PS4 “still in development in terms of final specs and design”

Games won't support 4K, but movies and photos will.

February 21, 2013 / 05:23 PM EDT / (@salromano)

When PlayStation 4 was announced in New York City last night, Sony showed the interface, the games, and told you what was inside, but they didn’t show what it looks like. According to Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton, that’s because it’s not yet ready.

“We’re certainly capable of showing playable game content,” Tretton told AllThingsD, “but we don’t have a mass-production box that we can bring out and pull out. That’s still in development in terms of final specs and design.”

The box will be shown later this year. But even so, Tretton says what it looks like isn’t as important as what it does.

“You certainly look at it when you insert a disc, but for most people, it’s behind a cabinet or on a shelf somewhere and you spend all your time looking at the screen. And we wanted to show people the screen.”

Additionally, Tretton confirmed to Polygon that while PlayStation 4 won’t support 4K output for games, it will support “for personal contents, like photos or videos.”

And one last bit—probably one assumed—Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida told Polygon that PlayStation 4 will not support the DualShock 3 controller. “But it does support PS Move,” he said.

Thanks, The Verge.

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  • MrRobbyM

    Ad he’s right. It’s not what it looks like, it’s what it does. Not to say what it looks like isn’t important. If I’m gonna shell out 400(ish) bucks for a system that’ll be displayed for all to see, it better look sexy as hell.

    It’s releasing this year so we don’t have anything to worry about. They’ll probably show it at E3 or another convention.

  • http://kougeru.tumblr.com/ Kou

    No DS3…disappointing but it makes sense if they’re gonna force DS4 on all games. I’m really disappointed that it won’t support PSN games from PS3/PSP though. It needs to at LEAST run my PS1 classics for me to considering buying it instead of a new video card, considering that it’s video card is weaker than the one I had 3 years ago. Optimized better for it yes,but I expect devs to start optimizing PC games better as well since the hardware is far more similar now.

    • Ritsujun

      ‘Please touch the Touchpad to Start.’
      ‘Please swipe the Touchpad to view the Map.’
      There’s no touchpad on DS3.

  • Bloodios

    As long that 8G of GDDR5 remains in the retail specs, I won’t complain. That said, I hope the PS4 would support a wider range of media format, such as Matroska files and FLAC audio. Also, I really hope that H.264 support will be extended to ALL levels of High 4:4:4 Predictive Profile (maybe that’s a bit of a stretch) or at least High 10 Profile. I was very disappointed with 3.1 being the maximum supported level for the Vita…

    • rockman29

      Agreed about RAM

      Though I have no idea what you are talking abuot for video, explain please?

      • Bloodios

        Well, I want to be able view mkv files on my PS4 (an internal subtitle renderer is preferable) and listen to FLAC files.

        As for H.264, I suppose it’ll be quicker if you just use Wikipedia. The PS3 only supports up to Level 4.1 of High Profile (anything higher than that and the PS3 will output a black screen.) I don’t want that limitation. I want to freely encode anything all the way to level 5.2, which allows me to encode 4K videos at 60fps.

        I also want the PS4 to supports High 10 Profile, which allows me to encode video with 10 bits per sample (30 bits per pixel). It has been proven that a 10-bit at lower bit rate (well, depends on how low) would still be able to produce similar quality as standard 8-bit (24bpp) videos. In other words, at the same bit rate, a 10-bit encode would be superior to an 8-bit one.

        High 4:4:4 Predictive Profile provide supports for 4:4:4 chroma subsampling and 14 bits per sample. Well, it’s kinda overkill so I’m trying not to think too much about it. I just mentioned it for the heck of it.

        • Ritsujun

          Keep dreaming.

          • Bloodios

            Oh, I intend to. Life wouldn’t as enjoyable otherwise.

