS4 in 2014.

  • Azure

    My soul has been ready since 2006.

  • new_tradition

    *laughs and cries at the same time*

    • new_tradition

      *see update*

      Oh… Don’t hate me, but I’m glad. My plan was to play Versus on my PS3 while I waited for FFXV to come out on the PS4 (hopefully the system got a price drop before it released). Granted, concrete Versus news at E3 would’ve been great after all this time :/

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.delriver Mike Del River

    There was any doubt about this happening?

  • http://www.facebook.com/aly.hesham.7 Aly Hesham

    My heart fluttered! Oh SE please make this a full title it really deserves it.Also guys check out the first 4 seconds of this trailer.The subtle eye movement , the freakin’ hair has shadow and this simply seems impossible in real time on this gen.This is equivalent to the tech demo models! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuzAc5yR1YU

    • Potionzmaster

      I know right? I was so shocked when I first saw that (and still, actually). However, I do think it’s pre-rendered (you know, not CGI, but in-game-ish pre-rendered), as the in-game footage from 2011 was substantially less detailed.

      • http://www.facebook.com/aly.hesham.7 Aly Hesham

        Even FFXIII pre-rendered(in engine) stuff isn’t nearly as good as this.This looks ALOT like luminous tech and it makes sense as nomura repeatedly said he aimed for photorealism when creating versus = luminous = next gen! :D

  • Raiyu

    This shouldn’t even come as a surprise…even Kitase kinda hinted XV could be an ARPG, which is what Versus XIII is.

  • zakou

    Oh no xD not this shit again… Here we go again FF15 will be announced as previously known as Versus XIII and it will be changed to “Final Fantasy Eternal D” in 2020 e3 when ps5 is announced.

    Know what would be funny? If in 7 years what i said was true and i came back here and laugh and repost this everywhere and call myself a prophet lol but the sad part is that you never know, it might just be true.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kerzie Kerzie Wildrick

      lol calling yourself a prophet would mean you knew for certainty i like popping bubbles :p but its a shame if it is true i was really looking forward to the versus 13 world not some new unrelated world as long as it is still gonna be very dark and back to the old formula with airships and huge open worlds i freaken saw controllable mechs…man man man i don’t want this to be true

  • MrRobbyM

    I’m not even going to other speculating. I just want the damn game already (;-_-)/

  • Bloodios

    So the next Final Fantasy installment is going to have a slight name change. That… doesn’t actually change anything. Can I just freaking know when in heaven exactly is it going to be released?

  • Bryce Blalex Douglas

    I was actually expecting this when they gave the troll announcement of XV. I’m just hoping they don’t change the ARPG aspect of it, that was the best part.

  • Freesun4

    Okay…? I just hope it remains as an action RPG.

  • Freesun4

    Okay…? I just hope it remains as an action RPG.

    • Solomon_Kano

      That’s not gonna change. They already got people hyped up for Versus as an ARPG, changing the gameplay so drastically wouldn’t really do them any favors.

      • Freesun4

        I hope the delays mean that Square is putting more budget in the game since it’s becoming a main FF title. I want Nomura to win the fanbase again.

        • Solomon_Kano

          I think it probably had a big budget from the beginning with all of the things Nomura’s said and shown. Multiple playable characters, high quality graphics, vehicles, a vast world. Most likely it being XV now just means there’s a hell of a lot more staff on it. Maybe it means that they’re now doing the whole game in Luminous? That would be amazing. I mean they didn’t show the same tech demo again for nothing… right?

  • epy

    What everyone has been saying for a couple years now. Too bad, I wanted Versus AND a new numbered Final Fantasy.

    • Derek Spencer

      Now you get both in one!

  • Kurisu Makise

    It begins… (at last). I’ll be waiting with bated breath at Sony’s E3 presser Square Enix, your move.

  • Kurisu Makise

    It begins… (at last). I’ll be waiting with bated breath at Sony’s E3 presser Square Enix, your move.

