Bayonetta 2 ‘would not exist without Nintendo’
posted on 09.22.12 at 02:36 PM EDT by (@salromano)
"We were looking for a partner to create Bayonetta 2."

Bayonetta 2 would not exist without Nintendo, according to Platinum Games executive director Atsushi Inaba. 

“We are not viewing this as a change of platform,” he told The Verge at this year’s Tokyo Game Show. “We were looking for a partner to create Bayonetta 2 and Nintendo was a strong, cooperative partner that was willing to create and grow Bayonetta 2 together [with us]. As a result the platform became the Wii U.”

The first Bayonetta launched for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 in 2010. Its sequel is a Wii U-exclusive. In a statement following Bayonetta 2‘s announcement, Platinum said it does not wish to ‘alienate’ its fans.

Regarding gameplay mechanics, Inaba said that the platform shift would not effect the game’s core method of play.

“We create the basic framework of our games on the PC, so even though the hardware changes it doesn’t influence the creation of our games. We’ve already developed our own engine to work with multiple platforms.

“Because of the Wii U GamePad, we are putting extra thought into how to use these differentiating features. There’s a difference in the game design side, but we are enjoying the challenges of creating games for new hardware.”

A release date for Bayonetta 2 is unannounced.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bruno-Reis/641714651 Bruno Reis

    If you create them on the PC, why not release them on the PC as well?

    • Kougeru

      Every game is technically created on a PC, unless they’re created exclusively on a Mac. Even dev kits for consoles are basically modified PCs since things such as 3D modeling, texturing, ect ect are impossible to do without either a mouse or touchscreen interface.

    • PrinceHeir

      Actually Atsushi Inaba visited Valve this week

      http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=492595 

      hey you never know?? :D

    • Kobracon

      Well first you have to understand that just because a game is exclusive for a console doesn’t mean it was MADE on that console. They gotta use PCs to use the dev tools to make the game. Basically when they make the game, what they are considering is the limitations of their target platform. 

      PCs may indeed be stronger than consoles but making a game specifically for a console results in a game optimized for the structure of the target console. Hence why ports are usually so bad is because the game wasn’t originally made for the ported console.

      If they were to release it on the PC they’d have to split development to optimize the game for the PC WHILE making it for the Wii U. In a perfect world, this could be done and the end result would be awesome, but sadly we don’t and time and money must be fully utilized to make a great game.

  • LordKaiser

     Take another of my game series exclusives and you’ll have me Nintendo.

    • PrinceHeir

      imagine if MGS Ground Zero were exclusive to the Wii U O____O

  • holly

    As long as this game is a WiiU exclusive, it doesn’t really exist.

    Just kidding, will get this with the new Monolith RPG ;D

    • Kobracon

      Haha, almost had me, good sir.

  • http://soundcloud.com/tet-chan TetsuyaHikari

    >would not exist without Nintendo

    Maybe it would be better if it DIDN’T exist at all.

    >We are not viewing this as a change of platform

    “Durr hurr. We just switched consoles, but we don’t consider this a change of platform, despite only giving it to Wii U exclusively.”

    Idiots.

    >We’ve already developed our own engine to work with multiple platforms.

    Except… You’re not USING it for multiple platforms, now are you?

    >Because of the Wii U GamePad, we are putting extra thought into how to
    use these differentiating features. There’s a difference in the game
    design side, but we are enjoying the challenges of creating games for
    new hardware.

    Oh yes, I’m sure we ALL wanted to see Bayonetta turn into just a happy-go-lucky game with “innovative” controls. Good luck enjoying the challenge of creating a game for a new, obsolete, piece of hardware. If anybody thinks Wii U belongs as part of the current generation of consoles, they should think again. The hardware for it is a joke and should have been released a couple of years ago.

    Thanks again, Nintendo, for choosing to go the innovative route rather than give us something practical. It’s honestly a joke that they expect you to pay either $200+ for a model with less than 10GB of storage space and $300+ for over 30GB of storage space. The ONLY reason this console will even keep its head above water is because of Monster Hunter 3: Ultimate (and probably a port of 4 to follow soon after), Zelda, and the new Super Smash Bros.

    Releasing Bayonetta 2 exclusively on this console was a terrible mistake and I hope they realize it sooner rather than later and release it on the proper console (PS3/360) at a later date.