            • Ritsujun

              Nice. =D

    • zakou

      Matroska fles for pirated anime? :3 Just buy them on bluray they look even better than on matroska, one that stands out is Angel Beats. You can buy it anywhere and it’s not that expensive if you amazon it, and the quality is beyond epic on full hd tv on bluray.

      • Bloodios

        There isn’t any Blu-ray release for Martian Successor Nadesico outside of Japan. How do you expect me to play that on my system, not to mention it doesn’t have English subtitles…

        • zakou

          Good point xD i find the blame in both the buy and seller, it’s the companies fault for not releasing the specifict anime you want. And it is your fault for wanted an anime that is not demanded so much.

          In the end not every anime will be released on bluray or you might not even find the anime you want on DVD outside of Japan just like games.

          It is possible for anyone to start a company and buy the anime license so that you can translate it and release it outside of Japan, just look at XseeD games, people always wait for someone else to do something but XseeD as a tiny company started releasing games outside of japan because they “really wanted them”

          TL;DR: My point is Anime and Games is a luxury hobby, just because someone doesn’t chip in and releases the anime you want doesn’t mean you have the right to go around and pirating it xD

          • Bloodios

            When faced with such irresistible temptations, reasons and rationality quickly turn murky, and before long, my view on the matter also become skewered and warped XD

            Beside, without fansubbing, there’s no way I would be able to understand and enjoy anime in the first place. I’ve bought many series because prior to their localization, I’ve already watched and in turn, was able to determine that the series is good enough for me support it. I consider the experience is something akin to that of watching TV airings (that never happened.) So, if it’s available I’ll buy it, if not, then I’ll just have to hold on to what I have and enjoy it however I could. It might not be right, but I’m not about to let morality get in the way of my harmless little hobby. Can’t just let myself float along with the norm all the time, after all.

            Anyway, it’s not like excluding mkv would really halt pirating anyway, I’ll just mean that’ll one will just have to sit in front of a monitor instead of a HDTV ;]

            • zakou

              You are right, You are at least doing it the right way. Supporting the anime that You like. Lol at the last part :3

  • DesmaX

    There’s a lot of new buttons on the Dualshock 4. The DS3 not working on it makes sense

    • http://www.facebook.com/cleiton.m.santos Cleiton Santos

      A lot ?!?
      Only new button is the Share button.

      • AdamBoy64

        Well, that and the Options button (which I guess you could say is altered, rather than new).

        I guess they wanted developers to be able to develop for the trackpad without having to worry about programming controls seperately (or altering gameplay) for the DS3.

      • Ritsujun

        You could do a lot with that single touchpad.

        • Learii

          can i ask like what and how about the share button? i only know you can share screenshot or viedos that you upload it

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Obb/100001994017630 Bob Obb

    Boy have times changed… 5 years ago you could play every Sony console game on your PS3. Now we have slim PS3 that don’t play PS2 games, so unless your fatty is still alive you’ll need 3 consoles to play your entire library (PS2/3/4)

    The 4K thing is unsurprising. You can’t go from 720p to 4K, entirely skipping 1080p. That’s way too big a leap.

    • Skerj

      It’s the compromise people have to make to bring system costs down. Folks are essentially wanting a system that still retails for 300 dollars to be crammed into a new system yet still have it relatively cheap, not going to happen.

  • zakou

    Aww i have so many new DS3 controllers i thought i could use them on PS4 for 2-4p games T_T oh well.

  • PrinceHeir

    can’t wait for the full specs :D

  • KurisuMakise

    Even my DualShock 3 is useless? Again? Alright old faithful, stay with me. At least Move carries over fine, though it’d be kind of nice if Move was tweaked a bit for PS4, like a Wii Motion+ type thing or I dunno maybe selling it with the Sub-controller in one package. Oh forgot the main part of the news there, 4k. Expected the no games thing (was hoping for indie/smaller games that it still might, can you imagine 4k Sprite based stuff? I’d say wow to that) but definitely getting 4k movie content/photos is good enough.