  • Solomon_Kano

    Well, if it’s a numbered game now then that likely means it’s near(er) to completion. Square Enix knows they can’t announce FF XV with a wait like XIII after they already announced the announcement. They don’t always make the smartest choices, but they won’t be that dumb. Hopefully.

  • Aldridge517

    The name change is cool with me. I liked “Versus”, but in fact this is an upgrade :)

    • Freesun4

      Knowing Nomura he would have “Final Fantasy XVersus”

  • Kanok Timkhlai

    Fantasy Versus XIII is going to multiplatform soon…………my guess.

  • http://www.squarealliance.com/ Zackasaur

    Omg. :D

  • awaiken

    Clothing designed by fashion designer eh? 12 year old me would have been disgusted by this, but Adult me thinks that’s pretty modern and awesome

  • PrinceHeir

    Hurry Up Square Enix!!!!

    also don’t forget Bravery Default, Type-0, and Dragon Quest VII please!

  • Anime10121

    Not putting much weight in this, if only for the fact that its been up so long and that its the clothing designer (not anyone in the actual industry) who listed this.

    Besides unfortunately rumors and misinformation about this title are more common than real informstion.

    Ill keep waiting for the re-re-reveal of this title. Hopefully its sooner rather than later, but with LR set to come out in the fall, the soonest we’ll here anything concrete about Vs. is at TGS this year.

    • Solomon_Kano

      Honestly, them not being in the industry makes this sound more likely. Its doubtful that they’d change the name based on some internet rumors. This is an item in their design portfolio and it wouldn’t do for them to just change it off of hearsay when they’re in partnership with the people actually making the game.

      If Versus isn’t XV don’t expect to hear about it at TGS. No way SE talks about XV at E3 for PS4, then goes back to talking about a PS3 FF at TGS. With the big deal they’re making Luminous out to be and the attention XV would command, talking about a PS3 game at TGS instead of their new PS4 FF would be odd. Also, if XV isn’t Versus its announcement would likely kill whatever hype Versus has left. SE is too smart for that.

      The length of time since we last saw Versus; the talk about Luminous lighting being added, but then telling us we can’t see it yet; the use of an old tech demo to announce their presence on PS4. Nomura is too important for SE to announce a project bigger than his own while his has been in the dark for so long. That would be counterintuitive to both being successful; only XV would benefit. No, at this point, Versus as XV on next gen makes too much sense to not be real.

      • Anime10121

        AAAAnnnnnddddddd point is made. Everything you’ve said makes perfect sense and I quite honestly believe it was just my inner gamer not wanting Versus to be XV when we still havent gotten a new Ito Final Fantasy. I think its just me wanting Ito’s project to come outta the woodworks and be XV, although, this could mean we get two numbered Final Fantasies MUCH closer than it is now, and more like how they used to do them back in the PSone days, with XV/Versus coming next year, and Ito’s coming 2015.

        Though my main problem with Versus becoming XV is that the mythology of Versus will either need to change completely, or it will be a completely new numbered FF still using the mythology of the “XIII series” the Fabula Nova Crystallis, although I guess it wouldnt be the first time they’ve done it, what with Agito XIII’s sudden name change to type 0. But I’d argue in that case it still wasnt as big a deal because type 0 never became a fully fledged numbered Final Fantasy, which is supposed to be its own universe/philosophy.

        This’ll be the first time a numbered Final Fantasy has legitimately carried a mythos from one numbered entry into the next, and while VII and X have a vague/not confirmed connection in Shinra, the lifestream, and the fayth, that Kitase/Toriyama have hinted may be connected, they have never confirmed it to definitely be the case.

        All in all, I guess it’d be more me being disappointed if this turns out to be true, as I feel like it’d be a sort of “cop-out” if Vs. were to become XV for the PS4, especially after purporting it to be for the PS3 after all these years (and knowing that it also was originally planned to be a PS2 game along with XIII, making this the second system migration).