    • LordKaiser

      Regardless the WiiU is more powerful than a 360 and almost as good as a PS3 and it have more RAM so it’s not that obsolete. Nintendo will surely force Microsoft and Sony to release their next consoles sooner.

      • http://soundcloud.com/tet-chan TetsuyaHikari

         A Vita is just as powerful as 360. What’s your point? It’s not “almost as good” as PS3 though. That’s laughable, lol. It can have however much RAM it wants. They’re just doing the same thing they did with the Wii.

        They are selling you an idea, not a product. At least the PS3 is practical in terms of hardware and has room for growth. Wii U will tap into its potential within the first year due to hardware limitations. Also, it’s fine if it “forces” Sony and Microsoft to release their next consoles sooner.

        It’s about time for the PS4 anyway. So, let people gobble up the new idea just like they did with the Wii, and I’ll be enjoying my PS4 in 2-3 years, laughing as it blows whatever the Wii U has to offer out of the water (or hell, even enjoying the current PS3 games, knowing they will also look and play better than whatever Wii U will have to offer).

        • LordKaiser

           My point is that your point of the WiiU being inferior it’s invalid. PS3 don’t have much room at all to growth because the RAM it’s just 250MB for a game and 250MB for the OS. The browser crashes my PS3 many times.

          • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

            Thats not accurate! ps3 has 512 mb that is split and is able to be used for games,a portion of it is sued for the os,just like the 360 and wuu will have too do as well.

            • http://Takuchat.com/ King Koopa

              Actually you are 1/2 right XD, ps3 actually has about 40MB of its reserved 256MB proprietorially static. However the other 200MB indeed are dynamic. But you are overall correct because the difference 40MB of ram makes is negligible. and of course, as you said the other half is completely free.

              With the AMD GPU tupe leaked
              with the IBM power 7 architecture leaked
              and Nintendo announcing ram

              The whole ps360 is more powerful argument simply doesn’t exist. Anyone with any grasp of tech and a little research will sii the WiiU is more powerful, and rightfully so being that its newer.

              when the PSnextBOX release, they will be more powerful. Its simply application of moores law. This tetsuya guy is a moron, once he said vita is as powerful as the 360 everyone should have ignored him for being ignorant on tech, and honestly anyone who says ps3 is overall noticeably more powerful than 360 or vice versa, is simply ignorant to tech and a fanboy. they are almost identical with individual strengths. Neither have a game that couldn’t run on the other exactly the same if given proper development.

              • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                wuu is way morepowerful,though we wont get too see how much for a while sadly,but that happens with every console ever(new zelda should look amazing!!!!)

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1051780171 Tan Wei Lun

          From Nintendo’s POV, it doesn’t really matter how powerful future consoles will be. If the new consoles really are coming in 2-3 years, that’s more than enough time for Nintendo to cash in on two or three Golden Weeks and Christmases to make more craploads of money. And this is assuming the WiiU doesn’t do well. If it does though, then they’ll continue to receive 3rd party support alongside the new consoles are released. We don’t even know what the PS4, the NextBox or the WiiU are fully capable.

          In the mean time a number of us would have something new to play with for the next 2-3 years until the PS4 comes out, which at that point it is uncertain if devs would jump ship or go multi-plat, because the uncertainty of the strength of any console is still a massive mystery, something not even you, an all-knowing God, knows.

          What happened in your life to make you a cynical and arrogant human being? If you’re not happy, don’t run around telling people that. Like hell you’ll convince anybody. You’re one in seven billion. And 26 years of age? Hmm… I may be young, but I have the decency and maturity to at least think before I say something and think how what I am saying will affect everybody reading and what kind of image you are projecting for yourself. I’m so surprised that you’ve never once looked back at any old comment and think to yourself “I’m a jerk.”

    • http://gematsu.com/ Sal Romano

      Your arguments are pretty ignorant. (I’m using that word politely. Sometimes tone can be misinterpreted on the internet.)

      “Maybe it would be better if it DIDN’T exist at all.”

      Fans have been asking for a sequel to Bayonetta. Platinum announces a sequel to Bayonetta. I can’t see how it would be better?

      “Except… You’re not USING it for multiple platforms, now are you?”

      Except, Nintendo, who is not only publishing Bayonetta 2, is likely funding the game’s development. 