        Regardless, I AM excited to play the game name change or not, but it would just seem weird to me, especially after all this time with them saying that Vs. would be far too different to be a numbered game in the series…

        The rest of this is just my opinion on the rating of the game from the limited information and footage weve been shown

        …and with the way its going, it could be the first M rated numbered Final Fantasy, as I dont remember many games, fantasy looking or not, that are rated Teen and house “realistic graphics”, with the amounts of blood seen in the trailers (first trailer with him stabbing the armored guard and the blood splattering out)/gameplay shown (newest 2011 trailer with Noctis fighting the behemoth has blood gushing after each strike).

        Not saying that the blood is important (its not), but if the direction Nomura was taking the game was so dark/Shakespearean levels of realistic that it needed to exhibit blood, the general tone of the game would have to be changed if they were to keep it a T rating as the other numbered games have been. There is a general light to the numbered series that I dont think has ever been changed to the certain “morbid/dark” tone that Vs. was said to have had since maybe VI, and even then, it wasnt as bad because it still looked like a colorful fantasy world with little detail ( which is maybe why a remake of that title has yet to come out, because they dont know how to depict some of the things Kefka does and the whole “World of Ruin” thing while still keeping it a T rating).

        Fantasy games are judged far more harshly now than they were back then because they look far more “realistic” with their graphics than the sprites of 15-20 years ago (as evident of them having to change the guns in KH2′s Pirates of the Carribean world because they looked to realistic in order to keep its E10 rating).

        I honestly just dont wanna see the vision/mythos of the game have to change just to fit the standards of a numbered Final Fantasy title. What you said does seem quite plausible (extremely plausible knowing Square nowadays), it would just seem weird for us to basically have known about a PS4 Final Fantasy, back before even the PS3 was released.

        and there I go spiraling into my “long comment territory” of the past, didnt think I’d ever do another like that :P

        • Solomon_Kano

          Hm. Yea, it would be a bit odd to have the next numbered entry share the FNC mythos. Then again, we don’t know how deeply ingrained into Versus it was with how little we’ve seen. Though it wasn’t two numbered titles in this case, it’d be kinda like the world of Tactics returning in XII (and Vagrant Story before that).

          As for the rating, I think they’ll manage a T. Really the darkness of the trailer was more accentuated by its overall tons. When they showed gameplay the blood was no more than what we see in Uncharted, which managed to keep its T with blood, sexual references, and course language. Versus will likely only have one of those 3, so it’s even better off. I wouldn’t mind it being rated M, but there’s nothing thus far to earn that rating anyway.

          Don’t worry about the long comments. I almost always post huge replies, so I don’t mind in the least lol.

          • Anime10121

            True dat, dont know how I forgot about Uncharted, its true that that game does have all three, so maybe Vs. is safe with the T rating. I just hope we hear something soon regardless of what happens.

            Welp EDIT: Just read the update and looks like a big fuss over nothing, and it was indeed an error on Roen’s part.

            • Solomon_Kano

              Huh. Interesting that it took them nearly a year to notice that. Somebody’s gonna get a scolding lol.

              Ah well, we’ll see what’s really going on at E3.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JeremieJerryIsmael Jerry Bayerischesmotorenwerk

    So if it is true Final Fantasy Versus wont be exklusiv for PS3/PS4 anymore.

  • http://lukalovesgames.blogspot.de/ Alkaid

    Seriously after all those years… I can only say Square Enix sucks…. This is a disaster, a joke and it’s getting less funny as the days go by. >__>’
    They just simply shouldn’t have announced those games ( yes I count Agito in it as well) so soon.

    My condolence to all the people out there who are still waiting for the game, it must be really hard on them.

  • Budgiecat

    neat

  • Gaara D.Dragon

    Hey Sal. it’s changed to FF Versus now…
    Considering this is actually “old” -last july- news, do you think we are talking about a simply misinformed bio ?

  • Gaara D.Dragon

    So, long story short, the internetz exploded over nothing ?!

  • LordKaiser

    SE you release Versus XIII on PS4 only and I’ll have to skip it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/micheal.scott.315 Micheal Scott

    ok yhea we all saw this coming right

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/GamingHeroTetsuya TetsuyaHikari

    The only “mistake” here is that they let the cat out of the bag before Square-Enix did, lol.