      “Oh yes, I’m sure we ALL wanted to see Bayonetta turn into just a happy-go-lucky game…”

      I find it hard to see where you’re getting at here. Who said this would become a “happy-go-lucky game”? Judging by the teaser trailer, the game looks to have the same tone the first game has. And “new, obsolete, piece of hardware”? Wii U is at least as powerful as PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Maybe a bit more. (I’m not great on hardware specs.) And if it were to be released on PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360, I don’t think you’d be so angry.

      I do agree that more storage space built-in would be nice. But the system has a lot to look forward to: Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Pikmin 3, Bayonetta 2, Super Smash Bros. 4, Rayman Legends, ZombiU, The Wonderful 101, Monolith Soft’s RPG, Zelda Wii U, and an inevitable 3D Mario game. And hopefully a DQX localization.

      “Releasing Bayonetta 2 exclusively on this console was a terrible mistake and I hope they realize it sooner rather than later and release it on the proper console (PS3/360) at a later date.”

      Once again, Nintendo is publishing and likely funding the game. I don’t think that’ll happen.

  • PrinceHeir

    suck it haters!!!!!

    Bayonetta 2 is here to stay, and i definitely need a Wii U now T_____T

    glad it’s being made instead of letting it die soundly.

    cannot wait for the new gameplay videos!!!!!!

    • http://soundcloud.com/tet-chan TetsuyaHikari

      Honestly, Bayo ended on a good note, so this “sequel” is just an excuse to give people more fanservice. They could have let it “die soundly” without it really impacting the franchise at all. I have no idea what they could possibly do for the story in Bayonetta 2.

      The whole idea is absurd.

      • Anime10121

         I mean no harm, but if you dont care for a sequel, think there’s nothing more story wise that can be done, and think it’ll turn into nothing more than a fanservicy title, why the heck are you in EVERY Bayonetta 2 article complaining about it being on WiiU instead of PS360.  If you dont care, then stop caring.

        I mean, I can understand disdain for not wanting to have to purchase a new console to play a series you like, but honestly, its really starting to sound like you’re just hating because it was Nintendo that picked up the title.  Sony and Microsoft didnt want it bad enough, otherwise it would have been made on those platforms.  I dont like Nintendo franchises, but I’m buying a WiiU for some of the 3rd party support the system is getting.  Its as simple as that, you want Bayonetta 2 get a WiiU, you dont then dont.

      • PrinceHeir

        will just have to wait and see :)

  • Skerj

    Glad they said it once and for all, the “fans” should be happy we’re getting a damn sequel at all. Also I want to see how they use the controller, you know it’s going to be good. 

    • http://soundcloud.com/tet-chan TetsuyaHikari

      Oh yes, because turning a franchise into an exclusive title for a completely different platform is sooooooo much better than not getting the sequel at all.

      Great logic there.

      • Skerj

        It is great logic, in one instance I get to play the game and in another I don’t. ..at all. If others choose not to play it because it’s on a platform they don’t care for (for whatever reason) then that’s their problem. I don’t see how they can call themselves fans though. The only negative about this is that Nintendo consoles aren’t region free so importing woes continue.

      • http://profiles.google.com/dnlblue Daniel blue

        “turning a franchise into an exclusive title for a completely different platform is sooooooo much better than not getting the sequel at all”

        Are you on crack? Of course it is. Are you trying to say you’d rather have this game never released just because YOU can’t have it? That’s pretty egotistical. 

  • Genesis

    People need to get over it. The Wii U is shaping up to be a lovely console. While people continue to cry, I’ll be enjoying Bayonetta 2 ^_^

    • HarryHodd

      The Wii looked lovely at the start of last gen too.

    • Dean Winchester

      I liked the wii at first. Wound up collecting dust from 08 to this year when my daughter and I started playing together and is finally getting into gaming so I have a new appreciation for the glorified kids toy that is the wii.

      That said, new system launches always excite me and I already have my Wii-U paid for. Comes out on my twelve year wedding anniversary and like the Wii 6 yrs ago, the wife and I will be in line at midnight!

      • Genesis

        Happy Early Anniversary! I hope you enjoy the Wii U :D

  • Heistt

    I didn’t think I’d have to see TesuyaHikari again after Andriasang died.

    • Haku_Luvs_You

      Andriasang is never dead, it lives in the hearts of many! Though I will admit I miss my constant updates of Senran Kagura.

  • holly

    Sony fanboys can be really funny. Looking forward to the meltdowns when versusxiii will be announced for 360/wiiu :3    

    • KingOptimusOrigins111

      Um you do know Tetsuya Nomura is the director and he doesn’t make multiplats. Gosh I can’t wait for next year to laugh in your face when it still confirmed exclusive to PS3. Also how do you explain that Kingdom Heart HD Collection coming exclusive to PS3.

      • holly

        What Nomura says “Multiplatform is when you start development on a game with the
        assumption of optimizing for multiple platforms. Porting is something
        that’s done after you’ve developed a game specifically for a particular
        platforms”…

        But it doesn’t really matter and you can laugh as hard as you want, but as an owner of all consoles, i just enjoy other fanboys cry :)

        • KingOptimusOrigins111

          He originally said this don’t try to twist his words:
          “Multi-platform is when you start development on a game with the assumption of optimizing for multiple platforms. Porting is something that’s done after you’ve developed a game specifically for a particular platform. The debate over porting is decided by the management based off the current market and the costs. What I can say as a developer right now is that VERSUS is being developed and maxed out for the (PS3).”

          Just so you can get a clear understanding with your low IQ, he is saying if it goes multiplat it will be ported later after PS3 version is release but he already stated that after Versus he wants to move on to KH3.

          http://www.novacrystallis.com/?p=459 

          Again I’m going to laugh in your face.

          • holly

            But but.. we already had the same situation with FFXIII .. dumbass lol.. why so aggressive?
            First developed for the ps3, released in Japan and then ported to the xbox.

            • KingOptimusOrigins111

              Where in my comment does it say dumbass? lol!!! but anyway FF XIII and Versus XIII are two different games, two different developers working on them, two different gameplay styles, & two different universes. Only thing in common is the name Final Fantasy. FF XIII was ported to Xbox 360 in japan and sold like garbage. FF XIII was multiplat when it was released in NA & Europe and still sold way less on the 360 and 2x times better on the PS3.

              • holly

                Two different games, two different teams, but still the same Squenix. And yeah, the universes may be different, but the mythology is similar.

                • KingOptimusOrigins111

                  Yes!!! the only thing in common is the mythology but everything else is different. They’re is no connection between the two at all and they probably changed a lot of the story around since the last time we saw it and when it went into full production. For all we know they may have changed the name as well since FF XIII is the most hated FF game in the franchise.

                • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

                  No,the only thing similar about the  mythology is the basic concept of them having crystals involved and a few names.

                  Also,Nomura has only ever developed single platform games,and none for the 360.As for 13 being multi that isnt really relevant as it has a completely different lead then versus.

    • HarryHodd

      Too busy playing Tales of Graces f to care. :p

    • xMCXx

       Too busy playing Ni No Kuni. ; P

      • KingOptimusOrigins111

        You ported it. How is it?

        • xMCXx

           No no. xD
          I meant when it finally comes out in January! ^^

          • KingOptimusOrigins111

            I thought you ported it guess I was wrong. LOL!!!!!

            • xMCXx

              I would never import a JRPG without knowing Japanese, sicne I want to know what’s going on. xD

    • KingKellogg The Waffle Haggler

      Wow,was this trolling even necessary? 

  • Kkdog4Sado

    I respect the decision with Nintendo, but my question is why is he failing to answer if they even consulted with Sony and Micro? Were they asked? Did they decline? Did they go straight to Nintendo?

    • Tre W

      …Does it even matter at this point?

      But hey, it doesn’t take much to paint a picture of what would have likely happened, even if such occurred. Sony is the proud owner of the best-selling action game in its class (GoW). Therefore, they have little to no reason to really give a shit about Bayonetta (a game which, across two platforms, sold quite a bit less than any one GoW release). Meanwhile, MS’s strategy to try and appeal to Japan this generation has been a failure thus far, and having Bayonetta wouldn’t help much in that respect. 

      I mean, I don’t see what’s so hard to see that the market for Japanese character action games has definitely decreased.If such were otherwise, I’d imagine that Itagaki would have people beating down his door for the publishing rights to his and Valhalla’s “Devil’s Third” after THQ dropped them. But clearly, that’s not the case. And Bayonetta was as niche as it comes. 

      I wouldn’t be surprised if Nintendo was perhaps the only one who actually approached Sega and P*, and Sega probably jumped at the chance to make a quick buck by offering up the rights to publish Bayonetta 2.

      Because let’s face it, with Sega in the midst of its monetary difficulties as it is? It wouldn’t be far-fetched that Sega was eager to sell. Let’s not forget that Sega sold off the rights to Guilty Gear and The Rumble Fish to its respective developers (ASW and Dimps) earlier this year…  

  • HarryHodd

    Sad that I have to buy a WiiU to play this when the Wii was such a complete disappointment for me.

    • LordKaiser

       True but in the case of Wii U it’s too early to judge it. We’ll have to wait and see.

  • http://gematsu.com/ Zero

    Do we really have to turn every single Bayonetta 2 article into some stupid flame war thing?

    Is it to much to ask for some folks to just grow up? If you start typing up a comment hoping to upset fanboys or start a flame war or something. Please, just stop and move on.

    Posting stuff like that doesn’t add anything to the discussion. It’s more or less the exact same thing as trolling. 

    About Bayonetta 2 -

    I haven’t really voiced my opinion on this yet. I suppose I’m a bit sad to learn that we would have never received a sequel to the game if it wasn’t for Nintendo. Nintendo didn’t do anything wrong, I’m just shocked that Platinum/Sega couldn’t find anyone to help support the project.

    I can’t help but think to myself… What’s the deal? Bayonetta was a great game! It got pretty good review scores, and fans were hoping for a sequel. I bet some publishers out there are kicking themselves for not jumping on board to help out. Of course… Sega could have been really stupid about it, and refused to ask another publisher to help out? Tough to say without all the facts.

    I don’t plan to purchase a Wii U at launch, so I’ll probably have to wait a while to play the sequel. With that said, I hope it turns out to be an amazing game, one that I can enjoy playing sometime down the road.

    • holly

       Bayonetta 2 isn’t even in the launch window, so you can sit back and wait. Don’t really think that it will come out before fall 2013.

    • LordKaiser

       I’m on the same boat. I won’t purchase on launch but I will keep an eye on this console but it started good so far.

  • hush404

    Ehh, keeping out of the madness that is people ripping eachother down over this subject… I’m decently sure some other publisher would of stepped in after sega to publish this game had Nintendo not done so. To say Nintendo is the ONLY one who would do such a thing is a bit short sighted. 

    • Sevyne

       Except nobody really was stepping in. They’ve been in limbo with this game for longer than you may think.

  • Kazziyan

    Cool. Just as i suspected. I’d rather it not be cancelled/exist so once again thank you Nintendo.

  • Rezar

    I will just say this about Bayonetta 2. Sega has been the publisher for Platinum Games. Sega is in financial trouble at the moment which would explain why Anarchy Reigns hasn’t been released outside of Japan yet. So I think it’s obvious someone had to step in and publish Bayonetta 2 which happened to be Nintendo.

    • Bec66

      Actually anarchy reigns is supposed to be the last of the four games Platinum makes for Sega, so naturally their next game will be from a different publisher, so when nintendo wanted some strong new exclusive for their consle they naturally approached a company that has had a strong track record.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wtfits.gardner Cat Flames

    LIES!! They came out and said it was being made for PS3 and 360… Will never support this dev ever again.

    • Dean Winchester

      Shocking news. This was totally unexpected!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1051780171 Tan Wei Lun

      It WAS being made for the PS360, but half-way the funding stopped coming in and they decided to pull to plug. Games are often cancelled halfway through development. Remember Megaman Legends 3?

      • Dean Winchester

        Shhhhh your logics are not welcome here. Boycott those traitors at Platinum games!

        • Kobracon

          I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic.

          • Dean Winchester

            Yes. Its sarcasm meant to mimic the original post that all these replies are filed under.

  • KurisuMakise

    To be clear, nobody likes exclusives. Nor do they like when a game leaves a platform they own. That said, if you like the series and you want to support Platinum, then grab a WiiU and the game. It need not be at launch or anything (though that’d be ideal for Platinum) but it goes a long way. 

    • Dean Winchester

      Ummmmm so I love exclusives. They are what set one system apart from another.
      They are what make Sony consoles superior to all others every single generation.

      The Wii even had some standouts.

      Past Gears and Halo and some launch year one-off’s, MS really had a severe lack of worth this gen but the same happened last gen so I cant say Im shocked.

      That said….it appears the only people who dislike exclusives are the ones that cant afford every console.

      I felt the same when my parents bought me a Genesis as a kid and all my friends had a Snes. I refused to acknowledge that the SNES was Godly and its exclusives were why. The genesis had some gems as well but in the 16bit era Snes was king.

      Exclusives breed competition and competition breeds brilliance. If no one had exclusives what exactly would be the point of multiple consoles. When there is no competition the gamers suffer. Much like EA owning the rights to the NFL license and their MADDEN franchise stagnating for years.
      Sure its a solid football game but it hasnt shown any real innovation or heart for years.
      Lets not wish that to the entire industry b/c mom and dad wont buy you more than one system.
      Kay thx.

      • AuroraXIII

        Same here, I love exclusives. They increase the value of that particular platform.

        I don’t have a problem with exclusives since I own every platform except Xbox. This is why they are important, maybe if X360 had some good Japanese exclusives, I would actually buy one. Even the Wii U has enough to make me get it at launch.

        • Dean Winchester

          They had a small handful at first. Lost Oddysee, Blue Dragon, etc. i think Magna Carta 2 was the last one worth mentioning but that was in 2009 me thinks.
          Either way that well has been dry for years and multiplats mean nothing to a multi console owner. I certainly wont buy a multiplat on a faulty piece of HW just for some gamerscore points and especially whenI have to pay to simply play it online.

          I have a friend who uses netflix exclusively through the xbox on her tv. So her netflix subscription costs her $156 per year just to use thanks to the required $60 per yr Live fee.
          What an idiot.

      • KurisuMakise

        You don’t need to lock gamers out of your game in order to breed competition. You’re competing just because you exist quite frankly. The only competition exclusives breed are console wars between MS, Sony, and Nintendo which is only so beneficial. Certainly as a consumer it breeds no immediate benefit, versus the business benefit that third parties gain and the console manufacturer. 

        You’re definitely right that those whom can’t afford all platforms definitely don’t like them. Alternatively, people whom are boycotting a particular company (for whatever reason) or simply don’t see the need to invest in three different tv boxes. There are plenty of explanations but locking people out of a game isn’t ideal. The value of a particular platform should not be based on 3rd party exclusives, but rather 1st party exclusives, imo.

        That’s beside the point of my post, if you like Platinum and you want more Bayonetta; then you know what you’ve got to do. 

        • Dean Winchester

          Why should the value of a system only be tied to its 1st party exclusives?

          If Sony provides funding to a 3rd party dev where MS would not….why do MS gamers deserve the chance to play that game that Sony helped bring to fruition?

          Nintendo backed Platinum games and made it possible for Bayo2 to exist. Why do Sony or MS gamers deserve a piece of that?

          If first party exclusives were the only gamesallowed to be exclusiveMS wouldnt have the Gears series in its back pocket making their already tremendously weak portfolio even weaker with only Halo, Forza, and Fable to count on.
          Not that I wouldcare as the contributions MS brings to the gaming climate have always been a joke anyway.

          What I am saying though is that while Nintendo andSony have a hugestaple of1st party exclusives thatMS couldnt ever dream of competing with…the rarer 3rd party exclusives turn out to really be feathers in the cap of which ever console manufacturer can get them.
          Catering to the lowest common denominator, in your example, the folkswho either have no choice or choose to only own one consolewould only serve to stagnate the industry much like the policies of the Obama administration stagnate the growth of every industry they affect by trapping usall within the mire that is mediocrity.

          See also Madden and the football game decline once EA locked out their competition.
          The last innovative year in football gaming was2005.

          • KurisuMakise

            I’m going to call a time out. The exclusive you mentioned is fine with me, I’d count that right under my first party statement. If Sony goes out of its way to fund a game and PUBLISH it, then by golly it’s first party for me (or 2nd if you want to get technical, we’re still good). What I protest is scenarios like FFXIII before it went multi, as well as Sony’s rain of exclusives. I was very happy MS fought to break such exclusivity this gen, cause good competition. 

            I don’t believe for a single second that 3rd parties offering choice to consumers on which platform they buy will stagnate the industry. There is no evidence of that and is in no way comparable to your EA comment. In fact you bringing up EA proves MY opinion correct. Madden is exclusive to EA, which has stagnated football in your own words. Had Madden been open to the other 3rd parties, we’d have innovation via competition. Now apply that same logic to the big 3. If the big 3 had no 3rd party exclusives (unless they fund it themselves), then the playing field will be much more even for all 3. Suddenly, one box isn’t known for the Call of Duty Box. Now they all have access and if Nintendo and friends want to get a nice piece of that pie, they’d have to provide compelling software to cater to that market and supplement Call of Duty. That’s just an example, sub that in for any other big third party game, it all works the same. 

            • Dean Winchester

              Actually EA owns Madden but I am referencing the fact that they bought the rights to the NFL license thus creating a vaccuum unto their brand with which no competition exists.
              Being that the 2K series was coming up hard and fast and many thought it would overtake Madden as a brand, EA decided to lock out competition by buying the rights to the NFL license. Without the fear of 2K games out performing the Madden brand EA simply dialed it in the last 7 yrs with glorified roster updates.

              If every platform had every 3rd party game there would be no competition amongst 3rd parties to innovate much like EA had no reason too with Madden.

              You obviously missed the bigger picture b/c somehow you thought my points actually helped your case LoL!

              Disliking Sony’s domination of 3rd party exclusives last gen simply sounds like the butthurt of someone who put all their eggs in MS’ basket.
              Mayhaps you “jumped in” a little prematurely?

              Hating Sony’s dominance in the PS1 era would be butthurt over owning either a Saturn or N64 that gen and not being able to convince mommy and daddy to buy you a Playstation instead of the system you got.

              For those of us that purchase every system every gen we sit back and just get to enjoy great games regardless of the platform.

              • KurisuMakise

                You’re far too eager to argue with me, Dean; thus jumping to some conclusions that don’t make any sense, relevant to the person you’re speaking to. So I’m going to ignore the whole “Butthurt” comments. I’ve got no reason to be such over any specific decision you’ve implied (ie: PS Dominance during PS1 era or PS2 era as well as Nintendo with Bayonetta). I also knew exactly what you meant concerning them buying the license to NFL and locking out other developers. 

                Now lets get to the meat of this: 

                “If every platform had every 3rd party game there would be no competition amongst 3rd parties to innovate much like EA had no reason too with Madden”This is incorrect. If every platform had the third party titles, they’d be all in competition  against each other on the SAME PLATFORMS. Therefore every single time, Call of Duty would be up against Battlefield for each individual platform holder. That sounds like great competition to me, versus one third party saying “I’m not competing with you guys for Nintendo’s audiences, you can have them while I stay exclusive to Microsoft”. That is lost business and is completely ridiculous. Then it hurts the gamers on Nintendo’s platform because now much like EA, they lost out on an opportunity to play another game in the genre, just like how 2K isn’t available to make EA sweat. 

                That was the point your EA comment proved for me. Certainly they could pick up another console and why not, games to be had on all of them. I’d rather everyone and their mother own them all but that’s not reality. Therefore in this reality, I accept that people have preferences and limited pockets. As should 3rd parties, because there’s no point in losing out on business just so console fanboys can say “This game is exclusive har,har,har” or in your case, justifying your purchase of one console over the next or am I mistaking you with AuroraXIII? My apologies if so, but I don’t see the point and just proved the competition argument in vain. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2JCXKQVFQW2JRYSNKRMDML7PGM TerU_Camui

    How come no one remembers a game called MadWorld on wii? Atsushi Inaba has worked with Nintendo making exclusives before and is doing it again, no surprise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Bladez0fDr4v3n Sae-Won Yoon

    So then what about Anarchy Reigns?

    …*cricket* *cricket* *cricket* *cricket*…..

    • Torncurse

      it looks like sega is the problem

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XQSNDA4V47UI7LX6IGLZJGP424 Moondrops

    to me it sounds like the game was always a nintendo title. this game will probably never leave the wii u, so if you really want to play it, you have to buy a wii u, there’s no way around that. or you would wait for bayonetta 3 for ps4 and next xbox. if it ever gets developed.

  • Kobracon

    TEH BLUE! Thats all I need to know, P*. Please tell us why or hint to us why her guns are blue now?! Its keeping me UP at night!

    • Genesis

      I agree! The blue theme pretty much intrigues me…I’m wondering could that actually be Bayonetta? Or could they just be going with a different theme for her? Who knows…

  • Amaterasu4

    They should have mentioned that last week before fans started complaining and insulting Platinum